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<div class="bbWrapper"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'verdana'">First of all, sorry for all the threads I&#039;m starting (this is the 2nd one in 10 minutes),<br /> but hopefully if this gets answered not only me but lots of other people can benefit from the answers as well.<br /> <br /> How many possible unique visitors per day for a rank #1 is a good number?</span></span><br /> <span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'verdana'">I have found a keyword phrase with little to no competition, very relevant to my product which will get my roughly 25 visitors per day (750 a month) from a rank #1. Is this number too low?</span></span><br /> <br /> <span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'verdana'">Are there any &quot;rules&quot; to how many visitors you should get per day to make the #1 profitable?<br /> <br /> Would you recommend me to go compete in a tougher keyword phrase, and with lots of work, try to get on the first page?<br /> Or should I, as a startup, first go win in a keyword phrase with no competition, and later on add another page to my site and try to compete on the tougher phrase?</span></span></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">It totally depends on the keyword. I am number 1 for my company name and not much else. I do not get the traffic I would like. It probably gets me right in that range you are discussing. You will want much more.<br /> <br /> There are definitely more qualified people to talk on this topic here than me though.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="stolpioni" data-source="post: 241251" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=241251" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-241251">stolpioni said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'verdana'">First of all, sorry for all the threads I&#039;m starting (this is the 2nd one in 10 minutes),<br /> but hopefully if this gets answered not only me but lots of other people can benefit from the answers as well.<br /> <br /> How many possible unique visitors per day for a rank #1 is a good number?</span></span><br /> <span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'verdana'">I have found a keyword phrase with little to no competition, very relevant to my product which will get my roughly 25 visitors per day (750 a month) from a rank #1. Is this number too low?</span></span><br /> <br /> <span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'verdana'">Are there any &quot;rules&quot; to how many visitors you should get per day to make the #1 profitable?<br /> <br /> Would you recommend me to go compete in a tougher keyword phrase, and with lots of work, try to get on the first page?<br /> Or should I, as a startup, first go win in a keyword phrase with no competition, and later on add another page to my site and try to compete on the tougher phrase?</span></span> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> - <b>60% of the clicks on Google&#039;s front page come from the 1st position and then it decreases exponentially. Also the keyword tools skew the numbers and it would probably be less than 750 visitors/month. </b><br /> <br /> That being said:<br /> <br /> - <b>Are you sure the keyword is un-competitive? Or are you assuming because it only has 750 searches/month that it is not competitive?</b><br /> <br /> Think about it this way: keyword #1 = 24,000 searches/month, but the keyword is &quot;chicken recipes&quot;<br /> <br /> keyword #2 = 300 searches/month, but the keyword is &quot;how to stay alive during a heart attack&quot;<br /> <br /> The first keyword might be easier to rank for over the second keyword simply because nobody will be able to monetize from the first one. (People looking for recipes will not buy an e-book on recipes. People who are at risk of having a heart attack might be more inclined to buy something)<br /> <br /> - <b>How can any number be too low for you to rank for? </b><br /> <br /> Have you ranked any other keywords yet? If not, then the 25 visitors/day would be an amazing achievement. <br /> <br /> You need to rank the smaller ones first, not only because they are easier, but because it gives you multiple advantages:<br /> <br /> 1. you get to test your traffic and optimize your site to retain customers better.<br /> 2. you learn how to generate traffic<br /> 3. you start building relationships and start seeing what your audience needs <br /> 4. you see results much faster, which will keep you motivated<br /> 5. at the very beginning stages you won&#039;t be able to rank a big keyword (period)</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="TheTruth" data-source="post: 241280" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=241280" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-241280">TheTruth said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> - <b>60% of the clicks on Google&#039;s front page come from the 1st position and then it decreases exponentially. Also the keyword tools skew the numbers and it would probably be less than 750 visitors/month. </b><br /> <br /> That being said:<br /> <br /> - <b>Are you sure the keyword is un-competitive? Or are you assuming because it only has 750 searches/month that it is not competitive?</b><br /> <br /> Think about it this way: keyword #1 = 24,000 searches/month, but the keyword is &quot;chicken recipes&quot;<br /> <br /> keyword #2 = 300 searches/month, but the keyword is &quot;how to stay alive during a heart attack&quot;<br /> <br /> The first keyword might be easier to rank for over the second keyword simply because nobody will be able to monetize from the first one. (People looking for recipes will not buy an e-book on recipes. People who are at risk of having a heart attack might be more inclined to buy something)<br /> <br /> - <b>How can any number be too low for you to rank for? </b><br /> <br /> Have you ranked any other keywords yet? If not, then the 25 visitors/day would be an amazing achievement. <br /> <br /> You need to rank the <span style="color: #FF0000">smaller ones</span> first, not only because they are easier, but because it gives you multiple advantages:<br /> <br /> 1. you get to test your traffic and optimize your site to retain customers better.<br /> 2. you learn how to generate traffic<br /> 3. you start building relationships and start seeing what your audience needs <br /> 4. you see results much faster, which will keep you motivated<br /> 5. at the very beginning stages you won&#039;t be able to rank a <span style="color: #FF0000">big keyword</span> (period) </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Question, does small and big keyword above mean, little and a lot of competition words?<br /> I&#039;m trying to figure out ad words...mostly lost</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">How do you plan on monetizing?