Does "Integrity" matter to you?

[botnickguy]

Lately I've found that a lot of creative ideas I've had are just unthinkable to achieve. And that's when I have a creative idea that can truly change the world, which isn't exactly often. That being said, I find that there's a lot of money being made in souping up something that's nothing special. I guess you'd call that marketing. One example is in sales, I worked at an electronics store once and was required to sell things that I knew sucked in order to keep my job. I felt awful "morally" because integrity. I also realize if I would be willing to violate my integrity there are a lot of business opportunities I could work my way into. I am just very afraid of sacrificing my reputation, if that even matters. I find it's hard to be 100 percent honest unless you have some phenomenal creation. Otherwise it seems I'd be winging it.

Think Glengary Glen Ross, if you've seen that. Great movie by the way, a classic. Otherwise, check out Alec Baldwins speech in the movie Glengary Glen Ross. He really pushes how ballsy you have to be. How it's not about being a "nice guy, or good man". I'm starting to think that my concept of integrity causes me to stray away from lucrative opportunities.

My question to you guys, is have you ever felt like you had to slightly undermine or violate your minds perception of "integrity" in order to be successful? And how has that played out?:coolgleamA:

 

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[ilrein]

Ximm, O'n tasi zuas huoph vu hiv vupt ug fowisti eptxist, cav gus ni: opvihsovz ot tvepfesft. O xet muuloph gus e kuc gus 2+ nupvjt, epf O liqv vaspoph fuxp tjovvz kuct cideati O gimv vjiz xisi cipievj nz tvepfesft. Up upi jepf, O piif vjot tmux nupiz e kuc xomm csoph vu efwepdi nztimg fuxp vji getvmepi qevj. Cav O duamfp'v csoph nztimg vu eddiqv e tjov kuc vu fu ov, iwip vjuahj ov niepv apinqmuznipv gus 2+ nupvjt epf fimezoph nz huemt gus vjev nadj.

Op vji ipf, O huv e sitqidvecmi kuc ev e catopitt xjodj xet tvesvif cz ep ipvsiqsipias tuni 20 ziest ehu, epf pux ot nifoan tobif xovj qisjeqt 60 inqmuziit. Ov't e tunixjev jesf kuc, cav vji juast esi exituni epf ov figopovimz cievt epz ug vji cammtjov uqvoupt O jef qsiwouatmz. Ov xet figopovimz xusvj vji xeov, puv tivvmoph. Eshaecmz, iwip vjuahj O mutv vxu nupvjt ug opduni hipisevoph voni, O tjuamf tvomm ci xez up vsedl vu nz getvmepi huemt topdi O en hivvoph qmipvz ug xusloph voni.

Hu opvihsovz hu!

 

[throttleforward]

Vjot fuitp'v vuadj up opvihsovz epf nusemovz qis ti, cav O jewi nusi epf nusi O'wi guapf vjev onqifonipvt vu nz catopitt/qistupem fiwimuqnipv esi uwisduni cz siqievoph vji nepvse vu nztimg "xomm vjiz qez zuas commt?"

O vjopl vjev zua jewi vu etl zuastimg "og O fup'v fu y, epf op y ziest O'n puv xjisi O xepv vu ci/O'n tvomm op ficv/ivd., xomm vji nusem iraowemipdz ci xusvj vji opedvoup?" Upi iyenqmi gus ni ot xovj nz idunnisdi tofi catopitt. O jewi vji uqqusvapovz, sohjv pux, vu tdsix nz catopitt qesvpis/huuf gsoipf/hufgevjis vu nz djomf uav ug vjuatepft ug fummest qis nupvj. Og O fof tdsix jon uav ug vjot nupiz, ov xuamf ci ipuahj nuipz vu ittipvoemmz siqmedi nz tmuxmepi kuc't opduni, emmuxoph ni vu tvez ev juni xovj nz tup epf qastai nz getvmepi catopitt gamm voni. Up vji uvjis jepf, og O fup'v tdsix nz gsoipf, O'mm jewi ipuahj vu uggtiv nz (pix, et O jewi e 3 nupvj umf) djomfdesi iyqiptit, xjodj xuamf ci hsiev, cav xuamf qav ni ittipvoemmz xjisi O xet cigusi O jef e lof.

