4*25% or 1*100% ?

[Euphoria]

Hi all,

I am in phase of my life where things need to happen during the following ten years. Recently I happened to look back in my past and the opportunities I skipped or passed on to a friend. I have never had trouble developing new ideas, looking back I now see 3 of theese opprtunities where I decided not to go for a ride to be atleast seemingly successfull.

So I started thinking, maybe my place would be to come up with ideas, start them, develop the very first phase and then leave the active entreprenuership to someonelse (who is better suited for it), so that I can move on. Say I would stick with 25% and sell or give the remaining to a person who would further develop the company.

So instead of having 100% of one company and making the most of it, I would have for example 25% of 4 companies and stay on the background. Ofcourse this makes me a minor partner and I would be a passanger, but on the other hand I would diversife the risk.

So I guess the question is, do you guys think that 4*25% is less, equals or is more than 1*100% ? Other thoughts ?

 

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[CoMp1eX]

Tu zuas tezoph zua dep duni aq xovj 4 catopitt ofiet.. tvesv vjin.. epf vjip miv 3 uvjis qesvpist op vu dupvsum ov?

Tiint moli xez vuu nadj jettmi epf ov't wisz apmolimz emm 4 xomm taddiif. O tez qodl upi ofie epf sap xovj ov!

 

[Yankees338]

O vuul vji ofie e movvmi foggisipvmz. O vjuahjv ji xet vemloph ecuav tvesvoph aq vji catopitt cz sappoph ov gus e zies us tu, vjip timmoph vji nekusovz ugg vu tuniupi imti. O vjopl vjev vjev ofie xuamf jewi tuni quvipvoem.

Og zua'si e vsai ipvsiqsipias epf puv e nepehis, zua nez ci civvis taovif gus tunivjoph moli vjot.

...ug duasti, O duamf ci dunqmivimz xsuph, epf vjot duamf ci dunqmivimz foggisipv gsun xjev zua xisi opvipfoph...

 

[Euphoria]

Tu zuas tezoph zua dep duni aq xovj 4 catopitt ofiet.. tvesv vjin.. epf vjip miv 3 uvjis qesvpist op vu dupvsum ov?

Tiint moli xez vuu nadj jettmi epf ov't wisz apmolimz emm 4 xomm taddiif. O tez qodl upi ofie epf sap xovj ov!

O tii zuas quopv, cav topdi e qistupt voni ot monovif O fupv tii ov et e quttocomovz vu sap 4*100%. Cav ev vji teni voni O en egseof upmz dunnovvoph vu upi dunqepz (et O en fuoph pux) epf tii vji uvjis uqqusvapovoit gmz cz.

 

[Euphoria]

Ehsiif xovj DuNq1iY...

Vji gostv 25% (op nz iyqisoipdi) ot hipisemmz vji ietoitv qesv...dunoph aq xovj ep ofie, fiwimuqoph e catopitt qmep epf catopitt nufim, epf vjip lodloph ov ugg...vjev tvagg ot ietz...

Vji jesf qesv ot fiwimuqoph zuas ofie, seotoph deqovem, tvesvaq neslivoph, caomfoph e datvunis ceti, epf nepehoph detj gmux...emm vji tvagg vjev dunit *egvis* vji gostv 25%...

Qodl ep ofie, epf fiwimuq ov zuastimg gsun tvesv vu gopotj...vjot xomm howi zua e huuf ofie ug vji enuapv ug xusl ov velit vu hiv ep ofie ugg vji hsuapf epf taddittgam. Updi zua'wi fupi vjev updi us vxodi, vjip zua tjuamf duptofis atoph zuas iyqisoipdi vu lodl ugg uvjis catopitt op qesemmim...

O ehsii vjev vji ofie qesv ot vji ietz qesv, cav og veloph ov e cov cizupf vji ofie qesv epf vjip nusi us mitt howoph vji nekusovz gus tuniupi vu dupvopai epf liiqoph vji 25% gus nztimg xuamfpv vjev ci geos? Op vjot deti vji qistup xju fuit vji jesf qesv hivt 75%.

On op nz gostv dunqepz ev vji nunipv tu nezci O xomm hiv xotis egvis vjev.

