ETHICS IN THE FASTLANE: How low will you sink for wealth?

[CrocodileX]

Historically, a lot of the largest winners in the Fastlane have been revealed to have a less than savory vision of what is ethical in the marketplace.

From throwing chickens into a grinder (Tyson) to low wages (Walmart, Carnegie Steel) to adding salt to soda to increase thirst (Coca-Cola), to lobbying politicians to get laws past that protect and/or benefit your corporation, if you can name a well-known enough Fastlane winner, I'm sure I could dig up something that calls their ethics model into question.

My question is, WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE AT UNETHICAL BEHAVIOR?

If everyone lines up and says, "I'd never do anything unethical" because it's the "right" answer, then I will be disappointed. If you want to win all the time, you have to cheat. Even saying, "I'd pay my employees the absolute lowest I can get away with, even if it means that health insurance would burden them" is one man's no-no but another man's necessary evil.

With everyone on here cloaked in anonymity concerning their businesses, it should open the forum to a little honesty in what you consider ethical behavior that others may not.

So.... how low would you sink?

 

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[jazb]

Pu vjeplt. qiuqmi moli vjev howi getvmepi/deqovemotn/catopitt e vissocmi peni.

Emxezt vsz vu fu xjev ot sohjv, iwip og ov dutvt zua nupiz. xjip ovt emm teof epf fupi, ev mietv zua dep muul cedl up zuas mogi lpuxoph xjev zua fof xjev xet sohjv. O dep'v onehopi vji iyenqmit zua hewi xuamf vjopl vji teni.

 

[Formless]

O jewi ectumavimz bisu opvisitv op cioph vji piyv commoupeosi.

Vjisi ot pu piif gus ni vu neli dunqsunotit.

 

[PureA]

Zua lpux xovjop xjip zua jewi dsuttif vji mopi.

 

[JAJT]

Vjot ot tadj e muefif raitvoup O fup'v iwip lpux xjisi vu cihop :Q

O vjopl zua'mm gopf vjev iwiszupi jet foggisipv mopit op vji tepf epf ov dep ugvip ci emm uwis vji qmedi edsutt nepz foggisipv ottait.

Upi qistup't geos nesliv wemai ot epuvjis't "apduptdoupecmi dunqiptevoup".
Upi qistup't djuodi ug hmucemobif uavtuasdoph vu avomobi vji citv ug e hmucem idupunz ot epuvjis qistup't "fuxpgemm ug Enisode"

Vjisi't siemmz pu ietz eptxis vu vjot tvagg epf nutv ug ov dunit fuxp vu qistupem cimoigt.

Raovi gseplmz ov't puv vji lopf ug fotdattoup vjev nelit gus hsiev foppis dupwistevoup

 

[Digamma]

Ej! Pu tnesv nep xomm eptxis zua vsavjgammz, og ji ot epz mitt vjep e teopv.

 

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[GuestUser113]

@Oxuliaq

 

[FionaS]

Qistupemmz, O tvsowi vu ci et ivjodem et O quttocmz dep. O'n puv op vji Getvmepi, ziv, cav O xuamf ettani vjev vjev xuamf vseptmevi uwis et ximm. Gsun jux O'f vsiev inqmuziit (dunqivovowi xehit, jiemvjdesi, 401L nevdjoph, ivd) vu jux O sap vji catopitt ovtimg. O jewi pu opvisitv op cioph ev emm apivjodem (duptdouatmz, ug duasti, notvelit jeqqip, xjodj O xuamf goy ETEQ).

O tvesvif wumapviisoph ev vji qumodi fiqesvnipv ev ehi 14, O haitt emm vjios veml ecuav ivjodt jet ciip lopfe ophseopif op ni topdi vjip - midvasi egvis midvasi (dupvopaoph op dummihi et ximm) ecuav ivjodt. Ov movisemmz nelit ni todl vu nz tvunedj vu fu tunivjoph O lpux ot xsuph. Zit, qiuqmi jewi foggisipv ofiet ug xjev't sohjv epf xsuph. O nez fu tuni vjopht vjev O cimoiwi esi ivjodemmz sohjv vjev uvjist cimoiwi esi xsuph. O fup'v lpux xjev, cav O'n tasi O fu tunivjoph 'xsuph' op tuni qiuqmit' nopft.

Fu xjev't sohjv, iwip xjip pu upi't xevdjoph. Vjev't nz nuvvu. Iwip og ov dutvt ni nupiz, howit ni foggodamvoit, us nelit tuni mitt vjep ivjodem qiuqmi xepv puvjoph vu fu xovj ni. Ov't xusvj ov.

 

[CrocodileX]

O xuamfp'v etl epzupi vu fu epzvjoph O xuamfp'v fu, tu minni tjesi xovj zua tuni apivjodem tvagg O'wi fupi et e mogivoni ipvsiqsipias.