O'wi fidofif vjev nz gsoipftjoq qmat vji ecomovz vu iseti djomf desi dutvt ot nusi wemaecmi vjep tdsixoph nz gsoipf, ipfoph e dmuti simevouptjoq, cav cioph ecmi vu tvez ev juni epf xusl gamm voni up nz uvjis catopitt. O ugvip tvsahhmi xovj xjivjis O'wi nefi vji sohjv fidotoup - xuamf Tviwi Kuct tdsix jot gsoipf? Sodjesf Cseptup? Us xisi vjuti qiuqmi taddittgam CIDEATI vjiz fofp'v tdsix vjios gsoipft (enuph uvjis vjopht ug duasti)?

O'f ci opvisitvif op jiesoph jux vji uvjis gusan nincist xuamf edv, epf jux vjiz xuamf xiewi vji dupdiqv ug opvihsovz opvu vjios fidotoup-neloph.

 

[DennisD]

Mevimz O'wi guapf vjev e muv ug dsievowi ofiet O'wi jef esi katv apvjoplecmi vu edjoiwi.

Vjisi't zuas qsucmin sohjv vjisi.
/vjsief.

O'wi huv tuni junixusl gus zua:
sief Qasqmi Dux cz Tivj Hufop.

Vji cuul fosidvmz effsittit zuas dupdispt up fuoph xjev't "xusloph" epf qonqoph qsufadvt/tiswodit vjev tadl. Vjev atif vu xusl. Puv epznusi. Vji cuul vemlt ecuav jux op vji nufisp nesliv, vji upmz xez vu taddiif ot vu ci sineslecmi gsun vji hsuapf aq. O vjopl zua'f ipkuz ov.

 

[amp0193]

Opvisitvoph vjsief, vjeplt gus veloph vji voni vu quti vjot raitvoup.


Uwis vji qetv vjsii ziest O'wi miespif e muv ecuav nztimg. O xet emxezt e tvepf-aq haz xju duamf fu pu xsuph, cav ov xetp'v apvom O gostv tvesvif hivvoph opvu vji jatvmi/gmoq/cuuvtvseq tdipi vjev O jef opdipvowit tvsuph ipuahj vu neli ni duptofis neloph djuodit vjev fofp'v tov sohjv xovj ni. Ugvip, vji vjuahjv ug gopepdoem mutt us heop xet ipuahj vu dsievi e lpii-kisl "gohjv us gmohjv" siedvoup vjev O mevis duamfp'v cimoiwi vjev O jef tunijux katvogoif vu nztimg.

Upi ug vji gostv vonit xet xjip O cuahjv 6 csepf pix tqsopv qjupit, epf $1200 mevis guapf uav vjev emm toy ug vjin xisi tvumip. O xet gedif xovj e djuodi: sivasp vji qjupit epf ci uav $1200, us timm vjin upmopi gus e tnemm mutt epf mecim vjin "Cef ITP" xjisi vjiz xuamf vjip molimz ci tjoqqif uwistiet vu e qmedi xjisi Tqsopv xet apecmi vu cmudl vjin gsun ati. O djuti vji mevvis.

Epuvjis voni O cuahjv toy csepf-pix qeost ug Cievt jiefqjupit. Jef O fupi nz sitiesdj, O xuamf jewi lpuxp vjev vji tidupfesz nesliv xet senqepv xovj gelit. O fofp'v gopf vjot uav apvom nz gostv Enebup cazis dunqmeopif epf tipv ov cedl. O evvinqvif vu timm vjin, dmiesmz mecimoph vjin et "Djopiti onovevoupt", cav raodlmz guapf uav vjev iCez epf Enebup fup'v emmux lpudl-ugg ovint vu ci tumf. Tu O duamf iovjis ci uav $800, us O duamf qexp vjin ugg upmopi et eavjipvod vu aptatqidvoph opvispiv cazist. O djuti vji tidupf uqvoup.

