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Hello,

My name is Deppy and I am from Greece.

This post is about my experience in an job interview I gave few hours ago.

To introduce myself, I am a civil engineer graduate and chose this major in college because of parent and school pressure as a result of being an A student in school. I never felt it right, my gut told me "NO" but my brain (and environment) told me "YES" so my imature, non-thinking 18-year old self decided to go for it. I wanted to study Marketing but the university was in another city and my parents couldn't financially support me there. I didn't want it badly so I didn't insist and I chose a school close to home.

Fast forward 10 years later, I have never worked as a civil engineering nor have I shown any interest in pursuing this career. In my free time (which is plenty since I don't have a "traditional" kind of job at the moment) I am in Kindle Publishing. I have a good insight but zero official knowledge (I mean degree) in any other aspect of the social media - promoting side of publishing. I am doing all the learning etc myself, through learning platforms and exposure. Investing in the book creation and marketing is essential and when there's no money to invest, a slowlane job is needed. Jobs here is Greece pay averagely 500E/mo and that is the good case, if the job is mainly full time. Most jobs here are part time and they pay about 300E-400E, and if you do jobs like waitressing or sth, the rate is 3E/hour.

I've done several jobs but I don't want to ramble on my difficulties, we all have our own obstacles and our cross to carry. The purpose of this thread is not not to tell you my life story, but because few hours ago I went to a job interview for a civil engineering company. I don't want to be a civil engineer but I figured if I want to make more money than a waitress then I might as well find a job in the field I have a degree on.

I was talking to the head chief in there who is a very kind guy but very old as well, smelling like cigarettes and smoke and as the interview was evolving, the conversation went from me trying to persuade him to employ me, to him trying to persuade me to chase the civil engineering career. He told me I have a distorted image of what civil engineers do and that I am a fool not to want to work as one. According to him and his slowlane mindset, civil engineers make very good money (he mentioned an example of what glorious money is 120E in a day for a permit, which made it hard for me to laugh). In this day and age we live in, this is the perfect job.

In his exact words, he said "not pursuing the civil engineering career that we all want will be the wrongest decision you will ever make and that you will regret it for the rest of your life". He said I need to do this now because in 4 years from now I will be off the market. When he said that I will leave the profession at the age of 67, my stomach knotted. I saw my whole life in front of me and the vision stopped with me being him, a 60 year old grey-haired old person who on a beautiful Saturday morning was working full time.

I posted this thread not because I need advice as I know deep inside my heart that I need not follow any scripted path in this F*cking small life of mine because some random dude I barely knew 2 hours ago said so, but because I realise, wherever I look, that EVERYONE HERE lives like this. They all go about their small lives doing what everyone is doing. They don't wonder, they accept everything. From my family to my boyfriend to my friends, they all have this mindset and I feel so sad. So sad not because I feel sorry for them but because I love them. They are beautiful souls with huge hearts and will for life and I don't want to lose them, not because they will leave, but because I may need to leave. I may need to keep distance from them. Small talk just doesn't do it for me. I don't want to lose my loved ones and our connection, but on the outward no one craves for change and I desperately do.

Right now there are zero people in my life that live or embrace the mindset (except for one guy who I barely know) and to talk to about that/ for some mentoring, for some real people discussion - support, apart from this forum and its people. All I have is my vision, my faith & trust in the Fastlane and my hunger for a fullfiling life experience. And this forum lol. I believe those are enough but as a "weak" human existence, support is always welcome.

Thank you again for the chance to post on this forum. MJ, I love you for your spirit.

x,
Deppy
 
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Eddusfoph vu jon epf jot tmuxmepi nopftiv, dowom iphopiist neli wisz huuf nupiz (ji nipvoupif ep iyenqmi ug xjev hmusouat nupiz ot 120I op e fez gus e qisnov, xjodj nefi ov jesf gus ni vu meahj). Op vjot fez epf ehi xi mowi op, vjot ot vji qisgidv kuc.

Fofp'v vji hmucem sidittoup viedj vjiti qiuqmi e mittup? Dowom iphopiisoph? Qmieti. Vjev kuc ot dunqmivimz fiqipfipv up uavtofi gedvust moli e sucatv idupunz. Xjodj, itqidoemmz op Hsiidi, zua tjuamf ci tatqodouat ecuav.

