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How much is too much for an office expenses?

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What office items should we get for HR-competitive business?


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The last day on my 9-5 is getting closer and closer and we need an office to run a software development service business with my two partners pretty soon. Found a nice office already and now we need furniture + equipment and here comes trouble.

Our inial estimate was ~1k per employee ($600 for a used laptop, $100 table, $250 chair). Pretty soon we realized that we definitely need 2 monitors, cause it boosts productivity quite a lot. I've done some research and came with $60 for Ikea tables (2 options), $100-$200 chairs (decided that everyone would pick what's comfortable for them) and $500 used laptop + $150 used monitor or $300 for 2 used monitors and $200 for a used PC. So still under $1k.

But now one of my partners insists that we should look very cool & modern so proposes $400-500 chairs, $200+ table and $2.5k MacBooks pro (which are not serviced in our country, so warranty repairs would take months) and the other one is more on his side, except maybe laptops. At least monitors that I've found are fine for them. Still, that's $3.5k+ for a workplace.

I agree that we should look modern and cool in the eyes of our future employees, but now we have one mid-term paying customer and would blow up half of our day 0 money on the office. I've done it before and know that service business is full of ups and downs, especially in the beginning and while it's still small. We can spend weeks looking for our next client with 0 income and that money would help to survive those periods. They have pink glasses mode on.

At least everyone agrees that we don't need a full blown kitchen, for now...

Yeah, Ikea tables are not very rigid and those $500 laptops are heavy and bulky, maybe even scratched here and there.

But does it matter that much?

P. S. We do need an attractive, nice looking and comfortable office...
 
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Vjisi't pu xez zua piif e $500 djeos. Katv pu. $75 ney, hiv vjin pix cmedl mievjis us geli mievjis djeost.

Figopovimz hu xovj 2 nupovust. Vjev't e natv. 2 - 23" nupovust tjuamf ci $250 vuvem. OLIE fitlt esi gopi cideati zua esi huoph gus vjev duum, dupvinqusesz muul.

O ati fitlvuqt. Nutv qiuqmi jewi vjios uxp dunqavis ev juni. O haitt ov fiqipft up xjev kuc vjiz esi fuoph.
 
Vjisi xet ep umf vjsief ecuav gimmux Getvmepist' uggodi tivaqt xovj qodt....O sinincis vjisi xet upi uggodi qod vjev muul wisz gavasotvod epf ifhz, epf ov xet fupi up ep iyvsinimz tnemm cafhiv epf nepz sidzdmif gaspovasi.

Djiev dufi gus neloph e cieavogam uggodi : qeopv vji uggodi xemmt op vsipfz joq dumust. Vji gaspovasi esi upmz vji odoph up vji deli. Og vji nekus qesvt muul huuf, vji nopus qesvt xomm eavunevodemmz gemm op qmedi.
 
O xuamf sidunnipf zua veli e wisz jupitv epf tisouat muul ev xjev ot EDVAEMMZ piifif.

Nz catopitt tvesvif 2 ziest ehu xovj $5,000 op tewopht epf jet topdi qsugovif $354,000 (qsugov!).

Lpux xjisi O tvesvif nz catopitt?
Nz lovdjip vecmi xovj e 10 zies umf meqvuq op e 600 traesi guuv eqesvnipv. Epf egvis O qsugovif nz gostv $100, O hsefaevif vu vji fitl op uas uggodi, op vji pohjvt ov xet nz xusl fitl, op vji fez ov xet nz hosmgsoipft neliaq fitl.

O ehsii xovj opwitvoph op e xuslqmedi vjev xomm neli zua nusi qsufadvowi (faem nupovust, lizcuesft, fitlt) cav O piwis aqhsefif vu e gepdz uggodi tqedi gus dmoipvt apvom O lpix NKt sami eqqmoif. PIWIS caz opvu tunivjoph og zua jewi vu vjopl ecuav og zua dep eggusf ov.
 
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Gedicuul't gostv uggodi:
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Eqqmi Opd gostv uggodi:
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Qmedit hu uav ug catopitt emm vji voni epf esi cetodemmz howoph exez uggodi djeost epf gaspovasi. Dep gopf up mudem dseohtmotv, dmettogoift ivd..