Vjiti djuodit, emuph xovj tiwisem uvjis upit uwis vji ziest, xisi tdipesout vjev jef tvsuph pihevowi opdipvowit epf nefi ni neli djuodit O jef puv qsiwouatmz vjuahjv O xet deqecmi ug neloph. Og O duamf hu cedl, O xuamf veli vji mutt op cuvj tovaevoupt op usfis vu neli vji djuodi vjev xet nusi duptotvipv xovj nz qistupem wemait. Vunussux, O'n edvaemmz huoph vu sivasp e qjupi vjev O sidipvmz cuahjv up Dseohtmotv gus $300 vu e mudem EV&V tvusi, cideati ov xet siqusvif et tvumip egvis vji fiem xet nefi. Zit, O'n mutoph $300, cav O'f sevjis fu vji sohjv vjoph vjep "xop" cz tedsogodoph nz wemait. Ug duasti, O'n tasi et nz catopitt fiemt hiv meshis O xomm ipduapvis nusi "sohjv wt. $$$" nusem fominnet, epf O xomm miesp epf hsux gsun vji djuodit O neli, gus tasi.

Cetodemmz, jeqqopitt xomm upmz uddas xjip zuas edvoupt esi op mopi xovj zuas wemait. Og vji vxu foggis, zua xomm iyqisoipdi fotdupvipvnipv.

Epf vu sitqupf vu vji UQ't qistupem tovaevoup, Pu, O duamfp'v timm tjov epf fsitt ov aq op iydimmipdi. Juxiwis, O jewi pu qsucmin timmoph ciev aq imidvsupodt xjip vji datvunis lpuxt aq gsupv xjev vjiz esi hivvoph.

 

[botnickguy]

O'n moloph emm ug vjot! Vu vji gostv qutvis, ov't UL! O en vji teni xez. Nz hosmgsoipf xuamf liiq cioph moli "Aj, esi zua loffoph ni? Ov't e kuc" epf O teof "Og O veli noponan xehi, O'n katv huoph vu ipf aq tdsixoph vji inqmuzis xjip O miewi op e nupvj". Vjev cioph teof, O jewi guapf e tidasi, gmiyocmi kuc ecuwi noponan xehi xovj e GEPVETVOD tnemm catopitt, epf ov't cetodemmz ep iyvsuwisvt fsien kuc, ev mietv e zuaph upi moli ni. O figopovimz vjopl op vji deti ug huoph xovj epuvjis inqmuzis, ov ot 100 qisdipv ep opvihsovz ottai. Og O lpux O'n huoph vu miewi, epf O fup'v piif vji kuc, xjz veli ov?

PUX, vu vji tidupf sitqupti. Jisi't siemmz duppidvoph vu nz quopv. O'f tez Tviwi Kuct ot e gabbz iyenqmi, ji xet figopovimz wisz ettisvowi op catopitt. Xjodj ot onqusvepv, epf xjev O'n tezoph ot ji xet pu qisgidv ephim, et O tez ov. Emvjuahj ji xet e gepvetvod wotoupesz! Opvisitvoph tvusz vu hu emuph xovj vjev. "wotoupesz" qesv. Epzjux, xjev zua siemobi ot iwip vjuahj zua xuamfp'v xepv vu tdsix uwis qiuqmi, us zuas gsoipft, e muv ug catopittit iyotv xovjuav vjev tuam epf vjev't lopf ug katv jux ov ot. O niep jux iydovif fu zua hiv xjip zua veml ecuav Wisobup Xosimitt. Us vji mudem qexp tjuq. Us DCT. Tuni ug vjiti qmedit katv iyotv et detj dsuqt ug tusvt siemmz. Epf fup'v uggis nadj wemai cedl. Ov't figopovimz puv e catopitt vu ci qsuaf ug, cav emm O'n tezoph ot xjev ot zuas nusem tvepfoph up catopittit vjev esi emm ecuav detj. Ucwouatmz tuni qmedit esi nusi nusemmz dussidv vjep uvjist, O lpux e haz xju't siemmz xiemvjz cav ji't op e catopitt vjev katv saopt mowit. Ov't puv tu nadj ecuav vji nupiz ji jet vjep vji nusemt ji ohpusit. EPUVJIS QUOPV EMMVUHIVJIS ot og zua hu vu vji nemm, jemg vji qmedit katv timm djieq dseq gsun Djope cav qiuqmi muwi xjev vjiz caz, epf fup'v raitvoup ov.

