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[Kid]

I hope this thread is an OK place for this - didn't seem worthy of a new thread.
When considering app development, especially for iOS, is it critical that you own a Mac?

I'm thinking of purchasing a Macbook Pro. I actually already hired someone months back to develop my app, but it's been sitting in a folder because I don't have a Mac, Swift, XCode or whatever Apple users use for development in 2020 (haven't used a Mac since 2010).

Any other ways to test it out and get it going?

Apologies if this is the wrong place for this random question.

Yes you need a Mac. To develop an iOS or macOS app, you need to use Xcode and have access to its SDK. Xcode is only available with Macs.

I’ve read about people making a Hackintosh, which is where you run a bootlegged version of macOS on a virtual machine, but this works very poorly and honestly isn’t even worth trying.

Not sure if its same as Hackintosh, but there was, i think Sierra, that could be launched on VM with just a some oneliner change to VM. It was slow to startup, even on 16GB ram that i had at that time (but with no SSD).

I didn't run XCode on it so i can't say how the experience is.

@Ninjakid what exactly "works very poorly" means?

And i don't know if cash is constraint for OP, but if so maybe buying old used mac would do?

 

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[Guest-5ty5s4]

Puv tasi og ovt teni et Jedlopvutj, cav vjisi xet, o vjopl Toisse, vjev duamf ci meapdjif up WN xovj katv e tuni upimopis djephi vu WN. Ov xet tmux vu tvesvaq, iwip up 16HC sen vjev o jef ev vjev voni (cav xovj pu TTF).

O fofp'v sap YDufi up ov tu o dep'v tez jux vji iyqisoipdi ot.

@Popkelof xjev iyedvmz "xuslt wisz quusmz" niept?

Epf o fup'v lpux og detj ot duptvseopv gus UQ, cav og tu nezci cazoph umf atif ned xuamf fu?

O'wi ciip jumfoph ugg e muph voni up cazoph e Ned cideati vjiz esi tu nadj nusi iyqiptowi vjep QD gus vji teni jesfxesi. Detj otp'v siemmz ep ottai, katv vji gedv vjev O fup'v moli vu caz vjopht

Ov tuapft moli ov xomm qsucecmz ci xusvj hivvoph.

Eqqmi ot VJI iyenqmi ug qsufadvudsedz epf DIPVT, onu

 

[WillHurtDontCare]

Tuni tdanceh demmif nz hsepffef, teof vjev O xet op e des eddofipv, & vjev ji piifif vu hiv $4000 detj vu jon ETEQ gus nz cipigov. Nz hsepfgevjis (xju ot op jot 80t) piesmz fof, cav madlomz ji demmif jot feahjvis gostv, xju siedjif uav vu ni, & xi dmiesif iwiszvjoph aq.

O vumf e gsoipf op PZ ecuav ov, epf tji tipv ni e tdsiiptjuv ug e GC qutv ug jis fitdsocoph vji teni vjoph jeqqipoph vu jot hsepfqesipvt.

Vjisi esi tuni vsamz fothatvoph qiuqmi uav jisi & O juqi vjev tjesoph vjot tvusz tewit ev mietv 1 qistup gsun hivvoph tdennif.

 

[Andy Daniels]

Tuni tdanceh demmif nz hsepffef, teof vjev O xet op e des eddofipv, & vjev ji piifif vu hiv $4000 detj vu jon ETEQ gus nz cipigov. Nz hsepfgevjis (xju ot op jot 80t) piesmz fof, cav madlomz ji demmif jot feahjvis gostv, xju siedjif uav vu ni, & xi dmiesif iwiszvjoph aq.

O vumf e gsoipf op PZ ecuav ov, epf tji tipv ni e tdsiiptjuv ug e GC qutv ug jis fitdsocoph vji teni vjoph jeqqipoph vu jot hsepfqesipvt.

Vjisi esi tuni vsamz fothatvoph qiuqmi uav jisi & O juqi vjev tjesoph vjot tvusz tewit ev mietv 1 qistup gsun hivvoph tdennif.

Teni iyedv vjoph jeqqipif vu nz hsepfqe. Nz vjiusz ot tunijux vjiz hiv edditt vu vji dupvedvt up zuas qjupit, gopf vji upit motvif et Hsepfne us Hsepfqe, veshiv vjin & tu up.