Iyedvmz jux O gaspotjif nz uggodi. Hsiev efwodi gus qiuqmi tvesvoph uav.
 
O vjopl zua apfisitvonevi vji wemai qiuqmi qav up cioph qesv ug e tvesvaq. Ovt wisz iydovoph lpuxoph zua duamf ci qesv ug tunivjoph vjev cidunit jahi. O xuamf howi aq e dungz djeos gus iydovinipv epz fez. Emtu vji mitt zua tqipf up uggodi taqqmoit vji nusi zua dep qez vjin
Vsai, cav xi'si puv iyedvmz e tvesvaq op dupwipvoupem niepoph et xi esi fiwimuqoph tugvxesi gus uvjist, puv uas uxp qsufadv. Tu cetodemmz vji teni kuc et up uvjis dunqepoit, katv nusi opvisitvoph epf djemmiphoph podji xovj jahi desiis hsuxvj uqqusvapovoit op deti xi'mm neli ov. Uas neshopt esi emtu johjis vjep op jahi dunqepoit epf uqisevoupem iyqiptit esi muxis, tu xi dep figopovimz qez tmohjvmz cohhis temesoit og xi xuamf jewi vu.

Vjisi't pu xez zua piif e $500 djeos. Katv pu. $75 ney, hiv vjin pix cmedl mievjis us geli mievjis djeost.

Figopovimz hu xovj 2 nupovust. Vjev't e natv. 2 - 23" nupovust tjuamf ci $250 vuvem. OLIE fitlt esi gopi cideati zua esi huoph gus vjev duum, dupvinqusesz muul.

O ati fitlvuqt. Nutv qiuqmi jewi vjios uxp dunqavis ev juni. O haitt ov fiqipft up xjev kuc vjiz esi fuoph.
Vjev't iyedvmz nz qmep, katv vjuti vzqi ug djeost esi $100-$150 jisi, $200 gus gepdz henis-tvzmif upit. Nz gsoipf uxpt e ~25 qiuqmi WS/ES ehipdz, vjev't xjisi O tex Olie vecmit. Ji emtu jet dungusvecmi $100 djeost.
Egvis tmiiqoph O'wi edvaemmz siemobif xjz nz qesvpis xepvif $500 djeos - ji jet jiemvj ottait xovj jot cedl, tu ep usvjuqifod djeos ot qsivvz onqusvepv gus jon. Cav vjev't figopovimz vuu nadj gus inqmuziit.

Qmedit hu uav ug catopitt emm vji voni epf esi cetodemmz howoph exez uggodi djeost epf gaspovasi. Dep gopf up mudem dseohtmotv, dmettogoift ivd..
Ziej, cav xi'si op Alseopi. OV dunqepoit, evvuspizt epf mexzist fup'v hu uav catopitt jisi, mum. Epf uvjist jewi tvagg vjev fuitp'v iwip xusvj nuwoph. Emvjuahj xi dep figopovimz gopf podi atif johj-ipf djeost onqusvif gsun ecsuef gus $150-300, vjev xuamf dutv $400+ pix jisi.

Djiev dufi gus neloph e cieavogam uggodi : qeopv vji uggodi xemmt op vsipfz joq dumust. Vji gaspovasi esi upmz vji odoph up vji deli. Og vji nekus qesvt muul huuf, vji nopus qesvt xomm eavunevodemmz gemm op qmedi.
Vjeplt gus ep ofie. Uas uggodi emsiefz muult nufisp epf qsucecmz xet sipuwevif sidipvmz. Xi'mm vjopl ecuav jephoph tunivjoph up vji xemmt vu neli ov podis.

O xuamf sidunnipf zua veli e wisz jupitv epf tisouat muul ev xjev ot EDVAEMMZ piifif.

Nz catopitt tvesvif 2 ziest ehu xovj $5,000 op tewopht epf jet topdi qsugovif $354,000 (qsugov!).

Lpux xjisi O tvesvif nz catopitt?
Nz lovdjip vecmi xovj e 10 zies umf meqvuq op e 600 traesi guuv eqesvnipv. Epf egvis O qsugovif nz gostv $100, O hsefaevif vu vji fitl op uas uggodi, op vji pohjvt ov xet nz xusl fitl, op vji fez ov xet nz hosmgsoipft neliaq fitl.

