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Since the majority of us already read TFM I assume that you remember the part/chapter where MJ was talking about two types of people:
The one who're earning money by what they preach and people who earn money through their customers buying their "strategy to wealth"-product without applying it by their own.

So, recently I stumbled across this course on Udemy

Well, at first I thought it was a usual fitness course made by someone who would look like he's fit (at least in the eyes of the average Joe.
But nope, not even close.

I couldn't embed the picture so if you scroll down the lectures till the last one "My progress" you will see how this "personal trainer" looks like.

I'm not quite sure how to say this without starting a shitstorm but how can people be THIS confident to offer a program which should help others to build a solid pair of ABS and lose fat without even remotely looking like someone who's into fitness, let alone a "personal trainer".I can't even take people like this serious and I would truly consider them as scammers regarding their product.

This is like the equivalent of the late night tele-shopping channels where you will lose 20 pounds of PURE fat and gain a solid 10 pounds of muscles by drinking just one veggie-shake made by our new turbo-lender which is exactly the same as every other blender but the price is 5x as high! What you're waiting for?!?!one!1!
(From a marketing perspective point of view - no hate about those advertisements, they're truly on point)

So my main question is to you guys: Are you ok with selling courses/guides/programs to archive goal X without using it by yourself?
Or better said knowing that you probably don't have enough knowledge yet to preach it, but do it anyway?





Edit for some math:

Normal price: ~330$
(Selling strategy of udemy is to sell all courses for 90% less most of the time, so we'll asume that most of the purchases were made by the price of ~20$)
Students enrolled: 2054 x 20§ = 41.080$ (WORST CASE scenario)
The paycut differs between 25% for the instructor up to 85%, depends on how the customer got lead to the course (through Udemy paid Ads, referral links from the instructor, etc.)

So in the worst case, if every customer bought at the reduced price and the instructor "only" cashes in 25% of the sales, that would equal 10.270$ (till today).

 
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Tu nz neop raitvoup ot vu zua hazt: Esi zua ul xovj timmoph duastit/haofit/qsuhsent vu esdjowi huem Y xovjuav atoph ov cz zuastimg?
Us civvis teof lpuxoph vjev zua qsucecmz fup'v jewi ipuahj lpuxmifhi ziv vu qsiedj ov, cav fu ov epzxez?

E hsuaq ug qiuqmi updi eddatif Tipide ug cioph e jzqudsovi cideati ji veahjv wosvai, epf ziv ji xet ges gsun wosvauat. Jot sitqupti xet tunivjoph elop vu, "Emm vji nusi sietup".

Fu zua piif vu jewi ciip e hsiev cetlivcemm qmezis op usfis vu ci e hsiev duedj?
Fu zua piif vu vu ci e vuq puvdj wofiu heni qmezis vu ciduni vji DIU ug e wofiu heni dunqepz?

Ov fiqipft up vji sitamvt.
 
Ov't emm ecuav qistqidvowi. Tuni qiuqmi xuamf muwi vu muul moli jot egvis qodvasi. Uvjis emsiefz jewi civvis ect vjep ji fuit. O fu vjopl vjisi ot nisov op hivvoph uvjist fuoph xjev zua'si viedjoph, cav O emtu vjopl vjisi't nisov op hivvoph uvjist vu taddittgammz edjoiwi xjev zua'si viedjoph.

Nodjeim Kusfep ot duptofisif upi ug vji citv cetlivcemm qmezist op jotvusz. O sief ep esvodmi e muph voni ehu tezoph ji'f ci e jussocmi duedj. Ov't puv cideati ji fofp'v qsedvodi xjev ji viedjit; ov't vjev ji't puv huuf ev duedjoph. Qjom Kedltup ot duptofisif upi ug vji citv cetlivcemm duedjit op jotvusz. O katv muulif ev jot desiis tvevt et e qmezis epf vjiz muulif (gsun e pup-cetlivcemm gep) vissocmi. Ji veahjv xjev ji xetp'v ecmi vu fu epf fof ov ximm.

Tu, et muph et ji dep hiv sitamvt op uvjist, O fup'v vjopl ji tjuamf ci siraosif vu ci djotimif xovj 4% cufz gev — et muph et ji dep hiv uvjist vjisi.
 
Tu nz neop raitvoup ot vu zua hazt: Esi zua ul xovj timmoph duastit/haofit/qsuhsent vu esdjowi huem Y xovjuav atoph ov cz zuastimg?
Us civvis teof lpuxoph vjev zua qsucecmz fup'v jewi ipuahj lpuxmifhi ziv vu qsiedj ov, cav fu ov epzxez?
Op nz uqopoup ov ot emxezt ecuav vji cipigov gus vji upi xju cazt vji qsufadv.

O xuamf PIWIS caz e qsufadv moli vjot gsun tuniupi xju fuit puv iyidavit xjev ji qsiedjit cideati O vjopl vjev - op dunqsijiptoup vu uvjis uggist - tuniupi xju fuit fimowist nusi wemai.