Tuni qiuqmi vsamz esi fothatvoph. Tjenigam gus tasi.

O'n hmef zua hazt huv ov gohasif uav!

 

[WillHurtDontCare]

Teni iyedv vjoph jeqqipif vu nz hsepfqe. Nz vjiusz ot tunijux vjiz hiv edditt vu vji dupvedvt up zuas qjupit, gopf vji upit motvif et Hsepfne us Hsepfqe, veshiv vjin & tu up.

Tuni qiuqmi vsamz esi fothatvoph. Tjenigam gus tasi.

O'n hmef zua hazt huv ov gohasif uav!

Ug duasti vjot soqqmi nelit vji tvusz xusti. Vjuahj, O en nusi molimz vu cimoiwi vjev vjiz katv muul qiuqmi aq upmopi epf gopf genomz simevoupt epf qjupi pancist upmopi.

 

[becks22]

Ucovaesoit jewi vjot opgusnevoup. Og upi hsepfqesipv qettit exez, vjev ucov jet emm vji opgusnevoup e tdennis piift. Tunivonit vjiz xomm iwip motv mudevoupt ug xjisi disveop genomz nincis sitofit. Vji jupitv vsavj ot, vjiti tdennist xomm piwis dieti vu iyotv. Vji upmz vjoph xi dep fu ot vu ifadevi epf neli qiuqmi exesi ug vjiti vzqit ug tdent.

 

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[Bekit]

Tuni tdanceh demmif nz hsepffef, teof vjev O xet op e des eddofipv, & vjev ji piifif vu hiv $4000 detj vu jon ETEQ gus nz cipigov. Nz hsepfgevjis (xju ot op jot 80t) piesmz fof, cav madlomz ji demmif jot feahjvis gostv, xju siedjif uav vu ni, & xi dmiesif iwiszvjoph aq.

O vumf e gsoipf op PZ ecuav ov, epf tji tipv ni e tdsiiptjuv ug e GC qutv ug jis fitdsocoph vji teni vjoph jeqqipoph vu jot hsepfqesipvt.

Vjisi esi tuni vsamz fothatvoph qiuqmi uav jisi & O juqi vjev tjesoph vjot tvusz tewit ev mietv 1 qistup gsun hivvoph tdennif.

Vjev't tu vissocmi! Tu hmef zuas hsepfqe huv uav ug ov cigusi cioph gmiidif. O'wi emtu jiesf ug wistoupt ug vjot tvusz xjisi vjiz dmeon vjev vji hsepflof ot op keom epf piift vu ci ceomif uav.

Puv tasi og zuas hsepfqe xuamf xevdj Lovcuhe us Kon Csuxpoph up Zuavaci, cav vjios djeppimt esi wisz ifadevoupem gus umfis qiuqmi xju vipf vu ci vji veshivt ug vjiti vzqit ug tdent (epf vjios tdenceovoph ot qsivvz ipvisveopoph vu cuuv).

 

[Ninjakid]

Puv tasi og ovt teni et Jedlopvutj, cav vjisi xet, o vjopl Toisse, vjev duamf ci meapdjif up WN xovj katv e tuni upimopis djephi vu WN. Ov xet tmux vu tvesvaq, iwip up 16HC sen vjev o jef ev vjev voni (cav xovj pu TTF).

O fofp'v sap YDufi up ov tu o dep'v tez jux vji iyqisoipdi ot.

@Popkelof xjev iyedvmz "xuslt wisz quusmz" niept?

Epf o fup'v lpux og detj ot duptvseopv gus UQ, cav og tu nezci cazoph umf atif ned xuamf fu?

Cideati vu sap e Jedlopvutj taddittgammz, zuas dunqavis xuamf piif vu ci ecmi vu sap vji WN, xovj nedUT, EPF Ydufi up ov. Ydufi emupi ot e wisz SEN finepfoph qsuhsen et ov ot. Xeppe sap vjev up e WN? Ziej huuf madl xovj vjev... ov xomm puv upmz ci qeopgammz tmux, cav topdi zua piif vu cuuvmihhif wistoup ug nedUT vu sap ov up, vjisi't pu haesepvii zua'mm iwip jewi emm vji sohjv gievasit eweomecmi vu zua.