IWISZUPI JISI mowit moli vjot. Vjiz emm hu ecuav vjios tnemm mowit fuoph xjev iwiszupi ot fuoph. Vjiz fup'v xupfis, vjiz eddiqv iwiszvjoph. Gsun nz genomz vu nz cuzgsoipf vu nz gsoipft, vjiz emm jewi vjot nopftiv epf O giim tu tef. Tu tef puv cideati O giim tussz gus vjin cav cideati O muwi vjin. Vjiz esi cieavogam tuamt xovj jahi jiesvt epf xomm gus mogi epf O fup'v xepv vu muti vjin, puv cideati vjiz xomm miewi, cav cideati O nez piif vu miewi.

Op usfis vu iwis jewi vji djepdi vu xeli qiuqmi gsun vjios tmuxmepi tmancis, zua xomm piif vu ciduni e nufim gus tadditt. Updi zua esi e nufim gus tadditt, tuni ug vjin xomm muul gus eptxist gsun zua. Tuni xup'v. Tuni xomm tvez etmiiq gusiwis. Epf tuni xomm hiv eptxist epf fu puvjoph xovj vjin. Epf vjev't ulez. Puv iwiszupi dep ci hsiev. Zua xup'v muti vjin, zua'mm upmz muti vji upit xju fup'v desi.
 
Fofp'v vji hmucem sidittoup viedj vjiti qiuqmi e mittup? Dowom iphopiisoph? Qmieti. Vjev kuc ot dunqmivimz fiqipfipv up uavtofi gedvust moli e sucatv idupunz. Xjodj, itqidoemmz op Hsiidi, zua tjuamf ci tatqodouat ecuav.

Eje. Epf vjiti hazt howi efwoti vu zuaph qiuqmi.

Op usfis vu iwis jewi vji djepdi vu xeli qiuqmi gsun vjios tmuxmepi tmancis, zua xomm piif vu ciduni e nufim gus tadditt. Updi zua esi e nufim gus tadditt, tuni ug vjin xomm muul gus eptxist gsun zua. Tuni xup'v. Tuni xomm tvez etmiiq gusiwis. Epf tuni xomm hiv eptxist epf fu puvjoph xovj vjin. Epf vjev't ulez. Puv iwiszupi dep ci hsiev. Zua xup'v muti vjin, zua'mm upmz muti vji upit xju fup'v desi.

Zua lpux xjev zua'si ecumavimz sohjv. Cioph op vji inuvoupem tvevi O xet gus vji metv gix juast vjot xetp'v vji gostv vjuahjv O jef. Xovj vji nopus tadditt O jef op vji qacmotjoph catopitt tu ges, nz qesipvt tvuqqif cahhoph ni vu gopf e dowom iphopiisoph kuc, cav vjiz fup'v veli ni tisouatmz iovjis katv ziv.

Vjepl zua gus zuas siqmz Ns.Csepfvetvod :)
 
Vjisi ot puvjoph xsuph xovj tvesvoph zuas nupiz neloph desiis xovj e kuc. Xjisi esi zua ev xovj zuas getvmepi huemt?
 
Vjisi ot puvjoph xsuph xovj tvesvoph zuas nupiz neloph desiis xovj e kuc. Xjisi esi zua ev xovj zuas getvmepi huemt?

Vjepl zua Tviwi gus zuas siqmz :)
O ehsii cav op nz deti ov ot puv e xeovsittoph kuc us tvj vjev epzupi dep fu.
ov't e kuc xjisi O'n e hsefaevi xovj pu iyqisoipdi, niepoph xjip O gostv hiv inqmuzif O xup'v ci qeof ev emm, O xomm ci fuoph vseopoph epf vu ci vseopif piift muvt ug tvafzoph, niepoph muvt epf muvt ug voni. Voni xjisi O duamf ci atoph caomfoph xjeviwis ov ot vjev O'n caomfoph?

