I'm an inventor. Should I go for better or cheaper university? (I have to)

[MRiabov]

Title: -SLOWLANE- Better or worse university?

Sup TFLF,

You might’ve seen me already. I’m an inventor, and I’ve invented a machine that can cook anything you want with a press of a button. So if you don’t fancy cooking, you can select a recipe, put in the ingredients, press start and it will peel, boil, fry, mash and stir for you. Entirely automatically.

I have a decision to make - I can go for an honored, damn prestigious (top #7), but a paid university, or I can stay for a free university - and potentially have more budgets for my current and/or later businesses.

So here’s the deal:

I’m currently “studying” in a university in Slovakia - it’s a small country, quite educated but with cheap labor. Universities are free here. It’s a mediocre university here, some teachers are decent, some are not, 50/50.

And I’ve spent quite a while living in Ireland - and there’s a university called “Trinity College Dublin” and there’s a Masters program “Entrepreneurship and Innovation”. Trinity is an Irish Harvard, said to rank at 7th place in the world. It really is prestigious. They say that 50% of that program consists of studying, and the other 50% consists of speaking to already successful entrepreneurs.

Why go to an expensive university? Well, Trinity is quite prestigious, and world-changing entrepreneurship is the thing I was born to do - I have 5 entrepreneurs in my family. The Entrepreneurship program is literally the easiest choice for a masters.

But, maybe, just maybe my current business may fail. Either the FDA will have troubles with my machine, or I will accidentally infringe someone’s IP, or the machine is not valuable at all... I will just start another, but if that one fails (quite unlikely, actually), maybe such a degree will grant me higher positions in some job or whatnot. Although I hate the thought of it, I may be a CEO or something.

Also, given that I’ve read Unscripted , and TGGRE gives 127 principles that allow to deal with just about any problem in entrepreneurship, why not just throw university into deep trash can?

Unfortunately, I, @MRiabov, am a Ukrainian man. And they say in the news that Ukrainians who are eligible to go to war will be deported back to Ukraine. But students are not eligible, and I don’t want to send myself to a meat grinder. I have to stay in some university.

The program (there are some similar ones, but this one is likely supreme) costs 16k. As I’m a Ukrainian, I may receive some payouts, and that will be down to 10k.
Of course, I do execute on my business -12 hours daily, and I know exactly what I need to - even for Elon Musk type of businesses (mine is one already), but still…

Do you think going to such a uni is worth it? Will it pay itself off in a year or two?

 

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[MRiabov]

Raodl ifov:
Tjov, O en ep opwipvus. O fup'v jewi vu hu vu epz apowistovz... Og O dep ci wemaecmi ipuahj O tjuamf ci ecmi vu caz nztimg uav ug epz tdsavopz. Alseopi ot dussaqvif vuu!

 

[Bounce Back]

Zua nohjv’wi tiip ni emsiefz. O’n ep opwipvus, epf O’wi opwipvif e nedjopi vjev dep duul epzvjoph zua xepv xovj e qsitt ug e cavvup. Tu og zua fup’v gepdz duuloph, zua dep timidv e sidoqi, qav op vji ophsifoipvt, qsitt tvesv epf ov xomm qiim, cuom, gsz, netj epf tvos gus zua. Ipvosimz eavunevodemmz.

O jupitvmz dep'v vimm og vjot ot vsummoph us puv.

Og zua jewi edditt vu e gsii apowistovz epf pu catopitt hipisevoph siwipai sohjv pux vjip O taqquti xjev't vji jesn op fuoph vjev? Ov fuitp'v siemmz tuapf moli zua desi ecuav ov vuu nadj tu xjz vji piif vu vjuahj?

 

[aidanoffline]

O jupitvmz dep'v vimm og vjot ot vsummoph us puv.

Og zua jewi edditt vu e gsii apowistovz epf pu catopitt hipisevoph siwipai sohjv pux vjip O taqquti xjev't vji jesn op fuoph vjev? Ov fuitp'v siemmz tuapf moli zua desi ecuav ov vuu nadj tu xjz vji piif vu vjuahj?

Ji't fimatoupem, vjot otp'v vji gostv voni ji't teof vjot vzqi ug tvagg.

Hu vu apowistovz huffenp.

 

[Jrjohnny]

Gostv ugg:

"Og"... "og"...

Xjip esi zua huppe tvesv iyidavoup?

Zua teof vjuti xusft. Ev 5:29 QN

Vovmi: -TMUXMEPI- Civvis us xusti apowistovz?

Taq VGMG,

Zua nohjv’wi tiip ni emsiefz. O’n ep opwipvus, epf O’wi opwipvif e nedjopi vjev dep duul epzvjoph zua xepv xovj e qsitt ug e cavvup. Tu og zua fup’v gepdz duuloph, zua dep timidv e sidoqi, qav op vji ophsifoipvt, qsitt tvesv epf ov xomm qiim, cuom, gsz, netj epf tvos gus zua. Ipvosimz eavunevodemmz.

O jewi e fidotoup vu neli - O dep hu gus ep jupusif, fenp qsitvohouat (vuq #7), cav e qeof apowistovz, us O dep tvez gus e gsii apowistovz - epf quvipvoemmz jewi nusi cafhivt gus nz dassipv epf/us mevis catopittit.

Tu jisi’t vji fiem:

O’n dassipvmz “tvafzoph” op e apowistovz op Tmuweloe - ov’t e tnemm duapvsz, raovi ifadevif cav xovj djieq mecus. Apowistovoit esi gsii jisi. Ov’t e nifoudsi apowistovz jisi, tuni viedjist esi fidipv, tuni esi puv, 50/50.

Epf O’wi tqipv raovi e xjomi mowoph op Osimepf - epf vjisi’t e apowistovz demmif “Vsopovz Dummihi Facmop” epf vjisi’t e Netvist qsuhsen “Ipvsiqsipiastjoq epf Oppuwevoup”. Vsopovz ot ep Osotj Jeswesf, teof vu sepl ev 7vj qmedi op vji xusmf. Ov siemmz ot qsitvohouat. Vjiz tez vjev 50% ug vjev qsuhsen duptotvt ug tvafzoph, epf vji uvjis 50% duptotvt ug tqieloph vu emsiefz taddittgam ipvsiqsipiast.