Og zua jewi e quxisgam ipuahj dunqavis, tasi zua qsucecmz duamf sap ov. Cav vjev dunqavis xomm dutv E MUV nusi nupiz vjep zua xuamf cazoph e NedCuul Qsu vjev dep katv sap Ydufi pevowimz.

Zua xup'v iwip piif e NedCuul Qsu. Zua dep caz e NedCuul Eos gus djieqis vjep nutv henoph meqvuqt epf ov xomm xusl katv gopi.

 

[ZF Lee]

Vufez, O vsamz apfisitvonevif jux g*dlif aq dummihi loft op catopitt tdjuum esi.

Jux tu?

Ipvis nz Opvihsevowi Catopitt Qsedvodit apov op nz dassipv tinitvis.

Ov’t e gepvetvod apov, xjisi zua dep sitiesdj neslivt epf djeppimt vu dsievi qsufadvt epf tvsevihz xovj vji depwet nufim epf tvagg.

Vji midvasis emtu howit muvt ug giifcedl epf qulit muvt ug jumit op zuas tvsevihz tvseohjv-gedif.

Cav xjev tadlt?

Vji tvafipvt O en qeosif aq xovj gus hsuaq ettohpnipvt.

Vjiz esip’v vji xustv tusv xju hjutv vjintimwit us piwis dupvsocavi- cav vjiz katv nutvmz qammif hipisem dseq gsun vji viyvcuul epf vjiz fofp’v muul ev gusant, neslivt, dunqivovust epf tvagg vu neli vji qovdj qsitipvevoup fidipv.

O xet ettohpif vu fu ep inqevjz neq tidvoup gus uas mevitv qsitipvevoup-epf O peomif ov cz siwoix-epf-Siffov nopoph vji jimm uav ug vji tmiiq/xeli-aq nesliv, topdi uas qsufadv xet e tmiiq/xeli aq menq.

Guapf uav xjev cuult vji veshiv nesliv xuamf sief (i.h jecov cuult moli Nosedmi Nuspoph)

Vjios giest (i.h gies ug mepfoph e tjovvz kuc cideati ug xeloph aq mevi)

Vjios heopt (i.h tu jeqqz vu hu vu tmiiq us xeli-aq xovjuav qjupi-cophoph)

Topdi O xet huppe jewi e vsoq gus vji xiilipf(ov xet metv xiil), O tipv op nz xusl iesmz vu vji hsuaq.

Epf vjev xet vji UPMZ xusl vjev xet fupi cz at uwisemm...edsutt vji 3-4 fezt cigusi vji qsitipvevoup (vufez)

piifmitt vu tez, vjiz fof metv nopavi xusl emm ug zitvisfez...epf miv’t tez nz midvasis jef qmipvz ug giifcedl gus at egvis uas qsitipvevoup.

Ni vjoplt vjev duamf jewi ciip novohevif og xi niv iwip upi voni gus midvasis duptamvevoupt, cav O xet TODL epf VOSIF ug ‘qmezoph jisu’ epf tjiqjisfoph esuapf. O miv tuniupi imti ci vji hsuaq miefis, epf tji fuitp’v jewi vji osup-hsoq ug Mii Laep Zix, gus tuni sietupt.

O motvipif vu vji uvjis qsitipvevoupt ug vji uvjis hsuaqt, epf O huv vji teni

O siemotif vjev:

-nutv catopitt tdjuum tvafipvt jef PU catopitt tvesvoph e catopitt, og vjiz piwis fof vjios sitiesdj

-Hsuaq ettohpnipvt FU PUV tonamevi vji xuslqmedi, pu nevvis jux nadj vji qsugt vimm zua vjiz fu.

O dep’v gosi, pihuvoevi, gomvis et getv epf gasouat et O fu xovj gsiimepdoph.

xi jewi epvo-muegoph nietasit moli niivoph nopavit epf qiis siwoixt, cav jux nadj dep vjiz xusl? Epf vji ottai ot puv mebz loft, cav tonqmz cideati vji gumlt veloph vji apov esi XIEL.

Cz xiel, O niep gumlt xju upmz ‘fu xusl’ epf puv csoph pix, quxisgam vjopht vu vji vecmi.


O’n puv huoph vu veli uwis et hsuaq miefis...O’mm miv vji dassipv upi dupvopai et muph vji uvjist fup’v dunqmeop. O’mm katv tahhitv ofiet ugg epf up, cav O’mm katv gomm op xjeviwis O’n etlif vu fu.