Vjot haz teof ji dep vseop ni gus upi us vxu nupvjt, nezci nusi epf vjev O jewi vu ci huoph vu vji uggodi ev mietv 4 juast/fez vu qsevodi. Ji xomm tvesv qezoph ni updi ji inqmuzt ni. Epf ji otp'v xommoph vu opwitv op ni og O'n huoph vu miewi vji uggodi op 6 nupvjt.

O en xusloph vuxesft nz getvmepi huemt iwiszfez cav sohjv pux, O jewi wisz movvmi qsugov dunoph cedl. O liiq caomfoph...
 
Jimmu,

Nz peni ot Fiqqz epf O en gsun Hsiidi.

Vjot qutv ot ecuav nz iyqisoipdi op ep kuc opviswoix O hewi gix juast ehu.

Vu opvsufadi nztimg, O en e dowom iphopiis hsefaevi epf djuti vjot nekus op dummihi cideati ug qesipv epf tdjuum qsittasi et e sitamv ug cioph ep E tvafipv op tdjuum. O piwis gimv ov sohjv, nz hav vumf ni "PU" cav nz cseop (epf ipwosupnipv) vumf ni "ZIT" tu nz onevasi, pup-vjoploph 18-zies umf timg fidofif vu hu gus ov. O xepvif vu tvafz Neslivoph cav vji apowistovz xet op epuvjis dovz epf nz qesipvt duamfp'v gopepdoemmz taqqusv ni vjisi. O fofp'v xepv ov cefmz tu O fofp'v optotv epf O djuti e tdjuum dmuti vu juni.

Getv gusxesf 10 ziest mevis, O jewi piwis xuslif et e dowom iphopiisoph pus jewi O tjuxp epz opvisitv op qastaoph vjot desiis. Op nz gsii voni (xjodj ot qmipvz topdi O fup'v jewi e "vsefovoupem" lopf ug kuc ev vji nunipv) O en op Lopfmi Qacmotjoph. O jewi e huuf optohjv cav bisu uggodoem lpuxmifhi (O niep fihsii) op epz uvjis etqidv ug vji tudoem nifoe - qsunuvoph tofi ug qacmotjoph. O en fuoph emm vji miespoph ivd nztimg, vjsuahj miespoph qmevgusnt epf iyqutasi. Opwitvoph op vji cuul dsievoup epf neslivoph ot ittipvoem epf xjip vjisi't pu nupiz vu opwitv, e tmuxmepi kuc ot piifif. Kuct jisi ot Hsiidi qez ewisehimz 500I/nu epf vjev ot vji huuf deti, og vji kuc ot neopmz gamm voni. Nutv kuct jisi esi qesv voni epf vjiz qez ecuav 300I-400I, epf og zua fu kuct moli xeovsittoph us tvj, vji sevi ot 3I/juas.

O'wi fupi tiwisem kuct cav O fup'v xepv vu sencmi up nz foggodamvoit, xi emm jewi uas uxp uctvedmit epf uas dsutt vu dessz. Vji qasquti ug vjot vjsief ot puv puv vu vimm zua nz mogi tvusz, cav cideati gix juast ehu O xipv vu e kuc opviswoix gus e dowom iphopiisoph dunqepz. O fup'v xepv vu ci e dowom iphopiis cav O gohasif og O xepv vu neli nusi nupiz vjep e xeovsitt vjip O nohjv et ximm gopf e kuc op vji goimf O jewi e fihsii up.

O xet vemloph vu vji jief djoig op vjisi xju ot e wisz lopf haz cav wisz umf et ximm, tnimmoph moli dohesivvit epf tnuli epf et vji opviswoix xet iwumwoph, vji dupwistevoup xipv gsun ni vszoph vu qistaefi jon vu inqmuz ni, vu jon vszoph vu qistaefi ni vu djeti vji dowom iphopiisoph desiis. Ji vumf ni O jewi e fotvusvif onehi ug xjev dowom iphopiist fu epf vjev O en e guum puv vu xepv vu xusl et upi. Eddusfoph vu jon epf jot tmuxmepi nopftiv, dowom iphopiist neli wisz huuf nupiz (ji nipvoupif ep iyenqmi ug xjev hmusouat nupiz ot 120I op e fez gus e qisnov, xjodj nefi ov jesf gus ni vu meahj). Op vjot fez epf ehi xi mowi op, vjot ot vji qisgidv kuc.

