POLL: Side effects from recent vaxcination? Or none?

[Antifragile]

The people running the government forcing others to do their will, obviously.



In all seriousness, there should not be "teams."

It reminds me of the “I won’t listen to you, because I’m open minded” when I see “teams” or “sides”. That’s the problem with absolutes and keyboard outrages.

The best way to identify cognitive dissonance is when people talk in terms of absolutes and certainties.

 

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[Flint]

In all seriousness, there should not be "teams."

It reminds me of the “I won’t listen to you, because I’m open minded” when I see “teams” or “sides”.

 

[Matt Sun]

Seriously just trust the experts, like this Pfizer scientist who dosn't know he is being recorded:

Nick Karl, a Pfizer scientist said natural Covid antibodies are probably better than the Covid vaccine in Project Veritas’ part 4 of their ExposeCovidVax series.

“When somebody is naturally immune — like they got COVID — they probably have more antibodies against the virus…When you actually get the virus, you’re going to start producing antibodies against multiple pieces of the virus…So, your antibodies are probably better at that point than the [COVID] vaccination,” Nick Karl said.

BREAKING: Project Veritas: Pfizer Scientists: ‘Your COVID Antibodies are Probably Better than the Pfizer Vaccination’ (VIDEO)

Project Veritas on Monday dropped another bombshell. Three Pfizer scientists told Project Veritas undercover journalists that natural antibodies are a better protection against Covid than the vaccine. Nick Karl, a Pfizer scientist said natural Covid antibodies are probably better than the Covid...

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[Kak]

I didn’t know we had teams. So, who’s winning?

Everyone is losing.

 

[Timmy C]

Seriously just trust the experts, like this Pfizer scientist who dosn't know he is being recorded:

Nick Karl, a Pfizer scientist said natural C0VlD antibodies are probably better than the C0VlD VAXClNE in Project Veritas’ part 4 of their ExposeCovidVax series.

“When somebody is naturally immune — like they got C0VlD — they probably have more antibodies against the virus…When you actually get the virus, you’re going to start producing antibodies against multiple pieces of the virus…So, your antibodies are probably better at that point than the [C0VlD] vaccination,” Nick Karl said.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/10/breaking-project-veritas-pfizer-scientists-C0VlD-antibodies-probably-better-pfizer-vaccination-video/

Alot of people dead with that superior natural immunity.

 

[Timmy C]

Kinda been left with no choice but to jab.

Get it next week and ill let you all know if I grow a second head or something.

 

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[Madame Peccato]

I got my 2nd shot on Friday and I'm doing great. The only negative effect was a sleepless night on Friday, but I can't tell you if it was the vaccine's fault or just an agitated night (I have those every now and then).

 

[Flint]

Kinda been left with no choice but to jab.

Get it next week and ill let you all know if I grow a second head or something.

Sorry to read you've been forced to it.

How's the job hunt/ networking/ escape plan going?

 

[Timmy C]

Sorry to read you've been forced to it.

How's the job hunt/ networking/ escape plan going?

I leave Australia in about 2 months so it's going well.

 

[ElleMg]

To those of you who did get it.... are you going to get the booster every 6 to 12 months?

Also worst case scenario if in 5 years the widespread research supports the preliminary and short-term research we're seeing censored, continues increasing likelihood of developing myocarditis, ADE, etc. and ultimately we discover the jab lowers your life-expectancy. What then?

 

[Timmy C]

. What then?

Oh well.

 

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[ElleMg]

Oh well.

I hope it's not true as so many people in my family have the shots, some will get the boosters some won't, I just hope the best case scenario isn't a life of pharmaceutical servitude in return for 'freedom'

 

[GPM]

@Fox I zoned out a little when I was reading, so I don't know if you've already done this, but have you seen a chiropractor? You could "have a rib out". Ribs can go out of alignment, and this can cause pain in the chest and back, and also nerve pain down the arm. My husband went through a similar experience at one time where he went to the ER for chest pain and then the chiropractor fixed it the next week in one visit.

I used to have this happen to me from time to time. Absolutely terrifying the first time it happened. It was like fire radiating out from my back, at the same time my breathing became more and more limited. I believe I went to emergency the first time. After that I also would go to chiro everytime it started to happened.

It's been a few years now since the last time.

 

[Antifragile]

To those of you who did get it.... are you going to get the booster every 6 to 12 months?

Also worst case scenario if in 5 years the widespread research supports the preliminary and short-term research we're seeing censored, continues increasing likelihood of developing myocarditis, ADE, etc. and ultimately we discover the jab lowers your life-expectancy. What then?

In the long run, we are all dead. Enjoy the present.

 

[MTF]

To those of you who did get it.... are you going to get the booster every 6 to 12 months?

Also worst case scenario if in 5 years the widespread research supports the preliminary and short-term research we're seeing censored, continues increasing likelihood of developing myocarditis, ADE, etc. and ultimately we discover the jab lowers your life-expectancy. What then?

What if you win the unlucky lottery and end up hospitalized with long-term health consequences or worse because your natural immunity didn't protect you as much as you had hoped? The risk goes both ways.