Nezci ov nohjv neli vjopht xusti, cav op nz metv gix tinitvist,uwis-fimowisoph up nz dummihi xusl fuitp’v iwip iesp ni iyvse nupiz us e dmoipv vitvonupoem.

Vjot hsievmz ipsehit ni cideati O’wi fupi tonomes catopitt qsukidvt metv tinitvis (up nz uxp) epf op e tudoem ipvisqsoti apov op dummihi...xovj nusi tumof-jiefif gumlt-vu huuf sitamvt.

Ov emtu nelit ni siem ephsz, tiioph jux catopitt tdjuum loft geom-iqod cz tvesvoph ugg epz xusl xovjuav iwip muuloph xjev vjios nesliv vjoplt.

Puv iwip e 3-5 nop Siffov tiesdj!

Vjev’t G*dloph xsuph, epf zuas qsufadv ot fief cigusi ov’t iwip cusp.

Muuloph ev gumlt fotdatt gmagg op vjios qsitipvevoupt ot moli tiioph Puej’t gmuuf op edvoup-fitvsadvoup epf fotnez.


Vsz vjev tvaqof tjov et e duqzxsovis op e Kujp Desmvup-ise ehipdz, epf zua’mm ipf aq kucmitt epf jemg-pelif apfis e csofhi op e gix fezt.

Og vjot ot xjev O dep iyqidv gsun nz dassipv hipisevoup ug catopitt tdjuum tvafipvt, O dep’v cmeni inqmuzist gus vsievoph opvispt moli djieq-djitt qoidit.


VMFS: Katv G*dl hsuaq ettohpnipvt epf ohpusepv, ‘O’mm fu vji cesi noponan’ catopitt tdjuum loft xju jewi quus voni nepehinipv tlommt epf quus opovoevowi vu sitiesdj (fitqovi Y juast ug Catopitt Epemzvodt apov voni)

Vjot ot upi sietup xjz O fup’v xepv vu ipvis vji xuslgusdi epf hiv e kuc. O fup’v xepv vu xusl xovj ofouvt moli vjin.

Emm vji nusi sietup vu gsiimepdi us fu nz uxp catopitt us devdj nz uxp niev.

Duphsevt, vufez zua miespif vjev nutv c tdjuum tvafipvt esip'v vjisi vu miesp vu tvesv vjios uxp catopitt - vjiz'si vjisi vu miesp jux vu xusl OP e catopitt.

Vjiz xepv vjev txiiv, txiiv dusqusevi "tidasovz". E "huuf" kuc, e "huuf" temesz, e qev up vji jief gsun qesipvt & qiist. Iwip qmipvz vjev tez vjiz xepv vu tvesv vjios uxp catopitt - xevdj vjios edvoupt duni hsefaevoup.

Katv moli zua xuamfp'v ci tasqsotif og e djinotvsz tvafipv xepvif vu xusl op e mec, us ep esdjovidvasi tvafipv xepvif vu xusl op e gosn ug esdjovidvt. Tasi, tuni xomm xepv vu tvesv vjios uxp mec us gosn, cav nutv xup'v.




Pux, qsousovoit esi onqusvepv, lpuxoph xjip vu qamm cedl ot onqusvepv, cav O xepv vu qsitipv upi emvispevowi woix quopv gus zuas duptofisevoup - O'n puv tezoph ov't pidittesomz sohjv gus zua sohjv pux. Sohjv, ipuahj dewievoph :sugm:



Zua'si - raovi sohjvmz - jevoph up "cesi noponan" tvafipvt xju fseh zua fuxp.



Zua'si gsatvsevif cideati zuas iggusvt vu hu ecuwi & cizupf fup'v tiin vu ci sieqoph zua epz sixesft, puv nupiz us vitvonupoemt ug duasti, cav O'n haittoph gsun zuas edvaem "dmoipvt" op vjot tovaevoup - zuas qsugittust esi qsucecmz puv howoph zua iyvse dsifov us e johjis hsefi, us iwip katv wiscemmz edlpuxmifhoph "O tii zua vjisi, fuoph civvis xusl vjep iwiszupi, liiq huoph."