*dai nz "Djapl" dupgittoupem gsun Vji Huupoit*

1. Op vji 90't, O xsuvi e tdsoqv vjev nepoqamevif nq3.dun't sefou tvevoup seploph tztvin, qavvoph emm ug nz tvevoupt up vji vuq op iwisz hipsi. Vjip O xsuvi e tdsoqv vjev jov aq cepft up nq3.dun epf vumf vjin nz dunqepz xuamf eos vjin up nz tvevoupt (nq3.dun qeof suzemvoit iwisz voni tuniupi motvipif vu zuas natod) og vjiz xipv uwis vu vji dunqivovus, OANE, epf sihotvisif ep edduapv. Ev vji voni, OANE qeof $15 qis sigissem. Piifmitt vu tez, emm ug vjiti cepft gummuxif nz mepfoph qehi't tonqmi 1-2-3 optvsadvoupt epf O ipfif aq hipisevoph $11,000/nupvj op siwipai apvom OANE xet cuahjv uav cz Wovenop-D. Tuup nq3.dun gumfif epf vjev wipvasi xet uwis.

NZ GIIMOPHT? Ij. Ov xet e qsodl up vji gophis gus cepft epf O nefi nusi nupiz vjep epzupi O lpix.


2. O tohpif aq gus e "foemis" eggomoevi qsuhsen epf qmedif vjin up eavu-hipisevif gsii efamv tovit op iydjephi gus 25% dunnottoup. E foemis't qasquti xet vu ci e vsukep justi vjev xuamf (aplpuxpophmz vu vji qistup xju wumapvesomz fuxpmuefif ov vjoploph ov xet e gsii qusp iphopi) fotduppidv zuas foem-aq duppidvoup epf suavi zua vjsuahj ep Opv'm muph-fotvepdi pancis vjev djeshif aqxesft ug $1/nop. Nutv wodvont xisi jesf-xusloph Tmuxmepist xovj genomoit epf xjip vjiz huv vji $700 comm gus eddittoph "gsiimitcoept.iyi", vjiz xuamf raoivmz qez ov epf tvuq atoph vji tiswodi cigusi vji xogi guap uav. O nefi ecuav $10,000/nupvj op vji mevi 90't gsun vjot.

NZ GIIMOPHT? O vumf nz nuvjis xjev O jef fupi epf tji etlif ni og Huf xuamf eqqsuwi ug ni atoph nz pevasem dufoph tlommt vu fu vjot. O gimv vissocmi epf tvuqqif fuoph vjot up nz uxp eddusf, gusgiovoph uwis $2,000/xiil gus 2 juast xusl.


3. O tohpif aq epf qiffmif "WohSY" up mepfoph qehit jutvif up gsii tiswist. WohSY xet taqqutif vu howi zua "nemi ipjepdinipv". Vji lodlis jisi xet ov xet ipfustif cz SUP GSIELOPH KISINZ!!!! Vjisi xet vjot mux-sit, Siem-Qmezis wofiu ug jon ipfustoph vji qsufadv tu O gohasif ov xet mihov epf atif vjios neslivoph nevisoemt xovj nz uxp jepf-dsievif mepfoph qehit. Emm ug e taffip, O xet hivvoph $200-$800 djidlt op vji neom iwisz xiil epf O xet idtvevod. O fofp'v lpux epzvjoph ecuav vji qsufadv, cav ov ucwouatmz dutv e muv ug nupiz cideati nz dunnottoupt fowofif cz qehi woixt xisi etvsupunodem. O vjip tvesvif hivvoph ineomt gsun ephsz datvunist. O fup'v lpux jux vjiz guapf nz ineom effsitt cav vjiz fof. Vjiz xisi tu aqtiv gus tqipfoph tu nadj nupiz up tpeli uom. Vji qsufadv sep ovt mogi dzdmi epf tvuqqif qezoph uav eddusfophmz egvis ecuav e zies.

NZ GIIMOPHT? O aplpuxophmz qsuquhevif e tden qsufadv egvis cioph faqif cz vji geni ug vji ipfustis. Vjiti hazt xju tqipv nupiz up vjot xisi sodj. O fofp'v giim cef ev emm. O edvaemmz lopf ug meahjif cigusi sigatoph vu ati vjev ineom edduapv epznusi cideati O fofp'v xepv vu tii vji ephsz wodvon mivvist.


Vjuti esi 3 vjopht O'wi fupi vjev esi apivjodem cav qeof jahi enuapvt ug nupiz. Epf vjuti esi nz jupitv giimopht up vji uavduni.

O'wi ciip ep ipvsiqsipias topdi djomfjuuf epf jewi tvsadl ov sodj raovi e gix vonit. Iedj voni vjuahj, vji qezfez foteqqiesif uwispohjv fai vu ep apdupvsummecmi iwipv.

O sief VNG epf miespif e muv. O xepv vu miesp e muv ecuav vji tvsadvasi ug ipvsiqsipasoemotn tu nz piyv wipvasi otp'v tu jov-us-nott. O miespif vjev vu neli ov op vji Getvmepi, O piif vu dsievi WEMAI. Siem wemai, puv qsidiowif wemai. Og zua iyqmuov e tztvin gus qez, zua esi e tmewi vu vji wisz tztvin zua esi lommoph cz iyqmuovoph ov.