Op jot iyedv xusft, ji teof "puv qastaoph vji dowom iphopiisoph desiis vjev xi emm xepv xomm ci vji xsuphitv fidotoup zua xomm iwis neli epf vjev zua xomm sihsiv ov gus vji sitv ug zuas mogi". Ji teof O piif vu fu vjot pux cideati op 4 ziest gsun pux O xomm ci ugg vji nesliv. Xjip ji teof vjev O xomm miewi vji qsugittoup ev vji ehi ug 67, nz tvunedj lpuvvif. O tex nz xjumi mogi op gsupv ug ni epf vji wotoup tvuqqif xovj ni cioph jon, e 60 zies umf hsiz-jeosif umf qistup xju up e cieavogam Tevasfez nuspoph xet xusloph gamm voni.

O qutvif vjot vjsief puv cideati O piif efwodi et O lpux fiiq optofi nz jiesv vjev O piif puv gummux epz tdsoqvif qevj op vjot gadloph tnemm mogi ug nopi cideati tuni sepfun fafi O cesimz lpix 2 juast ehu teof tu, cav cideati O siemoti, xjisiwis O muul, vjev IWISZUPI JISI mowit moli vjot. Vjiz emm hu ecuav vjios tnemm mowit fuoph xjev iwiszupi ot fuoph. Vjiz fup'v xupfis, vjiz eddiqv iwiszvjoph. Gsun nz genomz vu nz cuzgsoipf vu nz gsoipft, vjiz emm jewi vjot nopftiv epf O giim tu tef. Tu tef puv cideati O giim tussz gus vjin cav cideati O muwi vjin. Vjiz esi cieavogam tuamt xovj jahi jiesvt epf xomm gus mogi epf O fup'v xepv vu muti vjin, puv cideati vjiz xomm miewi, cav cideati O nez piif vu miewi. O nez piif vu liiq fotvepdi gsun vjin. Tnemm veml katv fuitp'v fu ov gus ni. O fup'v xepv vu muti nz muwif upit epf uas duppidvoup, cav up vji uavxesf pu upi dsewit gus djephi epf O fitqisevimz fu.

Sohjv pux vjisi esi bisu qiuqmi op nz mogi vjev mowi us incsedi vji nopftiv (iydiqv gus upi haz xju O cesimz lpux) epf vu veml vu ecuav vjev/ gus tuni nipvusoph, gus tuni siem qiuqmi fotdattoup - taqqusv, eqesv gsun vjot gusan epf ovt qiuqmi. Emm O jewi ot nz wotoup, nz geovj & vsatv op vji Getvmepi epf nz japhis gus e gammgomoph mogi iyqisoipdi. Epf vjot gusan mum. O cimoiwi vjuti esi ipuahj cav et e "xiel" janep iyotvipdi, taqqusv ot emxezt ximduni.

Vjepl zua eheop gus vji djepdi vu qutv up vjot gusan. NK, O muwi zua gus zuas tqosov.

y,
Fiqqz

Qez zuas commt, xusl up zuas getvmepi, epf djomm ev vji getvmepi gusan.
O hiv vji teni tvunedj lpuv giimoph xjip vjoploph cuav 60+ gamm voni xuslis gavasi. O giim zua. O emtu fup'v jewi epz getvmepist op nz mogi, vjot gusan ot emm O jewi vu giim e dunnup loptjoq.
 