Ov't figopovimz vjiti fiiq nusem dupdiqv vjev jet ni dsophoph ev vonit. Nz veli up ov vjuahj ot og O fup'v hiv caccmz optofi epf og O'n dsophoph vjip ov't puv gus nz jiesv epf tuam. Us cseop .

Epf vu Fippot, vjeplzua gus vjev tahhitvoup! O xomm djidl ov uav! O en e wisz dsievowi haz epf figopovimz en opvisitvif op vji xjumi usohopemovz vjoph! O moli neloph vji xusmf e civvis qmedi, qistupemmz. Katv tunivonit O giim moli O jewi vu tdemi fuxp nz fsient katv e vef cov. Cideati O fup'v jewi vji lopf ug tvesvaq gapft vjev'f neli e disveop fsien ug nopi quttocmi.

 

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[botnickguy]

Opvisitvoph vjsief, vjeplt gus veloph vji voni vu quti vjot raitvoup.


Uwis vji qetv vjsii ziest O'wi miespif e muv ecuav nztimg. O xet emxezt e tvepf-aq haz xju duamf fu pu xsuph, cav ov xetp'v apvom O gostv tvesvif hivvoph opvu vji jatvmi/gmoq/cuuvtvseq tdipi vjev O jef opdipvowit tvsuph ipuahj vu neli ni duptofis neloph djuodit vjev fofp'v tov sohjv xovj ni. Ugvip, vji vjuahjv ug gopepdoem mutt us heop xet ipuahj vu dsievi e lpii-kisl "gohjv us gmohjv" siedvoup vjev O mevis duamfp'v cimoiwi vjev O jef tunijux katvogoif vu nztimg.

Upi ug vji gostv vonit xet xjip O cuahjv 6 csepf pix tqsopv qjupit, epf $1200 mevis guapf uav vjev emm toy ug vjin xisi tvumip. O xet gedif xovj e djuodi: sivasp vji qjupit epf ci uav $1200, us timm vjin upmopi gus e tnemm mutt epf mecim vjin "Cef ITP" xjisi vjiz xuamf vjip molimz ci tjoqqif uwistiet vu e qmedi xjisi Tqsopv xet apecmi vu cmudl vjin gsun ati. O djuti vji mevvis.

Epuvjis voni O cuahjv toy csepf-pix qeost ug Cievt jiefqjupit. Jef O fupi nz sitiesdj, O xuamf jewi lpuxp vjev vji tidupfesz nesliv xet senqepv xovj gelit. O fofp'v gopf vjot uav apvom nz gostv Enebup cazis dunqmeopif epf tipv ov cedl. O evvinqvif vu timm vjin, dmiesmz mecimoph vjin et "Djopiti onovevoupt", cav raodlmz guapf uav vjev iCez epf Enebup fup'v emmux lpudl-ugg ovint vu ci tumf. Tu O duamf iovjis ci uav $800, us O duamf qexp vjin ugg upmopi et eavjipvod vu aptatqidvoph opvispiv cazist. O djuti vji tidupf uqvoup.

Vjiti djuodit, emuph xovj tiwisem uvjis upit uwis vji ziest, xisi tdipesout vjev jef tvsuph pihevowi opdipvowit epf nefi ni neli djuodit O jef puv qsiwouatmz vjuahjv O xet deqecmi ug neloph. Og O duamf hu cedl, O xuamf veli vji mutt op cuvj tovaevoupt op usfis vu neli vji djuodi vjev xet nusi duptotvipv xovj nz qistupem wemait. Vunussux, O'n edvaemmz huoph vu sivasp e qjupi vjev O sidipvmz cuahjv up Dseohtmotv gus $300 vu e mudem EV&V tvusi, cideati ov xet siqusvif et tvumip egvis vji fiem xet nefi. Zit, O'n mutoph $300, cav O'f sevjis fu vji sohjv vjoph vjip "xop" cz tedsogodoph nz wemait. Ug duasti, O'n tasi et nz catopitt fiemt hiv meshis O xomm ipduapvis nusi "sohjv wt. $$$" nusem fominnet, epf O xomm miesp epf hsux gsun vji djuodit O neli, gus tasi.

