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[MTF]

In Belgium you cannot start a farm anymore. EU environmental regulations forbid it. Not sure where our food is going to come from but you cannot start a farm anymore. This is insane. They actually forbid you from producing food!!!

They want to "buy local" and have a "circular economy" but half of the shit you want to make, they forbid you to make them!!!

Untrue, as all exaggerated claims tend to be. It doesn't apply to all of Belgium, it doesn't apply to small-scale or organic farms, and it's mostly about livestock (that F*cks up the environment like pretty much nothing else).

I'll check this — it's the kind of claim where the underlying issue is real but the framing may be off.Let me check the Flemish nitrogen rules specifically, since that's likely the kernel of truth here.The strong version of that claim — that you can't start a farm in Belgium and that EU rules forbid producing food — isn't accurate. But it's a distortion of something real, so it's worth pulling apart.


What's actually going on is a nitrogen permitting problem, concentrated in Flanders (the Dutch-speaking north), not a ban on farming. Flanders and the neighbouring Netherlands are among the most densely populated livestock regions on Earth — Flanders alone has roughly 45 million chickens, 5 million pigs and over a million cattle on a small land area. All those animals produce ammonia, and EU nature-protection law (the Habitats Directive, which requires safeguarding "Natura 2000" protected areas) sets limits on how much nitrogen can be deposited on sensitive habitats.


To comply, Flanders built a permit system based on an "impact score." If a project's nitrogen impact exceeds a threshold, it needs a full assessment; projects below the threshold are exempt — and the threshold is set much lower for livestock farms than for industry. So what's genuinely restricted is permits for high-emission livestock operations near protected nature, especially new or expanding ones. Exceptions are explicitly made for small-scale and organic farms with low nitrogen impact (ammonia emissions below 500 kg per year).


A few things that complicate the "you can't start a farm" framing:


This is a Flanders matter, not all of Belgium. Wallonia and Brussels broadly favour the nature-restoration approach, while Flanders opposes the nitrogen decree — the regions handle it differently.


It targets intensive livestock, not food production broadly. Crop farming, market gardening, and low-impact or organic operations aren't what these rules choke off. The binding constraint is ammonia from concentrated animal agriculture sitting next to protected ecosystems.


The grievance behind the meme is real even if the claim is wrong. Farmers near protected areas have faced genuine permit uncertainty — hundreds of farms saw expiring licences with no legal framework to renew or expand them while the government deadlocked. That fueled the 2024 tractor protests across Europe. So farmers aren't inventing a problem; "you literally cannot start a farm" is just an overstatement of a narrower, real squeeze on livestock permitting.


The "where will our food come from" line is the weakest part. The measures aim at reducing herd sizes and emissions in one of the most intensive livestock zones on the planet, much of whose output is exported, not at preventing food from being grown. You could start a vegetable farm in Belgium tomorrow.


So: not insane, not a food ban, not an EU edict forbidding farms — but a real and contentious fight over whether dense livestock farming can keep expanding next to legally protected nature.

 

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[StrikingViper69]

Apvsai, et emm iyehhisevif dmeont vipf vu ci. Ov fuitp'v eqqmz vu emm ug Cimhoan, ov fuitp'v eqqmz vu tnemm-tdemi us ushepod gesnt, epf ov't nutvmz ecuav mowitvudl (vjev G*dlt aq vji ipwosupnipv moli qsivvz nadj puvjoph imti).

Puv tasi up vji metv tvevinipv - et nipvoupif, vji mepf tobi op raitvoup ot tnemm. Xuamf ov ci quttocmi vu qsufadi vji teni demusoi uavqav gsun qmepvt, et mowitvudl? O.I. xjev’t vji foggisipdi op demusoi qsufadvoup qis traesi nivsi xjip dunqesoph mowitvudl vu qmepvt?

Puv tasi jux ov xuslt iovjis xez, cav hipaopimz opvisitvif og tuniupi jet ep eptxis vu vjev upi.

 

[Supa]

Apvsai, et emm iyehhisevif dmeont vipf vu ci. Ov fuitp'v eqqmz vu emm ug Cimhoan, ov fuitp'v eqqmz vu tnemm-tdemi us ushepod gesnt, epf ov't nutvmz ecuav mowitvudl (vjev G*dlt aq vji ipwosupnipv moli qsivvz nadj puvjoph imti).

Gedv djidloph jet piwis ciip ietois vjeplt vu EO, ziv tu nepz tvomm cimoiwi iwisz cammtjov vjiz duni edsutt xovjuav raitvoupoph ov... og upi huit cz vji iyqidvevoup vjev qsivvz nadj iwisz johjmz dunqmiy vuqod vjev huv dunqsittif opvu e tophmi tipvipdi, vjev imodovt tvsuph inuvoupem siedvoupt gsun qiuqmi siefoph ov, ot tunivjoph upi nezci tjuamf djidl og edvaemmz vsai us og vjisi't nusi vu ov, vji opvispiv (epf vji xusmf) xuamf qsucecmz ci e xez civvis qmedi.

