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Just be careful, after the most recent search update, Google is giving a lot less weight to low quality backlinks, and more weight to links from authoritative sites like NYTimes etc.. Time to get those press releases rolling!
 

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Just to play devils advocate here... there is no proof at all about what google has or hasn't devalued. From my large network (100+) test sites I've seen sites that took a nose dive that had no "grey" or "black" hat techniques used on them and sites that only used automated backlink building techniques not take a dive.

Sites like those in the list can be of use if used correctly (i.e. create an account and add to the conversation). A link cached in Googles Index is a link that counts. Just don't load up on one kind of link and you should be OK.

Disclaimer: I have not ability to know what the Google Gods will do next so take that last statement with a grain of salt. ;)
 

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@ihenman - you're right there isn't any hard data to support many of the claims being made by these "SEO experts" (too many ads above the fold - which is bs btw.. etc) I actually wrote a post calling many of these guys out a few weeks ago - Seriously Google WTF is a Content Farm?

However we do have some compelling internal data that clearly shows sites with many authoritative links from news sites were not hit, where as many blogs that were ranking well because of links from other non authoritative blogs saw a serious drop in traffic. Low quality links won't hurt you, but they won't help you as much as they used to either. Here is a great example of a site that was a victim of this effect - moneyning.com - Quantcast Audience Profile

At the end of the day, SEO is like everything else in business - it's all about looking for where you are going to get the greatest return on your investment, the investment being the time you put into link building. Getting a link from Bloomberg, CNBC or the New York Times is going to have a much greater impact on increasing the authority and credibility of your site which in the long run will lead to better rankings, regardless of how changes to the Google algorithm play out.
 
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@ihenman - you're right there isn't any hard data to support many of the claims being made by these "SEO experts" (too many ads above the fold - which is bs btw.. etc) I actually wrote a post calling many of these guys out a few weeks ago - Seriously Google WTF is a Content Farm?

However we do have some compelling internal data that clearly shows sites with many authoritative links from news sites were not hit, where as many blogs that were ranking well because of links from other non authoritative blogs saw a serious drop in traffic. Low quality links won't hurt you, but they won't help you as much as they used to either. Here is a great example of a site that was a victim of this effect - moneyning.com - Quantcast Audience Profile

At the end of the day, SEO is like everything else in business - it's all about looking for where you are going to get the greatest return on your investment, the investment being the time you put into link building. Getting a link from Bloomberg, CNBC or the New York Times is going to have a much greater impact on increasing the authority and credibility of your site which in the long run will lead to better rankings, regardless of how changes to the Google algorithm play out.

So what are some good ways to get the links from CNBC, Bloomberg, etc.?
 

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That could be a whole thread on it's own but basically you need to be seen as an "expert" in your niche by the press which sounds hard, but it's actually easier than you would think if you get some good press releases and find the right people to send them to. Then every time one of these sites writes about something relating to your niche they end up contacting you for a quote or your opinion and give a link to your site.

You can even become a contributor for some of these sites (like the Huffington Post), write your own articles with your own links - as long as you can get them past editorial.
 

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That could be a whole thread on it's own but basically you need to be seen as an "expert" in your niche by the press which sounds hard, but it's actually easier than you would think if you get some good press releases and find the right people to send them to. Then every time one of these sites writes about something relating to your niche they end up contacting you for a quote or your opinion and give a link to your site.

You can even become a contributor for some of these sites (like the Huffington Post), write your own articles with your own links - as long as you can get them past editorial.

I think I now understand how some stuff gets published by Huffington Post. lol Hmmm, I may need to look into this for both my projects.
 
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I'm really sure that the people who own those sites want your link spam.
 

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Do you have anything helpful to say here?

Do you? Or do you think that spamming your sites on other peoples' sites is okay? Are you that hard up for traffic? Do you have any idea how many man hours goes into cleaning up crap like that?
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong here, but wouldn't those DOFOLLOW sites only count if they were relevant to your site and/or keywords?
 

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I'm going to assume no. Its always surprising how many people will pop up to complain and offer no better alternative.

I would ignore him Knowledge, thanks for the helpful info.
 

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I'm going to assume no. Its always surprising how many people will pop up to complain and offer no better alternative.

I would ignore him Knowledge, thanks for the helpful info.

My guess is that you've never had to delete hundreds of fake posts in a single day, have you? I would also bet that you've never had to manually sort through thousands of new fake nicknames so you could delete the spammers on a messageboard either. That's what happens when people post lists like this. Suddenly people who are just trying to run a site or two are flooded with garbage.

The better alternative you seek is this: Build quality sites that people will naturally find and link to. In time, you will get traffic. Or, buy ad spots or try out PPC. Google AdSense can be very profitable if you experiment a bit. Perhaps you could hand out flyers or buy a newspaper ad. If you really want to get crazy you could make some YouTube videos or start a Podcast. There is NO need to pollute forums and blogs etc. with your sites.
 
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My guess is that you've never had to delete hundreds of fake posts in a single day, have you? I would also bet that you've never had to manually sort through thousands of new fake nicknames so you could delete the spammers on a messageboard either. That's what happens when people post lists like this. Suddenly people who are just trying to run a site or two are flooded with garbage.

The better alternative you seek is this: Build quality sites that people will naturally find and link to. In time, you will get traffic. Or, buy ad spots or try out PPC. Google AdSense can be very profitable if you experiment a bit. Perhaps you could hand out flyers or buy a newspaper ad. If you really want to get crazy you could make some YouTube videos or start a Podcast. There is NO need to pollute forums and blogs etc. with your sites.

Honestly, I've never run into that problem and never heard anyone complain about "too many comments". Why don't you invest in an automatic spam filter instead? Or simply make all comments on your blog "no follow"?

With all due respect even with your troubles it would still be foolish for any marketer to stop building back links via do follow blogs just because a few website owners don't like it. Don't you think?

I'd even go so far as to argue that "polluting forums and blogs" should be in every markets daily to do list.
 

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Honestly, I've never run into that problem and never heard anyone complain about "too many comments". Why don't you invest in an automatic spam filter instead? Or simply make all comments on your blog "no follow"?

With all due respect even with your troubles it would still be foolish for any marketer to stop building back links via do follow blogs just because a few website owners don't like it. Don't you think?

I'd even go so far as to argue that "polluting forums and blogs" should be in every markets daily to do list.

Because a FEW websites don't like it? What planet are you on?
 

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I never said to POLLUTE these sites. All I said was that they were dofollow, quality backlinks. If people on this forum visit these sites and leave valuable, quality feedback then what is the problem? To me that seems like a win-win because you are getting a good backlink while contributing to their site.

If I visit a blog and leave a thoughtful comment just so I can get a backlink, that's fine because I left a thoughtful comment. If I was just going to POLLUTE the site like you suggest then I would be wasting my time too, because I know that popular blogs and forums will just delete whatever I leave.

You're letting your negative past experiences ruin your judgement.
 
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