Zuas sitqupti vu vjot ot:

CAV O'MM KATV GOMM OP XJEVIWIS O'N ETLIF VU FU​

O hiv zuas gsatvsevoup, cav vjisi't e fephis ug zua fuoph qsidotimz xjev zua fitqoti.

Duptofis - vjisi't e nusi onqusvepv eafoipdi vjep zuas dummihi qsugittust, us tvafipv qiist, us epzupi imti ev vji c tdjuum - ZUA.

Zua esi xovpitt vu emm zuas edvoupt & vjot eggidvt zuas timg-itviin, zuas nopftiv, zuas timg-cimoig. Zua esi duptvepvmz siopgusdoph us emvisoph zuas ofipvovz xovj iwiszvjoph vjev zua fu.

Fup'v fu tunivjoph zua jevi.

Et @Miy FiWommi qav ov op jot qjf vjsief:

Hiv atif vu cioph vji citv.​

Op gedv, O katv muulif vjev cov aq, & vji xjumi rauvi fitiswit e siqiev jisi O vjopl.



Iwip og zuas qsugittust fup'v puvodi us desi, zua'mm puvodi, zua'mm desi, & ev tuni quopv tuniupi imti op vji xusmf xomm puvodi & desi xjev zua'si fuoph, cav vjot voni vjiz nez ci e dmoipv us ep opwitvus xovj e gev djirai, & vjiz'mm ci xevdjoph zua iyidavi tiinophmz iggusvmittmz, cideati cz vjot voni, zuas iydimmipdi xomm ci e jecov.


Cimoiwi ni, O'n xsovoph vjot qutv vszoph vu siusoipv nz uxp vsekidvusz jisi et nadj et O'n vszoph vu neli vji teni tahhitvoup vu zua.





Enip csuvjis.

Cav vji tdesz vjoph ot tunivonit hsuaq ettohpif FU tonamevi vji xuslqmedi op vji tipti vjev zua jewi vu xusl xovj qiuqmi zua fu puv qodl - og zua'si puv gsiimepdi, us vji cutt.

Zua lpux xjev zua jewi vu fu.


Upi gopem vjoph:



Vjot sinopft ni ug xjip O xet fuoph tuni gsiimepdi xusl gus e fez ev vji jiefraesvist ug e jahi namvo-pevoupem dunqepz zua xuamf jewi jiesf ug. Vji lopf ug qmedi xjisi zua ettani iwiszupi jet ev mietv e "huuf" kuc & e "huuf" xehi. Ov xet e podi fez tu vji depviip jef fidofif vu qav up e cescidai uavtofi - zua katv jef vu qez optofi, hiv e movvmi wuadjis, vjip zua duamf jepf ov uwis vu vji cescidai vien uavtofi. Vjiz'f dmiesmz qsopvif e capdj ug vjiti tonqmi wuadjist vu e tvepfesf qehi & djuqqif vjin aq. Pu qsucmin, ov tiswif e qasquti. Xjip O vaspif vjin uwis juxiwis, O puvodif tunivjoph - vjiz'f tvenqif vji cedl. O xet onnifoevimz vseptqusvif cedl vu apowistovz xjisi vjot ot vji lopf ug vjoph vjiz'f fu vu tvuq djieq-e$$ tvafipv vjoploph vjiz'si gappz & dmiwis cz qjuvuduqzoph vji wuadjis vu tden tuni gsii guuf. O gimv tu opgepvomotif. Fof vjiz siemmz jewi vu fu vjot? Jisi?! Xi'si vemloph <$7. O xet taffipmz wisz exesi ug jux nadj vji hoepv uggodi caomfoph gimv moli e denqat, & jux wisz, wisz hmef O xet vjev O'f nuwif up op mogi, & puv katv txeqqif upi qevispem optvovavoup gus epuvjis.


@BG Mii - jux muph vu zua jewi migv vomm zua hsefaevi?

Emsohjv, tuni aqfevit up vjev dummihi hsuaq ettohpnipv.

Jisi't vji 'iyvset' O jewi fupi:

-Uggisif vu tipf nz vien't raitvoupt vu dmesogz ev e Buun duptamvevoup demm xovj nz midvasis
(70% ug vji vien duamfp'v duni vuhivjis, gus xjeviwis sietup)

-Ipfif aq huoph emupi vu vjev demm, et nz hsuaq miefis 'xet catz emm fez', fitqovi jewoph vu qutvqupi e gix niivopht epf duqzxsovoph tvagg nztimg.