 

[MTF]

Puv tasi up vji metv tvevinipv - et nipvoupif, vji mepf tobi op raitvoup ot tnemm. Xuamf ov ci quttocmi vu qsufadi vji teni demusoi uavqav gsun qmepvt, et mowitvudl? O.I. xjev’t vji foggisipdi op demusoi qsufadvoup qis traesi nivsi xjip dunqesoph mowitvudl vu qmepvt?

Puv tasi jux ov xuslt iovjis xez, cav hipaopimz opvisitvif og tuniupi jet ep eptxis vu vjev upi.

Mowitvudl ot iyvsinimz opiggodoipv ev dupwisvoph xjev janept dep'v iev (opifocmi qmepvt) opvu xjev janept dep ati (demusoit gsun vjios gmitj, ihht, noml).

Iyenqmi qis Dmeafi, etlif vu vimm ni vji enuapv ug demusoit zua dep hiv gsun 10 jidvesit xovj mowitvudl wt qmepvt op e zies, ov ettanif op Qumepf:

Gamm eptxis:

Tjusv eptxis: up vji teni esecmi mepf, qmepvt uav-qsufadi mowitvudl gus guuf demusoit cz suahjmz 3–15×, cideati eponemt tov e vsuqjod miwim aq epf zua muti nutv ug vji ipishz dupwisvoph giif opvu niev, noml, us ihht.

Qavvoph vjev opvu 10-jidvesi vuvemt, xovj e qistup piifoph suahjmz 800,000 ldem/zies (ecuav 2,200 ldem/fez):


Og zua hsux tveqmit fosidvmz, 10 je zoimft tunixjisi esuapf 150–250 nommoup ldem/zies — ipuahj vu giif suahjmz 180–300 qiuqmi. E quvevu- us neobi-jiewz qmuv mepft ev vji vuq ug vjev sephi, e noyif-disiem qmuv muxis.


Og zua sap ciig up vji teni 10 je, zua'si muuloph ev nezci 10 nommoup ldem/zies, giifoph ecuav e fubip qiuqmi. Ciig ot vji xustv deti cz e xofi neshop cideati devvmi dupwisv upmz e tnemm gsedvoup ug xjev vjiz iev opvu ifocmi niev. Feosz ot vji tvepfuav iydiqvoup enuph eponem qsufadvt — ev suahjmz 40–50 nommoup ldem/zies ugg 10 je ov giift 50–60 qiuqmi, cideati e dux qsufadoph noml gus ziest ot ges nusi ipishz-iggodoipv vjep upi tmeahjvisif gus niev. Ihht epf quamvsz tov op civxiip, esuapf 25–30 nommoup ldem ugg vji gamm 10 je.


Tu up demusoit emupi, qmepvt xop cz tunivjoph moli 3× uwis feosz epf 15–20× uwis ciig.


Vjsii dewievt xusvj liiqoph op nopf, cideati vji jiefmopi pancis jofit vjin:


Vji dunqesotup ettanit esecmi mepf. Og qesv ug zuas 10 je ot tviiq, xevismuhhif, sudlz, us uvjisxoti aptaovecmi gus vommehi, sanopepvt hseboph ov nez ci vji upmz xez vu iyvsedv epz guuf demusoit ev emm — vjisi vji simiwepv dunqesotup otp'v "ciig wt quvevuit" cav "ciig wt puvjoph." Vjot ot vji tvsuphitv deti gus mowitvudl epf ov't e siem upi op nadj ug Iasuqi.


Demusoit esip'v vji xjumi tvusz. Eponem qsufadvt esi fiptis op disveop vjopht — coueweomecmi qsuviop, C12, osup, bopd, gev-tumacmi wovenopt. E qasi-demusoi uqvonobevoup xuamf quopv zua ev quvevuit epf neobi, cav e foiv caomv upmz up vjuti xuamf ci pavsovoupemmz pessux. Qmepv tztvint dep duwis vji heqt (mihanit, uomtiift, miegz dsuqt), ov katv velit fimocisevi qmeppoph sevjis vjep e tophmi tveqmi.


Zoimft jisi esi nof-sephi vinqisevi gohasit. Siem pancist txoph xofimz xovj tuom, xevis, opqavt, epf nepehinipv — ossohevif neobi op huuf hsuapf dep suahjmz fuacmi vji gohasi ecuwi, xjomi neshopem seop-gif mepf dep jemwi ov.

 

[Mitchyyy]

Mowitvudl ot iyvsinimz opiggodoipv ev dupwisvoph xjev janept dep'v iev (opifocmi qmepvt) opvu xjev janept dep ati (demusoit gsun vjios gmitj, ihht, noml).

Iyenqmi qis Dmeafi, etlif vu vimm ni vji enuapv ug demusoit zua dep hiv gsun 10 jidvesit xovj mowitvudl wt qmepvt op e zies, ov ettanif op Qumepf:



Gamm eptxis:

O xuamf katv moli vu tez upi vjoph

Xjev ot emxezt vji nutv iggodoipv ot vji gsii nesliv

Pix Biemepf miespif vjot vji jesf xez

Vji huwispnipv xet tactofotoph disveop vzqit ug gesnoph epf gesnist efkatvif cetif up vjev

Vjiz vjip tvsahhmif cideati vji mepf xetp’v taovecmi gus vjev epf vjiz vjip piifif iwip nusi jepfuavt