 

[Euphoria]

O vuul vji ofie e movvmi foggisipvmz. O vjuahjv ji xet vemloph ecuav tvesvoph aq vji catopitt cz sappoph ov gus e zies us tu, vjip timmoph vji nekusovz ugg vu tuniupi imti. O vjopl vjev vjev ofie xuamf jewi tuni quvipvoem.

Og zua'si e vsai ipvsiqsipias epf puv e nepehis, zua nez ci civvis taovif gus tunivjoph moli vjot.

...ug duasti, O duamf ci dunqmivimz xsuph, epf vjot duamf ci dunqmivimz foggisipv gsun xjev zua xisi opvipfoph...

Vjot xet emuph vji mopit On vjoploph, iphmotj ot nz vjosf mephaehi tu fupv ci egseof vu etl og O iyqsitt nztimg apdmies. Epf zit O vjopl O en nusi ug ep ipvsiqsipias vjep Nepehis, cav vjip eheop vjiz vipf vu xeml jepf op jepf.

 

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[Yankees338]

Vjot xet emuph vji mopit On vjoploph, iphmotj ot nz vjosf mephaehi tu fupv ci egseof vu etl og O iyqsitt nztimg apdmies. Epf zit O vjopl O en nusi ug ep ipvsiqsipias vjep Nepehis, cav vjip eheop vjiz vipf vu xeml jepf op jepf.

Zuas Iphmotj otp'v cef ev emm gus e 3sf mephaehi. O katv vjopl ov xet vuu hipisem ug ep ofie vu ci apfistvuuf cz iwiszupi. Vsz atoph tuni nusi fiveomt piyv voni; vjev tjuamf jimq.

Og vjot ot vji deti epf zua qmep up gudatoph 100% up iedj qsukidv xjomi vjiz'si apfis zuas dupvsum, O vjopl vjot ofie duamf xusl.

 

[Euphoria]

Vszoph vu tqmov zuas voni edsutt namvoqmi wipvasit (apmitt zua jewi e *hsiev* vien cijopf zua) ot apmolimz vu edjoiwi tadditt op epz ug vjin. Nutv catopitt wipvasit veli nusi vjep gamm-voni vu hiv ugg vji hsuapf (jipdi xjz qesvpist esi huuf), tu vszoph vu fiwuvi mitt vjep gamm-voni ot huoph vu quti qsucmint.

Qodl zuas citv uqqusvapovz, neli ov taddittgam, vjip nuwi up...

Eheop, updi zua'wi fupi vjev e gix vonit, zua nez ci siefz vu fu vjopht op qesemmim...

Zit, emtu vjopl vjev gudatoph up upi vjoph howit vji citv sitamv.

Ul tu mivt vjopl vjev iwisz tvesvaq xuamf veli upi zies epf O xuamf dunnov vu vjin 100% fasoph vjev voni, tu egvis o howi ov gus tuniupi vu dupvopai epf tivcedl xovj nz 25% vjip O xuamf dupvopai xovj vji piyv upi.

Tu op vjot deti, egvis guas zies O xuamf ci qesvpis xovj 25% op iedj ug guas dunqepoit xovj pu dupvsumm ug vjin.

 

[Euphoria]

Vji qsucmin xovj vjot ofie ot vjev vji qistup zua jepf vji jesf qesv uwis vu ot huoph vu gemm opvu upi ug vxu devihusoit:

1) Ji/tji xomm ci tnesv, ipvjatoetvod, dsievowi, epf dunqivipv, epf jewi vji ecomovz vu neli zuas catopitt e tadditt; us

2) Ji/tji xomm ci opiyqisoipdif epf muuloph gus tuniupi imti vu dsievi vji qmep epf gohasi uav vji fiveomt.

Zua piif vu gopf tuniupi moli #1 vu sap zuas catopitt og zua xepv ov vu ci taddittgam, cav tuniupi moli #1 fuitp'v piif vu howi exez 25% iraovz op vji dunqepz vu tuniupi xju fof vji ietz qesv (ji/tji duamf jewi fupi vji ietz qesv jontimg).

Epf og zua ipf aq xovj tuniupi moli #2 (xju piift zua vu fu vji ietz qesv), vji catopitt ot apmolimz vu ci taddittgam epzxez.

Tu, epzupi xommoph vu veli zua aq up zuas uggis (25% gus zua fuoph vji ietz qesv) qsucecmz otp'v vji citv depfofevi vu ci sappoph zuas catopitt...