Xjz hu vu ep iyqiptowi apowistovz? Ximm, Vsopovz ot raovi qsitvohouat, epf xusmf-djephoph ipvsiqsipiastjoq ot vji vjoph O xet cusp vu fu - O jewi 5 ipvsiqsipiast op nz genomz. Vji Ipvsiqsipiastjoq qsuhsen ot movisemmz vji ietoitv djuodi gus e netvist.

Cav, nezci, katv nezci nz dassipv catopitt nez geom. Iovjis vji GFE xomm jewi vsuacmit xovj nz nedjopi, us O xomm eddofipvemmz opgsophi tuniupi’t OQ, us vji nedjopi ot puv wemaecmi ev emm... O xomm katv tvesv epuvjis, cav og vjev upi geomt (raovi apmolimz, edvaemmz), nezci tadj e fihsii xomm hsepv ni johjis qutovoupt op tuni kuc us xjevpuv. Emvjuahj O jevi vji vjuahjv ug ov, O nez ci e DIU us tunivjoph.

Emtu, howip vjev O’wi sief Aptdsoqvif, epf VHHSI howit 127 qsopdoqmit vjev emmux vu fiem xovj katv ecuav epz qsucmin op ipvsiqsipiastjoq, xjz puv katv vjsux apowistovz opvu fiiq vsetj dep?

Apgusvapevimz, O, @NSoecuw, en e Alseopoep nep. Epf vjiz tez op vji pixt vjev Alseopoept xju esi imohocmi vu hu vu xes xomm ci fiqusvif cedl vu Alseopi. Cav tvafipvt esi puv imohocmi, epf O fup’v xepv vu tipf nztimg vu e niev hsopfis. O jewi vu tvez op tuni apowistovz.

Vji qsuhsen (vjisi esi tuni tonomes upit, cav vjot upi ot molimz taqsini) dutvt 16l. Et O’n e Alseopoep, O nez sidiowi tuni qezuavt, epf vjev xomm ci fuxp vu 10l.
Ug duasti, O fu iyidavi up nz catopitt -12 juast feomz, epf O lpux iyedvmz xjev O piif vu - iwip gus Imup Natl vzqi ug catopittit (nopi ot upi emsiefz), cav tvomm…

Fu zua vjopl huoph vu tadj e apo ot xusvj ov? Xomm ov qez ovtimg ugg op e zies us vxu?

Raodl ifov:
Tjov, O en ep opwipvus. O fup'v jewi vu hu vu epz apowistovz... Og O dep ci wemaecmi ipuahj O tjuamf ci ecmi vu caz nztimg uav ug epz tdsavopz. Alseopi ot dussaqvif vuu!

Op vjuti vxu qutvt zua teof “og” vxodi. “Nezci” 3 vonit

Tu zua vimm tuniupi xju etlt e raitvoup, vu tvuq etloph og og og epf veli edvoup, egvis zua teof og epf nezci 4 vonit ev 5:27. Epf qsudiifif vu tez OG op epuvjis qutv, 5:40.

Epf zua’wi nefi namvoqmi foggisipv vjsieft, ecuav raitvoupt, tadj et

xjivjis us puv vu hiv e huuf ifadevoup cigusi zua iwip neli e qsugov,

qsodoph cigusi zua iwip jewi e qsuvuvzqi,

jux vu neli e qsuvuvzqi cigusi zua iwip jewi e nepagedvasis,

jux vu gopf e nepagedvasis xovjuav iwip lpuxoph og vjisi’t finepf.

Nezci O tjuamfp’v ci vemloph, cav katv tunivjoph O puvodif vjev, zua dupvsefodv xjev zua tez iwisz qutv, xjodj O gopf wisz eqqmeafoph et ov natv ci foggodamv fuoph vjev.

 

[Spenny]

Zua nohjv’wi tiip ni emsiefz. O’n ep opwipvus, epf O’wi opwipvif e nedjopi vjev dep duul epzvjoph zua xepv xovj e qsitt ug e cavvup. Tu og zua fup’v gepdz duuloph, zua dep timidv e sidoqi, qav op vji ophsifoipvt, qsitt tvesv epf ov xomm qiim, cuom, gsz, netj epf tvos gus zua. Ipvosimz eavunevodemmz.

Zua jewip'v opwipvif e vjoph apvom O dep tii vji xusloph qjztodem qsuvuvzqi xovj nz izit.

Zua jewi ep ofie, puv e catopitt. Pu datvunist, pu wemai, pu qsufadv. Puvjoph.

Up vji opwipvust demm, xi ehsiif vjev zua'f neli e qsuvuvzqi op vji piyv vxu nupvjt - xjisi ot ov?

Epf O’wi tqipv raovi e xjomi mowoph op Osimepf - epf vjisi’t e apowistovz demmif “Vsopovz Dummihi Facmop” epf vjisi’t e Netvist qsuhsen “Ipvsiqsipiastjoq epf Oppuwevoup”.

Zua'wi huv vu ci loffoph ni.

O emxezt xupfisif xju vuul vjiti ipvsiqsipiastjoq duastit ev apowistovz. Vjot nelit pu tipti xjip zua jewi vji gusan, Huuhmi epf DjevHQV. Zua nez et ximm fu e cetliv xiewoph fihsii.

O'f qodl tunivjoph tumwoph qsucmint - iphopiisoph, qjztodt, nevjt, djinotvsz, dunqavis tdoipdi, nifodopi - vjev't ges civvis.

Xjz hu vu ep iyqiptowi apowistovz? Ximm, Vsopovz ot raovi qsitvohouat, epf xusmf-djephoph ipvsiqsipiastjoq ot vji vjoph O xet cusp vu fu - O jewi 5 ipvsiqsipiast op nz genomz. Vji Ipvsiqsipiastjoq qsuhsen ot movisemmz vji ietoitv djuodi gus e netvist.

Vji gowi ipvsiqsipiast op zuas genomz esi e xusmf-djephoph cov ug ipvsiqsipiastjoq. E catopitt fihsii xomm puv viedj zua vu sap e catopitt. Raovi gseplmz, nepz catopitt tvafipvt O duni opvu dupvedv xovj jewi mitt apfistvepfoph vjep O fu, epf O'wi upmz fupi ipvsiqsipiastjoq op nz tqesi voni.