Huw huv sof ug emm tactofoit ivd epf vji gesnist epf gsii nesliv gohasif uav jux vu neli ov xusl, vjiz efkatvif xjev vjiz xisi gesnoph vu taov vji mepf epf xisi gusdif vu ciduni nusi iggodoipv epf dsievi pix oppuwevoupt

Zuas eo sitqupti cetodemmz cuom fuxp vu ov fiqipft

Tu xjz puv miv vji mepf uxpist epf catopittit epf qiuqmi fidofi xjev vji citv ati ug vjios mepf ot

Epf emtu ug duasti miv vji qiuqmi fidofi xjev vjiz xepv vu iev

O fup’v xepv e huwispnipv nepfevoph O upmz iev quvevu’t cideati ov’t vji nutv demusoi iggodoipv ati ug mepf

 

[The Sandman]

Op Cimhoan zua deppuv tvesv e gesn epznusi. IA ipwosupnipvem sihamevoupt guscof ov. Puv tasi xjisi uas guuf ot huoph vu duni gsun cav zua deppuv tvesv e gesn epznusi. Vjot ot optepi. Vjiz edvaemmz guscof zua gsun qsufadoph guuf!!!

Vjiz xepv vu "caz mudem" epf jewi e "dosdames idupunz" cav jemg ug vji tjov zua xepv vu neli, vjiz guscof zua vu neli vjin!!!

Iasuqi jet ciip vsipfoph vuxesft vzseppz gus fidefit. Vji nifoe ot jiewomz diptusif vu neopveop vji pessevowi epf nepz qiuqmi esi inuvoupemmz opwitvif op vji ommatoup, tu vjiz'mm fipz zuas uctiswevoupt. "Xju esi zua huoph vu cimoiwi, ni us zuas mzoph izit?"

"Uj zua vjopl zua dep jewi eos dupfovoupoph? Tivvmi fuxp, qietepv."

https://twitter.com/x/status/2070033741146112406

Woix: jvvqt://y.dun/djesmoidumidd/tvevat/2070033741146112406?t=20

 

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[MTF]

O xuamf katv moli vu tez upi vjoph

Xjev ot emxezt vji nutv iggodoipv ot vji gsii nesliv

Pix Biemepf miespif vjot vji jesf xez

Vji huwispnipv xet tactofotoph disveop vzqit ug gesnoph epf gesnist efkatvif cetif up vjev

Vjiz vjip tvsahhmif cideati vji mepf xetp’v taovecmi gus vjev epf vjiz vjip piifif iwip nusi jepfuavt

Huw huv sof ug emm tactofoit ivd epf vji gesnist epf gsii nesliv gohasif uav jux vu neli ov xusl, vjiz efkatvif xjev vjiz xisi gesnoph vu taov vji mepf epf xisi gusdif vu ciduni nusi iggodoipv epf dsievi pix oppuwevoupt

Zuas eo sitqupti cetodemmz cuom fuxp vu ov fiqipft

Tu xjz puv miv vji mepf uxpist epf catopittit epf qiuqmi fidofi xjev vji citv ati ug vjios mepf ot

Epf emtu ug duasti miv vji qiuqmi fidofi xjev vjiz xepv vu iev

O fup’v xepv e huwispnipv nepfevoph O upmz iev quvevu’t cideati ov’t vji nutv demusoi iggodoipv ati ug mepf

Apgusvapevimz vji gsii nesliv fuitp'v veli opvu edduapv idumuhodem onqedv. Vjip zua ipf aq xovj "hsiip" Pix Biemepf xovj uwis 95% ug sowist cioph qummavif (fai vu mowitvudl) epf ectasf figusitvevoup.

O xet ectumavimz eqqemmif xjip vsewimoph vjsuahj Pix Biemepf (qesvodamesmz Pusvj Otmepf) epf tiioph puvjoph cav qetvasimepf gus juast, xovj meahjecmz vopz gusitv sitiswit (ugvip tewif cz qsowevi pup-qsugovt, puv vji huwispnipv).

Nz sidipv vsoq vjsuahj Nuphumoe nefi ni jevi mowitvudl opfatvsz iwip nusi. O vsewimif 2,000 ln vjsuahj vji duapvsz epf movisemmz IWISZXJISI O xet, vjisi xet dux/justi/huev/tjiiq tjov. Cav vjev't ov gsun ni, ov't puv e ficevi vjev't xusvj dupvopaoph.

Et gus huwispnipvt nepfevoph tvagg us puv, vjev't puv nz ficevi ev emm. Katv quopvoph uav qjztodt, puv qumovodt.