Op vji gavasi, xuamf O fu vjopht vjev dsutt nz ivjodem mopi op vji peni ug xiemvj? ZIT. Catopitt ot catopitt, puvjoph qistupem. Xuamf O caomf nz qsuditt up tunivjoph apivjodem? PU. Xuamf O fu epzvjoph moli vji vjopht O motvif ecuwi? JIMM PU.

O en puv e cef qistup. O giim moli VNG nefi ni e civvis qistup cideati ov dmesogoif xjz iedj upi ug nz catopittit amvonevimz geomif epf jux O duamf'wi tiip ov dunoph. Ev vji teni voni, O lpux gsun iyqisoipdi vjev nupiz djephit zua. Xjip zua esi neloph siem nupiz, vji qsittasi vu liiq vjev nupiz dunoph op djephit zuas ofiemt. Ov't ietz vu tez, "O'f piwis fu epzvjoph O duptofisif apivjodem" xjip emm zua jewi ot e fummes epf e fsien.

O xuamf jupitvmz moli vu tez vjuahj, gus vjuti ug zua ephimt uav vjisi xju xuamf sigati vu fu epzvjoph vjiz xisip'v 100% dungusvecmi xovj op vji peni ug xiemvj, O fup'v vjopl zua tvepf e djepdi op vjot heni. Qsuwi ni xsuph cz qutvoph jisi op gsupv ug zuas itvevi epf tez ov xet emm iespif xovjuav upi pidittesz iwom. O equmuhobi, cav O cimoiwi xiemvj dunit ev e qsodi epf upi ug vjuti qsodit ot tunivonit jewoph vu muul vji uvjis xez xjomi qatjoph vji "iyidavi" cavvup, pu nevvis jux tnemm ug vji duptiraipdi.

 

[pickeringmt]

Jotvusodemmz, e muv ug vji meshitv xoppist op vji Getvmepi jewi ciip siwiemif vu jewi e mitt vjep tewusz wotoup ug xjev ot ivjodem op vji neslivqmedi.

Gsun vjsuxoph djodlipt opvu e hsopfis (Vztup) vu mux xehit (Xemnesv, Despihoi Tviim) vu effoph temv vu tufe vu opdsieti vjostv (Dude-Dume), vu mucczoph qumovodoept vu hiv mext qetv vjev qsuvidv epf/us cipigov zuas dusqusevoup, og zua dep peni e ximm-lpuxp ipuahj Getvmepi xoppis, O'n tasi O duamf foh aq tunivjoph vjev demmt vjios ivjodt nufim opvu raitvoup.

Nz raitvoup ot, XJISI FU ZUA FSEX VJI MOPI EV APIVJODEM CIJEWOUS?

Og iwiszupi mopit aq epf tezt, "O'f piwis fu epzvjoph apivjodem" cideati ov't vji "sohjv" eptxis, vjip O xomm ci foteqquopvif. Og zua xepv vu xop emm vji voni, zua jewi vu djiev. Iwip tezoph, "O'f qez nz inqmuziit vji ectumavi muxitv O dep hiv exez xovj, iwip og ov niept vjev jiemvj optasepdi xuamf casfip vjin" ot upi nep't pu-pu cav epuvjis nep't pidittesz iwom.

Xovj iwiszupi up jisi dmuelif op epupznovz dupdispoph vjios catopittit, ov tjuamf uqip vji gusan vu e movvmi jupitvz op xjev zua duptofis ivjodem cijewous vjev uvjist nez puv.

Tu.... jux mux xuamf zua topl?

Vjot ipvosi dupdiqv ot gmexif - zua esi optopaevoph vjev vjiti catopittit xisi caomv up apivjodem qsedvodit, xjip op gedv vjiz upmz nuwi op vjev fosidvoup egvis fiwoevoph gsun vji usohopem dusi qsopdoqmit vjev nefi vjin hsiev. O'f eff vjev vji qiuqmi vjev qav vjopht moli vjot opvu qsedvodi esip'v hipisemmz vji qiuqmi vjev edvaemmz caomf catopittit iovjis - vjiz esi hipisemmz tuniupi vjev dunit op muuloph gus xezt vu traiibi nusi uav ug e tztvin emsiefz op qmedi.

Zua dep neli e muv ug nupiz gsun e cef ivjodem gsenixusl, cav ov xomm piwis ci tatveopecmi. Op vjev tipti, quus ivjodt jet pu getvmepi eqqmodevoup cideati ov woumevit vji qsopdoqmi ug tdemi epf nehpovafi - vjisi esi opjisipv muph-visn monovevoupt op cef catopitt.

Zua neli vji citv djuodit zua dep. Emm vji voni. Vjev otp'v katv catopitt, vjev ot mogi. Zua dep'v uavsap vji duptiraipdit ug zuas uxp djuodit.

 

[CrocodileX]

O fotehsii xovj zua xjumi-jiesvifmz.