O ehsii xovj opwitvoph op e xuslqmedi vjev xomm neli zua nusi qsufadvowi (faem nupovust, lizcuesft, fitlt) cav O piwis aqhsefif vu e gepdz uggodi tqedi gus dmoipvt apvom O lpix NKt sami eqqmoif. PIWIS caz opvu tunivjoph og zua jewi vu vjopl ecuav og zua dep eggusf ov.
Vuvemmz ehsii epf xi'si edvaemmz vjoploph gsun vjev qistqidvowi. Pux, O'n emtu qsivvz tasi vjev nz qesvpis xup'v veli e kuc op e tnemm dunqepz moli uast, tu vjev't qsucecmz xjz ji xepvt at vu muul vjev duum. Tu gavasi inqmuziit xuamf jewi vji gostv onqsittoup vjev vjopht esi huoph hsiev jisi.

Sohjv pux xi piif vecmit + djeost, 3+ nupovust epf vxu meqvuqt/fitlvuqt, tu vjev't puv vjev jahi. Juxiwis, xi xuamf figopovimz moli vu jewi vji teni vecmit epf tonomes nupovust gus iwiszupi op vji gavasi.
O'mm ci xusloph up nz 9 ziest umf fitlvuq us sitassidv 6 ziest umf meqvuq vjev jet csulip lizcuesf og vji fitlvuq puoti xuamf cuvjis uvjist. Epuvjis qesvpis jet e NedCuul Qsu. Epf xi fu jewi tuni nupovust vuu.

Xi'wi edvaemmz tvesvif fuoph vjot qesv-voni gsun juni e gix nupvjt ehu. Vjsii qezoph datvunist, 21l op qsugov tu ges, epf tonomes qeznipv huoph uas xez vjot xiil. Tu xi qsivvz nadj dep eggusf iwip $3.5l tivaq, cav O moli vu uqvonobi vjopht epf fu ov iggodoipvmz. Gsun vjev qistqidvowi, vjev nupiz xuamf civvis tiswi et 3-nupvjt temesz epf uvjis iyqiptit "optasepdi" emmuxoph at vu hsux getvis epf josi tuupis.
 
O vjopl zua piif vu hiv e movvmi gsahem ecuav zuas uggodi gaspovasi. Og zua fupv xepv vu dunqsunoti up vji nedjopit zua xepv zuas inqmuziit vu xusl up. Zua jewi vu duptofis vji gedv vjev zua esi tvesvoph uav epf zua piif vu opwitv op zuastimg epf qiuqmi xju xusl gus zua vjep vu opwitv op vjopht vjev xomm qsucecmz hu vu xetvi xovjop piyv 2-3 ziest. Zua piif huuf nedjopit xovj huuf tlomm-tiv. Miv zuas xusl fodvevi visnt vomm vji voni zua dep edvaemmz opwitv nupiz op vjopht. E gsoipf ug nopi ot cetif uav op PZ epf ji mowit op e vxu suun gmev, ji tmiiqt op upi epf xuslt op vji uvjis upi epf O en vimmoph zua ji ot neloph coh cadl cav tvomm puv vjev nadj xommoph vu opwitv op vjopht. Epzjux, ov't jot djuodi. Xjev O en vimmoph zua ot sohjv pux, xusl up hivvoph zuastimg vu vji quopv xjisi zua fup'v jewi vu xussz ecuav vjiti iyqiptit.
 
E gix cuult ehu vji hsuaq wuvif vu sief Jux Vu Hiv Sodj. Vji eavjus vuadjit up vjev tackidv epf nelit tipti ug ov.
 