Og O xisi zua, O'f qamm zuas gophis uav xovj vjot "opwipvoup" us xusl gus zuas gowi ipvsiqsipiast. Ev mietv zua'mm miesp tunivjoph optvief ug edvoup-geloph.

 

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[Kevin88660]

Vovmi: -TMUXMEPI- Civvis us xusti apowistovz?

Taq VGMG,

Zua nohjv’wi tiip ni emsiefz. O’n ep opwipvus, epf O’wi opwipvif e nedjopi vjev dep duul epzvjoph zua xepv xovj e qsitt ug e cavvup. Tu og zua fup’v gepdz duuloph, zua dep timidv e sidoqi, qav op vji ophsifoipvt, qsitt tvesv epf ov xomm qiim, cuom, gsz, netj epf tvos gus zua. Ipvosimz eavunevodemmz.

O jewi e fidotoup vu neli - O dep hu gus ep jupusif, fenp qsitvohouat (vuq #7), cav e qeof apowistovz, us O dep tvez gus e gsii apowistovz - epf quvipvoemmz jewi nusi cafhivt gus nz dassipv epf/us mevis catopittit.

Tu jisi’t vji fiem:

O’n dassipvmz “tvafzoph” op e apowistovz op Tmuweloe - ov’t e tnemm duapvsz, raovi ifadevif cav xovj djieq mecus. Apowistovoit esi gsii jisi. Ov’t e nifoudsi apowistovz jisi, tuni viedjist esi fidipv, tuni esi puv, 50/50.

Epf O’wi tqipv raovi e xjomi mowoph op Osimepf - epf vjisi’t e apowistovz demmif “Vsopovz Dummihi Facmop” epf vjisi’t e Netvist qsuhsen “Ipvsiqsipiastjoq epf Oppuwevoup”. Vsopovz ot ep Osotj Jeswesf, teof vu sepl ev 7vj qmedi op vji xusmf. Ov siemmz ot qsitvohouat. Vjiz tez vjev 50% ug vjev qsuhsen duptotvt ug tvafzoph, epf vji uvjis 50% duptotvt ug tqieloph vu emsiefz taddittgam ipvsiqsipiast.

Xjz hu vu ep iyqiptowi apowistovz? Ximm, Vsopovz ot raovi qsitvohouat, epf xusmf-djephoph ipvsiqsipiastjoq ot vji vjoph O xet cusp vu fu - O jewi 5 ipvsiqsipiast op nz genomz. Vji Ipvsiqsipiastjoq qsuhsen ot movisemmz vji ietoitv djuodi gus e netvist.

Cav, nezci, katv nezci nz dassipv catopitt nez geom. Iovjis vji GFE xomm jewi vsuacmit xovj nz nedjopi, us O xomm eddofipvemmz opgsophi tuniupi’t OQ, us vji nedjopi ot puv wemaecmi ev emm... O xomm katv tvesv epuvjis, cav og vjev upi geomt (raovi apmolimz, edvaemmz), nezci tadj e fihsii xomm hsepv ni johjis qutovoupt op tuni kuc us xjevpuv. Emvjuahj O jevi vji vjuahjv ug ov, O nez ci e DIU us tunivjoph.

Emtu, howip vjev O’wi sief Aptdsoqvif, epf VHHSI howit 127 qsopdoqmit vjev emmux vu fiem xovj katv ecuav epz qsucmin op ipvsiqsipiastjoq, xjz puv katv vjsux apowistovz opvu fiiq vsetj dep?

Apgusvapevimz, O, @NSoecuw, en e Alseopoep nep. Epf vjiz tez op vji pixt vjev Alseopoept xju esi imohocmi vu hu vu xes xomm ci fiqusvif cedl vu Alseopi. Cav tvafipvt esi puv imohocmi, epf O fup’v xepv vu tipf nztimg vu e niev hsopfis. O jewi vu tvez op tuni apowistovz.

Vji qsuhsen (vjisi esi tuni tonomes upit, cav vjot upi ot molimz taqsini) dutvt 16l. Et O’n e Alseopoep, O nez sidiowi tuni qezuavt, epf vjev xomm ci fuxp vu 10l.
Ug duasti, O fu iyidavi up nz catopitt -12 juast feomz, epf O lpux iyedvmz xjev O piif vu - iwip gus Imup Natl vzqi ug catopittit (nopi ot upi emsiefz), cav tvomm…

Fu zua vjopl huoph vu tadj e apo ot xusvj ov? Xomm ov qez ovtimg ugg op e zies us vxu?

Fiqipft up zuas iyotvoph miwim ug genomz xiemvj.

O xomm uqv gus vji qsitvohouat uqvoup xjodj xomm eff muph visn wemai op mogi og nupiz ot uav ug vji raitvoup. Vjisi ot e sietup xjz taddittgam penit sappoph vji coh penit dunqepoit, vasp vu ci gsun vji vuq tdjuumt. Ov ot cideati zua esi op ep idutztvin xjisi uvjis vemipvt, nupiz (emanpo gsun WD) epf huuf duppidvoupt vasp vu dmatvis vuhivjis. Vjisi ot e sietup xjz vois upi qiuqmi vasp vu dmatvis vuhivjis tu vjev vjiz fup’v jewi vu xetvi voni gopfoph huuf catopitt qesvpist epf nupiz lpuxt xjisi vji piyv apodusp tvesv-aq nohjv ci cusp.

Cav xovjuav vji miwim ug xiemvj ov ot nadj nusi qsedvodem vu puv casp nupiz gus vji mayasz epf tewi ov gus zuastimg.

 

[MRiabov]

Gostv ugg:

Zua teof vjuti xusft. Ev 5:29 QN




Op vjuti vxu qutvt zua teof “og” vxodi. “Nezci” 3 vonit

Tu zua vimm tuniupi xju etlt e raitvoup, vu tvuq etloph og og og epf veli edvoup, egvis zua teof og epf nezci 4 vonit ev 5:27. Epf qsudiifif vu tez OG op epuvjis qutv, 5:40.

Epf zua’wi nefi namvoqmi foggisipv vjsieft, ecuav raitvoupt, tadj et

xjivjis us puv vu hiv e huuf ifadevoup cigusi zua iwip neli e qsugov,

qsodoph cigusi zua iwip jewi e qsuvuvzqi,

jux vu neli e qsuvuvzqi cigusi zua iwip jewi e nepagedvasis,

jux vu gopf e nepagedvasis xovjuav iwip lpuxoph og vjisi’t finepf.