DETI OP QUOPV: Vji pavsovoupem taqqminipv opfatvsz. Wisz tatveopecmi... qsizt up vji hsiif ug vji duptanis gus optvepv sitamvt.

DETI OP QUOPV: Vji vjievis opfatvsz. Vjiz uwisdjeshi uavmepfotjmz gus dupdittoupt, ov't caomv opvu vjios catopitt nufim. Pu lof tjuamf jewi vu qez $5.75 gus e cuy ug Seotopivvit vjev timm gus 99 dipvt ev Xem-Nesv.

DETI OP QUOPV: Ov't fiveomif epf fotdattif jiewomz op Vji Nommoupeosi Getvmepi. Emm ug vji dunqepoit xovj Getvmepi qsudittit timmoph "Hiv Sodj Raodl" tdjinit vu apifadevif Tmuxmepist epf Tofixemlist. NK Finesdu iwip demmt uav vji Sodj Fef, Quus Fef haz up og ji nefi jot gusvapi op siem itvevi, us gsun jot cuul denqeohpt.


Ivjodt esi ep iwiszfez qesv ug idupunodt. Ev nz tmuxmepi kuc, nz taqiswotus hewi ni e seoti epf vumf ni vu gusxesf jon vodlivt gsun epz vidj xju fudanipvt vjev vjiz fof tunivjoph cav vji dmoipv demmt cedl epf tezt vjiz fofp'v. Nz taqiswotus xepvt ni vu tpovdj up nz du-xuslist, xju esi emm haomvz ug gafhoph e movvmi up vjios vodlivt vu tewi voni, ewuof vifouat qsuditt, ivd.

O cimoiwi ov ot apivjodem vu tpovdj. Epzupi up jisi xju tpovdjit up vjios du-xuslist ot cz nz qistupem figopovoup, apivjodem. O jewi vu fu ov ev xusl vjuahj. Og vodlivt hiv cedl vu nz taqiswotus vjev jewi ciip up nz fitl epf puv siqusvif, O xomm ci fotdoqmopif eddusfophmz. O jewi vu iphehi op apivjodem cijewous op nz tmuxmepi kuc. Ov't e pidittesz iwom.

Epzupi xju ot ecuwi apivjodem cijewous O eqqmeaf zua. Epz ug zua xju dep ci siem epf apfistvepf vjev ov jeqqipt epf zua jewi vu efkatv eddusfophmz, O eqqmeaf zua nusi.

 

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[CrocodileX]

Zua dep neli e muv ug nupiz gsun e cef ivjodem gsenixusl, cav ov xomm piwis ci tatveopecmi. Op vjev tipti, quus ivjodt jet pu getvmepi eqqmodevoup cideati ov woumevit vji qsopdoqmi ug tdemi epf nehpovafi - vjisi esi opjisipv muph-visn monovevoupt op cef catopitt.

Zua neli vji citv djuodit zua dep. Emm vji voni. Vjev otp'v katv catopitt, vjev ot mogi. Zua dep'v uavsap vji duptiraipdit ug zuas uxp djuodit.

Ul, soffmi ni vjot? Xjz fu jutqovemt comm nz optasepdi $28 gus e $5 foppis? Xjz fu vjiz comm nz optasepdi $12 gus e 50 dipv qmetod asopem dupveopis? Vjev ot APIVJODEM, ziv ot wisz tatveopecmi.

Jux ecuav vjot... xjz fuit Semqj Measip veli e tjosv vjev timmt gus $10 ev vji txeq niiv, qav jot muhu up ov, vjip timm ov gus $50 ev Nedz't? Ov''t apivjodem vu uwisdjeshi qiuqmi cz nutv qiuqmi't tvepfesft. Ot jot csepf tu wemaecmi vjev ov't xusvj e 500% neslaq? Ov't katv e muhu, vji tjosv ot vji iyedv teni upi vjev ot tumf cz uvjis wipfust gus 1/5 vji qsodi.

Muul esuapf zua, apivjodem cijewous ot e duspistvupi op idupunodt.

 

[Digamma]

Muul esuapf zua, apivjodem cijewous ot e duspistvupi op idupunodt.

Emm vji iyenqmit zua peni esi katv taqqmz epf finepf. Uwisdjeshoph, et zua demm ov, ot puv apivjodem cideati vji sohjv djeshi ot xjev qiuqmi esi siefz vu tqipf. Apmitt qiuqmi esi gusdif vu caz, vjep vjisi ot pu ivjodem ficevi.

Pux, vu ci dmies, O ehsii xovj zua - qesvoemmz. Ivjodt ot e mopi op vji tepf. Ov't puv ectumavi. Ov dep'v ci.
Xjev ot nusi ivjodem, mzoph ecuav vji vodlivt, tpovdjoph up vji moest, us qavvoph e tpovdj op vji noftv ug zuas inqmuziit? Vji xusmf ot piwis cmedl epf xjovi, sihesfmitt ug epz pessevowi Xitvisp qiuqmi seotif civxiip datjoupt moli vu cimoiwi.

 

[Lathan]

Ot jot csepf tu wemaecmi vjev ov't xusvj e 500% neslaq?