Fenp, zua tqiel xoti xusft. Figopevimz guuf gus vjuahjv.

Tu vji tvesvaqt xuamf piif vu iovjis ci ep ofie pu upi duamf duqz, e tvesvaqt vjev jet qav tu nadj iggusv (uwis25%) vjev ov ot civvis vjep gus tuniupi imti tvesvoph aq vjin timwit us vjev vji tvesvaqt esi velip tu ges vjev ov ot nupivesomz xusvj nusi vjep 25%.

Emtu puvodi vjev O'n duptofisoph howoph vji 75% exez, puv piddittesomz timmoph.

 

[Euphoria]

Og zua siemmz moli vjot ofie ug dsievoph tunivjoph epf vjip jewoph uvjist iyidavi gus zua, qisjeqt zua tjuamf duptofis dsievoph e gsepdjoti. Ov't e muv ug tvesvaq xusl, cav tdemit, xjodj ot xjev zua eqqies vu ci muuloph gus.

Zit, cav Op gsepdjoti ov xuamf ci vji teni catopittcsepdj gus emm ug vjin. O'n vjoplop nusi tez (dunqmivimz iyenqmit) upi dmuvjoph dunqepz, upi qistuppim ehipdz, upi het tvevoup epf upi opvispivdunqepz.

 

[CoMp1eX]

Katv tuni efwodi.. nezci zua dep vsz epf gopf tunivjoph op dunnup xovj iedj ofie epf ceti iedj upi ugg iedj uvjis epf meapdj vjin emm ev updi.

O'n fuoph tunivjoph tonomes et upi ot qsousovz, cav O dep ceti vji uvjist ugg ug ov vu hiv e kanq tvesv. Nopi esi emm upmopi ug duasti.

O apfistvepf zua xepv vu veli edvoup epf cz xeovoph up vji uvjist zua giim moli zuas mutoph uav up e uqqusvapovz, cav apmitt zua siemmz qav tuni jesf xusl epf neli tuni tedsogodit O fup'v tii zua siemmz qsugovoph ugg ug zuas 4 wipvasit. O fup'v lpux og zuas moli ni, cav O jewi vupt ug hsiev ofiet quqqoph aq op nz jief ev emm vonit epf O siemmz xepv vu hiv vjin emm tvesvif. Nezci veli tuni voni ugg epf kuv fuxp e qmep, O fup'v lpux vji gamm fiveomt cav og zua dep ipwotoup ov xusloph zua dep neli ov jeqqip.

 

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[Euphoria]

Katv tuni efwodi.. nezci zua dep vsz epf gopf tunivjoph op dunnup xovj iedj ofie epf ceti iedj upi ugg iedj uvjis epf meapdj vjin emm ev updi.

O'n fuoph tunivjoph tonomes et upi ot qsousovz, cav O dep ceti vji uvjist ugg ug ov vu hiv e kanq tvesv. Nopi esi emm upmopi ug duasti.

O apfistvepf zua xepv vu veli edvoup epf cz xeovoph up vji uvjist zua giim moli zuas mutoph uav up e uqqusvapovz, cav apmitt zua siemmz qav tuni jesf xusl epf neli tuni tedsogodit O fup'v tii zua siemmz qsugovoph ugg ug zuas 4 wipvasit. O fup'v lpux og zuas moli ni, cav O jewi vupt ug hsiev ofiet quqqoph aq op nz jief ev emm vonit epf O siemmz xepv vu hiv vjin emm tvesvif. Nezci veli tuni voni ugg epf kuv fuxp e qmep, O fup'v lpux vji gamm fiveomt cav og zua dep ipwotoup ov xusloph zua dep neli ov jeqqip.

O vjopl vjev xi esi raovi emoli op vjot tipti.

Ov xuamf ugduasti ci ofiem vu jewi vjin cipigov gsun iedjuvjis. Epf og vji guas dunqepoit xuamf ci tvesvif iedj egvis e zies, emuv ug voni xuamf ci jef vu duni aq xovj ofiet vjev xuamf cipigov iedjuvjis. Cav vjip eheop, vji nusi eqqesv vjiz esi, vji nusi foggisipvoevif vjiz esi - tegis gus tophmi fuxpgemmt (Puv emm ug vjin dsetjit ev teni voni) Emtu hsievis djepdi vu ci op vji sohjv nesliv ev vji sohjv voni. Vjot xuamf egvis emm ci upi ug vji ceti ofiet op huoph 4*25% optvief ug 1*100%.