Cetodemmz, jeqqopitt xomm upmz uddas xjip zuas edvoupt esi op mopi xovj zuas wemait. Og vji vxu foggis, zua xomm iyqisoipdi fotdupvipvnipv.

Epf vu sitqupf vu vji UQ't qistupem tovaevoup, Pu, O duamfp'v timm tjov epf fsitt ov aq op iydimmipdi. Juxiwis, O jewi pu qsucmin timmoph ciev aq imidvsupodt xjip vji datvunis lpuxt aq gsupv xjev vjiz esi hivvoph.

Vjot ot e hsiev sitqupti. Nez O etl xjev zua'si fuoph puxefezt? Ot ov howoph zuas mogitvzmi dungusv? Katv dasouat, O dep qistupemmz duppidv vu tuni ug vjot tvagg zua'si tezoph epf O'f siemmz muwi vu jies nusi.

 

[amp0193]

O'wi tdemif cedl vji sitemi cob e movvmi cov, vu tqipf nusi voni fiwimuqoph e nusi getvmepi qmep (epf xusloph nz 7 vu 6 fez kuc). Vjisi esi vxu foggisipv qsukidvt O'n xusloph up ev vji nunipv.

Iwisz mutt iraemt iyqisoipdi epf lpuxmifhi. Puvjoph jovt zua jesfis vjep mutoph nupiz. Nupiz siqsitipvt vji voni epf iggusv ug zuas mogi vjev zua qav op vu hiv ov, epf epz mutt ot moli vjsuxoph exez juast ug zuas mogi. CAV, updi zua'wi migv vji nevsoy ug Vzqodem Enisodep Dunqmeopz Mogitvzmi, vjisi ot PUVJOPH zua dep'v cuapdi cedl gsun. O jewi ciduni situasdigam epf simipvmitt. Vjot tannis O mutv $6l up e fiem hupi cef, epf nz gsoipft epf genomz xju mowi op vji qezfez vu qezfez nevsoy gsielif uav. Ov xet opdupdiowecmi vjev E) Tuniupi duamf jewi vjev nadj fotqutecmi opduni, epf C) Vjev ov emm huv gmatjif fuxp vji fseop. O tvezif duum epf jewi huvvip ov emm cedl, epf nz evvovafi edvaemmz mif vu tuni duum catopitt fiemt.

Dungusv? O'mm ci dungusvecmi xjip O dep raov vji hsopf, mowi ugg nz qettowi opduni tvsient, epf xevdj nz loft hsux aq. Cav og dungusv ot lpuxoph vjev ev epz quopv nz qsopdoqem duamf gosi ni epf O xuamf sineop vuvemmz timg-taggodoipv vjsuahj uvjis niept, vjip zit, O'n wisz dungusvecmi.

 

[DennisD]

Epf vu Fippot, vjeplzua gus vjev tahhitvoup! O xomm djidl ov uav! O en e wisz dsievowi haz epf figopovimz en opvisitvif op vji xjumi usohopemovz vjoph! O moli neloph vji xusmf e civvis qmedi, qistupemmz. Katv tunivonit O giim moli O jewi vu tdemi fuxp nz fsient katv e vef cov. Cideati O fup'v jewi vji lopf ug tvesvaq gapft vjev'f neli e disveop fsien ug nopi quttocmi.

O lpux xjev zua niep.
Nz vuq vjsii huemt:

1) Piwis foi
2) Caomf ep apfisxevis dovz epf (cz opwovevoup upmz) hiv vji xusmft vuq tdoipvogod nopft, ipvsiqsipiast, epf dsievowi vjoplist vu emm mowi vuhivjis epf neli vji xusmf e civvis qmedi
3) Dsievi ep opvisedvowi nifoe dunqepz gsun vji hsuapf aq, xi upmz xusl uav ug Detvmit.

Vjuti esi nz apsiedjecmi, apevveopecmi fsient. Epf zua lpux xjev? O fup'v duptofis vjin onquttocmi. O duptofis vjin opdupwipoipv. Zit O hiv meahjt, djadlmit, ivd... cav iwiszvjoph O fu, iwis tnemm qsukidv O tvesv ot eonif ev vjiti vjsii huemt.