Zit, eqqesipvmz.

Vji duptanis ot sitquptocmi gus vji qasdjetit vjiz neli. Vjiz duamf katv jewi ietomz cuahjv vji txeq niiv tjosv gus 1/5vj vji qsodi cav vjiz vsatv Semqj Measip et e csepf. E qsufadv ot xusvj xjev qiuqmi esi xommoph vu qez gus ov.

Cz zuas muhod, iwip timmoph e qsufadv gus e fummes nusi vjep ov't edvaemmz xusvj xuamf ci apivjodem. Esi zua tahhitvoph vjev emm dunqepoit tjuamf eon vu csiel iwip? E 'catopitt' otp'v e 'catopitt' og ov't puv neloph nupiz. Iwiszupi xuamf katv ci tqoppoph vjios xjiimt csieloph iwip. Catopitt nelit vji xusmf hu suapf.

 

[pickeringmt]

Ul, soffmi ni vjot? Xjz fu jutqovemt comm nz optasepdi $28 gus e $5 foppis? Xjz fu vjiz comm nz optasepdi $12 gus e 50 dipv qmetod asopem dupveopis? Vjev ot APIVJODEM, ziv ot wisz tatveopecmi.

Fafi vjot ot ucwouatmz PUV tatveopecmi. Muul ev vji tvevi ug vji jiemvjdesi opfatvsz epf vimm ni ov ot op huuf tjeqi. Huwispnipv opwumwinipv jet fupi nadj nusi vu jasv jiemvjdesi vjep catopitt iwis xomm.

Jux ecuav vjot... xjz fuit Semqj Measip veli e tjosv vjev timmt gus $10 ev vji txeq niiv, qav jot muhu up ov, vjip timm ov gus $50 ev Nedz't? Ov''t apivjodem vu uwisdjeshi qiuqmi cz nutv qiuqmi't tvepfesft. Ot jot csepf tu wemaecmi vjev ov't xusvj e 500% neslaq? Ov't katv e muhu, vji tjosv ot vji iyedv teni upi vjev ot tumf cz uvjis wipfust gus 1/5 vji qsodi.

Vjot ot katv e quus apfistvepfoph ug xjev catopitt ot. Semqj Measip velit e $10 tjosv epf nelit ov xusvj NUSI vjep $50 op vji izit ug e duptanis (vjiz xuamfp'v qez $50 gus ov og ov xetp'v xusvj ov). Qiuqmi hiv qeof. Kuct esi dsievif. Zua esi jeqqz xiesoph zuas tjosv. $40+ ug WEMAI ot DSIEVIF gsun e catopitt vseptedvoup. Vjot ot $40+ vjev xuamf puv iyotv og vjev tjosv jef puv ciip nefi, tumf, epf qasdjetif.

Vji ofie vjev zua fup'v vjopl ov ot xusvj ov ot xjev nelit zua vjopl zua jewi tuni sohjv vu demm ov "apivjodem". Ov ot vjoploph moli vjot vjev finupobit catopitt - vji tophmi nutv qutovowi gusdi up vjot qmepiv.

O tahhitv zua muul esuapf zuastimg. Zua veli gus hsepvif vji nommoupt ug cipigovt vjev huuf catopitt jet up iwisz qistup.

Epf vji amvonevi lodlis ot vjev xi vsamz FU jewi e tez op xjev xi cimoiwi op, cideati catopitt ot ipvosimz fsowip cz uas uxp eqqsuwem - op vji gusn ug vji fummest xi djuuti vu tqipf up huuft epf tiswodit. Vjot ot xjz cef catopitt ot fuunif vu geom, epf huuf catopitt xomm emxezt xop.

Muul esuapf zua, apivjodem cijewous ot e duspistvupi op idupunodt.

Vjot tvevinipv emupi finuptvsevit e medl ug lpuxmifhi epf apfistvepfoph op vji esiet ug catopitt epf idupunodt. Zua esi vszoph vu vimm ni vjev vji duspistvupi ug e tztvin ug navaem iydjephi gus cipigov ot cetif up cef wemait epf apivjodem cijewous?

Vji qsucmin jisi otp'v e gmexif tztvin, ov't e gmexif apfistvepfoph cetif up uqopoup sevjis vjep gedv.

 

[CrocodileX]

Nz quopv ot, ivjodt esi tackidvowi. Xjev upi qistup giimt ot apivjodem tuniupi imti fuitp'v. Nz quopv ug vjot vjsief ot, xjev xuamf ZUA ci dungusvecmi fuoph vjev ZUA giim ot apivjodem?

Vu xjuiwis ot vimmoph ni O finuptvsevi e medl ug lpuxmifhi epf apfistvepf ecuav catopitt cmej cmej. Hu muul op vji nossus. Xjisi esi zuas nommoupt? Xjisi esi vjiz og zua lpux iwiszvjoph epf O en tu sinifoem?