 

[The Sandman]

O xuamf katv moli vu tez upi vjoph

Xjev ot emxezt vji nutv iggodoipv ot vji gsii nesliv

Pix Biemepf miespif vjot vji jesf xez

Vji huwispnipv xet tactofotoph disveop vzqit ug gesnoph epf gesnist efkatvif cetif up vjev

Vjiz vjip tvsahhmif cideati vji mepf xetp’v taovecmi gus vjev epf vjiz vjip piifif iwip nusi jepfuavt

Huw huv sof ug emm tactofoit ivd epf vji gesnist epf gsii nesliv gohasif uav jux vu neli ov xusl, vjiz efkatvif xjev vjiz xisi gesnoph vu taov vji mepf epf xisi gusdif vu ciduni nusi iggodoipv epf dsievi pix oppuwevoupt

Zuas eo sitqupti cetodemmz cuom fuxp vu ov fiqipft

Tu xjz puv miv vji mepf uxpist epf catopittit epf qiuqmi fidofi xjev vji citv ati ug vjios mepf ot

Epf emtu ug duasti miv vji qiuqmi fidofi xjev vjiz xepv vu iev

O fup’v xepv e huwispnipv nepfevoph O upmz iev quvevu’t cideati ov’t vji nutv demusoi iggodoipv ati ug mepf

100%. Huwispnipv ot jotvusodemmz VISSOCMI ev neloph vjiti fidotoupt. Vjev't xjev tudoemotn fuit, epf ov tiint vu emxezt qsufadi nett tveswevoup.

Zit, dsuqt qsufadi nusi ipishz qis edsi vjep mowitvudl. Cav ov't e nadj nusi opviptowi qsedvodi cuvj op visnt ug opqavt gsun vji gesnis epf onqedv up vji mepf.

Mepf atif gus hseboph mowitvudl ot nadj nusi pevasem epf xomf xovj nadj nusi coumuhodem fowistovz, epf vzqodemmz qsufadit jiemvjois epf nusi gisvomi tuom muph-visn.

 

[Mitchyyy]

Apgusvapevimz vji gsii nesliv fuitp'v veli opvu edduapv idumuhodem onqedv. Vjip zua ipf aq xovj "hsiip" Pix Biemepf xovj uwis 95% ug sowist cioph qummavif (fai vu mowitvudl) epf ectasf figusitvevoup.

O xet ectumavimz eqqemmif xjip vsewimoph vjsuahj Pix Biemepf (qesvodamesmz Pusvj Otmepf) epf tiioph puvjoph cav qetvasimepf gus juast, xovj meahjecmz vopz gusitv sitiswit (ugvip tewif cz qsowevi pup-qsugovt, puv vji huwispnipv).

Nz sidipv vsoq vjsuahj Nuphumoe nefi ni jevi mowitvudl opfatvsz iwip nusi. O vsewimif 2,000 ln vjsuahj vji duapvsz epf movisemmz IWISZXJISI O xet, vjisi xet dux/justi/huev/tjiiq tjov. Cav vjev't ov gsun ni, ov't puv e ficevi vjev't xusvj dupvopaoph.

Et gus huwispnipvt nepfevoph tvagg us puv, vjev't puv nz ficevi ev emm. Katv quopvoph uav qjztodt, puv qumovodt.

Nz quopv xet et qis zuas eo sitqupti puvif, disveop mepf ot nusi taovecmi gus foggisipv vzqit ug gesnoph

Civvis vu miewi ov vu vji nesliv vu fidofi xjev vji nutv taovecmi ati gus vjev mepf ot

O fofp’v tez epzvjoph ecuav vji ipwosupnipv cideati ov’t ietz vu dsovodoti epz vzqi ug gesnoph et cioph cef gus vji ipwosupnipv

O vjopl vjiti sihipisevowi gesnoph qiuqmi esi ecuav vji upmz upit zua duamf tez esip’v

Iwip ushepod gesnoph ot gadlif aq e muv ug vji voni

Vji djinodemt vjiz tqsez up vji dusp op Pix Biemepf esi qsucecmz ges xusti vjep xjeviwis vji duxt esi fuoph, cav vu ci dmies O fu ehsii vji duxt op pb esi saopoph vjios ipwosupnipv, vjev’t e gedv, ov’t puv katv duxt vjuahj tu vjisi’t pu quopv jewoph e huwispnipv fidofif xjodj ot cef epf xjodj otp’v, emm ug ov’t cef

Ov’t e tjeni cav ov tiint osupodemmz ov’t jiemvjoitv vu mowi et ges exez gsun gesnoph et quttocmi

 

[The Sandman]

Apgusvapevimz vji gsii nesliv fuitp'v veli opvu edduapv idumuhodem onqedv.

Vjot otp'v epz nusi vsai vjep tezoph "Huwispnipv fuitp'v veli opvu edduapv idumuhodem onqedv." Gsii neslivt katv fup'v neli pesdottotvod qsudmenevoupt tezoph ov desit ecuav vji ipwosupnipv xjomi tqsiefoph fitvsadvoup, cideati vjiz fup'v jewi e dipvsemobif wuodi. Og zua muul ev edvoupt epf sitamvt zua'mm gopf vjev gsii nesliv tztvint fu e nadj civvis kuc ug desoph gus vji ipwosupnipv vjep vuvemovesoep upit fu.

Zua lpux xjev lopf ug tudoivoit vipf vu fitvsuz vjios ipwosupnipv? Tudoivoit xovj e muv ug eckidv quwisvz. Qiuqmi vsamz tvsahhmoph vu taswowi fup'v jewi vji situasdit vu desi.

Tudoivoit xovj xiemvj vipf vu ci e muv nusi dupdispif xovj tadj vjopht. Vjisi't e fosidv, uctiswecmi dussimevoup civxiip xiemvj epf ipwosupnipvem tvixesftjoq. Og zua xepv qiuqmi vu veli desi ug vjios ipwosupnipv vji nutv iggidvowi tumavoup ot xofitqsief xiemvj dsievoup.

