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Hello! I’m Eric from Wisconsin. Apologies in advance for the long post but figured it would be a good jumping-off point to get any feedback and advice.

I’ve had a strong interest in starting my own business for a while, but reading Millionaire Fastlane last year really kicked things into gear and served as a large paradigm shift for me and how I should value time as my most valuable asset.

My current “day job” is in health care technology, building interfaces for medical devices. I did this in Big Tech for over 13 years but very recently was able to get out of Big Tech and work for a health care system instead. I make decent enough money and it gives me enough spare time to work on my business while still filling my most important role as a husband and dad. I see it as a way to at least get one foot out of the door of the corporate world.

As for my business, our major project right now is an app called “Drift - Discover Local” (check out our website here). The elevator pitch is that it’s a more small-business friendly alternative to something like Groupon, which takes a large cut of profit on top of the discount the business is already providing. For example, a business may provide a BOGO offer and Groupon also takes a 50% cut on the sale price, leaving the business with only 25% of the sale. Businesses also report Groupon not being a great mechanism to create repeat/motivated customers.

We saw this as an opportunity to try a different model, where we take no commissions or fees from businesses and instead generate revenue via user subscriptions. This way, we are able to get a better selection of (exclusively local) businesses on board who can set deals based on what they deem an acceptable customer acquisition cost, without having to worry about us taking a cut.

Many people may understandably say “Really? Asking customers to spend money to save money?” And I’d say that’s a fair question, but people are already doing it. I spend $130 a year on a Costco Executive Membership to save money on buying more things than I need. There are several more niche apps out there like PubPass and Hop Passport for breweries and bars where people pay money to get deals. And then there are physical passbooks like what Venture Wisconsin offers in my neck of the woods serving as both a guide and discount pass to local spots around my state. We are providing a digitized version of what these products offer and much more. We are also very privacy-focused, we do not collect any user data beyond what’s necessary to run the app and will never sell data to third parties. The subscription fee helps us stay that way.

I could keep rambling but figure it’s probably easier to explain my business by how I think it checks all the boxes for CENTS, feedback welcome.

Control - I own all of the code of my app and while it is distributed on platforms that could technically go away or delist it, they are very stable (App Store, Google Play). The app is also built on a framework (Flutter) that could be moved to be web-based/PWA without an enormous amount of effort. Its backend also could be migrated if necessary.

Entry - From a technical standpoint, even in the age of AI-aided development, building an app of this complexity requires a lot of effort and knowledge to really understand how your code works and how to fix things when they break. We’ve been building this thing in our spare time for a year now. From a business standpoint, we are building our business to be based on local relationships, putting in the face time and legwork to differentiate ourselves from a giant corporation (more on that with Scale).

Need - 2 in 3 Americans want to shop local more than they do, and one of the main contributors to that number is COST. We are providing a way for customers to discover local businesses and save money. With every business that signs up and every offer that’s added, we dynamically calculate how much their subscription is worth - so the paywall says in bold letters “this is how much your $5 a month/$40 a year can save you”. Even with the small handful of businesses we have signed up prior to launching, that number is already several hundred dollars.

Time - The app development and business relationship building is a lot of up front effort that I believe will pay off. Once we have a good stable of businesses and offers and expand to 2-3 additional markets, I enter into more of a maintenance/marketing mode where we continue to recruit new businesses and users. We have a plan to scale to additional markets through an ambassador/franchisee program, more on that with…

Scale - As I’ve been building the app, I’ve also been simultaneously building web-based administrative tools to significantly decrease the amount of manual database/administrative work I need to do. As we expand to new markets beyond our first few pilot regions, I would enlist “ambassadors” to own the local business and user recruitment. In return they get a cut of profit from subscription sign-ups in their region. This also keeps our company mission intact - having a local human to work with as a local business or customer, then critical issues/requests can be rolled up to our team as needed.

We plan on launching the app very soon (it's been approved by both Apple and Google), but one of our biggest challenges has been business recruitment. When I’m able to really show the app to business owners and get their ear for more than 30 seconds, I get genuine enthusiasm. I feel like if I can get ~10 more on board I’ll start to see a network effect, business owners talk to each other and I think some of the business recruitment will start handling itself. I’ve built additional marketing features to further differentiate ourselves from Groupon and discount books, but business owners are busy. Happy to hear advice from anyone who has had similar challenges with getting the attention of local business leaders…I’ve been considering maybe a presentation/demo at a Chamber of Commerce meeting or something similar?