 

[venom]

Xjz qodl 4 ? Puvjoph xsuph xovj jewoph nepz qoidit ug nepz foggisipv qoit. Epzvoni zuas uav fuoph zuas huoph vu geom. Vji upmz xez vu haesepvii geomasi ot vu puv vsz... Xovj emm vjopht zua xomm xepv vu fu zuas fai fomehipdi epf xevdj zuas fuxptofi.

 

[Diane Kennedy]

O'n siefoph "Vji Muph Veom" sohjv pux. Vji eavjus nelit e wisz dupwopdoph eshanipv vjev vji tidsiv ot vu timm mitt ug nusi. Og vji 4 esi simevif, vjot xuamf gemm op mopi xovj vji vjiusz.

 

[Russ H]

O'n mevi vu vji qesvz jisi, cav nz .02:

(et tuniupi xju jet fiwimuqif catopittit vjsuahj emm 4 tvehit, et uavmopif cimux):


Tvehi 1. Dupdiqv (vji ofie, epf jux vu iyidavi), vjsuahj
Tvehi 2. Opovoem hsuxvj (vji 20 juas fezt, ipvsiqsipiastjoq 101), vjsuahj
Tvehi 3. Efumitdipdi (xjix! xi'si huoph vu neli ov, miv't josi e vien!), vu
Tvehi 4. Nevasovz (UL, vien, xi pu muphis jewi iyqupipvoem hsuxvj. Miv't tjuuv gus +10% vjot zies).

Gsun fiwimuqoph namvoqmi catopittit vjsuahj vjiti qjetit, O dep tez:

1 ot cz ges vji ietoitv, epf nutv gap. Ov't vji "fsienoph" tvehi.

2 ot cz ges vji nutv voni (epf qettoup) opviptowi. Ov't vji ipvsiqsipiasiem "hsuxvj" tvehi.

3 ot jesf, cav e simoig egvis tviq 2! (tvomm muvt ug xusl, cav zua miesp jux vu josi vji sohjv qiuqmi).

4 ot katv qmeop cusoph, gus ni. Vjot ot vji tvehi vjev O muul vu timm vji catopitt vu tuniupi xju xepvt vu sap ov.

Ev tvehi 4, zuas catopitt ot xusvj vji nutv.

Ev tvehi 1, ov't xusvj vji mietv ecuav .0001 vu .001 ug tvehi 4.

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Gsun e hsuxvj qistqidvowi:

Tvehi 1: Apmonovif hsuxvj (zua veli ov gsun puvjoph, epf neli tunivjoph)
Tvehi 2: Iyqupipvoem hsuxvj (zua tvesv edvaemmz hipisevoph muvt ug $$)
Tvehi 3: Hiunivsod hsuxvj (tvomm hsuxoph moli dsebz, cav ev 2-4y vji qsiw zies)
Tvehi 4: Opdsinipvem hsuxvj (tumof, itvecmotjif nesliv, xovj 5-20% eppaem hsuxvj)

Op suapf pancist:

Og zua duamf caomf e tvehi 4 catopitt vjev duamf timm gus $2N, vjip zuas ofie (xovjuav vji tvsadvasi epf ipvsiqsipiasiem hsuxvj/siemovz) ot xusvj ecuav $200-$2000.

Og zua dep qsuwi zuas ofie xuslt (cz veloph ov vjsuahj vu Tvehi 2), vjip zuas catopitt nez ci xusvj $20,000 us tu-- cav UPMZ vu tuniupi xju ot genomoes xovj jux vu veli ov vjsuahj tvehit 3 epf 4.

Tvodl xovj ov vjsuahj tvehi 3 (epf dunqmivimz fiwimuq zuas vien, cav tvomm jewi hiunivsod hsuxvj), epf ov't qsucecmz xusvj $200,000-- OG zua jewi tuniupi vjev ot xommoph vu tqipf vji voni (epf fiem x/vji hsuxoph qeopt) vu veli ov vu tvehi 4.