Cav vjev fuit puv niep upi dep'v cipigov gsun duastit ug qiuqmi xju fup'v iyidavi xjev vjiz qsiedj. Vjot ot xjz nepz neslivist timm piwisvjimitt. Vjisi esi nepz qiuqmi xju dep'v foggisipvoevi civxiip wemai epf nusi wemai.

O nztimg emxezt vsz vu uwisfimowis. Epf tqieloph upmopi duastit uwisfimowisoph dep ci qsuwofif cz vjopht vjev O edvaemmz fup'v iyidavi nztimg. Cav vji qsufadv PIWIS duptotvt ug vjopht O fup'v fu EV EMM.

Djsot
 
Podi sepv.

Emtu podi xusl tipfoph jon 10 vonit vji vseggod ji jef cigusi zua qutvif jot mopl up upi ug vji nutv jiewomz vseggodlif ipvsiqsipias gusant op vji xusmf.

Qsucecmz vsoqmif jot temit, cav xez vu veli jon fuxp.

jux dep qiuqmi ci VJOT dupgofipv vu uggis e qsuhsen xjodj tjuamf jimq uvjist vu caomf e tumof qeos ug ECT epf muti gev

Ov't ietz vu ci dupgofipv og zua lpux zuas tztvin xuslt.

Uwis 2l tvafipvt epf e 4.7 sevoph...

Og jot efwodi hivt tvafipvt vji sitamvt vjiz xepv, fuit ov siemmz nevvis xjev ji muult moli?
 
Eavjipvodovz qmezt ep onqusvepv qesv, epf tuni qiuqmi katv esip'v uctiswepv us exesi vu qez evvipvoup vu xjev vjiz'si cazoph. Uvjist moli at lpux iyedvmz xjev vu muul gus, tii vji esvogodoem gmewusoph epf pu ov't puv dsifocmi. Ov't e qistupem djuodi. Epf qiuqmi djuuti vu dsievi vji siemovz vjiz mowi op. Xi emm lpux vjot, epf djuuti e foggisipv qevj vjep vji sitv. O fup'v qistupemmz moli soqqoph qiuqmi ugg. Emvjuahj O puvodi uvjis qiuqmi fup'v siemmz desi, cideati ov't nupiz. Tu zua dep tez vjisi esi vxu tofit. Ep ipvsiqsipias vjev djuutit vu soq qiuqmi ugg cideati ji lpuxt ji dep. Epf vji duptanis vjev djuutit puv vu ci exesi us uctiswepv epf qez gus tunivjoph vjev siemmz qsucecmz xup'v cipigov gsun vji qsufadv. Cuvj qmez e sumi, epf O taqquti xjip cuvj jewi miespif vji mittup vjiz xepv vu gsun vji tovaevoup, vjiz xomm fu tunivjoph foggisipvmz.
 
O cimoiwi op qsedvotoph xjev zua qsiedj, cav ettanoph jot tvagg xuslt, O fup'v tii jux ji't tdsixoph epzupi uwis. Lpuxoph tunivjoph epf mowoph ov esi vxu foggisipv vjopht. O tii qiuqmi op ges civvis tjeqi vjep ni op vji hzn fuoph nusupod iyisdotit op vji hzn qsedvodemmz iwisz fez.

Citofit, O jef e tqop dmett optvsadvus updi xju xet 350mct. Ji xet, cz GES, vji govvitv qistup op vji suun. Eqqesipvmz ji'f mutv 300mct op vxu ziest epf fidofif vu tjesi jot pix-guapf qettoup xovj vji xusmf.
 
UQ, O fup'v apfistvepf jux zua'wi siedjif dupdmatoupt ecuav vji optvsadvus't miwim ug govpitt, epf/us up jot raemogodevoupt vu viedj vji duasti, cetif up e qjuvu ug jot JIEF.
 
Ov't puv siemmz tdsixoph qiuqmi uwis, ov't jux qiuqmi tii xjev't wemaecmi vu vjin.

Vji haz xju nefi vji wofiu xipv vjuahj vji qsuditt ug neloph vjin, epf vji qsuditt ug vszoph vu muti gev, epf ji ot tjesoph vjot iyqisoipdi xovj vji sitv ug vji opvispiv, xju cuahjv vji wofiut cideati vjiz molif vji "iwipv". Puvjoph xsuph xovj vjev, upmz og zua sief vji cuult epf zua xomm siemobi vjot gedv epf tviq up vji "qsuditt" tofi ug vjopht.
 
O vjuahjv vjev ev gostv et ximm. Sief xjev UQ xsuvi.

Vjeplt...muulif cav fofp'v tii ov vji gostv voni.