 

[GPM]

What if you win the unlucky lottery and end up hospitalized with long-term health consequences or worse because your natural immunity didn't protect you as much as you had hoped? The risk goes both ways.

This isn't natural immunity BEFORE you get COVID, but natural AFTER you get it and survive. The world is ignoring natural immunity obtained through antibodies. They want you to get the vaccine shot even after you have developed natural antibodies.

But yes, if you are high risk, waiting to get natural COVID could prove to be incredibly foolish. The fact that I see most people protesting the vaccine being morbidly obese worries me. Go work on your health before you start championing against something like a vaxine that may be a morbidly obese persons best chance against said virus

 

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[ElleMg]

What if you win the unlucky lottery and end up hospitalized with long-term health consequences or worse because your natural immunity didn't protect you as much as you had hoped? The risk goes both ways.

As @Antifragile said we all die.

Why would I increase the statistical chance of me dying by taking the shot?

My gut tells me to trust my immune system with millions of years of success versus a once or twice a year jab which failed animal testing repeatedly

 

[Matt Sun]

Alot of people dead with that superior natural immunity.

A lot of people alive thanks to it

 

[AceVentures]

Your options:

Take your chances with covid. If you catch it, have a treatment protocol readily available. Combat it like a champ. Some treatment protocols have 80-100% effectiveness rate.

Or opt for mRNA vaccine - allow Pfizer to give genetic instructions to every cell in your body and HOPE it has no potential side effects down the road.

Why trust nature, you know, the systems that have allowed us to get this far? When we can trust a group of elites that have engineered genetic mutations and put them in little vials for you and your children to take?

 

[GPM]

put them in little vials for you and your children to take?

Canada is wrapping up "data" on giving it to 5-11 year olds. Want to know what age it is to attend public schools? Anyone want to hazard a guess what the new requirements to go to school will be????

I know one other couple so far with a 5 year old who came to me, knowing nothing about my thoughts on education here, and wanted to know about what I am going to do with my children and if we are still planning on moving to Mexico. They don't want to live in Canada anymore based on how things are going. I hope Canada loses 30-40% of the tax base based on people not participating in the economy and these tyrant dictators shoot themselves in the foot.

 

[Antifragile]

@GPM - when are you moving to Mexico?

 

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[GPM]

@GPM - when are you moving to Mexico?

We are doing half Canada half Mexico. Already have a place down there that we rent. Plan right now is to spend half the year there, and warm months in Canada because it is beautiful here.

 

[AceVentures]

Have questions about the vaccine?

Stop what you're doing - and watch this in it's entirety.

Winning the War Against Therapeutic Nihilism & Trusted Treatments vs Untested Novel Therapies

Peter McCullough, MD, MPH speaks at the 78th Annual Meeting of AAPS on October 2, 2021. Slides: https://www.scribd.com/document/530328436/Slides-from-Peter-McCullough-MD-Oct-1-2021-Lecture Patient Gui

rumble.com

Stop being too busy to educate yourself.

Just listen to the first 10 minutes and see if there's any useful insights for you there. Quit waiting for the NIH, CDC, WHO and Fauci to give you protocols for how to act. Listen to the doctors on the ground that are treating this thing.

 

[Mattie]

I’ve had the Johnson VAXClNE. One dose in may. Best decision ever. Ive been having the summer of my life since then and wouldn’t take my decision back.

The riskiest VAXClNE was Astra and even it was 1 in 165.000 (based on german and English statistics)

The risk of your flight crashing is about 1 in 180 millions. For comparison.

My mom, who is 62 and who was suffering chronically from anemia because of psychological reasons, got not 2, not 3 but 4 shots. In Turkey, they used the Chinese VAXClNE, she got two Sinovac shots. Then she got one booster shot from Pfizer and one shot to be able to visit me in Germany. (Because eu doesn’t recognise Chinese shots)

We went to Austrian alps a month ago and she drove 200 km with me every day and she hiked every day at least 5 km. After 4 shots. This is a woman in 60s with malnutrition.

For all anti VAXClNE people here.

It has been in the news lately with Johnson & Johnson.

King County woman confirmed to have died from rare J&J vaccine complication

A King County woman in her late 30s has become the first person in Washington state, and fourth nationally, to die from a rare blood-clotting syndrome after receiving the Johnson & Johnson C0VlD-19 vaccine, local health officials said.

www.seattletimes.com

Slovenia suspends Johnson & Johnson vaccine after death

Slovenia on Wednesday suspended vaccinations with Johnson & Johnson after a 20-year-old woman died of a brain haemorrhage and blood clots just days after getting the jab.

medicalxpress.com

 

[Mattie]

Have questions about the VAXClNE?

Stop what you're doing - and watch this in it's entirety.

Winning the War Against Therapeutic Nihilism & Trusted Treatments vs Untested Novel Therapies

Peter McCullough, MD, MPH speaks at the 78th Annual Meeting of AAPS on October 2, 2021. Slides: https://www.scribd.com/document/530328436/Slides-from-Peter-McCullough-MD-Oct-1-2021-Lecture Patient Gui

rumble.com

Stop being too busy to educate yourself.