<br /> <br /> If you&#039;ve got a hungry audience and a proper marketing funnel set up 750/month might be pleanty. If your service or product solves a clear necessity you might be good.<br /> <br /> Sent from my Kindle Fire using Tapatalk 2</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Dennis has it correct, what is your money plan? If you get 10 leads a day, that should equate out to about 5-6 sales a month. That is great if you are selling a $50k software system or service, sucks if you are selling a .99 phone app.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Thanks for all the answers!<br /> <br /> TheTruth: Yes, I am sure that my keyword phrase is un-competitive, it has a ratio of SEOTC to SEOC of 0%.<br /> There are only about 30 websites in the world that mentions this exact keyword phrase.<br /> This has to mean that the competition is low? <br /> <br /> Healthstatus: To be honest, 5-6 sales a month doesn&#039;t sound very compelling. I was hoping more of 1-2 a day.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="stolpioni" data-source="post: 241438" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=241438" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-241438">stolpioni said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Thanks for all the answers!<br /> <br /> TheTruth: Yes, I am sure that my keyword phrase is un-competitive, it has a ratio of SEOTC to SEOC of 0%.<br /> There are only about 30 websites in the world that mentions this exact keyword phrase.<br /> This has to mean that the competition is low? <br /> <br /> Healthstatus: To be honest, 5-6 sales a month doesn&#039;t sound very compelling. I was hoping more of 1-2 a day. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Then you need to attract 200-300 visitors and have good copy. Typical close rates on a website are .5 to 2%</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Ddfurman" data-source="post: 241296" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=241296" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-241296">Ddfurman said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Question, does small and big keyword above mean, little and a lot of competition words?<br /> I&#039;m trying to figure out ad words...mostly lost </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> By big keywords I meant LARGE (i.e. 10,000 searchers/month) that are also competitive. Sorry for not having laid that out better. <br /> <br /> If you are lost, then maybe see if Eskil can help you. (He has a thread all about adwords on this forum)<br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="stolpioni" data-source="post: 241438" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=241438" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-241438">stolpioni said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Thanks for all the answers!<br /> <br /> TheTruth: Yes, I am sure that my keyword phrase is un-competitive, it has a ratio of SEOTC to SEOC of 0%.<br /> There are only about 30 websites in the world that mentions this exact keyword phrase.<br /> This has to mean that the competition is low? <br /> <br /> Healthstatus: To be honest, 5-6 sales a month doesn&#039;t sound very compelling. I was hoping more of 1-2 a day. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> 1-2 sales a day is way ahead of where you are right now. Let&#039;s first get your first sale and then start optimizing your landing pages. After you get some traction, then start gaining more visitors. <br /> <br /> From what you wrote, it shouldn&#039;t be too hard to rank the keyword.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="healthstatus" data-source="post: 241469" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=241469" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-241469">healthstatus said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Then you need to attract 200-300 visitors and have good copy. Typical close rates on a website are .5 to 2% </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> This.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="TheTruth" data-source="post: 241580" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=241580" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-241580">TheTruth said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> By big keywords I meant LARGE (i.e. 10,000 searchers/month) that are also competitive. Sorry for not having laid that out better. <br /> <br /> If you are lost, then maybe see if Eskil can help you. (He has a thread all about adwords on this forum)<br /> <br /> <b>1-2 sales a day is way ahead of where you are right now. Let&#039;s first get your first sale and then start optimizing your landing pages. After you get some traction, then start gaining more visitors.</b> <br /> <br /> From what you wrote, it shouldn&#039;t be too hard to rank the keyword.<br /> <br /> This. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <span style="color: #0000cd">Well my landing page stinks...I don&#039;t know how to fix it and I&#039;ve spent days trying to learn Adwords...I&#039;m thinking it may be worth paying someone after all for this piece</span>.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Ddfurman" data-source="post: 241584" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=241584" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-241584">Ddfurman said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <span style="color: #0000cd">Well my landing page stinks...I don&#039;t know how to fix it and I&#039;ve spent days trying to learn Adwords...I&#039;m thinking it may be worth paying someone after all for this piece</span>. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Well your decision will depend on how much the learning of adwords will be worth. <br /> <br /> Do you have more important things to work on in your business? Would learning how to create a great landing page be worth more in terms of time for you? how about money?</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="TheTruth" data-source="post: 241589" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=241589" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-241589">TheTruth said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Well your decision will depend on how much the learning of adwords will be worth. <br /> <br /> Do you have more important things to work on in your business? Would learning how to create a great landing page be worth more in terms of time for you? how about money? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <span style="color: #800080">That&#039;s just it, there are other things in this business...and I have 2 others to keep going...their slowlane, but I like to eat...regularl</span>y <img src="/community/imgs/emoticons/em-smile2.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /></div>
 

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