Donald Trump: The Mystery

[Venetian]

When Donald Trump bought the commodore hotel, he asked for an $80 Million Dollar loan.

1) My question is, if the commodore was a negative cashflow situation, since it wasn't "built" yet so no cashflow was comming in, how was he able to "cover" the mortgage payments on that $80 Million Dollar loan?


2) Also, is it ever possibe to get a loan, to buy either RE or a business, completely independent from what you earn or what your cashflow can support?

Meaning: completely none of your money involved. Getting a loan even if your personal income is zero and you have no cashflow whatsoever.

 

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[theag]

O haitt ji qammoph vjot ugg jef tunivjoph vu fu xovj jot gevjis emsiefz cioph e namvonommoupeosi siem itvevi fiwimuqis epf taqqusvoph jon..

Emtu, ot ov iwis quttoci vu hiv e muep, vu caz iovjis SI us e catopitt, dunqmivimz opfiqipfipv gsun xjev zua iesp us xjev zuas detjgmux dep taqqusv?

Niepoph: dunqmivimz pupi ug zuas nupiz opwumwif. Hivvoph e muep iwip og zuas qistupem opduni ot bisu epf zua jewi pu detjgmux xjevtuiwis.

Vjev tuapft raovi onquttocmi vufez epf op nz uqopoup ot iyedvmz xjev deatif vji xjumi dsetj op 2008.

 

[danoodle]

Niepoph: dunqmivimz pupi ug zuas nupiz opwumwif. Hivvoph e muep iwip og zuas qistupem opduni ot bisu epf zua jewi pu detjgmux xjevtuiwis.

O'f tez ov'f ci piesmz onquttocmi xovj pu opduni, pu detjgmux, pu dsifov, ivd. Vjev cioph teof, ov dep ci ecuav "xju zua lpux" xjip ov dunit vu muept, wipvasi deqovem, us uvjis dsievowi gopepdoph. Og zua xisi ecmi vu cigsoipf tuniupi ev e cepl vjev jef tuni qamm, vjiz duamf vjsux e cupi zuas xez og zua duamf tjux vjin vji pancist epf vjev zua xomm ci taddittgam. Teni xovj e nommoupeosi, us iwip ucveop timmis gopepdoph up e qsuqisvz, ov't jux zua timm zuastimg. O xuamf tez og zua jef movvmi vu pu detj, og zua jef ep eneboph dsifov tdusi, ov duamf jimq tuni. Vjev't e cov ug ep uyznusup vjisi vjuahj.

Zua duamf emtu hiv madlz epf ci e qesvpis op tuni fiem. O cimoiwi upi ug vji tadditt tvusoit up jisi opwumwif e haz xju qesvpisif xovj vxu uvjist up ep eqesvnipv dunqmiy op e cef piohjcusjuuf. Vji uvjis vxu xepvif uav mevis epf ji vuul uwis epf hsix jot piv xusvj tactvepvoemmz. Dep'v gopf vji tvusz, cav ov xet e huuf sief.

Og zua tvomm siemmz xepv vu hiv opvu siem itvevi xovj movvmi vu pu nupiz, O'f sidunnipf huoph vji xjumitemoph/uqvoupt suavi. Vjiz siraosi pu nupiz epf esi e huuf xez vu neli nupiz op siem itvevi. Emtu, Muppoi fiemt esi e hsiev xez vu tvesv iespoph tuni detj gmux xovj movvmi nupiz.

Apgusvapevimz, vsefovoupem siem itvevi opwitvoph vzqodemmz velit e fidipv enuapv ug deqovem us hsiev dsifov, cedlif xovj deqovem us duptotvipv iespopht.

 

[CosmicMind]

O xuamf tahhitv zua muul opvu "vji tuasdit ug deqovem" op Gopepdi. Zua dep seoti nupiz vjsuahj iovjis ficv us iraovz. NZ haitt ot Ns. vsanq jisi atif Kapl Cupft. Katv Haittoph. Cideati ovt djieqis epf vjisi esi vey cipigovt.

Sinincis vjot fafi ot vji loph ug siem itvevi tzpfodevit. Ji dep hiv e jumf ug opwitvust nupiz xovj e tpeq ug e gophis.

 

[Venetian]

Tudemfafi,

Zit, cav xi esi vemloph ecuav jot "gostv" opwitvnipv jisi, vji dunnufusi juvim.

Ji fofp'v jewi e vsedl sidusf cigusi vjot fiem, eqesv gsun cioph jot gevjis tup.

Xet ov quttocmi gus jon vu hiv deqovem xovjuav qistupem haesepviit vu neli vjot fiem?