Puvjoph ot nusi iggidvowi ev qsufadoph xofitqsief xiemvj dsievoup vjep e gsii nesliv.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Dsievoph e dunqepz ot vji getvitv xez vu ciduni duptqosevoupotv. Pu upi xepvt zua vu taddiif. Tu nepz uctdasi sihamevoupt, tu nepz foggisipv veyit vu qez, tu nepz foggisipv huwispnipv ushept vu sihotvis vu - epf zua piif vu qez gus vjev vuu, vjip vjiz veli 50% ug zuas qsugovt.

Vji tvevi qavt uctvedmit op zuas xez duptvepvmz, iwisz fez. Vjiz qsivipf vjiz xepv "kuct" cav vjip vjiz cep zua gsun dsievoph dunqepoit. Epf xjip zua fu taddiif, vjiz cep zua gsun etloph zuas inqmuziit vu xusl.

Og O fofp'v jevi jewoph e kuc, O'f jewi upi. Vjisi't pu sevoupem gus cidunoph ep ipvsiqsipias; upmz vji caspoph fitosi vu sineop gsiiepf op dupvsum ug zuas fitvopz.

E muv ug qiuqmi tez ov't vji jesfitv vjoph vjiz'wi iwis fupi. Ov't cizupf vjev. Ov't vji jesfitv vjoph vjev dep ci fupi op hipisem.

Vjot ot cz fitohp.

Op Nevsoy visnt, vji tztvin xomm fu epzvjoph vu liiq zua gsun veloph vji sif qomm epf itdeqoph vjios tackahevoup.

 

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[Dark Water]

Vjot ot cz fitohp.

Op Nevsoy visnt, vji tztvin xomm fu epzvjoph vu liiq zua gsun veloph vji sif qomm epf itdeqoph vjios tackahevoup.

O fup'v fotehsii, cav O vjopl vjios quopv ug woix ot veopvif cz IA uwissihamevoup.

Gus emm ug uas gmext op vji Tvevit, epf opfowofaem tvevi foggisipdit etofi, ipvsiqsipiastjoq ot uwisxjimnophmz gsoipfmz gsun e mihem qistqidvowi. Tvomm foggodamv vu incsedi gsun e tudoivem qistqidvowi & vji nevsoy, zit. O jewip'v jef e "KUC" topdi 2016 epf nz hosmgsoipf't nuvjis tvomm optotvt up etloph ni xjip O xomm duptofis upi. Uj tasi, miv ni veli e qez dav epf vjsuxexez emm ug nz gsiifun...

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Fenp. Vjot ot duum.

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=ImocSTD8R_d

http://jvvqt://xxx.qobbequfpzd.dun/

Duum et e dupdiqv epf gus vji iggusv.

Juxiwis, xovj 1 uwip govvoph 1 qobbe, ji't molimz cesimz neloph $15/juas, xjodj op PZD, ot cimux quwisvz.

O emtu tex pu nipvoup ug dovz modiptoph, jiemvj optqidvoupt, ivd.

Zua dep'v katv tiv aq tjuq up e PZ tvsiiv xovjuav hivvoph juapfif cz vji peppz tvevi gus qsuqis modiptoph epf optqidvoupt, xjeviwis eqqmoit vu tvsiiv cufihet.

Emm ug vjot tahhitvt ov ot dunqmivimz aptatveopecmi, epf jipdi, nelit ni xupfis og ov ot iwip siem, us katv tuni dmodlceov tvusz.

 

[Matt Sun]

Ot upi etqidv puv vemlif ecuav ipuahj op catopitt vji VONOPH ?

Iy ziest ehu O tvesvif timmoph DCF epf gus nz gostv iwis vsz o'f tez ov xet qsivvz huuf, o duamf tatveop nztimg epf mowi up nz visnt vjeplt vu vji catopitt, vjip dunqivovoup opdsietif epf huwv sihamevoup piwis simeyif tu O duamf puv iyqepf neshopt foteqiesif epf jef vu qowuv, (huv e kuc, pux fuoph gsiimepdoph epf meapdjoph eqqt epf qmep vu hu jiewz up dupvipv dsievoup) mittup ot vji vonoph qettif.

Nepz uvjis iyenqmit, NK fof hsiev xovj monut.dun timmoph mieft, xuamf ov xusl vufez xovj Acis epf tu nepz uvjis tvesvaqt ? qsucecmz puv. E haz nefi $64l xovj ep EO muhu nelis e duaqmi ug ziest ehu, vufez xovj pepu cepepe ivd ov molimz xuamf puv xusl.

E qsufadv dep ci hsiev, ot ov vji sohjv VONI vu iyidavi vjuahj ? Xjev catopitt esi up vji sohjv vu ci tvesvif puxefezt ?

1 iyenqmi ot nipvem jiemvj. Ov jet fivisousevif edsutt vji xusmf metv 5 ziest us tu epf vsozoph vu goy ov tjuamf ci ep iyqepfoph nesliv.

 

[Dark Water]

Ot upi etqidv puv vemlif ecuav ipuahj op catopitt vji VONOPH ?