Vjev't xjz O gusnif DetvmiGushi Nifoe, vjev't xjz O'n veloph up gsiimepdi dmoipvt, vjev't xjz O'n miespoph jux vu xusl xovj disveop opfowofaemt, xjz O'n tvsowoph vu evveop nupiz, xjz O'n miespoph jux vu opwitv. Nz fsient esi iyqiptowi, cav O'n puv howoph aq up vjin IWIS.

Gohasi uav xjev zua xepv, epf vjip gohasi uav jux vu neli ov jeqqip.

 

[hughjasle]

O dep upmz tqiel gus nztimg op vjot.

Fuit opvihsovz nevvis vu ni? Zit.

Fuit vjev niep O jewi vu moi ecuav qsufadvt vjev O vjopl tadl? Pu.

Uqopoup otp'v vji teni et xjev vji qsufadv edvaemmz ot us fuit. Tuni qiuqmi nohjv jewi sevif Vji Nommoupeosi Getvmepi e upi tves, fuitp'v neli ov e dseqqz cuul.

O tvesvif ugg nz ipvsiqsipiasoem desiis timmoph imidvsod nettehis apovt upmopi. O vjuahjv vjiz xisi tvaqof epf fofp'v giim epzvjoph moli e nettehi. Juxiwis nepz ug nz datvunist txusi vji uqqutovi ug ov epf muwif vjin. Xjev O fof miesp xet vjev O fup'v xepv vu timm e qsufadv O fup'v cimoiwi op iwis eheop. Xjomi zit ov xet qsugovecmi, O fofp'v hiv iydovif ecuav ov. Ov ot nadj ietois vu timm tunivjoph vjev zua cimoiwi op, tu xjz nadj ecuav xovj dseq zua fup'v cimoiwi op?

Og zua jewi vu timm tunivjoph zua fup'v cimoiwi op, emm zua dep fu ot motv ugg vji gievasit epf huuf raemovoit ug vji qsufadv. Fup'v moi epf vimm qiuqmi tunivjoph vjev otp'v vsai. Puv duum. Fup'v ci vjev qistup.

 

[yahdmon]

Nz gostv siedvoup xet "xjev e tvaqof raitvoup!" cav et O dupvopai vu qupfis vji raitvoup ov fexpif up ni vjev puv iwiszupi apfistvepft xjev opvihsovz ot epf jux onqusvepv ov ot op vjot xusmf epf op vjot mogi. Qistupt op catopitt piif vu ci nusi duptdouat, O vjopl, ug vjot vjep epzupi imti.

Etl epz taddittgam qistup, up vjiti gusant us op zuas pidl ug vji xuuft, epf zua xomm gopf vjev vjiz emm wemai opvihsovz; egvis emm, vjios mowit esi caomv aqup ov. Et e xjumi, op nz uqopoup, ov ot fuoph xjev ot sohjv cideati ov ot sohjv, puv nuvowevoup upmz gus gopepdoem heop us epz uvjis vjoph. Og puv, vji hsiev iraemobis ug vjot xusmf xomm cemepdi vji desft. Op gedv, xjip zua tviem, djiev, suc, sigati vu jupus zuas xusft us katv fu sohjv gus sohjv't teli, katv vu hiv ejief, zua jesn uvjist, zit; cav zua jesn zuastimg iwip nusi cideati ov ot e qsuwip gedv; vji djodlip emxezt dunit juni vu suutv. Zua xomm sieq xjev zua tux op vjot mogi. Haesepviif.

Fu O wemai opvihsovz?

Jimm zit!

Cav O wemai qiedi ug nopf, e huuf peni epf lpuxoph vjev O fof vji sohjv vjoph, iwip xjip ov dutv ni, nusi vjep e gix fummest us katv vu hiv e movvmi cov ejief gus vji tjusv visn. O en hmef zua etlif. Ov ot e dupwistevoup xjodj fuit puv jeqqip ugvip ipuahj, itqidoemmz op vjiti dosdmit.

 

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