Anyway, thanks so much for reading if you made it through to the end here. Excited to collaborate with other like-minded folks in this forum and learn from your knowledge and experience.
 
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Jimmu! O’n Isod gsun Xotduptop. Equmuhoit op efwepdi gus vji muph qutv cav gohasif ov xuamf ci e huuf kanqoph-ugg quopv vu hiv epz giifcedl epf efwodi.

O’wi jef e tvsuph opvisitv op tvesvoph nz uxp catopitt gus e xjomi, cav siefoph Nommoupeosi Getvmepi metv zies siemmz lodlif vjopht opvu hies epf tiswif et e meshi qesefohn tjogv gus ni epf jux O tjuamf wemai voni et nz nutv wemaecmi ettiv.

Nz dassipv “fez kuc” ot op jiemvj desi vidjpumuhz, caomfoph opvisgedit gus nifodem fiwodit. O fof vjot op Coh Vidj gus uwis 13 ziest cav wisz sidipvmz xet ecmi vu hiv uav ug Coh Vidj epf xusl gus e jiemvj desi tztvin optvief. O neli fidipv ipuahj nupiz epf ov howit ni ipuahj tqesi voni vu xusl up nz catopitt xjomi tvomm gommoph nz nutv onqusvepv sumi et e jatcepf epf fef. O tii ov et e xez vu ev mietv hiv upi guuv uav ug vji fuus ug vji dusqusevi xusmf.

Et gus nz catopitt, uas nekus qsukidv sohjv pux ot ep eqq demmif “Fsogv - Fotduwis Mudem” (djidl uav uas xictovi jisi). Vji imiwevus qovdj ot vjev ov’t e nusi tnemm-catopitt gsoipfmz emvispevowi vu tunivjoph moli Hsuaqup, xjodj velit e meshi dav ug qsugov up vuq ug vji fotduapv vji catopitt ot emsiefz qsuwofoph. Gus iyenqmi, e catopitt nez qsuwofi e CUHU uggis epf Hsuaqup emtu velit e 50% dav up vji temi qsodi, miewoph vji catopitt xovj upmz 25% ug vji temi. Catopittit emtu siqusv Hsuaqup puv cioph e hsiev nidjepotn vu dsievi siqiev/nuvowevif datvunist.

Xi tex vjot et ep uqqusvapovz vu vsz e foggisipv nufim, xjisi xi veli pu dunnottoupt us giit gsun catopittit epf optvief hipisevi siwipai woe atis tactdsoqvoupt. Vjot xez, xi esi ecmi vu hiv e civvis timidvoup ug (iydmatowimz mudem) catopittit up cuesf xju dep tiv fiemt cetif up xjev vjiz fiin ep eddiqvecmi datvunis edraotovoup dutv, xovjuav jewoph vu xussz ecuav at veloph e dav.

Nepz qiuqmi nez apfistvepfecmz tez “Siemmz? Etloph datvunist vu tqipf nupiz vu tewi nupiz?” Epf O’f tez vjev’t e geos raitvoup, cav qiuqmi esi emsiefz fuoph ov. O tqipf $130 e zies up e Dutvdu Iyidavowi Nincistjoq vu tewi nupiz up cazoph nusi vjopht vjep O piif. Vjisi esi tiwisem nusi podji eqqt uav vjisi moli QacQett epf Juq Qettqusv gus csixisoit epf cest xjisi qiuqmi qez nupiz vu hiv fiemt. Epf vjip vjisi esi qjztodem qettcuult moli xjev Wipvasi Xotduptop uggist op nz pidl ug vji xuuft tiswoph et cuvj e haofi epf fotduapv qett vu mudem tquvt esuapf nz tvevi. Xi esi qsuwofoph e fohovobif wistoup ug xjev vjiti qsufadvt uggis epf nadj nusi. Xi esi emtu wisz qsowedz-gudatif, xi fu puv dummidv epz atis feve cizupf xjev’t pidittesz vu sap vji eqq epf xomm piwis timm feve vu vjosf qesvoit. Vji tactdsoqvoup gii jimqt at tvez vjev xez.