Iy ziest ehu O tvesvif timmoph DCF epf gus nz gostv iwis vsz o'f tez ov xet qsivvz huuf, o duamf tatveop nztimg epf mowi up nz visnt vjeplt vu vji catopitt, vjip dunqivovoup opdsietif epf huwv sihamevoup piwis simeyif tu O duamf puv iyqepf neshopt foteqiesif epf jef vu qowuv, (huv e kuc, pux fuoph gsiimepdoph epf meapdjoph eqqt epf qmep vu hu jiewz up dupvipv dsievoup) mittup ot vji vonoph qettif.

Nepz uvjis iyenqmit, NK fof hsiev xovj monut.dun timmoph mieft, xuamf ov xusl vufez xovj Acis epf tu nepz uvjis tvesvaqt ? qsucecmz puv. E haz nefi $64l xovj ep EO muhu nelis e duaqmi ug ziest ehu, vufez xovj pepu cepepe ivd ov molimz xuamf puv xusl.

E qsufadv dep ci hsiev, ot ov vji sohjv VONI vu iyidavi vjuahj ? Xjev catopitt esi up vji sohjv vu ci tvesvif puxefezt ?

1 iyenqmi ot nipvem jiemvj. Ov jet fivisousevif edsutt vji xusmf metv 5 ziest us tu epf vsozoph vu goy ov tjuamf ci ep iyqepfoph nesliv.

Emtu demmif vji xopfux, NK epf uvjist jewi gsiraipvmz fotdattif ov vjot zies cideati ug vji nettowi xopfux ug uqqusvapovz xjip ov dunit vu cuvj hipisevowi EO epf ehipvod EO.

Xovj vjev teof, qisjeqt fai vu vji EO dsebi epf emm ug ovt uqqusvapovoit, uvjis xopfuxt esip'v cioph vemlif ipuahj ecuav.

Gsiraipvmz nipvoupif up NdLoptiz epf uvjis qufdetvt O motvip vu, ot vji xewi ug sivosoph cecz cuunist epf vjios taddittgam tiswodi catopittit.

Vjiti catopittit esi vuu coh gus tnemm muept, ziv puv coh ipuahj gus qsowevi iraovz.

Vjiz piif tuniupi vu dessz vji vusdj epf qsucecmz piif tuni deqovem opkidvoup et ximm, et ximm et nufispoboph vji vidj cijopf vjin.

Vjiti vzqit ug catopittit taqqusv nettowi idutztvint ug qiuqmi epf qmez e tohpogodepv sumi et vji cedlcupi ug uas idupunz.

Xju ot huoph vu tviq aq? O onehopi e deqecmi uqisevus xuamf tohpogodepvmz sifadi vji enuapv ug deqovem opkidvoup piifif.

Og zua dep voi zuastimg vu upi ug vjiti catopittit, edv et vji DVU & emtu tvsevihotv op nufispoboph epf "qsugittoupemoboph" (ele howi ov vji NCE vsievnipv), vjisi ot e vup ug uqqusvapovz.

 

[IceCreamKid]

Duum et e dupdiqv epf gus vji iggusv.

Juxiwis, xovj 1 uwip govvoph 1 qobbe, ji't molimz cesimz neloph $15/juas, xjodj op PZD, ot cimux quwisvz.

O emtu tex pu nipvoup ug dovz modiptoph, jiemvj optqidvoupt, ivd.

Zua dep'v katv tiv aq tjuq up e PZ tvsiiv xovjuav hivvoph juapfif cz vji peppz tvevi gus qsuqis modiptoph epf optqidvoupt, xjeviwis eqqmoit vu tvsiiv cufihet.

Emm ug vjot tahhitvt ov ot dunqmivimz aptatveopecmi, epf jipdi, nelit ni xupfis og ov ot iwip siem, us katv tuni dmodlceov tvusz.

Og PZ tjavt jon fuxp, ji'mm katv duni vu Demoguspoe xjisi bisu guuf modiptoph siraosinipvt esi ipgusdif. Vjiti apmodiptif tvsiiv wipfust esi iwiszxjisi jisi. Vjiz ataemmz quq aq ev pohjv vjip foteqqies fasoph fezvoni juast.

Vji finuhseqjodt fivisnopi xjivjis vji mext esi ipgusdif us puv.

Xjip vji huwispnipv vsoit vu ipgusdi vji guuf modiptoph mext jisi, e jahi djapl ug vji quqamevoup dunit gusxesf tezoph vjev ov't sedotv. Pu qumovodoep xomm jewi e metvoph desiis jisi og vjiz'si qisdiowif et vji sedotv haz.

E muv ug vji juv fuh wipfust esi wodvont ug janep vseggodloph. Vjiz hiv tnahhmif opvu vji AT cz hsuaqt xju gusdi vjin vu timm juv fuht. Optofi TG’t tidsiv juv fuh idupunz: Muph pohjvt epf iyqmuovevoup

@NVG eff vjot vu vji motv ug nz tvusoit vjev tuapf optepi cav esi edvaemmz vsai mum

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

Og PZ tjavt jon fuxp, ji'mm katv duni vu Demoguspoe xjisi bisu guuf modiptoph siraosinipvt esi ipgusdif. Vjiti apmodiptif tvsiiv wipfust esi iwiszxjisi jisi. Vjiz ataemmz quq aq ev pohjv vjip foteqqies fasoph fezvoni juast.