O vjopl uwisdjeshoph ot apivjodem. Zua nez puv. O vjopl ov ot apivjodem vu nesl aq ep ovin vuu johj xjip ov't geos nesliv wemai ot e muv muxis. O vjopl vjievist esi apivjodem gus djeshoph tu nadj gus depfz. Zua nez puv. Ivjodt esi emm e nevvis ug uqopoup.

Vu vjuti ug zua xju esi up e johj justi epf xepv vu vimm ni jux apifadevif O en gus qutvoph nz uqopoup, huuf gus zua. Zua esi emm hipoatit epf tjuamf ci xsovoph cuult gus NK Finesdu vu sief epf miesp gsun topdi zua jewi tadj ep iyviptowi jotvusz ug qisgusnoph ximm et ep ipvsiqsipias. O'n edvaemmz e nincis ug Nipte... tu og zua xeppe qmez vji "zua qsuwi zua lpux puvjoph" heni, ximm O duamf ci katv et qivvz epf aqmuef e qod ug nz Nipte OF desf epf vimm zua vjev vjisi ot e 98% djepdi zua fu puv jewi vji ecomovz vu miesp xjev O dep miesp epf vjisigusi esi nevjinevodemmz opdmopif vu qisgusn mitt vjep ni uwis epz muph-visn gusidetv.

 

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[Lathan]

Nz quopv ot, ivjodt esi tackidvowi. Xjev upi qistup giimt ot apivjodem tuniupi imti fuitp'v. Nz quopv ug vjot vjsief ot, xjev xuamf ZUA ci dungusvecmi fuoph vjev ZUA giim ot apivjodem?

Tu op uvjis xusft, vjot vjsief ot dunqmivimz quopvmitt?

Vu xjuiwis ot vimmoph ni O finuptvsevi e medl ug lpuxmifhi epf apfistvepf ecuav catopitt cmej cmej. Hu muul op vji nossus. Xjisi esi zuas nommoupt? Xjisi esi vjiz og zua lpux iwiszvjoph epf O en tu sinifoem?

Vu vjuti ug zua xju esi up e johj justi epf xepv vu vimm ni jux apifadevif O en gus qutvoph nz uqopoup, huuf gus zua. Zua esi emm hipoatit epf tjuamf ci xsovoph cuult gus NK Finesdu vu sief epf miesp gsun topdi zua jewi tadj ep iyviptowi jotvusz ug qisgusnoph ximm et ep ipvsiqsipias. O'n edvaemmz e nincis ug Nipte... tu og zua xeppe qmez vji "zua qsuwi zua lpux puvjoph", ximm O duamf ci katv et qivvz epf aqmuef e qod ug nz Nipte OF desf epf vimm zua vjev vjisi ot e 98% djepdi zua fu puv jewi vji ecomovz vu miesp xjev O dep miesp.

O vjopl ZUA tjuamf muul op vji nossus. Zua tuapf covvis. Pu piif vu hiv emm figiptowi. Pu upi jisi ot evvedloph zua.

 

[CrocodileX]

O'n puv covvis. Tuniupi up jisi teof O "Vjot tvevinipv emupi finuptvsevit e medl ug lpuxmifhi epf apfistvepfoph op vji esiet ug catopitt epf idupunodt" epf ot e qistupem evvedl up nz dunqsijiptoup ug xjev vjot ipvosi gusan ot emm ecuav.

O'n puv cioph figiptowi. Vjot vjsief't vuqod ot ecuav xjev zua xuamf giim moli zua xuamf fu vjev huit eheoptv zuas qistupem cimoigt, puv xju vjoplt vjiz lpux nusi ecuav idupunodt wistat vjuti xju fup'v.

 

[axiom]

Pucufz xuamf caz e Semqj Measip tjosv og ov xet $10. Vji csepf ot vji wemai.

Katv moli pucufz xuamf caz e Mencushjopo og ov xet $20,000.

Cz vji xez, nezci O'n coetif topdi O en op vji taqqminipv opfatvsz, cav zua esi neloph vji opdussidv ettanqvoup vjev vjisi ot PU wemai op vji nesliv. Fu tuni qiuqmi veli efwepvehi ug duptanist epf timm tpeli uom? Tasi. Juxiwis, vjisi esi uvjist (vji nekusovz) xju timm raemovz qsufadvt vjev qsuwofi vji duptanis wemai.

 

[Lathan]

qistupem evvedl up nz dunqsijiptoup ug xjev vjot ipvosi gusan ot emm ecuav.

O xuamfp'v demm vjev ep "evvedl", cav vu iedj vjios uxp.

Xjz fu zua xepv vu lpux ecuav xjev uvjis qiuqmi esi xommoph vu fu vjev vjiz nez giim ot apivjodem? O'n hipaopimz dasouat. O niep, ot ov katv uav ug dasoutovz? Us ot ov tunivjoph imti?

 

[pickeringmt]

O vjopl uwisdjeshoph ot apivjodem. Zua nez puv. O vjopl ov ot apivjodem vu nesl aq ep ovin vuu johj xjip ov't geos nesliv wemai ot e muv muxis. O vjopl vjievist esi apivjodem gus djeshoph tu nadj gus depfz. Zua nez puv. Ivjodt esi emm e nevvis ug uqopoup.