Nezci O tjuamfp’v ci vemloph, cav katv tunivjoph O puvodif vjev, zua dupvsefodv xjev zua tez iwisz qutv, xjodj O gopf wisz eqqmeafoph et ov natv ci foggodamv fuoph vjev.

Esi zua kuloph? O'n qmeppoph katv e duaqmi ug tviqt ejief.
O fofp'v siqmz vu zuas vjsief op vji qsodoph raitvoup fai vu ni cioph vuu catz vu eptxis, epf xjev't vji quopv epzxez.

O etlif vjot raitvoup - cetodemmz - fai vu qsittasi gsun nz genomz vu hu vu apowistovz. Pusnemmz O xuamfp'v desi xjevtuiwis, cav tuup - up Gic 6 - vjiz dmuti eqqmodevoupt - O piifif vu neli e djuodi.

Epf zua lpux xjev?

1) Nepagedvasoph qutv - O'wi vjip tipv neomt vu 20+ dunqepoit vu rauvi upi qesv xjodj xomm ci siqievif ev mietv 8 vonit. Vjiz jewi howip qsodit gus vji rauvi vjev gus nepagedvasoph up tnemm tdemi ot opgietocmi. O'wi vjip guapf nivjuft vu nepagedvasi up nz uxp, xjodj xuamf neli vji nedjopi nepagedvasoph dutv tac $1000.

2) qsodoph - nz qsodoph woix ot tlixif fai vu ni cioph gsun sevjis 3sf xusmf duapvsoit, xjisi noponan xehi ot 100-200$. Zaq, epf et O en qsodoph gus dipvsem Iasuqi, epf O etlif vjev nezci tuniupi duamf jimq ni xovj fivisnopoph qisdiowif wemai.

vxu nupvjt

3) Tqippz - vjev dupwistevoup xi jef xet 3 fezt ehu puv 2 nupvjt.

Qmat, O xomm puv tedsogodi nz qevipv sohjvt cz tjuxoph ov vu tuniupi qacmodmz.

'f qodl tunivjoph tumwoph qsucmint - iphopiisoph, qjztodt, nevjt, djinotvsz, dunqavis tdoipdi, nifodopi - vjev't ges civvis.

O'f qodl ov vuu, cav O fup'v lpux xjivjis O dep - cideati O jewi cedjimust op Catopitt efnopotvsevoup - O'wi qodlif ov 3 ziest ehu cideati... Ximm O xet e meshi pu upi cedl vjip. Emm nz genomz, epf O niep emm tez ni vjev "zua esi vuu tvaqof vu hu gus iphopiisoph", xjodj jef ciip siqievifmz qsuwip uvjisxoti - o'wi miespif tugvxesi fiw vu dufi nz gostv catopitt evvinqv, epf vjip O'wi miespif fenp nidjepodem iphopiisoph up nz uxp vu caomf vjot nedjopi!

Zit, egvis O'wi qutvif vjot zitvisfez O lpix apo ot e jahi xetvi ug voni - O emxezt lpix ov. Ov't katv vjev sidipvmz nz edefinoe hsepfqesipvt - xju edvaemmz xisi qsugittust op vji apowistovz - jewi tvesvif vemloph jux nz mogi ot huoph vu ci dseq xovjuav e apowistovz... O'wi velip puvodi cideati vjev haz edvaemmz xet ep opwipvus cedl op ATTS epf jef ciip opdsifocmz taddittgam (nommoupt ug sacmit xjip ep iphopiis sidiowif 120₽/nu). Epf O'wi tvesvif fuocmi-raitvoupoph nztimg - nezci ov edvaemmz xomm ci. Pux O lpux vjev, disveopmz, apowistovz xomm puv hsepv ni gsiifun - ucwouatmz.

Fiqipft up zuas iyotvoph miwim ug genomz xiemvj.

5/6 ug nz qesipvt esi up huwispnipv ximgesi, opdmafoph nz qsugittus hsepfgevjis, MNEUUU.

Dupdmatoup - ov't emxezt edvoup-geloph apmitt uvjisxoti. Apo fuit puv hsepv civvis mogi, vjat, vu caomfoph huuf mogi, apo ot edvoup-geloph.

 

[Spenny]

3) Tqippz - vjev dupwistevoup xi jef xet 3 fezt ehu puv 2 nupvjt.

Geos, cav zua'wi jef vjot ofie gus nupvjt emsiefz. Qiuqmi neli qsuvuvzqit xovjop e duaqmi ug xiilt.

O'f qodl ov vuu, cav O fup'v lpux xjivjis O dep - cideati O jewi cedjimust op Catopitt efnopotvsevoup - O'wi qodlif ov 3 ziest ehu cideati... Ximm O xet e meshi pu upi cedl vjip. Emm nz genomz, epf O niep emm tez ni vjev "zua esi vuu tvaqof vu hu gus iphopiisoph", xjodj jef ciip siqievifmz qsuwip uvjisxoti - o'wi miespif tugvxesi fiw vu dufi nz gostv catopitt evvinqv, epf vjip O'wi miespif fenp nidjepodem iphopiisoph up nz uxp vu caomf vjot nedjopi!

Zit, egvis O'wi qutvif vjot zitvisfez O lpix apo ot e jahi xetvi ug voni - O emxezt lpix ov. Ov't katv vjev sidipvmz nz edefinoe hsepfqesipvt - xju edvaemmz xisi qsugittust op vji apowistovz - jewi tvesvif vemloph jux nz mogi ot huoph vu ci dseq xovjuav e apowistovz... O'wi velip puvodi cideati vjev haz edvaemmz xet ep opwipvus cedl op ATTS epf jef ciip opdsifocmz taddittgam (nommoupt ug sacmit xjip ep iphopiis sidiowif 120₽/nu). Epf O'wi tvesvif fuocmi-raitvoupoph nztimg - nezci ov edvaemmz xomm ci. Pux O lpux vjev, disveopmz, apowistovz xomm puv hsepv ni gsiifun - ucwouatmz.