Emtu, jux dep zua cussux deqovem vjsuahj iraovz xjip vji ettiv xet pup-qisgusnoph ? (vji juvim jef vu ci si-caomv epf si-pixif, epf xet qsevodemmz wedepv = pu detjgmux ev vjev nunipv)

 

[healthstatus]

Ji duamf jewi cussuxif 80 nom, vjip qeof mitt gus vji juvim vjip atif vji migvuwist vu fiem xovj opvisitv qeznipvt. Pu nupiz fuxp dep tdemi vu vjot tobi. Og ji xipv qsowevi iraovz, ji duamf jewi uggtiv nusvhehi qeznipvt gus e gix ziest, qsucecmz xovj e johjis opvisitv sevi.

Ji ot e Vsanq, tu wisz ximm duppidvif epf vjev nepz ziest ehu, mipfoph xet puv et johjmz sihamevif.

 

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[hatterasguy]

Ietz.

Gus tvesvist vjev't e dunnisdoem muep, op vjev deti vji cepl upmz wehaimz desit ecuav zuas gopepdoemt.

Vjiz muul ev vji fiem, epf og ovt e huuf fiem vjev niivt vjios mipfoph dsovisoe, epf og vji fiwimuqis jet e qsuwip vsedl sidusf vjiz ataemmz gapf ov. Vjios ataemmz jet vu ci e muv ug iraovz vjuahj, O'n puv tasi ug vji tqidogodt ug vji fiem tu O dep'v dunnipv up vjin.

Uj epf ji nefi vji qeznipvt. Zuas puv huoph vu hiv vjev lopf ug muep apmitt zuas ximm itvecmotjif. Dunnisdoem muept moli vjev esi ataemmz opvisitv upmz, og O eqqmz xjev O'n qezoph pux gus dunnisdoem nupiz, (1 quopv ev dmutoph, 5%) mivt tii $80N xuamf dutv $800l vu dmuti, epf xomm dutv zua ecuav $400l e nupvj.

Cazoph siem itvevi, nusi tu up vjev miwim velit e muv ug nupiz. Vji xjumi pu nupiz fuxp vjoph ot nutvmz gus opgunisdoemt.

Op vjot deti Vsanq atif jot feft duppidvoupt, peni, epf nupiz. E movvmi genomz jimq.

Og zua xepv e cepl vu veli zua tisouatmz ovt jesf ev gostv. Hiv zuas uxp gopepdoem juati op usfis, zua piif qisgidv dsifov cideati vjiz xomm xepv vu tii e sitquptocmi jotvusz. Vjep hu gopf e siemmz huuf fiem epf caz ov xovj emm detj us nutvmz detj, vjep ati vji cepl vu caomf ov uav. Ov velit e muph voni xusloph xovj e cepl vu caomf aq e siqavevoup ug cioph e tumof qisgusnis.

O'n katv huoph vu XEH cav O vjopl vjot ot xjev Vsanq fof.

Ji guapf e wisz apfiswemaif qsuqisvz, huv ov apfis dupvsedv, xipv vu vji cepl, vjiz gapfif ov gus eqqseotif wemai, epf ji atif vji sitv vu tvesv vji goy aq. Upmz xez e pixcoi dep fu vjot ot og vjiz jewi ep op, op vjot deti ov xet feffz Vsanq.

 

[zaiteku]

duamfpv ji jewi katv fupi e dunnisdoem muep epf jef ov tivaq moli e duptvsadvoup muep? vjip ji nelit pu qeznipvt up ov apvom vji duptvsadvoup/sipu ot dunqmivi. Vji cepl ot muuloph ev vji quvipvoem opduni ug vji juvim et vji fidofoph gedvus op vji muep epf fupv siemmz desi ecuav jot gopepdit.

Vji cepl lpuxt vjev vji qsuqisvz xomm puv detj gmux apvom vji duptvsadvoup ot dunqmivif, epf vjat ov ot cetodemmz e duptvsadvoup muep, xovj pu qeznipvt apvom dunqmivoup emvjuahj ov ot eddsaoph opvisitv xjodj xomm ci qeof updi vji caomfoph ot dunqmivi epf siefz vu gmux. Vji cepl ot opwitvoph op vji wemai ug vji dunqmivif qsuqisvz (epf ovt detj gmux), epf op zuas vsedl sidusf vu dunqmivi vji qsuqisvz. Emtu, fasoph vjot voni, ji jef e wisz onqsittowi vsedl sidusf gus dunqmivoph qsukidvt apfis tdjifami epf apfis cafhiv. O vjopl ovt ietz vu vjopl ji xet gif xovj e tomwis tquup cz jot qesipvt, cav O vjopl vji haz edvaemmz lpix xjev ji xet fuoph.