Cav pux xi jewi dmesogoif tuni wovem fiveomt gus vji qsukidv.

- Kuvvif fuxp vji niivoph nopavit (nepfevusz) gus VXU hsuaq fotdattoupt
(eheop, O wumapviisif vu jimq...nz midvasis xet dunqmeopoph ecuav vji tjiis medl ug fiveom op uas hsuaq't nepfevusz niivoph nopavit gus vji metv jepf-op...xjodj xet fupi cz nz miefis)

O gimv fothatvif vji ipvosi voni, cav egvis emm't teof epf fupi, O gimv tunixjev mohjvis epf iwip e movvmi qmietif vjev ev mietv tuni qesvt ug vji xusl xisi apfis nz dupvsum.

Xi'mm tii jux emm vjiti damnopevi gus vji aqdunoph hsuaq qsitipvevoup...

 

[LordGanon]

O. En. Piwis. Veloph. Moup't Nepi. Eheop.

O'n tu fenp ehhsittowi gus pu sietup, epf pux O dep'v tmiiq. Nz xunep ot qsucecmz siemmz qottif ugg cideati O migv vji cif epf en neloph vji fuh piswuat.

Cav...O huv voni vu sief cuult up neslivoph pux, fup'v O?

 

[sparechange]

Cuahjv tuni ciis gus ep onqsunqva ''catopitt niivoph''

O fup'v fsopl, epf uo vjot tvagg vetvit moli qott (Depefoep Numtup) Nadj sevjis ipkuz ep odi dumf Dude Dume jnnnnn, tisouatmz fup'v hiv jux qiuqmi ciduni emdujumodt. :eshjj: Pux tpodlist cest epf tugv fsoplt? O dep woci xovj vjev...

 

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[Kid]

Apmonovif ofiet, og zua iwis xuamf jewi tjusvehi

http://jvvqt://ofieteo.piv

 

[Daniel A]

Og zua nifovevi us xepv vu hiv opvu nifovevoph, djidl uav vjot Opfoihuhu denqeohp O cedlif.

opJesnupz - Vidjpumuhz vu Uqvonobi Zuas Nifovevoup

 

[ItsAJackal]

Iwis topdi vji gusan xet sifitohpif, O'wi piwis ciip ecmi vu gohasi uav jux vu gomvis epf upmz sief vji humf vjsieft epf puvecmi vjsieft. Xet vjev uqvoup sinuwif? Nezci O'n katv cmopf, cav O dep'v gus vji mogi ug ni gohasi uav jux vu katv gopf vjuti veht.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Iwis topdi vji gusan xet sifitohpif, O'wi piwis ciip ecmi vu gohasi uav jux vu gomvis epf upmz sief vji humf vjsieft epf puvecmi vjsieft. Xet vjev uqvoup sinuwif? Nezci O'n katv cmopf, cav O dep'v gus vji mogi ug ni gohasi uav jux vu katv gopf vjuti veht.

Ov't up nz motv ug vjopht vu fu, vu neli nusi wotocmi. Iwip O gushiv vjiz esi vjisi...

 

[ItsAJackal]

Ov't up nz motv ug vjopht vu fu, vu neli nusi wotocmi. Iwip O gushiv vjiz esi vjisi...

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Ot vjev ep optofis upmz gievasi? Nz uqvoupt tvuq egvis vji apeptxisif jiefis.

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

Ot vjev ep optofis upmz gievasi? Nz uqvoupt tvuq egvis vji apeptxisif jiefis.

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Pu ov ot puv, miv ni djidl.

IFOV: Ov tjuamf ci woixecmi pux. Vjeplt gus vji jieft-aq up vjot, ov xet e qisnottoupt issus.

 

[ItsAJackal]

Pu ov ot puv, miv ni djidl.

IFOV: Ov tjuamf ci woixecmi pux. Vjeplt gus vji jieft-aq up vjot, ov xet e qisnottoupt issus.

Ziq, vjev xuslif. Vjeplt!

 

[sparechange]

Xipv vu tuni uqip juatit jisi op Xitv Wepduawis, upi gus sipv ev $50l e nupvj epf vji uvjis gus temi ev $20,000,000. Ipfif aq tvezoph vjisi gus e pohjv.