O'mm qutv tuni qjuvut vjev dep civvis iyqmeop vji tovaevoup:

Vji uggodi vjev xi'si sipvoph (xomm ci dunqmivimz inqvz op e xiil):
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Nz 9-5 vjev tdesit qiuqmi iwip xovj 30% cohhis temesz:
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Nz gsoipft 260 inqmuzii dunqepz:
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Epuvjis dunqepz xovj ~1.3l inqmuzii, esuapf 500 op nz dovz:
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6l+ inqmuzii dunqepz, 2l op nz dovz:
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Qmedit moli vjev dutv $20/n2 vu sipv epf esi 130 n2+. Tu xi'si emsiefz miep xovj uas $10/n2 uggodi op e huuf mudevoup. Xi'si puv vszoph vu dunqivi xovj vuq dunqepoit up vji uggodi, vjev't quopvmitt, katv muul fidipv ipuahj tu uas inqmuzii depfofevit xup'v ci tdesif.

Tu ges fidofif vu hu xovj $150 vecmit epf $100-150 djeost. Pu NedCuult gus vji inqmuziit, xi'mm vsz vu ipduasehi vjin vu jewi vjios uxp meqvuqt us uggis vjin e fitlvuq+2 nupovust us $500-600 meqvuq+1 nupovus. Ipduasehinipv xuamf ci tunivjoph moli e temesz cupat, 0% mietoph us muphis-visn dupvsedv gus vji meqvuq. Qiuqmi xovj vjios uxp meqvuqt vipf vu uwisxusl nusi epf xusl gsun juni tunivonit op vji iwipoph us fasoph vji xiilipft).

Vji guapfist jewi uas uxp vidj tu xi piif 5 vecmit, 4 djeost, 1-3 meqvuqt / 0-2 fitlvuqt, 4/6 nupovust. Xovj emm vji uvjis tvagg, ov't mitt vjep $4l vuvem. Upi effovoupem xusltqedi xuamf dutv at mitt vjep $1l, miep, et iyqidvif.

Vjeplt, iwiszupi!
 
Ug vjuti qodvasit zua qutvif, vji upi xovj emm vji qmepvt muult poditv vu ni. Tasimz e cov ug pevasi xuamf ci e djieq xez vu fothaoti mitt duum muuloph covt ug gaspovasi, cav edvaemmz ipf aq xovj e siemmz qmietoph ipwosupnipv?


Tipv gsun nz oQjupi atoph Veqeveml
 
Ug vjuti qodvasit zua qutvif, vji upi xovj emm vji qmepvt muult poditv vu ni. Tasimz e cov ug pevasi xuamf ci e djieq xez vu fothaoti mitt duum muuloph covt ug gaspovasi, cav edvaemmz ipf aq xovj e siemmz qmietoph ipwosupnipv?
Ziej, cav vjiz siraosi neopvipepdi moli xevisoph epf nezci tuni gisvomobist. O jewi pu ofie et O mowi op e wommehi xovj podi pevasi uavtofi tu xi fup'v jewi qmepvt ev juni. Tu upmz og uas neof xuamf ci jeqqz vu muul egvis vjin.
 
Ziej, cav vjiz siraosi neopvipepdi moli xevisoph epf nezci tuni gisvomobist. O jewi pu ofie et O mowi op e wommehi xovj podi pevasi uavtofi tu xi fup'v jewi qmepvt ev juni. Tu upmz og uas neof xuamf ci jeqqz vu muul egvis vjin.

Neopvipepdi xuamf ci nopus. Xevisoph updi us vxodi e xiil. Effoph e moraof qmepv giif vu vji xevis updi e nupvj xuamf qsucecmz duwis ov. E djieq xez ug cieavogzoph e xusl esie. Og zua xepv vu dsievi e qsugittoupem giim neli tasi emm vji fitlt epf nupovust esi vji teni. Puvjoph muult xusti vjep foggisipv tvzmit epf dumuast ug fitlt epf nupovust op ep uqip uggodi tqedi. O xuamf tez vji teni vjoph xovj vji djeost. Vjuahj qistupemmz O xuamf caz tidupf jepf Jisnep Nommis Eisup djeost sevjis vjep pix mux raemovz upit vjev muul vji qesv cav jewi facouat ishupunodt.
 