Just listen to the first 10 minutes and see if there's any useful insights for you there. Quit waiting for the NIH, CDC, WHO and Fauci to give you protocols for how to act. Listen to the doctors on the ground that are treating this thing.

Depends on the Physician. Some do not promote the Vaccine others do.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...-tell-patients-not-vaxinated-C0VlD-19/620024/

Then you have 160 Medications that could be used possibly.

https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news...ugs-that-could-be-repurposed-against-C0VlD-19

My main concern is if you need a booster every 6 months, the long-term side effects. Right now, you have the first two doses. They are talking about boosters now.

Then you have this article, we'll just make a whole entire new vaccine for 2022. The one you just had is not effective for 2022.

BioNTech CEO Says New Covid Vaccines Will Be Needed in 2022: FT

The head of BioNTech SE, the German company that developed the first C0VlD-19 vaccine, said a new formula is likely to be needed by mid-2022 to protect against future mutations of the virus.

www.bloomberg.com

Then you have vaxinated people in the hospital.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/hea...ents-with-virus-are-fully-vaxinated-1.4670229

https://www.beckershospitalreview.c...ts-in-israel-fully-vaxinated-study-finds.html

This just is some interesting stuff happening with Vaccines.

I still haven't signed up.

 

[AceVentures]

Depends on the Physician. Some do not promote the VAXClNE others do.

When ‘Talk to Your Doctor’ Goes So, So Wrong

Vanishingly few people have legitimate reasons to avoid C0VlD-19 vaccination. Some say their doctors told them not to get vaxinated anyway.

www.theatlantic.com

Then you have 160 Medications that could be used possibly.

Research news

www.cam.ac.uk

My main concern is if you need a booster every 6 months, the long-term side effects. Right now, you have the first two doses. They are talking about boosters now.

Then you have this article, we'll just make a whole entire new VAXClNE for 2022. The one you just had is not effective for 2022.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-03/biontech-ceo-says-new-C0VlD-vaccines-will-be-needed-in-2022-ft

Then you have vaxinated people in the hospital.

Covid: 54% of hospital patients with virus are fully vaccinated

Rising proportion of vaxinated people in hospital reflects greater numbers in population getting vaccines

www.irishtimes.com

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/nearly-60-of-hospitalized-C0VlD-19-patients-in-israel-fully-vaxinated-study-finds.html

This just is some interesting stuff happening with Vaccines.

I still haven't signed up.

Did you watch the video?

 

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[Mattie]

Depends on the Physician. Some do not promote the VAXClNE others do.

When ‘Talk to Your Doctor’ Goes So, So Wrong

Vanishingly few people have legitimate reasons to avoid C0VlD-19 vaccination. Some say their doctors told them not to get vaxinated anyway.

www.theatlantic.com

Then you have 160 Medications that could be used possibly.

Research news

www.cam.ac.uk

My main concern is if you need a booster every 6 months, the long-term side effects. Right now, you have the first two doses. They are talking about boosters now.

Then you have this article, we'll just make a whole entire new VAXClNE for 2022. The one you just had is not effective for 2022.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-03/biontech-ceo-says-new-C0VlD-vaccines-will-be-needed-in-2022-ft

Then you have vaxinated people in the hospital.

Covid: 54% of hospital patients with virus are fully vaccinated

Rising proportion of vaxinated people in hospital reflects greater numbers in population getting vaccines

www.irishtimes.com

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/nearly-60-of-hospitalized-C0VlD-19-patients-in-israel-fully-vaxinated-study-finds.html

This just is some interesting stuff happening with Vaccines.

Thank you. I missed the video. Watching it now!

 

[Antifragile]

@AceVentures genuinely curious, why do you think that the chloride thing you used on yourself isn't practiced by the whole world in hospitals?

 

[Mattie]

Did you watch the video?

I loved the Video. I hope more Physicians start standing up and speaking up. You can't stand by and watch medical and mental health errors be passed by.

 

[AceVentures]

@AceVentures genuinely curious, why do you think that the chloride thing you used on yourself isn't practiced by the whole world in hospitals?

Perhaps because there are battle tested solutions like ivermecrin and hydroxychloroquine that seem to address covid very well. These solutions have undergone more rigorous studies in humans. The discovery of ivermectin was literally a Nobel prize winner.

I believe with the decentralization of scientific data we will begin to see meritocracy lead more breakthroughs in science.

As more studies emerge, we will also begin to see if CL02 is a useful solution for use in human beings. For the treatment of covid and maybe some of the other claims such as its use for the treatment of malaria. My experience and what I've learned about it suggest that although the random trialed and double blind studies haven't emerged yet, the use of it in humans at the right dose is not only safe but empirical data suggests positive outcomes in treatment of harmful viruses, fungi and bacteria.

By eliminating political and financial constraints on the science, we might begin to see not only CL02 but perhaps even other forms of magic using advanced biochemistry and other emerging fields of medicine.

This requires time and open mindedness.

I'm not a doctor - I wear no white lab coat - I claim no certainty around the ideas I share - I do not suggest anybody do what I do.

This is a snapshot in time of how I see the world. I will continue to educate myself and learn more as the story unfolds.