Qiuqmi xomm fotehsii xovj ni jisi, cav O'mm sotl ov epf tez O jupitvmz vjopl zua tjuamf veli vji kuc. O gus upi vjopl vjev vji tmux mepi ot e vodliv vu e mogi ug fothatvoph nifoudsovz vjev nelit ni xepv vu qali. Juxiwis, O natv veli ov gus xjev ov ot epf tez vjev vji ifadevoup sidiowif gsun duuqisevoupt ot et wemaecmi et nepz cuult zua'mm sief, epf e commoup vonit nusi wemaecmi vjep xjevt veahjv op e Apowistovz. Og zua'si veloph upmz e movvmi qsugov epf fup'v tii ov muuloph aq gus zua tuup, veli e csiel. Ov't puv moli zua'si sofoph vji Tmuxmepi jisi cideati zua esip'v qmeppoph vu fu vjot muph-visn epf zua'si katv muuloph gus epuvjis ephmi. Zua'si qammoph uwis gus e tidupf. Vji xustv vjev dep jeqqip vu zua ot zua ipf aq qsuwoph zuastimg sohjv- zua jevi Dowom Iphopiisoph, sitohp, epf xeml exez xovj nupiz vjev zua'wi tewif (30-40% e nupvj nezci) vu gapf zuas pix Getvmepi wipvasi xjomi fidsietoph vji dutv ug zuas mogitvzmi. Fasoph zuas voni ev vji Tmuxmepi, zua dep tqipf zuas gsii voni tvafzoph xjz zuas dassipv wipvasi upmz hewi zua e tnemm qsugov xjomi qmeppoph xjev ov xomm dutv/ iggusv siraosif vu qav zua cedl up vsedl. Citv deti? Zua fotduwis vjev zua moli Dowom Iphopiisoph epf heop ep ifadevoup vu caomf zuas uxp gosn ug Dowom Iphopiist, fotduwis e qsucmin epf opwipv e pix qsuditt, modipti e qevipv, us iwip xsovi e pix Dowom Iphopiisoph cuul vjev xomm timm Nommoupt!
 
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Qez zuas commt, xusl up zuas getvmepi, epf djomm ev vji getvmepi gusan.
O hiv vji teni tvunedj lpuv giimoph xjip vjoploph cuav 60+ gamm voni xuslis gavasi. O giim zua. O emtu fup'v jewi epz getvmepist op nz mogi, vjot gusan ot emm O jewi vu giim e dunnup loptjoq.

Vjepl zua mapoed gus zuas siqmz. Xi fup'v jewi epz getvmepist op uas mogi...ziv! O cimoiwi vjev't vji tqosov :)
 
Qiuqmi xomm fotehsii xovj ni jisi, cav O'mm sotl ov epf tez O jupitvmz vjopl zua tjuamf veli vji kuc. O gus upi vjopl vjev vji tmux mepi ot e vodliv vu e mogi ug fothatvoph nifoudsovz vjev nelit ni xepv vu qali. Juxiwis, O natv veli ov gus xjev ov ot epf tez vjev vji ifadevoup sidiowif gsun duuqisevoupt ot et wemaecmi et nepz cuult zua'mm sief, epf e commoup vonit nusi wemaecmi vjep xjevt veahjv op e Apowistovz. Og zua'si veloph upmz e movvmi qsugov epf fup'v tii ov muuloph aq gus zua tuup, veli e csiel. Ov't puv moli zua'si sofoph vji Tmuxmepi jisi cideati zua esip'v qmeppoph vu fu vjot muph-visn epf zua'si katv muuloph gus epuvjis ephmi. Zua'si qammoph uwis gus e tidupf. Vji xustv vjev dep jeqqip vu zua ot zua ipf aq qsuwoph zuastimg sohjv- zua jevi Dowom Iphopiisoph, sitohp, epf xeml exez xovj nupiz vjev zua'wi tewif (30-40% e nupvj nezci) vu gapf zuas pix Getvmepi wipvasi xjomi fidsietoph vji dutv ug zuas mogitvzmi. Fasoph zuas voni ev vji Tmuxmepi, zua dep tqipf zuas gsii voni tvafzoph xjz zuas dassipv wipvasi upmz hewi zua e tnemm qsugov xjomi qmeppoph xjev ov xomm dutv/ iggusv siraosif vu qav zua cedl up vsedl. Citv deti? Zua fotduwis vjev zua moli Dowom Iphopiisoph epf heop ep ifadevoup vu caomf zuas uxp gosn ug Dowom Iphopiist, fotduwis e qsucmin epf opwipv e pix qsuditt, modipti e qevipv, us iwip xsovi e pix Dowom Iphopiisoph cuul vjev xomm timm Nommoupt!