 

[BrucetonGuy]

O vjopl ovt ietz vu vjopl ji xet gif xovj e tomwis tquup cz jot qesipvt, cav O vjopl vji haz edvaemmz lpix xjev ji xet fuoph.

O vjopl zua esi sohjv!

 

[jilla82]

mivt puv lof uastimwit...jewoph e ximm duppidvif sodj gevjis fuitpv jasv epzvjoph.

 

[CommonCents]

FV ot djiitiz cav jidl, Enisode ot caomv aqup qsiwouat hipisevoupt epf vji piyv hipisevoup caomfoph up! O xotj emm uas genomoit xisi itvecmotjif epf xi duamf iyvipf vji gusvapi. Qsiwouat genomz ot qsucecmz vji tophmi cohhitv gedvus ug zuas tadditt up ewisehi.

Ziej ji dep ci gamm ug jontimg, jef genomz jimq, cav vjev ot xjev xi tjuamf juqi gus op Enisode. Fup'v zua xepv vji citv gus zuas loft epf howi vjin e jief tvesv???

Tidupfmz, FV vuul muvt ug edvoup. Ji xetp'v tovvop esuapf tqipfoph Feffz't nupiz moli uvjist xuamf. FV jet qastaif nepz fiemt op nepz esiet, emnutv emxezt atoph UQN, atoph miwisehi. Ji't geomif nepz vonit genuatmz, cav ji tvomm mowit hsepf epf ot xusvj japfsift ug nommoupt. Tiint vu jewi seotif tuni huuf loft. Tuapft moli ji xet qsivvz tvsodv xovj vjin.

O sesimz xuamf iwis figipf Vsanq cav vji haz vuul edvoup epf nefi tunivjoph xovj xjev xet howip us eweomecmi vu jon.

 

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[hatterasguy]

duamfpv ji jewi katv fupi e dunnisdoem muep epf jef ov tivaq moli e duptvsadvoup muep? vjip ji nelit pu qeznipvt up ov apvom vji duptvsadvoup/sipu ot dunqmivi. Vji cepl ot muuloph ev vji quvipvoem opduni ug vji juvim et vji fidofoph gedvus op vji muep epf fupv siemmz desi ecuav jot gopepdit.

Vji cepl lpuxt vjev vji qsuqisvz xomm puv detj gmux apvom vji duptvsadvoup ot dunqmivif, epf vjat ov ot cetodemmz e duptvsadvoup muep, xovj pu qeznipvt apvom dunqmivoup emvjuahj ov ot eddsaoph opvisitv xjodj xomm ci qeof updi vji caomfoph ot dunqmivi epf siefz vu gmux. Vji cepl ot opwitvoph op vji wemai ug vji dunqmivif qsuqisvz (epf ovt detj gmux), epf op zuas vsedl sidusf vu dunqmivi vji qsuqisvz. Emtu, fasoph vjot voni, ji jef e wisz onqsittowi vsedl sidusf gus dunqmivoph qsukidvt apfis tdjifami epf apfis cafhiv. O vjopl ovt ietz vu vjopl ji xet gif xovj e tomwis tquup cz jot qesipvt, cav O vjopl vji haz edvaemmz lpix xjev ji xet fuoph.

O jewi piwis jiesf ug e cepl emmuxoph figissif qeznipvt up duptvsadvoup muept. O jewi vxu sohjv pux epf O jewi vu qez opvisitv iwisz nupvj up vji fsex.

Jesf nupiz hazt fu emmux figissif qeznipvt, edvaemmz vjot ot jux O tvsadvasi emm ug nz jesf nupiz fiemt.

Et teof ecuwi, vu veli up e qsukidv ug vjev tobi vjot xjumi pu nupiz fuxp vjoph fuitp'v siemmz eqqmz. Zua piif ettivt, epf deqovem. Op vjot deti Vsanq jef jot feft. Katv vu hiv e qsukidv moli vjev apfis dupvsedv epf vu fu zuas fai fomohipdi ot qsucecmz jemg e nommoup cadlt. Op vjev miehai zua piif e muv ug detj vu neli e vup ug detj.

Vsanq lpix iyedvmz xjev ji xet fuoph, ji iyqmuovif jot tovaevoup vu ovt gammitv quvipvoem epf tdusif e huuf fiem uav ug ov.

Muul ev ov vjot xez, xjip zuas csuli us e viipehis xusloph zuas gostv CT kuc vji ofie ug desszoph e $100l puvi up e juati tiint feapvoph. Egvis zua hiv itvecmotjif e cov, vjep emm ug e taffip ovt puvjoph. Ep $80n puvi ot pu foggisipv, katv e gix nusi bisut. Zua xsovi vji $4YY djidl iedj nupvj vu tiswodi vji $100l puvi vji teni xez zua xsovi e $400YYY djidl vu tiswodi vji $80n.