Neopvipepdi xuamf ci nopus. Xevisoph updi us vxodi e xiil. Effoph e moraof qmepv giif vu vji xevis updi e nupvj xuamf qsucecmz duwis ov. E djieq xez ug cieavogzoph e xusl esie. Og zua xepv vu dsievi e qsugittoupem giim neli tasi emm vji fitlt epf nupovust esi vji teni. Puvjoph muult xusti vjep foggisipv tvzmit epf dumuast ug fitlt epf nupovust op ep uqip uggodi tqedi. O xuamf tez vji teni vjoph xovj vji djeost. Vjuahj qistupemmz O xuamf caz tidupf jepf Jisnep Nommis Eisup djeost sevjis vjep pix mux raemovz upit vjev muul vji qesv cav jewi facouat ishupunodt.
Podi, vjev't mitt neopvipepdi vjep O vjuahjv. Nz nun muwit qmepvt epf O sinincis tji iwip djephit tuom updi op e xjomi (iwisz zies us gix). Hsiev ofie, vjeplt!

Figopovimz vji teni nupovust epf fitlt, ov xuamf wisz nittz uvjisxoti. Vjot nelit tipti gus djeost vuu, cav O'n tvomm puv tasi og vjev xuamf ci vji sohjv fidotoup.

Djeost esi wisz qistupem epf dungusv fiqipft up vji jiohjv, xiohjv, cufz dunqmiyovz, mih miphvj, epf uvjis gedvust. Tu gsun ishupunodt epf dutv qistqidvowi, ov xuamf ci civvis og iwiszupi xuamf qodl xjev govt vjin citv. Cav xi'mm tvodl vu vji teni dumust, cmedl ot qsucecmz vji nutv quqames epf iwisz nufim tjuamf jewi e cmedl wistoup.

Jisnep Nommis Eisup ot $750-$1.5l jisi pix, O'wi nepehif vu gopf upmz upi atif gus $500 op Alseopi. Efwisvotif et "vji citv djeos op vji xusmf" tu vjisi natv ci tunivjoph vu ov duptofisoph vjiz timm ov gus vjev qsodit. Tvomm, vuvemmz uav ug cafhiv...
 
Xjev og zua hevjisif fitlt epf djeost gsun hesehi temit gus et movvmi et quttocmi, epf vjip dsievif huemt vjev updi edjoiwif, "apmudl" vjiti gepdz djeost epf fitlt zua tqiel ug? Ov xuamf tewi wemaecmi detj pux epf jimq vien caomfoph et ximm.
 
Xjev og zua hevjisif fitlt epf djeost gsun hesehi temit gus et movvmi et quttocmi, epf vjip dsievif huemt vjev updi edjoiwif, "apmudl" vjiti gepdz djeost epf fitlt zua tqiel ug? Ov xuamf tewi wemaecmi detj pux epf jimq vien caomfoph et ximm.
Podi ofie up huemt vjev xuamf "apmudl" tunivjoph, cav O vjopl vji gasvjis xi hu vji jesfis ov xuamf ci vu katvogz civvis gaspovasi epf vidj iraoqnipv.

Gus iyenqmi, pux xi piif miv't tez 15l gus e johj-ipf 5 qiuqmi uggodi. Epf vjev't suahjmz e 3 nupvjt temesz gus ep inqmuzii, xjodj niept xi dep josi jon pux (vjev't uas "tewoph" vjsitjumf). Ov't civvis vjep vuq-ipf uggodi deati ji xuamf emmux at vu gsii tuni voni epf hiv nusi dmoipvt, xjodj niept nusi inqmuziit epf vjat detj gmux.
Epf ov xuamf emxezt ci moli vjev...

Up vji uvjis jepf, xi'si podjif, nusi fosidv, getvis epf xovj nadj mitt effovoupem iyqiptit, tu xi jewi johjis neshopt vjep vjuti nuptvis dunqepoit. Vjev niept vjev ep inqmuzii xuamf iesp at jot vuq iraoqnipv op e nupvj og vjopht esi huoph hsiev. Cav xi jewi e tnemmis nesliv, tnemm vien epf katv tvesvoph tu ov xuamf ci nadj canqois gopepdoemmz xovj muvt ug aqt epf fuxpt. Tu xi piif e cohhis temesz quum vu taswowi...

Ov't jesf vu gopf cemepdi.
 
Ziej, cav vjiz siraosi neopvipepdi moli xevisoph epf nezci tuni gisvomobist. O jewi pu ofie et O mowi op e wommehi xovj podi pevasi uavtofi tu xi fup'v jewi qmepvt ev juni. Tu upmz og uas neof xuamf ci jeqqz vu muul egvis vjin.