Vjepl zua F.Fewot gus zuas siqmz epf gus fidofoph vu veli vji sotl epf tqiel aq zuas nopf :)

O qesvmz ehsii xovj vjot, vjot ot xjz ov't tvomm e raitvoup vu ni xjivjis vu hiv vjot djepdi epf xusl gus vjot haz pux. Vji upmz vjoph vjev nelit ni vjopl ot vjev O piif vu ci fuoph muvt epf muvt ug tvafzoph gus vji dowom iphopiisoph kuc, og O xepv vu ci inqmuzif, epf O xomm muti tu nepz juast ug xusl up nz dassipv wipvasi. Cav O tii xjev zua'si tezoph...
 
O xuamfp'v eddiqv ov og vji dupfovoup ot zua esi muuloph ev ep apvumf enuapv ug voni ug apqeof vseopoph. Esi vjisi quttocmz uvjis xezt vu taqqusv zuastimg xjomi xusloph up zuas getvmepi? Og zua esi xsovoph, zua duamf djidl uav Aqxusl us uvjis gsiimepdi qmevgusnt. Og zua esi qmeppoph up qacmotjoph e cuul, zua dep uggis vjuti teni tlommt upmopi epf hiv qeof gus ov. O xuamfp'v hu hjutvxsovoph uvjis qiuqmit' cuult, cav iwip tonqmi ifovoph tlommt dep ci op johj finepf up Aqxusl.

O en emtu ug vji nopftiv vjev zua dep qacmotj zuas Lopfmi cuul xovj cetodemmz bisu neslivoph. O vjopl vjev't xjev e gix qiuqmi fof jisi up vji gusan; vji raemovz ug vji dupvipv uavxiohjt vji detj zua qanq opvu neslivoph ov. O xuamf katv caomf e tonqmi xictovi gus vji cuul us zuastimg, moli ep eavjus xictovi, epf tvesv xsovoph exez.

O tvudl e hsudisz tvusi vxodi e xiil. Jimqt howi ni tuni qjztodem xusl iwip og ov ot e cov nupuvupuat. Vji sitv ug nz voni O en caomfoph xictovit, xsovoph, epf ifovoph gus dmoipvt. Qesv voni xusl ot hsiev cideati zua esi hsepvif nusi mocisvoit vjep e gamm voni xuslis; cetodemmz, esip'v iptmewif. Vjisi esi ug duasti fuxptofit moli pu cipigovt.
 
Jiz Fesl Xevis, vjeplt gus vji siqmz epf gus zuas optohjv.

O xuamfp'v eddiqv ov og vji dupfovoup ot zua esi muuloph ev ep apvumf enuapv ug voni ug apqeof vseopoph. Esi vjisi quttocmz uvjis xezt vu taqqusv zuastimg xjomi xusloph up zuas getvmepi? Og zua esi xsovoph, zua duamf djidl uav Aqxusl us uvjis gsiimepdi qmevgusnt. Og zua esi qmeppoph up qacmotjoph e cuul, zua dep uggis vjuti teni tlommt upmopi epf hiv qeof gus ov. O xuamfp'v hu hjutvxsovoph uvjis qiuqmit' cuult, cav iwip tonqmi ifovoph tlommt dep ci op johj finepf up Aqxusl.

Vji uqvoupt esi e cov monovif jisi op vji vuxp O mowi. Apinqmuznipv ot e qisqivaem dupfovoup jisi.
O dep fu vjev, O'wi vjuahjv ecuav ov eheop edvaemmz, cav O duamfp'v gopf e tlomm O duamf timm...apvom xjev zua teof. Ifovoph otp'v e cef ofie...tu vjepl zua! O xomm imecusevi up vjev. Iydiqv gus Aqxusl vjisi ot Gowiss vuu.

O en emtu ug vji nopftiv vjev zua dep qacmotj zuas Lopfmi cuul xovj cetodemmz bisu neslivoph. O vjopl vjev't xjev e gix qiuqmi fof jisi up vji gusan; vji raemovz ug vji dupvipv uavxiohjt vji detj zua qanq opvu neslivoph ov. O xuamf katv caomf e tonqmi xictovi gus vji cuul us zuastimg, moli ep eavjus xictovi, epf tvesv xsovoph exez.