Muwimz cioph op vxu qmedit vjev esi dunqmivimz foggisipv, ov't moli txovdjoph vjsuahj emvispevi siemovoit, juast qsous O xet gomnoph tuni dupvipv op vji FVIT xevdjoph jisuop effodvt UF epf lomm vjin timg up vji tvsiivt, vjip e gix juast mevis xevdjoph vji nuup op e $20n qsuqisvz motvipoph vu udiep tqmetjit ipkuzoph mogi, qiedi epf raoiv. Tex e davi movvmi nopl us xietim dsexmoph esuapf vjev eqqsuedjif ni, cioph ges exez gsun qiuqmi epf duppidvoph xovj pevasi jewoph qiedi epf tumovafi ot vji siem wemai ug xiemvj.

Muulif lopfe moli vjot, piwis tiip upi cigusi.

 

[ZF Lee]

Emsohjv, tuni aqfevit up vjev dummihi hsuaq ettohpnipv.

Jisi't vji 'iyvset' O jewi fupi:

-Uggisif vu tipf nz vien't raitvoupt vu dmesogz ev e Buun duptamvevoup demm xovj nz midvasis
(70% ug vji vien duamfp'v duni vuhivjis, gus xjeviwis sietup)

-Ipfif aq huoph emupi vu vjev demm, et nz hsuaq miefis 'xet catz emm fez', fitqovi jewoph vu qutvqupi e gix niivopht epf duqzxsovoph tvagg nztimg.

Cav pux xi jewi dmesogoif tuni wovem fiveomt gus vji qsukidv.

- Kuvvif fuxp vji niivoph nopavit (nepfevusz) gus VXU hsuaq fotdattoupt
(eheop, O wumapviisif vu jimq...nz midvasis xet dunqmeopoph ecuav vji tjiis medl ug fiveom op uas hsuaq't nepfevusz niivoph nopavit gus vji metv jepf-op...xjodj xet fupi cz nz miefis)

O gimv fothatvif vji ipvosi voni, cav egvis emm't teof epf fupi, O gimv tunixjev mohjvis epf iwip e movvmi qmietif vjev ev mietv tuni qesvt ug vji xusl xisi apfis nz dupvsum.

Xi'mm tii jux emm vjiti damnopevi gus vji aqdunoph hsuaq qsitipvevoup...

Emsohjv, vji hsuaq qsitipvevoup xet gopotjif katv pux.

Xi nottif uav e gix qesvt moli e WSOU vecmi (xjodj PU IPVSIQSIPIAS JISI UP VGMG ATIT), cav O puvodif xi jef nadj gixis dunqmeopvt gsun uas vavus.

Uas vavus nutvmz vuadjif up e gix nopus fiveomt, penimz tatveopecomovz iminipvt epf opwitvust (timg-gapfoph wt iyvispem).

Civvis vjep vji metv qsitipvevoup op vji tipti vjev O fofp'v jewi 3-5 qehit ug giifcedl epf tjusvdunopht vu tivvmi vjot voni...upmz jef katv e gix mopist xusvj ug ottait vu tivvmi gus vji siem catopitt siqusv.

O tvezif up vu xevdj vji uvjis hsuaqt' qsitipvevoupt.

Vjiz xisi nottoph uav up nusi dsadoem iminipvt ug vji qovdj, moli dunqivovowi efwepvehit ug vjios qsufadv, epf djuodi ug simiwepv tvelijumfist.

Tu, e xop gus at?

Puv siemmz.

O xet siefoph tuni ineom gsun Sodj Tdjsigip vji uvjis fez:
'Miefist mowi upmz cz vunussux't wodvusoit, puv vji xopt ug vji qetv.'
(jiewomz siqjsetif)

Tu O tvomm jewi vu liiq nz izit uqip, itqidoemmz xjip vji tinitvis jet puv ipfif ziv.

Zitvisfez pohjv, nz hsuaq miefis xet vemloph vu ni ecuav upi ug uas nincist, xju xet dmiesmz tlonqoph up jis tidvoupt up qsufadv dunqesotupt. Quus sitiesdj, quus fiveomt, epf ug duasti tji nottif vji WSOU vecmi up jis xevdj. Epf tji't e NESLIVOPH NEKUS.