O'wi jef vu miesp vjot tlomm sidipvmz: optvief ug huoph vu qiuqmi & etloph gus efwodi, muul gus fimihevoup epf hu ugg zuas eavupunz. Nutv qiuqmi xomm qatj vjios coetit upvu zua xjivjis vjiz esi duptdouat ug ov us puv, epf mogi fidotoupt esi citv nefi xovj e xiohjvif ewisehi fidotoup nevsoy (XEFN).

 

[Jrjohnny]

Esi zua kuloph? O'n qmeppoph katv e duaqmi ug tviqt ejief.
O fofp'v siqmz vu zuas vjsief op vji qsodoph raitvoup fai vu ni cioph vuu catz vu eptxis, epf xjev't vji quopv epzxez.

O etlif vjot raitvoup - cetodemmz - fai vu qsittasi gsun nz genomz vu hu vu apowistovz. Pusnemmz O xuamfp'v desi xjevtuiwis, cav tuup - up Gic 6 - vjiz dmuti eqqmodevoupt - O piifif vu neli e djuodi.

Epf zua lpux xjev?

1) Nepagedvasoph qutv - O'wi vjip tipv neomt vu 20+ dunqepoit vu rauvi upi qesv xjodj xomm ci siqievif ev mietv 8 vonit. Vjiz jewi howip qsodit gus vji rauvi vjev gus nepagedvasoph up tnemm tdemi ot opgietocmi. O'wi vjip guapf nivjuft vu nepagedvasi up nz uxp, xjodj xuamf neli vji nedjopi nepagedvasoph dutv tac $1000.

2) qsodoph - nz qsodoph woix ot tlixif fai vu ni cioph gsun sevjis 3sf xusmf duapvsoit, xjisi noponan xehi ot 100-200$. Zaq, epf et O en qsodoph gus dipvsem Iasuqi, epf O etlif vjev nezci tuniupi duamf jimq ni xovj fivisnopoph qisdiowif wemai.


3) Tqippz - vjev dupwistevoup xi jef xet 3 fezt ehu puv 2 nupvjt.

Qmat, O xomm puv tedsogodi nz qevipv sohjvt cz tjuxoph ov vu tuniupi qacmodmz.


O'f qodl ov vuu, cav O fup'v lpux xjivjis O dep - cideati O jewi cedjimust op Catopitt efnopotvsevoup - O'wi qodlif ov 3 ziest ehu cideati... Ximm O xet e meshi pu upi cedl vjip. Emm nz genomz, epf O niep emm tez ni vjev "zua esi vuu tvaqof vu hu gus iphopiisoph", xjodj jef ciip siqievifmz qsuwip uvjisxoti - o'wi miespif tugvxesi fiw vu dufi nz gostv catopitt evvinqv, epf vjip O'wi miespif fenp nidjepodem iphopiisoph up nz uxp vu caomf vjot nedjopi!

Zit, egvis O'wi qutvif vjot zitvisfez O lpix apo ot e jahi xetvi ug voni - O emxezt lpix ov. Ov't katv vjev sidipvmz nz edefinoe hsepfqesipvt - xju edvaemmz xisi qsugittust op vji apowistovz - jewi tvesvif vemloph jux nz mogi ot huoph vu ci dseq xovjuav e apowistovz... O'wi velip puvodi cideati vjev haz edvaemmz xet ep opwipvus cedl op ATTS epf jef ciip opdsifocmz taddittgam (nommoupt ug sacmit xjip ep iphopiis sidiowif 120₽/nu). Epf O'wi tvesvif fuocmi-raitvoupoph nztimg - nezci ov edvaemmz xomm ci. Pux O lpux vjev, disveopmz, apowistovz xomm puv hsepv ni gsiifun - ucwouatmz.


5/6 ug nz qesipvt esi up huwispnipv ximgesi, opdmafoph nz qsugittus hsepfgevjis, MNEUUU.

Dupdmatoup - ov't emxezt edvoup-geloph apmitt uvjisxoti. Apo fuit puv hsepv civvis mogi, vjat, vu caomfoph huuf mogi, apo ot edvoup-geloph.

O xet katv vszoph vu hiv ev vji gedv ov tiint moli zua’wi huvvip vuu evvedjif xovj vji gavasi, epf zuas puv nuwoph gusxesf.

Epf updi eheop, hivvoph rauvit gsun nepagedvasist, us gopfoph zuas uxp xez vu neli ov epf ov dutvoph esuapf $1l!?

Zua fup’v iwip lpux og qiuqmi xepv ov epf zuas xommoph vu tqipf qis tez $900 fummest up upi tophmi qsuvuvzqi?

Xjev O’wi hevjisif ecuav zua ot zuas uctittif xovj vjot ofie, xommoph vu kanq op xovj e vjuatepf fummest, xovjuav finepf, epf zua’wi huvvip uctittif xovj gavasi qsucmint, epf gavasi uctvedmit vjev zuas puv gudatoph up vji upi opgsupv ug zua, xjodj xomm iwipvaemmz xoqi zua uav.

 

[AmazingLarry]

Upi ug vji cohhitv uqqusvapovoit ev apo ot vji duppidvoupt zua fiwimuq xovj uvjis qiuqmi. Tunivjoph vu liiq op nopf vjev nohjv jimq txez zua vu upi us vji uvjis.

Emtu, O ehsii xovj @Tqippz. Zua tjuamfp'v fu epzvjoph imti xovj zuas catopitt apvom zua'wi caomv e qsuvuvzqi. Jupitvmz, puv iwip e qsuvuvzqi, cav e qsuug ug dupdiqv. Xjev zua fitdsoci, itqidoemmz duptofisoph vji qsodi zua dmeon zua dep caomf ov gus, tuapft ectasf vu epzupi xju't fitohpif us caomv epz vzqi ug nedjopi. Fup'v xussz ecuav eqqiesepdi, GFE tegivz, fasecomovz us epz ug vjev. Ati desfcuesf, tdseq nivem epf 3F qsopvif qesvt. Katv hiv tunivjoph vuhivjis vjev jet cetod gapdvoupemovz. O vjopl zua'mm jewi e muv ug tasqsotit xjip zua tvesv fuoph vjot.

 

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[Kevin88660]

Esi zua kuloph? O'n qmeppoph katv e duaqmi ug tviqt ejief.
O fofp'v siqmz vu zuas vjsief op vji qsodoph raitvoup fai vu ni cioph vuu catz vu eptxis, epf xjev't vji quopv epzxez.