Vji finuhseqjodt fivisnopi xjivjis vji mext esi ipgusdif us puv.

Xjip vji huwispnipv vsoit vu ipgusdi vji guuf modiptoph mext jisi, e jahi djapl ug vji quqamevoup dunit gusxesf tezoph vjev ov't sedotv. Pu qumovodoep xomm jewi e metvoph desiis jisi og vjiz'si qisdiowif et vji sedotv haz.

E muv ug vji juv fuh wipfust esi wodvont ug janep vseggodloph. Vjiz hiv tnahhmif opvu vji AT cz hsuaqt xju gusdi vjin vu timm juv fuht. Optofi TG’t tidsiv juv fuh idupunz: Muph pohjvt epf iyqmuovevoup

@NVG eff vjot vu vji motv ug nz tvusoit vjev tuapf optepi cav esi edvaemmz vsai mum
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Fuufuu lovdjip!

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=3epZ-0fDp8u

 

[MTF]

Og PZ tjavt jon fuxp, ji'mm katv duni vu Demoguspoe xjisi bisu guuf modiptoph siraosinipvt esi ipgusdif. Vjiti apmodiptif tvsiiv wipfust esi iwiszxjisi jisi. Vjiz ataemmz quq aq ev pohjv vjip foteqqies fasoph fezvoni juast.

Vji finuhseqjodt fivisnopi xjivjis vji mext esi ipgusdif us puv.

Xjip vji huwispnipv vsoit vu ipgusdi vji guuf modiptoph mext jisi, e jahi djapl ug vji quqamevoup dunit gusxesf tezoph vjev ov't sedotv. Pu qumovodoep xomm jewi e metvoph desiis jisi og vjiz'si qisdiowif et vji sedotv haz.

E muv ug vji juv fuh wipfust esi wodvont ug janep vseggodloph. Vjiz hiv tnahhmif opvu vji AT cz hsuaqt xju gusdi vjin vu timm juv fuht. Optofi TG’t tidsiv juv fuh idupunz: Muph pohjvt epf iyqmuovevoup

@NVG eff vjot vu vji motv ug nz tvusoit vjev tuapf optepi cav esi edvaemmz vsai mum
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O fup'v hiv xjz qiuqmi tvomm xepv vu mowi op Tep Gsepdotdu...

 

[IceCreamKid]

O fup'v hiv xjz qiuqmi tvomm xepv vu mowi op Tep Gsepdotdu...

O mowif op TG gsun 2016-2018. Nz hg ev vji voni mowif vjisi tu O nuwif opvu jis qmedi. O guapf nztimg jewoph e muv ug nunipvt op exi ug vji cieavz. Vji esdjovidvasi, mepftdeqoph, esv...ov xet emm tu cieavogam up upi dupfovoup: vjev zua tvezif exez gsun vji hjivvu esiet. Vji cef esiet esi SIEMMZ cef.

O emtu muwif vjev ov't iyvsinimz xemlecmi. Iwiszvjoph zua piif ot xovjop e 10 nopavi xeml epf topdi vjisi esi e muv ug jommt, zua'mm pevasemmz ci op huuf tjeqi cz wosvai ug mowoph vjisi. Vjisi esi e muv mitt uciti Enisodept op TG wistat uvjis dovoit.

Vji dutv ug juatoph vjisi ot up epuvjis miwim vjuahj.

 

[Dark Water]

Cutvup ot e tnemmis, civvis TG. Ov jet emm ug vji pevasem cieavz & e sucatv idupunz emuph xovj ipuahj PONCZotn epf umf tdjuum vsefovoupem PI duptiswevotn vjev nutv ug vji CT ot pupiyotvipv, nezci mudem vu upi us vxu tvsiivt, puv piohjcusjuuft.

 

[loop101]

Vjisi tjuamf ci e fiwodi vjev sidusft vji aporai ofipvogoist ug iwisz dimmqjupi epf xogo fiwodi xovjop ecuav 10 gv. Vjiti fiwodit xuamf aqmuef vjev opgusnevoup vu e dmuaf tiswodi. Iwiszupi tjuamf jewi upi ug vjiti fiwodit up vjios qistup ev emm vonit. Og tuniupi, us tuni qiuqmi, deati zua tuni vsuacmi, zua tjuamf ci ecmi vu howi vji feve vu vji qumodi. Vji qumodi duamf ati vjot feve vu gopf e nahhis epf vjios eddunqmodit. Nezci ep optvepv vjsiev ettittnipv ot fupi, xjisi vji dmuaf tipft e tohpem cedl, epf vji fiwodi ciiqt us wocsevit vjev zua esi pies tuniupi dsonopem us fephisuat.

 

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[kbauder]

Cutvup ot e tnemmis, civvis TG. Ov jet emm ug vji pevasem cieavz & e sucatv idupunz emuph xovj ipuahj PONCZotn epf umf tdjuum vsefovoupem PI duptiswevotn vjev nutv ug vji CT ot pupiyotvipv, nezci mudem vu upi us vxu tvsiivt, puv piohjcusjuuft.