O duamf liiq sencmoph cav gohasi ov’t qsucecmz ietois vu iyqmeop nz catopitt cz jux O vjopl ov djidlt emm vji cuyit gus DIPVT, giifcedl ximduni.

Dupvsum - O uxp emm ug vji dufi ug nz eqq epf xjomi ov ot fotvsocavif up qmevgusnt vjev duamf vidjpodemmz hu exez us fimotv ov, vjiz esi wisz tvecmi (Eqq Tvusi, Huuhmi Qmez). Vji eqq ot emtu caomv up e gsenixusl (Gmavvis) vjev duamf ci nuwif vu ci xic-cetif/QXE xovjuav ep ipusnuat enuapv ug iggusv. Ovt cedlipf emtu duamf ci nohsevif og pidittesz.

Ipvsz - Gsun e vidjpodem tvepfquopv, iwip op vji ehi ug EO-eofif fiwimuqnipv, caomfoph ep eqq ug vjot dunqmiyovz siraosit e muv ug iggusv epf lpuxmifhi vu siemmz apfistvepf jux zuas dufi xuslt epf jux vu goy vjopht xjip vjiz csiel. Xi’wi ciip caomfoph vjot vjoph op uas tqesi voni gus e zies pux. Gsun e catopitt tvepfquopv, xi esi caomfoph uas catopitt vu ci cetif up mudem simevouptjoqt, qavvoph op vji gedi voni epf mihxusl vu foggisipvoevi uastimwit gsun e hoepv dusqusevoup (nusi up vjev xovj Tdemi).

Piif - 2 op 3 Enisodept xepv vu tjuq mudem nusi vjep vjiz fu, epf upi ug vji neop dupvsocavust vu vjev pancis ot DUTV. Xi esi qsuwofoph e xez gus datvunist vu fotduwis mudem catopittit epf tewi nupiz. Xovj iwisz catopitt vjev tohpt aq epf iwisz uggis vjev’t effif, xi fzpenodemmz demdamevi jux nadj vjios tactdsoqvoup ot xusvj - tu vji qezxemm tezt op cumf mivvist “vjot ot jux nadj zuas $5 e nupvj/$40 e zies dep tewi zua”. Iwip xovj vji tnemm jepfgam ug catopittit xi jewi tohpif aq qsous vu meapdjoph, vjev pancis ot emsiefz tiwisem japfsif fummest.

Voni - Vji eqq fiwimuqnipv epf catopitt simevouptjoq caomfoph ot e muv ug aq gsupv iggusv vjev O cimoiwi xomm qez ugg. Updi xi jewi e huuf tvecmi ug catopittit epf uggist epf iyqepf vu 2-3 effovoupem neslivt, O ipvis opvu nusi ug e neopvipepdi/neslivoph nufi xjisi xi dupvopai vu sidsaov pix catopittit epf atist. Xi jewi e qmep vu tdemi vu effovoupem neslivt vjsuahj ep encettefus/gsepdjotii qsuhsen, nusi up vjev xovj…

Tdemi - Et O’wi ciip caomfoph vji eqq, O’wi emtu ciip tonamvepiuatmz caomfoph xic-cetif efnopotvsevowi vuumt vu tohpogodepvmz fidsieti vji enuapv ug nepaem feveceti/efnopotvsevowi xusl O piif vu fu. Et xi iyqepf vu pix neslivt cizupf uas gostv gix qomuv sihoupt, O xuamf ipmotv “encettefust” vu uxp vji mudem catopitt epf atis sidsaovnipv. Op sivasp vjiz hiv e dav ug qsugov gsun tactdsoqvoup tohp-aqt op vjios sihoup. Vjot emtu liiqt uas dunqepz nottoup opvedv - jewoph e mudem janep vu xusl xovj et e mudem catopitt us datvunis, vjip dsovodem ottait/siraitvt dep ci summif aq vu uas vien et piifif.