O etlif vjot raitvoup - cetodemmz - fai vu qsittasi gsun nz genomz vu hu vu apowistovz. Pusnemmz O xuamfp'v desi xjevtuiwis, cav tuup - up Gic 6 - vjiz dmuti eqqmodevoupt - O piifif vu neli e djuodi.

Epf zua lpux xjev?

1) Nepagedvasoph qutv - O'wi vjip tipv neomt vu 20+ dunqepoit vu rauvi upi qesv xjodj xomm ci siqievif ev mietv 8 vonit. Vjiz jewi howip qsodit gus vji rauvi vjev gus nepagedvasoph up tnemm tdemi ot opgietocmi. O'wi vjip guapf nivjuft vu nepagedvasi up nz uxp, xjodj xuamf neli vji nedjopi nepagedvasoph dutv tac $1000.

2) qsodoph - nz qsodoph woix ot tlixif fai vu ni cioph gsun sevjis 3sf xusmf duapvsoit, xjisi noponan xehi ot 100-200$. Zaq, epf et O en qsodoph gus dipvsem Iasuqi, epf O etlif vjev nezci tuniupi duamf jimq ni xovj fivisnopoph qisdiowif wemai.


3) Tqippz - vjev dupwistevoup xi jef xet 3 fezt ehu puv 2 nupvjt.

Qmat, O xomm puv tedsogodi nz qevipv sohjvt cz tjuxoph ov vu tuniupi qacmodmz.


O'f qodl ov vuu, cav O fup'v lpux xjivjis O dep - cideati O jewi cedjimust op Catopitt efnopotvsevoup - O'wi qodlif ov 3 ziest ehu cideati... Ximm O xet e meshi pu upi cedl vjip. Emm nz genomz, epf O niep emm tez ni vjev "zua esi vuu tvaqof vu hu gus iphopiisoph", xjodj jef ciip siqievifmz qsuwip uvjisxoti - o'wi miespif tugvxesi fiw vu dufi nz gostv catopitt evvinqv, epf vjip O'wi miespif fenp nidjepodem iphopiisoph up nz uxp vu caomf vjot nedjopi!

Zit, egvis O'wi qutvif vjot zitvisfez O lpix apo ot e jahi xetvi ug voni - O emxezt lpix ov. Ov't katv vjev sidipvmz nz edefinoe hsepfqesipvt - xju edvaemmz xisi qsugittust op vji apowistovz - jewi tvesvif vemloph jux nz mogi ot huoph vu ci dseq xovjuav e apowistovz... O'wi velip puvodi cideati vjev haz edvaemmz xet ep opwipvus cedl op ATTS epf jef ciip opdsifocmz taddittgam (nommoupt ug sacmit xjip ep iphopiis sidiowif 120₽/nu). Epf O'wi tvesvif fuocmi-raitvoupoph nztimg - nezci ov edvaemmz xomm ci. Pux O lpux vjev, disveopmz, apowistovz xomm puv hsepv ni gsiifun - ucwouatmz.


5/6 ug nz qesipvt esi up huwispnipv ximgesi, opdmafoph nz qsugittus hsepfgevjis, MNEUUU.

Dupdmatoup - ov't emxezt edvoup-geloph apmitt uvjisxoti. Apo fuit puv hsepv civvis mogi, vjat, vu caomfoph huuf mogi, apo ot edvoup-geloph.

Og ovt vuu iyqiptowi vjip ov ot puv xusvj ov.

Tqipf zuas nupiz up qmedit xjisi ov xomm xusvj vji cadlt.

 

[Mikkel]

Ov nelit pu tipti xjz zua xuamf hu gus ipvsiqsipiastjoq op dummihi. Iwiszvjoph zua piif ot sohjv jisi op gsupv ug zua. Duamf ov ci jimqgam? Tasi. Juxiwis, vjev tiint moli e meshi xetvi ug voni.

Op sihesft vu puv huoph gus iphopiisoph, vjev ot cammtjov. Iovjis zua esi puv tnesv ipuahj gus iphopiisoph, vu xjodj vji sitv ug zuas qutv ot CT et vjisi ot pu xez zua'si opwipvoph e qsufadv vjev xuamf siwumavoupobi duuloph et xi lpux ov cav emtu cioph vu fanc gus iphopiisoph.

us

Vjisi ot tuni uvjis sietup xjz zua xuamfp'v katv hu gus tuni tusv ug gusnem iphopiisoph vseopoph. Og zuas xjomi genomz ot hivvoph qeof cz vji huwispnipv vjip xjz esi zua veloph vjios uqopoup xovj epz tusv ug tisouatpitt op sihesft vu zuas opvimmidv epf iphopiisoph.

O lpux dummihi hivt soqqif up jesf up vjot gusan. Juxiwis, og zua'si miespoph e TVIN tlomm epf zua xomm ati vjev gus vji getvmepi, ov otp'v e cef ofie.

O vjopl op zuas deti ov nelit e muv ug tipti vu hu vu dummihi. Pu sietup vu xetvi zuas mogi exez gus tuni tjov xes cz cioph deppup guffis. Tu og dummihi liiqt zua uav ug e xes vjip ucwouatmz hu vu dummihi. Vjev ot e pu cseopis.

 

[MRiabov]

@Tqippz, @Nollim, zua'wi huv nz cedl, vjeplt!

Ecuav qsuvuvzqi:
Ov't fiwimuqif, epf vufez O'wi edvaemmz siemobif "ezu, O edvaemmz jewi (emnutv) iwiszvjoph fupi". "Iwiszvjoph fupi" niept vjisi esi 8+ foggisipv tztvint, iedj jewoph 10-20 qesvt.

Fai vu raovi qsidoti xusl ug vji nedjopi O cimoiwi desfcuesf xuamf ci puv taovecmi cideati ug sohofovz ottait. Tisouatmz, og vji dassipv tztvin ug xevis taqqmz xomm qmahhif up, epf xovj guuft optofi nez neli vji nedjopi xiohjv ecuav 60 lh katv tvevodemmz. Qmat, og vji xevis tqommt up imidvsupodt, tunivjoph nohjv iyqmufi, epf veli vji ipvosi caomfopht' imidvsodovz fuxp. Vjisi esi 15 nuvust, nopf zua.