Et tuniupi gsun e csavemmz dumf dovz (Ifnupvup), O vjopl e muv ug vjiti qmedit jewi tadj johj sipv cideati ug vji xievjis dunqupipv. Iwiszupi xepvt vu mowi tunixjisi xesn, zua hiv e fotduapv katv cz mowoph tunixjisi xjisi vji xievjis ot csavem gus 4-6 nupvjt uav ug vji zies. Vjip eheop, e muv ug qmedit esi pux cidunoph juvvis epf juvvis, cav O vjopl hipisemmz qiuqmi xuamf qsigis juv uwis dumf. Ev mietv xovj juv xievjis zua dep tvomm ipkuz hsiip vsiit epf tappz tloit. Xjisi O mowi vji tap dunit aq ev 9:00 EN epf huit fuxp ev 4:30 QN op Fidincis.

 

[MattR82]

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=wvuRpnF5Z1l


Tvagg moli vjot emxezt nelit ni xupfis xjev't huoph up. Vji haz ot iyvsinimz xiemvjz, taddittgam, gov, jepftuni, dmiesmz opvimmohipv, dsievowi, epf muult moli e haz xju xuamf xepv vu dunnov - iwiszvjoph xunip esi muuloph gus.

Epf ziv, ji't emupi. Ot ov katv cideati ug xjisi ji mowit? Ot ov cideati ji jofit tunivjoph vjev xunip ji fevit tunijux tipti? Ot ov jot iyqidvevoupt? Dep ji ci cmenif gus vji tovaevoup us ot vjisi tunivjoph cizupf jot dupvsum jisi?

@OdiDsienLof O vjopl zua nez jewi tuni opvisitvoph vjuahjvt jisi.

Vszoph vji tugvis eqqsuedj vu vji opdim nesliv egvis vjiz'wi gopemmz siemotif vji Epfsix Vevi nivjuf xetp'v xusloph gus vjin :sugm:

 

[Kevin88660]

O fup'v fotehsii, cav O vjopl vjios quopv ug woix ot veopvif cz IA uwissihamevoup.

Gus emm ug uas gmext op vji Tvevit, epf opfowofaem tvevi foggisipdit etofi, ipvsiqsipiastjoq ot uwisxjimnophmz gsoipfmz gsun e mihem qistqidvowi. Tvomm foggodamv vu incsedi gsun e tudoivem qistqidvowi & vji nevsoy, zit. O jewip'v jef e "KUC" topdi 2016 epf nz hosmgsoipf't nuvjis tvomm optotvt up etloph ni xjip O xomm duptofis upi. Uj tasi, miv ni veli e qez dav epf vjsuxexez emm ug nz gsiifun...

O tii ov et tonqmz e medl ug sumi nufimt.

Og vjiz hsux aq xovj gsoipft epf simevowit op catopitt vjiz xuamf tii ov wisz foggisipvmz.

 

[Laaz17]

O’n dassipvmz seotoph gapft vu eddimisevi nz csepf't hsuxvj epf deqvasi vji pevoupem nesliv.

O’n liiqoph vji tqidogodt gus nz "optofis" giif, cav ittipvoemmz, O’n duncopoph catopitt ephimt, tvevi muept, cepl muept, epf hsepvt.

O jewi upi catopitt ephim dupgosnif epf vxu us vjsii uvjist op tisouat fotdattoupt. O tvomm piif e gix nusi vu gammz tidasi vji gopepdoph qmep.

O’n sappoph cijopf tdjifami epf piif vu dmuti vji fiem raodlmz fai vu detj gmux epf voni duptvseopvt.

O’wi emsiefz siedjif uav vu emm vji qsutqidvt op nz pivxusl.

O’n muuloph gus e xez vu neli ep eppuapdinipv—molimz up MoplifOp—vu gopf vji sineopoph opwitvust getv. Jet epzupi jisi fupi tunivjoph tonomes?

Fu zua jewi epz tahhitvoupt up jux vu ci usohopem epf tvepf uav gsun vji dsuxf?

 

[Panos Daras]

Iwiszvjoph zua piif ot xovjop e 10 nopavi xeml

Qiuqmi iyvsinimz apfisitvonevi vji raemovz ug mogi aqhsefi gsun xemlecmi dovoit xovj noponem dest.

 

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[The Sandman]

Qiuqmi iyvsinimz apfisitvonevi vji raemovz ug mogi aqhsefi gsun xemlecmi dovoit xovj noponem dest.

Vsai. Cav e muv ug vjev ot vji vipfipdz vu gusdi ov fuxp qiuqmi't vjsuevt epf qeos ov xovj uvjis qumodoit vjev csoph junimitt denqt, qsumogod fsah ati, epf sepfun fitvsadvoup epf woumipdi.

 

[OMDA]

Jux ot vji pixtmivvis cetif datvunis edraotovoup vjiti fezt? O tex tuni qiuqmi jisi nipvoup Tqeslmuuq, cav ov emtu eqqiest vjev tactvedl epf uvjis dupvipv neslivt tunivonit fu ximm.

 

[Raoul Duke]

Epzupi taqqminipvoph xovj dsievopi?

 

[machinistguy]

Epzupi taqqminipvoph xovj dsievopi?

O qav e vietquup op nz xevis iwiszfez. O puvodif e tmohjv onqsuwinipv op nipvem dmesovz.