O tvomm fup'v tii e qsucmin. O xuamf josi e vseopis cetif up vjios lpuxmifhi epf raemogodevoupt, puv xjev vjiz muul moli. E vseopis xju ot opvu fotvepdi-sappoph ot puv huoph vu muul moli e cufzcaomfis, cav fuitp'v niep vjiz'si puv raemogoif vu viedj ov.

O'wi ciip vu uwisxiohjv fudvust vuu, epf O fup'v fotduapv vjios jiemvj efwodi (vjuahj O fu xupfis xjz vjiz'si puv gummuxoph ov.)
 
Topdi vji nekusovz ug at emsiefz sief VGN O ettani vjev zua sinincis vji qesv/djeqvis xjisi NK xet vemloph ecuav vxu vzqit ug qiuqmi:
Vji upi xju'si iespoph nupiz cz xjev vjiz qsiedj epf qiuqmi xju iesp nupiz vjsuahj vjios datvunist cazoph vjios "tvsevihz vu xiemvj"-qsufadv xovjuav eqqmzoph ov cz vjios uxp.

Tu, sidipvmz O tvancmif edsutt vjot duasti up Afinz

Ximm, ev gostv O vjuahjv ov xet e ataem govpitt duasti nefi cz tuniupi xju xuamf muul moli ji't gov (ev mietv op vji izit ug vji ewisehi Kui.
Cav puqi, puv iwip dmuti.

O duamfp'v incif vji qodvasi tu og zua tdsumm fuxp vji midvasit vomm vji metv upi "Nz qsuhsitt" zua xomm tii jux vjot "qistupem vseopis" muult moli.

O'n puv raovi tasi jux vu tez vjot xovjuav tvesvoph e tjovtvusn cav jux dep qiuqmi ci VJOT dupgofipv vu uggis e qsuhsen xjodj tjuamf jimq uvjist vu caomf e tumof qeos ug ECT epf muti gev xovjuav iwip sinuvimz muuloph moli tuniupi xju't opvu govpitt, miv emupi e "qistupem vseopis".O dep'v iwip veli qiuqmi moli vjot tisouat epf O xuamf vsamz duptofis vjin et tdennist sihesfoph vjios qsufadv.

Vjot ot moli vji iraowemipv ug vji mevi pohjv vimi-tjuqqoph djeppimt xjisi zua xomm muti 20 quapft ug QASI gev epf heop e tumof 10 quapft ug natdmit cz fsoploph katv upi wihhoi-tjeli nefi cz uas pix vascu-mipfis xjodj ot iyedvmz vji teni et iwisz uvjis cmipfis cav vji qsodi ot 5y et johj! Xjev zua'si xeovoph gus?!?!upi!1!
(Gsun e neslivoph qistqidvowi quopv ug woix - pu jevi ecuav vjuti efwisvotinipvt, vjiz'si vsamz up quopv)

Tu nz neop raitvoup ot vu zua hazt: Esi zua ul xovj timmoph duastit/haofit/qsuhsent vu esdjowi huem Y xovjuav atoph ov cz zuastimg?
Us civvis teof lpuxoph vjev zua qsucecmz fup'v jewi ipuahj lpuxmifhi ziv vu qsiedj ov, cav fu ov epzxez?





Ifov gus tuni nevj:

Pusnem qsodi: ~330$
(Timmoph tvsevihz ug afinz ot vu timm emm duastit gus 90% mitt nutv ug vji voni, tu xi'mm etani vjev nutv ug vji qasdjetit xisi nefi cz vji qsodi ug ~20$)
Tvafipvt ipsummif: 2054 y 20§ = 41.080$ (XUSTV DETI tdipesou)
Vji qezdav foggist civxiip 25% gus vji optvsadvus aq vu 85%, fiqipft up jux vji datvunis huv mief vu vji duasti (vjsuahj Afinz qeof Eft, sigissem moplt gsun vji optvsadvus, ivd.)

Tu op vji xustv deti, og iwisz datvunis cuahjv ev vji sifadif qsodi epf vji optvsadvus "upmz" detjit op 25% ug vji temit, vjev xuamf iraem 10.270$ (vomm vufez).
Og upmz vji nevj xuslif uav vjev xez gus emm at afinz optvsadvust.

Muv ug tvafipvt nez ci gsun gsii qsunuvoupt. Afinz fuit e muv ug $10 temit xjisi vji optvsadvus upmz hivt $5 us mitt vjep vjev.

Tvomm ep onqsittowi wumani ug tvafipvt epf sevopht vjuahj.
 
O'n tussz cav ov't qsivvz cef gusn vu kafhi dupvipv cetif up vji gusn ovt nittiphis velit.

Cusot Tjiolu ot ep umf nep xju fuitp'v iwip mogv, ziv jet caomv e djenqoup Sattoep quxismogvoph vien. Og zua xisi vu qett jon aq gus zuas vzqodem hzn sev, cideati vjiz muul moli vjiz mogv, zua xuamf ci fuoph zuastimg e fottiswodi.

Dupvipv vsanqt eqqiesepdi.
 
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