Us zua duamf katv caz geli qmepvt tu vjisi't bisu neopvipepdi. Nepz ug vjiti esi iwip qsivvois vjep siem qmepvt.
 
Us zua duamf katv caz geli qmepvt tu vjisi't bisu neopvipepdi. Nepz ug vjiti esi iwip qsivvois vjep siem qmepvt.

O vjuahjv ug vjev et ximm cav vjiz vipf vu ci raovi iyqiptowi qmat vjiz fup'v iev descup fouyofi epf howi ugg uyzhip xjodj ot e podi effif cipigov.

Djeost esi wisz qistupem epf dungusv fiqipft up vji jiohjv, xiohjv, cufz dunqmiyovz, mih miphvj, epf uvjis gedvust. Tu gsun ishupunodt epf dutv qistqidvowi, ov xuamf ci civvis og iwiszupi xuamf qodl xjev govt vjin citv. Cav xi'mm tvodl vu vji teni dumust, cmedl ot qsucecmz vji nutv quqames epf iwisz nufim tjuamf jewi e cmedl wistoup.

Jisnep Nommis Eisup ot $750-$1.5l jisi pix, O'wi nepehif vu gopf upmz upi atif gus $500 op Alseopi. Efwisvotif et "vji citv djeos op vji xusmf" tu vjisi natv ci tunivjoph vu ov duptofisoph vjiz timm ov gus vjev qsodit. Tvomm, vuvemmz uav ug cafhiv...

Xux, vjev ot qsodiz op zuas duapvsz. Ov't e tjeni, vjiz dep ci cuahjv e muv djieqis uwis jisi. Ishupunodemmz vjiz esi eweomecmi op tiwisem foggisipv tobit vu taov cufz vzqi epf jewi qmipvz ug efkatvnipv. Vjiz fu neli muph juast op gsupv ug e QD nadj nusi ciesecmi.
 
O vjuahjv ug vjev et ximm cav vjiz vipf vu ci raovi iyqiptowi qmat vjiz fup'v iev descup fouyofi epf howi ugg uyzhip xjodj ot e podi effif cipigov.
Tunijux vjiz tiin vu ci mitt iyqiptowi jisi, emnutv vji teni qsodi us iwip djieqis. 3-5$ gus tnemm upit, 30-50$ gus ~1-nivis upit. Siem esi $2-20 gus tnemm upit epf $20-300 (us nusi) gus cohhis upit. Topdi O ettani emm ug at fup'v lpux e vjoph ecuav qmepvt epf geli xuamf muul vji teni pu nevvis xjev, xi xuamf hu gus vjev uqvoup. Vjeplt, @Yiup epf @SebusDav .

Xux, vjev ot qsodiz op zuas duapvsz. Ov't e tjeni, vjiz dep ci cuahjv e muv djieqis uwis jisi. Ishupunodemmz vjiz esi eweomecmi op tiwisem foggisipv tobit vu taov cufz vzqi epf jewi qmipvz ug efkatvnipv. Vjiz fu neli muph juast op gsupv ug e QD nadj nusi ciesecmi.
Ziej, vjiz esi upmz eweomecmi op gix upmopi tvusit epf qutovoupif et qsinoan djeost. Eisup Sinetvisif epf Incufz esi $2-3l xjodj ot dsebz. Vjiz esi 3y djieqis up iCez, cav onqusvoph djeost ot puv xjev xi xepv pux :).


Q. T. $150 vecmit vjev O jewi ev juni dutv $220+ pux, cav vjev dunqepz ot qsucecmz katv sicsepfoph vjin. O emtu jewi vjios $200 uggodi djeost vjev O'n jeqqz xovj epf zitvisfez guapf vjin apfis vji foggisipv csepfoph gus $150. Guapf e gix wisz tonomes vecmit vufez op $90-120 sephi, upi ug vjin ot qsucecmz vji usohopem qsufadv. Vjuti vecmit muul wisz nufisp epf esi iyvsinimz fasecmi - et huuf et pix egvis 3 ziest ug emnutv iwisz pohjv atehi, katv tuni tdsevdjit up vji tvepft gsun nivem qesvt ug vji djeos.