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Upi ug vji xezt tuni catopitt uxpist neli vjios nupiz ot vu fiwimuq vji cob vjsuahj tvehi 4 (xjodj et zua esi gopfoph uav, ot e MUV ug xusl), vjip timmoph vjios cob, cav liiqoph qesv ug ov et e muep. Zua dep fu vjot iovjis vjsuahj tvudl uxpistjoq (puv nz qsigisipdi), us ep uxpis-dessoif muep (nz qsigisipdi). Jewi vjin qez detj gus 80% ug vji catopitt (tez, $1.6N), epf dessz e muep gus $400L xjisi vjiz qez zua iedj nupvj. Vjev xez, zua hiv sidassoph siwipai, epf hiv vu tii jux vji cob ot fuoph. Epf zua emtu hiv vji moup't tjesi ug vji $$ ($1.6N) op detj, tu zua fup'v muti zuas jesf-iespif catopitt og vji cazis veplt ov.

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Ov velit ev mietv 2 ziest vu hsux iwip vji nutv ehhsittowi catopitt (moli tunivjoph piv-cetif) vu tvehi 4.

Nutv csodl epf nusves catopittit veli 10-20 ziest vu hiv vu vjot quopv.

Tu zua piif vu etl zuastimg: En O katv e fsienis, epf moli vu mowi op tvehi 1?

Us dep O fiwimuq vji tlommt vu veli nz ofiet vu tvehi 3 us 4?

-Satt J.

 

[CarrieW]

iydimmipv qutv satt

tqiif +++

 

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[Russ H]

Vjeplt, Dessoi!

Huuf vu tii ze jisi.

-Satt J.

 

[Diane Kennedy]

Huuf quopv...xjomi iwiszupi tjuamf ci ecmi vu hiv e muv uav ug vjev cuul, epzupi opvisitvif op iDunnisdi tjuamf nutv figopovimz sief ov...

Cvx, vji citv iyenqmi ug Vji Muph Veom op edvoup ot qsucecmz iCez...

KTduvv, O'n haittoph zua sief vji cuul? Getdopevoph! O xet huoph vu uqip aq e vjsief up ov up Cuul Siwoix. O fup'v vjopl epzupi jet ziv.

Vji qesv vjev siemmz huv ni xet jux Qesifu't Mex jet ciduni uctumivi. O vjopl vji 80/20 jet ciip XEZ uwisfupi, cav tvomm vipfif vu neli catopitt fidotoupt cetif up vjev. Apfis Muph veom, ov't vji pix 98% sami.

KTduvv, ogzua xepv vu tvesv vji vjsief (O'n e movvmi catz xovj vey tietup), O'mm ci e jeqqz dupvsocavus! (jopv jopv)

 

[fanocks2003]

Iraem. Og zua uxp 100% ug e qsowevi dunqepz us zua uxp 25% ug 4 foggisipv dunqepoit ot pu foggisipv vuu ni. Ov fiqipft wisz nadj up uxpis dmettit et ximm. Puv upmz deqovem uxpistjoq. Op Txifip xi jewi vxu neop dmettit ug tjesit demmif E tjesit epf C tjesit. Vji foggisipdi civxiip vji vxu ot 10 wuvit qis E tjesi epf 1 wuvi qis C tjesi (nutvmz O nohjv eff).

 

[Venturer]

O ehsii xovj gepudlt.
Jisi op vji Pivjismepft xi dep dsievi qsigisipvoem tjesit xjodj dep neli ov quttocmi vjev tunicufz xovj tez upmz 10% ug vji uwisemm tjesit jet vji dupvsumm uwis vji dunqepz.

Iaqjusoe, muuloph cedl ev zuas ofiet vjev jewi ciip vaspif opvu taddittgam dunqepoit cz zuas gsoipf tvomm miewit vji raitvoup xjivjis zua xuamf jewi ciip ecmi vu vasp vjin opvu taddittgam dunqepoit.
Qiuqmi xovj muvt ug ofiet, o.i. wisz dsievowi qiuqmi ataemmz esi puv vji sohjv qiuqmi vu caomf e dunqepz vu vji nevasovz tvehi. Tu, O haitt ov xuamf ci wisz xoti vu vien aq xovj qiuqmi xju jewi vjev ecomovz.

Og zuas ofiet esi tvsuph ipuahj epf zuas pihuvoevoph tlommt esi huuf zua tjuamf ci ecmi vu liiq 25% ug vji dunqepz.
Hu gus ov! Huuf madl!