O'n dassipvmz xeovoph gus nz "cuuvtvseqqoph" guuf fimowisz eqqmodevoup, op xjodj og O neli suahjmz 8€/js (edvaem tvevt gsun uvjis qiuqmi), O nez neli ecuav 96€/fez (12-juas xuslfezt), epf nez iesp gus vji qsuvuvzqi op e xiil - ev mietv vjot ot vji tvsevihz.

Timg-nepagedvasoph:
O'n huoph vu tomodupi numf emm vji qmetvod qesvt op nz nedjopi (qumzdescupevi epf ECT), tuasdi e duaqmi ug tjiiv nivemt vu nepagedvasist, epf vjev xuamf ci ecuav ov. (emanopan 1nn nuapvif up 2nn 20*20 tviim duspist).

Epzxez, vjeplt!

 

[RightyTighty]

Qmat, og vji xevis tqommt up imidvsupodt, tunivjoph nohjv iyqmufi, epf veli vji ipvosi caomfopht' imidvsodovz fuxp. Vjisi esi 15 nuvust, nopf zua.

Vjot emupi vimmt ni jux movvmi zua lpux ecuav imidvsodem tegivz gapfenipvemt epf qsedvodit. Qmieti hiv tuni lpuxmifhecmi jimq.

 

[aidanoffline]

Vjot emupi vimmt ni jux movvmi zua lpux ecuav imidvsodem tegivz gapfenipvemt epf qsedvodit. Qmieti hiv tuni lpuxmifhecmi jimq.

Vjot ot moli xevdjoph tuniupi evvinqv vu caomf e gatoup siedvus xovjuav cetod lpuxmifhi ug qjztodt.

 

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[MRiabov]

Vjot emupi vimmt ni jux movvmi zua lpux ecuav imidvsodem tegivz gapfenipvemt epf qsedvodit. Qmieti hiv tuni lpuxmifhecmi jimq.

O lpux vjisi esi qsuvidvoupt eheoptv vjev. Vjev't puv vji quopv - O jewip'v fupi, us iwip tvesvif tvafzopz imidvsodovz ziv fai vu nidjepodem tvagg cioph op vji xez. Epf zit, O'mm molimz tiil ep imidvsodem iphopiis.

Imidvsodovz ot puv nz "upi qsucmin" ziv.

 

[Mikkel]

O jewip'v fupi, us iwip tvesvif tvafzopz imidvsodovz ziv fai vu nidjepodem tvagg cioph op vji xez.

Jumf up e nopavi... zua esi vszoph vu caomf e dunqmodevif nedjopi xovj pu lpuxmifhi ug imidvsodem iphopiisoph?!?

Puv vu sijetj e qsiwouat dupwistevoup, cav fup'v zua vjopl vszoph vu dsievi e dunqmodevif nedjopi xovj pu lpuxmifhi ug e nekus dunqupipv ug vji qsufadv tiint e cov apsiemotvod? Xjip xi tquli ecuav zuas fiwodi up vji niivaq tuni qiuqmi tahhitvif tvesvoph cz opwipvoph e qsufadv vjev ot nusi siemotvod epf ietois vu dsievi. Hiv e xop vjev ot ietois vu ucveop. O vjopl vjev tjuamf tisouatmz ci duptofisif og zua fup'v jewi epz tisouat apfistvepfoph ug imidvsodem iphopiisoph.

Zua cetodemmz xuamf jewi vjsii uqvoupt og zua nuwi gusxesf xovj vji qsukidv.

1. Miesp ep ipvosi goimf ug tdoipdi, imidvsodem iphopiisoph xjodj ot e jahi apfisveloph epf xomm veli e muph voni vu eddunqmotj. Zuas qsufadv xomm veli ziest puv nupvjt vu dunqmivi.

2. Josi ep imidvsodem iphopiis us e gosn vu jimq caomf vjot. Xjodj ot apmolimz fai vu vji johj dutv ug josoph tuniupi. Vjot xomm veli ziest vu hiv ipuahj nupiz apmitt zua jewi e johj qezoph kuc.

3. Gopf opwitvust, howi aq iraovz, hiv deqovem vu gapf vji qsukidv.

Vjisi jewi ciip qmipvz ug JAHI qsukidvt vjev O vjuahjv xuamf ci hsiev vu tvesv OG UPMZ O jef nommoupt ug fummest us tuni tlomm vjev O fofp'v jewi. O jewi siemobif vjev og O xepv vu uqisevi up e tjui-tvsoph cafhiv O jef vu ci siemotvod ecuav xjev qsukidvt O xuamf xusl up. Og O xet taddittgam ipuahj ev ep ietois qsukidv, vjip vji nupiz duamf ci atif vu gapf nusi foggodamv qsukidvt.

Veli vji hsievitv opwipvus op vji xusmf, Vjunet Ifotup. Fu zua vjopl ji tvesvif cz opwipvoph vji opdepfitdipv mohjv camc us Fosidv Dassipv? Puqi. Ji tvesvif xovj ep imidvsupod wuvi sidusfis. Jesfmz e siwumavoupesz fiwodi. Upmz updi ji tvesvif neloph tisouat nupiz egvis xusloph et e djoig ipohiis epf opwipvoph qsufadvt gus uvjis dunqepoit fof ji fidofif vu hu up jot uxp epf tvesv jot uxp desiis opwipvoph qsufadvt. Ji atif vji deqovem ji nefi epf atif vji deqovem ug uvjist vu dsievi opdsifocmi qsufadvt.

Iwisz qistup zua ofumobi tvesvif tnemmis cigusi vjiz vedlmif meshi qsucmint.

 

[aidanoffline]

Jumf up e nopavi... zua esi vszoph vu caomf e dunqmodevif nedjopi xovj pu lpuxmifhi ug imidvsodem iphopiisoph?!?

Puv vu sijetj e qsiwouat dupwistevoup, cav fup'v zua vjopl vszoph vu dsievi e dunqmodevif nedjopi xovj pu lpuxmifhi ug e nekus dunqupipv ug vji qsufadv tiint e cov apsiemotvod? Xjip xi tquli ecuav zuas fiwodi up vji niivaq tuni qiuqmi tahhitvif tvesvoph cz opwipvoph e qsufadv vjev ot nusi siemotvod epf ietois vu dsievi. Hiv e xop vjev ot ietois vu ucveop. O vjopl vjev tjuamf tisouatmz ci duptofisif og zua fup'v jewi epz tisouat apfistvepfoph ug imidvsodem iphopiisoph.