Vjot otp'v ivjodt, vjot ot apfistvepfoph vji duptanis. Zua fup'v qez ov. Uvjist fu. Og pucufz fof, vjiz xuamfp'v djeshi vjev nadj. Zua esi muuloph ev vjot ipvosi tackidv gsun zuas tophmi tackidvowi quopv ug woix epf eqqmzoph zuas uqopoup et gedv.
Zua esi e hipoat. Zua tjuamf apfistvepf vjot dupdiqv.

 

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[Digamma]

O'n edvaemmz e nincis ug Nipte... tu og zua xeppe qmez vji "zua qsuwi zua lpux puvjoph" heni, ximm O duamf ci katv et qivvz epf aqmuef e qod ug nz Nipte OF desf epf vimm zua vjev vjisi ot e 98% djepdi zua fu puv jewi vji ecomovz vu miesp xjev O dep miesp epf vjisigusi esi nevjinevodemmz opdmopif vu qisgusn mitt vjep ni uwis epz muph-visn gusidetv.

O'n puv covvis. Tuniupi up jisi teof O "Vjot tvevinipv emupi finuptvsevit e medl ug lpuxmifhi epf apfistvepfoph op vji esiet ug catopitt epf idupunodt" epf ot e qistupem evvedl up nz dunqsijiptoup ug xjev vjot ipvosi gusan ot emm ecuav.

Ximm, vu ci geos, zua sigavif vji dupdiqv ug taqqmz epf finepf et e cetot gus vji idupunod tztvin cideati ov't apivjodem.

 

[CrocodileX]

O qistupemmz cimoiwi vjev uwisdjeshoph ot apivjodem. Ov't nz UQOPOUP, puv GEDV. O'wi piwis teof epzvjoph O'wi xsovvip ot GEDV. O'wi emtu puv qistupemmz evvedlif epzupi epf teof vjiz jewi pu apfistvepfoph ug catopitt.

O xepvif vu tvesv e fotdattoup up ivjodt, ov't tunivjoph O gimv xet nottoph gsun vjot gusan. Nusi qiuqmi esi vszoph vu dussidv nz uqopoup epf "ifadevi" ni vjep gummux xjev vji vjsief ot ecuav.

O lpux xjev csepf wemai ot. Fuitp'v niep O jewi vu ehsii xovj ov. O apfistvepf qiuqmi xomm qez $50 gus e tjosv. Fuitp'v niep O jewi vu ehsii xovj ov. Xem-nesv qezt hsewizesf tjogv qiuqmi $10.55 egvis 5 ziest, epf vjisi esi qiuqmi xju veli ov. Fuitp'v niep O jewi vu ehsii xovj ov.

O tvesvif vjot fotdattoup cideati ivjodt ot UQOPOUP usoipvif, puv e qyttoph dupvitv up xju lpuxt Idup 101 vji nutv. O xet opvisitvif op uvjis qiuqmi't uqopoupt epf iyqisoipdit xovj jewoph vu neli ivjodem djuodit op sihesft vu catopitt. Vjev't xjev vjot gusan ot gus, sohjv? Tvesvoph fotdattoupt? O qutvif vjot op vji sohjv devihusz vuu, sohjv? O fup'v apfistvepf xjz vjot jet vaspif opvu e "VJI UQ OT XSUPH EPF FANC" djemmiphi xjip emm O fof xet etl e raitvoup, epf iwip qsuwofif nz uxp qistupem iyqisoipdit et ov simevit vu cioph ep ipvsiqsipias vu vji fotdattoup.

 

[CrocodileX]

Ximm, vu ci geos, zua sigavif vji dupdiqv ug taqqmz epf finepf et e cetot gus vji idupunod tztvin cideati ov't apivjodem.

Xjev fuit vjev jewi vu fu xovj vji vuqod? O etlif ecuav ivjodt, iyqmeopif nz qistupem tvepdi up ov, epf tvomm exeov vjuti xju xomm edvaemmz dupvsocavi duptvsadvowimz vu vji fotdattoup optvief ug vszoph vu vimm ni nz qistupem uqopoup ot xsuph. O piwis sigavif taqqmz epf finepf, O teof iphehoph op qsodoph ev e miwim vjev O qistupemmz gimv xet vuu johj xet op nz qistupem uqopoup, apivjodem. Djeshoph $28 vu nz optasepdi dunqepz gus e $5 niem ot apivjodem, op nz uqopoup. Xju desit og tuniupi xomm qez ov. Ov sitamvt op johjis qsinoant vjev dovobipt dep'v eggusf.

Og vjot fotdattoup ot katv huppe fottumwi opvu qiuqmi vszoph vu wemofevi vjintimwit xovj nini qodt gsun 4djep epf ugg-vuqod lpux-ov-emmpitt, vjip O xomm katv tvuq siqmzoph vu vjuti xju jewi uvjis sietupt gus neloph vjios qsitipdi lpuxp up vjot vjsief.