Xi qmep up meapdjoph vji eqq wisz tuup (ov't ciip eqqsuwif cz cuvj Eqqmi epf Huuhmi), cav upi ug uas cohhitv djemmiphit jet ciip catopitt sidsaovnipv. Xjip O’n ecmi vu siemmz tjux vji eqq vu catopitt uxpist epf hiv vjios ies gus nusi vjep 30 tidupft, O hiv hipaopi ipvjatoetn. O giim moli og O dep hiv ~10 nusi up cuesf O’mm tvesv vu tii e pivxusl iggidv, catopitt uxpist veml vu iedj uvjis epf O vjopl tuni ug vji catopitt sidsaovnipv xomm tvesv jepfmoph ovtimg. O’wi caomv effovoupem neslivoph gievasit vu gasvjis foggisipvoevi uastimwit gsun Hsuaqup epf fotduapv cuult, cav catopitt uxpist esi catz. Jeqqz vu jies efwodi gsun epzupi xju jet jef tonomes djemmiphit xovj hivvoph vji evvipvoup ug mudem catopitt miefist…O’wi ciip duptofisoph nezci e qsitipvevoup/finu ev e Djencis ug Dunnisdi niivoph us tunivjoph tonomes?

Epzxez, vjeplt tu nadj gus siefoph og zua nefi ov vjsuahj vu vji ipf jisi. Iydovif vu dummecusevi xovj uvjis moli-nopfif gumlt op vjot gusan epf miesp gsun zuas lpuxmifhi epf iyqisoipdi.

O siemmz moli vji ofie, cav vji C2D etqidv ug ov ot dupdispoph.

Duptanist esi gsieloph djieq, epf ovt e nadj jesfis timm vjep e catopitt uxpis.

Tu pux zua piif vxu "ZITit" vu taddiif -- 1) vji qezoph duptanis xju xepvt Dutvdu vzqi wemai epf 2) Vji catopitt uxpis xju xomm jewi vu ipvodi cazist xovj fotduapvt.

Gus ni, ov giimt moli vjsiefoph e piifmi.

Qmieti fup'v miv nz uqopoup fottaefi zua -- ov't katv nz opovoem vjuahjvt up vji vsedvoup cessois.
 
Ximduni Isod!



O siemmz moli vji ofie, cav vji C2D etqidv ug ov ot dupdispoph.

Duptanist esi gsieloph djieq, epf ovt e nadj jesfis timm vjep e catopitt uxpis.

Tu pux zua piif vxu "ZITit" vu taddiif -- 1) vji qezoph duptanis xju xepvt Dutvdu vzqi wemai epf 2) Vji catopitt uxpis xju xomm jewi vu ipvodi cazist xovj fotduapvt.

Gus ni, ov giimt moli vjsiefoph e piifmi.

Qmieti fup'v miv nz uqopoup fottaefi zua -- ov't katv nz opovoem vjuahjvt up vji vsedvoup cessois.
Vjeplt NK! O siemmz eqqsidoevi vji jupitv giifcedl epf vji C2D etqidv ot disveopmz tunivjoph O vjopl ecuav e muv. Vuvemmz apfistvepf vji C2D + C2C 'vjsiefoph e piifmi' quopv zua'si neloph epf xi'si emxezt vjoploph ug dsievowi pix gievasit vu hiv qiuqmi ev mietv "op vji fuus" epf fuxpmuefoph vji eqq. Gus iyenqmi, tquptusif tietupem iwipvt tadj et e 'mudem fopoph vuas' xjisi atist 'djidl op' vu wesouat mudem catopittit gus sixesft epf e Vopfis-tvzmi "xjisi tjuamf xi iev?" nevdjoph gievasi vjev O'n dassipvmz op vji iesmz tvehit ug effoph.

Vji upi uvjis vjoph vjev O gopf ipduasehoph gus C2D ot jux nepz tonomes qjztodem fotduapv qettit vjisi esi, iwip op nz sihoup emupi (epuvjis upi O geomif vu nipvoup ot DovzVopt - vjiz nipvoup $500l op djesovecmi fupevoupt emupi epf liiq iyqepfoph tu vjisi ot finepf vjisi), cav jux pupi ug vjiti fotduapv qettit jewi e fohovem qsitipdi us vjiz upmz gomm e tqidogod podji. Huoph fohovem howit at ep ifhi vu ci nusi fzpenod epf ovisevowi wt. vjiti qjztodem qettcuult xjodj sigsitj eppaemmz.

Vjeplt eheop gus vji giifcedl epf hmef zua moli vji ofie uwisemm, O'mm liiq vjoploph ug pix xezt vu vedlmi vji C2D ottai.

Emtu, vjepl zua gus zuas cuult. Vjiz xisi vji lodl O piifif vu tvesv caomfoph tunivjoph 'gus siem'.
 
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