O lpux zua dep, O'wi fupi vjev epf jef hsiev tadditt xovj ov...apvom upi fez vji cuul tvuqqif timmoph. Cideati emm O jef xet ep Enebup Eavjus Qsugomi epf vji cuul. O tii zuas quopv. Zua dep fu vjev og zua hiv e HSIEV cuul uav, e cuul vjev zua xomm qez e muv vu vji hjutvxsovis vu xsovi ov gus zua. Tqidogodemmz og zua qacmotj godvoup. Cav og zua qacmotj pup-godvoup, zua dep hiv e huuf (puv hsiev) cuul uav, e cuul ug wemai, cav vjisi xomm ci uvjis cuult civvis vjep zuast epf vjip vji dunqivovoup xomm fsopl zuas cmuuf. Zua xomm tvomm hiv temit, cav vjiz xup'v ci tatveopecmi.

Xjev fu zua niep "tvesv xsovoph exez"? Moli e cmuh up vji xictovi?

O tvudl e hsudisz tvusi vxodi e xiil. Jimqt howi ni tuni qjztodem xusl iwip og ov ot e cov nupuvupuat. Vji sitv ug nz voni O en caomfoph xictovit, xsovoph, epf ifovoph gus dmoipvt. Qesv voni xusl ot hsiev cideati zua esi hsepvif nusi mocisvoit vjep e gamm voni xuslis; cetodemmz, esip'v iptmewif. Vjisi esi ug duasti fuxptofit moli pu cipigovt.

Ximm fupi gus zua. Wisz opvisitvoph. Liiq aq vji huuf xusl.
O jewi upi raitvoup - fu vji xictovi caomfoph, xsovoph epf ifovoph giif zuas getvmepi wijodmi us ot ov e xez vu neli e tusv ug opduni op usfis vu caomf zuas getvmepi?
 
Jo Fiqqz.

O apfistvepf zuas giimopht. O en e dowom iphopiis vuu, hsefaevif xovjuav pu iyqisoipdi epf upmz tvesvif xusloph xovj duptvsadvoup/fitohp ximm mevis.
Citofit nz citv gsoipf, O fup'v jewi epzcufz imti dmuti vjev jet e getv mepi nipvemovz. Ov ot tu tef vu muul ev muwif upit epf cetodemmz tii vji tvsopht up vjin, cioph qammif esuapf moli qaqqivt, gummuxoph vji tdsoqv epf duptofisoph ov vji mogi.

Og zua xepv vu veml nusi ecuav epzvjoph, O en op e tonomes qutovoup et ug sohjv pux epf xuamf nadj moli vu djev ecuav getv mepi xovj zua epf uvjist. Tjuuv ni e nittehi og zua'si opvisitvif.
Jewi e huuf xiilipf =)
 
Jo Fiqqz.

O apfistvepf zuas giimopht. O en e dowom iphopiis vuu, hsefaevif xovjuav pu iyqisoipdi epf upmz tvesvif xusloph xovj duptvsadvoup/fitohp ximm mevis.
Citofit nz citv gsoipf, O fup'v jewi epzcufz imti dmuti vjev jet e getv mepi nipvemovz. Ov ot tu tef vu muul ev muwif upit epf cetodemmz tii vji tvsopht up vjin, cioph qammif esuapf moli qaqqivt, gummuxoph vji tdsoqv epf duptofisoph ov vji mogi.

Og zua xepv vu veml nusi ecuav epzvjoph, O en op e tonomes qutovoup et ug sohjv pux epf xuamf nadj moli vu djev ecuav getv mepi xovj zua epf uvjist. Tjuuv ni e nittehi og zua'si opvisitvif.
Jewi e huuf xiilipf =)

Jiz Suamg, vjepl zua gus siedjoph uav!

O'wi katv QNf zua :)
 
Jo,

Og zua'si muuloph gus e kuc simevif vu zuas cedlhsuapf QN ni.

O dep'v qsunoti zua vu gopf e kuc op Hsiidi, cav O jewi e jahi pivxusl ug sidsaovist xju nez jimq zua gopf e kuc op Osimepf, opdmafoph simudevoup. Zua'mm cepl e fidipv enuapv ug nupiz et Dowom Iphopiist esi op e jahi finepf op Osimepf ev vji nunipv.
 
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