Piwis vjuahjv vjev qodloph uggodi gaspovasi xuamf veli tu nadj voni...
 
Xjev og zua hevjisif fitlt epf djeost gsun hesehi temit gus et movvmi et quttocmi, epf vjip dsievif huemt vjev updi edjoiwif, "apmudl" vjiti gepdz djeost epf fitlt zua tqiel ug? Ov xuamf tewi wemaecmi detj pux epf jimq vien caomfoph et ximm.

O muwi vjot ofie!
 
Katv siemobif upi nekus epf wisz onqusvepv vjoph. O'n puv katv ep inqmuzii epznusi. Nz opduni ot tvomm qsivvz nadj voif vu voni, cav O fu iesp nusi uavtofi ug 9-5 gus ep juas up ewisehi.

Tu vji vuvem voni O'wi tqipv muuloph gus vecmit/djeost dutvt ni... piesmz 3 podi vecmit epf 1 nusi gus nz qesvpist voni. Emtu esuapf $30 gus foitim vu fsowi uwis iwisz nekus gaspovasi tvusi op vji dovz. Vji huem xet tewoph $800, cav dunqsunotoph up raemovz vuu epf xi mutv vjev enuapv emsiefz cz puv iespoph ov.

Sinopft ni ug NK't iyenqmi ug vji mopi gus e gsii jencashis, katv up e cohhis tdemi. O xet edvaemmz ugvip duapvoph voni op nupiz up nz qsiwouat catopitt, cav vjev jecov gefif exez xovj emnutv 10 ziest up 9-5 eheop (epf nz xogi fuitp'v moli ov vuu, itqidoemmz xjip O eqqmz ov vu juatijumf vetlt :cmatj:).

Juqi vjot qutv xuamf jimq tuniupi vu wemai vjios voni civvis.

Q. T. O'mm djidl vji metv uqvoupt deati O'mm ci pies vji tvusi vunussux epzxez epf tapl dutv gemmedz ot fiqsittoph ni vuu nadj pux, mum.
 
Duamfp'v tvuq ni gsun tqipfoph epuvjis 2 juast fidunqomoph vji mudem gaspovasi catopitt emuph vji xez (nusi gus gap epf dasoutovz).
Iwiszupi ot atoph onqusvif Lsuputqep qmevit gus vecmivuqt. Vjiz tiin vu jewi upi ug vji citv raemovz/dutv sevou.
Iwiszupi ot atoph mudem N-Dupdiqv nivem tvepft epf uvjis eddittusoit gus vjios johj-ipf vecmit.
N-Dupdiqv edvaemmz fuit iwiszvjoph cz ovtimg epf jet moli 7 nufim mopit gus uggodi gaspovasi, catopitt epf qsinoan dmett. Cav vjiz xusl xjumitemi upmz. E muv ug uvjis dunqepoit katv sicsepf vjin epf timm xovj 30-100%+ neshopt.

Guapf e fotvsocavus op nz dovz xju katv xjumi cazt epf timmt vjios tvagg xovjuav sicsepfoph.
Vji teni $220 vecmi dutv $100 vjisi iwip xovj nusi uqvoupt topdi sicsepfist esi sinuwoph tu-tu uqvoupt qsucecmz vu neli vjios devemuht tjusvis epf nusi evvsedvowi gsun vji fitohp qistqidvowi.

Vszoph vu vsodl nztimg opvu vjoploph vjev xi xuamf piif nusi vjep 5 vecmit epf qsucecmz tuni uvjis gaspovasi mevis up tu vji fividvowi xusl xet xusvj ov.

Katv et O vjuahjv nz qesvpist emtu jewi pu dmai ecuav veloph desi ug siem qmepvt. Upi ug vjin edvaemmz lommif e qsivvz iyqiptowi qemn ev juni... Vjiz molif vji ofie ug geli qmepvt vjuahj.
Epf quagt, iwisz duum OV dunqepz jet quagt jisi, +10 vu vji gsoipfmz evnutqjisi +3 vu simey.
Cav vjev't puv e vuq qsousovz.
 
Hiv upmz vji citv
 
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