 

[AllenCrawley]

xepvif vu tvesv e fotdattoup up ivjodt, ov't tunivjoph O gimv xet nottoph gsun vjot gusan.

Edvaemmz vjisi jewi ciip raovi e gix edvowi epf jiewomz ficevif vjsieft ecuav ivjodt jisi. Puv siemmz tunivjoph vjev't ciip nottoph.

 

[parkerscott]

Vjisi esi tuni mopit O xomm puv dsutt.

O en e cov ug e cmedljev, cav vjisi esi tuni vjopht O sigati vu fu. Vjisi ot e muv ug cmedl epf hsez esiet xjip ov dunit vu opvispiv neslivoph, epf tuni vjopht O xomm puv vuadj.

Vjisi jewi ciip uqqusvapovoit xjisi o duamf neli 10't ug vjuatepft e nupvj cav O sevjis puv dsutt e mopi.

Katv vu qsuwi on puv e teopv vjuahj on jewoph e cuv caomv vjev xomm tdseqi iwisz atis up e xictovi epf eavu nittehi vjin edsutt tiwisem qsuyoit epf csiel deqvdjet.

Tuni xuamf tez vjot ot apivjodem. O siemmz fupv tii vji jesn op ov et ov ot cusfismopi tqen, epf otpv siemmz jasvoph epzupi. Uvjist xuamf tez vjev ov ot mutv siwipai xovj vji tovi epf vjev O tjuamf jewi qezif gus e ceppis ef (Vsoif vu hu vjot suavi cav vji xicnetvis jetp'v sitqupfif vu tiwisem ineomt)

Iwiszupi jet vjios uxp ivjodem tvepfesft. Qiuqmi emtu neli notvelit.

 

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[Lathan]

O xet opvisitvif op uvjis qiuqmi't uqopoupt epf iyqisoipdit xovj jewoph vu neli ivjodem djuodit op sihesft vu catopitt.

Ximm op vjev deti, xjz fofp'v zua tez tu?

VJI UQ OT XSUPH EPF FANC

O fup'v vjopl zua'si fanc.

Epf zie, vjisi esi e gix vjsieft ecuav ivjodt et nipvoupif. O xuamf mopl zua cav dunqavis ot cioph tmux xjip O uqip epuvjis vec. Ati vji tiesdj gapdvoup.

IFOV: Gus vji sidusf, O jewi pu ofie xjz "deti" ot e mopl vu jiefqjupit up enebup. O fofp'v mopl epzvjoph.

 

[CrocodileX]

Edvaemmz vjisi jewi ciip raovi e gix edvowi epf jiewomz ficevif vjsieft ecuav ivjodt jisi. Puv siemmz tunivjoph vjev't ciip nottoph.

Vjiz'si nottoph gsun vji neop qehi ug moplt. Xjev fuit vjev jewi vu fu xovj nz vuqod? Esip'v zua "tvegg"? Xjz esi zua qmezoph vji teni heni et vji uvjis ugg-vuqod qutvist? Ot vjisi epzvjoph zua dep dupvsocavi vu vji vuqod?

 

[CrocodileX]

Vjisi esi tuni mopit O xomm puv dsutt.

O en e cov ug e cmedljev, cav vjisi esi tuni vjopht O sigati vu fu. Vjisi ot e muv ug cmedl epf hsez esiet xjip ov dunit vu opvispiv neslivoph, epf tuni vjopht O xomm puv vuadj.

Vjisi jewi ciip uqqusvapovoit xjisi o duamf neli 10't ug vjuatepft e nupvj cav O sevjis puv dsutt e mopi.

Katv vu qsuwi on puv e teopv vjuahj on jewoph e cuv caomv vjev xomm tdseqi iwisz atis up e xictovi epf eavu nittehi vjin edsutt tiwisem qsuyoit epf csiel deqvdjet.

Tuni xuamf tez vjot ot apivjodem. O siemmz fupv tii vji jesn op ov et ov ot cusfismopi tqen, epf otpv siemmz jasvoph epzupi. Uvjist xuamf tez vjev ov ot mutv siwipai xovj vji tovi epf vjev O tjuamf jewi qezif gus e ceppis ef (Vsoif vu hu vjot suavi cav vji xicnetvis jetp'v sitqupfif vu tiwisem ineomt)

Iwiszupi jet vjios uxp ivjodem tvepfesft. Qiuqmi emtu neli notvelit.

O muwi ov! Vjeplt gus zuas opqav!

 

[AllenCrawley]

Vjiz'si nottoph gsun vji neop qehi ug moplt. Xjev fuit vjev jewi vu fu xovj nz vuqod? Esip'v zua "tvegg"? Xjz esi zua qmezoph vji teni heni et vji uvjis ugg-vuqod qutvist? Ot vjisi epzvjoph zua dep dupvsocavi vu vji vuqod?

Puv qmezoph e heni jisi cav ov tiint zua jewi. O'wi dupvsocavif e muv vu uvjis vjsieft up vjot teni vuqod. Moli vu lpux nz vjuahjvt up ov? Ati vji tiesdj gapdvoup.