I am working on Retention/Email Marketing as a Service for eCommerce brands idea, would love to hear as much constructive criticism as possible...

[makingofme]

What’s up everyone.

Wanted to create a post where I can hear from people directly, possibly even ecom guys from here. ( I am also executing on this idea in real time, just finished outreach 15 minutes ago )

I am not selling anything, not “pitching” anything, just wanted to create a post to discuss something with you guys.

For starters, I’ve owned an email marketing for ecom brands agency before and moved on to other ventures and since I haven’t been active in the space for a long time.

I’ve been pretty successful at it, we were multi 7 figure revenue attributed to emails/sms for our clients at the peak, before I shut it down.

I want to come back to this space of providing that service again, but what shocked me was finding that there’s like 1,400 agency partners on Klaviyo’s directory site, and since I do not want to become a “me too” idiotic agency, since I personally hate a lot of agencies aswell and I can only imagine how much ecom guys get pitched daily for these “me too” services.

In saying that, I want to distance myself from those folks as far away as possible and do not want to become a “me too” guy, I want to provide a great service, build a great relationship with the team behind XYZ brands and continue on working with them until they do not longer need us, or feel like we don’t provide great value to them anymore.

So my idea for this post is to see what you guys have to say, all I care about is that it's honest feedback, no sugar coating against/for type stuff.

Even back then, we weren’t running just email marketing as a service, but more so back end optimization ( LTV:CAC, CRR and most importantly we were solving and optimizing for the most important metric which is profit margins )

And as I said, not selling anything at the moment, don’t need the money and until I have a service that is way better than what is out there that you guys get pitched on constantly I assume.

My idea for now, just based on my experience and knowledge from before and how I see the industry is aside from the usual :

1. Email/SMS design, copy, flows/campaigns, deliverability

2. I’d also make the service focused on improving, acquiring and segmenting LTV, Repeat Buyers, 0PD, advanced segmentation and most importantly the whole backend would be optimizing for profit-margins first ( lowering the discounting of things, especially when converting non-buyers when CAC is already high as is, and then you give a 10% discount, and you just increased your CAC on that customer… I personally hate discount pop ups, because they erode margins a lot, so as I said the service would be approached and delivered from a profit first perspective.

Would love to hear what you guys think, constructive criticism, advice, feedback, whatever, let me know as I am super excited to hear all the stuff, the good, the bad, current experiences, suggestions, whatever else you think I need to hear regardless if it’s against/for the idea.

Thanks for reading.

 

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[makingofme]

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