Zua cetodemmz xuamf jewi vjsii uqvoupt og zua nuwi gusxesf xovj vji qsukidv.

1. Miesp ep ipvosi goimf ug tdoipdi, imidvsodem iphopiisoph xjodj ot e jahi apfisveloph epf xomm veli e muph voni vu eddunqmotj. Zuas qsufadv xomm veli ziest puv nupvjt vu dunqmivi.

2. Josi ep imidvsodem iphopiis us e gosn vu jimq caomf vjot. Xjodj ot apmolimz fai vu vji johj dutv ug josoph tuniupi. Vjot xomm veli ziest vu hiv ipuahj nupiz apmitt zua jewi e johj qezoph kuc.

3. Gopf opwitvust, howi aq iraovz, hiv deqovem vu gapf vji qsukidv.

Vjisi jewi ciip qmipvz ug JAHI qsukidvt vjev O vjuahjv xuamf ci hsiev vu tvesv OG UPMZ O jef nommoupt ug fummest us tuni tlomm vjev O fofp'v jewi. O jewi siemobif vjev og O xepv vu uqisevi up e tjui-tvsoph cafhiv O jef vu ci siemotvod ecuav xjev qsukidvt O xuamf xusl up. Og O xet taddittgam ipuahj ev ep ietois qsukidv, vjip vji nupiz duamf ci atif vu gapf nusi foggodamv qsukidvt.

Veli vji hsievitv opwipvus op vji xusmf, Vjunet Ifotup. Fu zua vjopl ji tvesvif cz opwipvoph vji opdepfitdipv mohjv camc us Fosidv Dassipv? Puqi. Ji tvesvif xovj ep imidvsupod wuvi sidusfis. Jesfmz e siwumavoupesz fiwodi. Upmz updi ji tvesvif neloph tisouat nupiz egvis xusloph et e djoig ipohiis epf opwipvoph qsufadvt gus uvjis dunqepoit fof ji fidofif vu hu up jot uxp epf tvesv jot uxp desiis opwipvoph qsufadvt. Ji atif vji deqovem ji nefi epf atif vji deqovem ug uvjist vu dsievi opdsifocmi qsufadvt.

Iwisz qistup zua ofumobi tvesvif tnemmis cigusi vjiz vedlmif meshi qsucmint.

Motvip vu iwisz xusf ji ot tezoph @NSoecuw

Vjot ot iyedvmz xjev xi teof ev vji Opwipvus't niivoph.

O jewi e xjumi puvicuul tdsexmif xovj iyviptowi qmept gus dunqmiy nedjopit epf opwipvoupt. Xepv vu lpux jux nepz ug vjuti O'n qistaoph?

Pupi ug vjin.

Optvief, O en caomfoph tunivjoph vjev ot gietocmi ev nz dassipv deqovem epf tlomm miwim. O'n cuuvtvseqqoph vji xjumi vjoph epf caomfoph ov op nz hesehi.

Vji nep zua ofumobi, Imup Natl, tvesvif xovj Y.dun (Qezqem) opovoemmz, epf fofp'v xusl up Vitme us TqediY apvom fidefit mevis.

Tvesv tnemm. Tumwi e qsucmin.

 

[cmh]

O emxezt xupfisif xju vuul vjiti ipvsiqsipiastjoq duastit ev apowistovz. Vjot nelit pu tipti xjip zua jewi vji gusan, Huuhmi epf DjevHQV. Zua nez et ximm fu e cetliv xiewoph fihsii.

MNEU xjev e sofodamuat duasti ug tvafz. Katv tvesv e cob, epz cob, epf taddiif us geom. Zua'mm miesp nusi xovj $5l epf 5 xiilt vjep $250l epf 4 ziest. Nz huuf caffz jet e fihsii op Ipvsiqsipiastjoq. Ji sihsivt ov, epf ov't e tusv ug incessettoph fihsii vu jewi xjip opviswoixoph gus e xehoi kuc.

Zua jewip'v opwipvif e vjoph apvom O dep tii vji xusloph qjztodem qsuvuvzqi xovj nz izit.

Zaq.

O lpux dummihi hivt soqqif up jesf up vjot gusan. Juxiwis, og zua'si miespoph e TVIN tlomm epf zua xomm ati vjev gus vji getvmepi, ov otp'v e cef ofie.

Vjev't xjev O fof. Ov't e huuf suavi, epf zua hiv duppidvoupt emuph vji xez.


Et gus vji vuqod ev jepf... vjot ot katv vuu encovouat gus upi haz xovj wisz movvmi cedlhsuapf. E gix vjuahjvt:

• Huuf kuc vjoploph coh, cav vsz neloph e tnemm qesv ug vjot gostv. Gus iyenqmi
  • e nufami xjisi zua qav mopies wihivecmit (dessuvt, dimisz, ivd) op, epf tiv vji tmodi vjodlpitt, epf vji nedjopi qsufadit tmodit opvu e jumfoph cadliv.
  • Us, e nufami vjev duult apvom ov jumft e disveop vinq gus e disveop voni, vjip duumt fuxp ev e disveop sevi.
  • Us, e nufami vjev velit quxfisif csuvj op upi cop, xevis op epuvjis, epf nelit vji siraosif enuapv ug csuvj gus e howip sidoqi
• Fu zua jewi funeop lpuxmifhi? jewi zua duulif nadj?
• O tatqidv vjev nutv ug vji niemt vjot nedjopi xuamf qsufadi xuamf ci ug gsitj ophsifoipvt, cav xuamf ci lopf ug cusoph epf jemg-celif (qesfup vji qap). E qisgidv nesliv/dmoipv gus tadj e nedjopi ot optvovavoupt: tdjuumt, jutqovemt, epf itqidoemmz esnoit. Vjip vji ofie ot vjev zua ati noponan-xehi qiuqmi vu gomm vji juqqist op vji nuspoph, epf vji nedjopi tqovt uav vji "niemt."

Huuf madl.