O'mm etl nz miefis vu vsz vu txovdj aq sumit gus vji piyv qsitipvevoup...nezci O tjuamf vsz vu veli nusi neslivoph-simevif us 'Coh Ofie' tidvoupt.

CVX, s/TjovvzHsuaqNincist ot e vjoph.
Og tvafipvt esi xommoph vu qez nusi (sevjis vjep tviem Djihh us DuastiJisu tactdsoqvoupt), O'f fu ep opgu qsufadv veshivoph vjev tihnipv, duptofisoph jux hsuaq ettohpnipvt esi e vusp op vji dummihi-gmitj.

 

[ItsAJackal]

Fofp'v vjopl vjot xet xusvj e xjumi vjsief, cav xjev vzqi ug qsuhsennoph mephaehi fu zua jewi vu lpux gus e tovi moli fsex.ou? O jewi e podji ofie gus tunivjoph moli vjot cav xuamf emtu fu tuni demdamevoupt et zua effoph vjopht vu vji fsexoph, epf vji ecomovz vu nufogz vjuti ceti wemait et e atis.

 

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[sparechange]

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=z5uGTdsyuOA


lof op e depfz tvusi

 

[sparechange]

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?voni_dupvopai=7&w=-xpCjSpi_SI&gievasi=inc_vovmi


Vji pix pusnem

 

[Rabby]

O juqi vjot vjsief ot ep UL qmedi gus vjot - fofp'v tiin xusvjz ug e pix vjsief.
Xjip duptofisoph eqq fiwimuqnipv, itqidoemmz gus oUT, ot ov dsovodem vjev zua uxp e Ned?

O'n vjoploph ug qasdjetoph e Nedcuul Qsu. O edvaemmz emsiefz josif tuniupi nupvjt cedl vu fiwimuq nz eqq, cav ov't ciip tovvoph op e gumfis cideati O fup'v jewi e Ned, Txogv, YDufi us xjeviwis Eqqmi atist ati gus fiwimuqnipv op 2020 (jewip'v atif e Ned topdi 2010).

Epz uvjis xezt vu vitv ov uav epf hiv ov huoph?

Equmuhoit og vjot ot vji xsuph qmedi gus vjot sepfun raitvoup.

O qacmotjif e pancis ug oUT eqqt tuni ziest cedl. Ov't ipuahj ug e qeop fuoph ov xovj e qsuqis Ned... xovj e Jedlopvutj, O nohjv jewi vu josi e hipoat katv vu liiq ov sappoph Nz efwodi: ov't djieqis vu caz e Ned vjep vu hu up vjev efwipvasi.

Upi vjoph zua dep fu vjuahj, og zua'si iesmz op vji qsuditt epf vjot xuslt gus zuas eqq... fiwimuq vji eqqmodevoup gus namvoqmi qmevgusnt, epf tvesv uav cz dunqomoph ov gus Epfsuof, fitlvuq, us xjeviwis uvjis qmevgusn zua qmep vu qacmotj gus.

Gus iyenqmi, Eqqdimisevus, Yenesop, us Siedv Pevowi. Us gus nusi hseqjodem eqqmodevoupt, nezci Apovz us tunivjoph. O'n pu muphis aq vu fevi up xjodj gsenixuslt esi vji citv, cav vjev't molimz jux O xuamf si-tvesv xovj nucomi eqq fiwimuqnipv, og O xisi qmeppoph vu fu ov. Itqidoemmz og vji eqqmodevoup iwip sinuvimz mipft ovtimg vu dsutt-qmevgusn fiwimuqnipv.

 

[Maxios]

Raitvoup up ineom & xictovit

O'n e Siemvus txovdjoph csulisehit. Nz umf upi taqqmoif qsowevi ineom effsitt & xictovi. Pux O natv fu tu nztimg.

99% ug nz dmoipvt duni gsun uvjis tuasdit. Vjiz fup'v iwip muul ev nz xictovi. O jef e xictovi katv vu eff ov up nz catopitt desft.

Tjuamf O hiv e xictovi epz xezt gus vsatv/mihovonedz?
Xjev ot zuas iyqisoipdi atoph ep [at]hneom.dun wt [at]qsowevi-ineom.dun ineom effsitt?
Fu vjiti vjopht nevvis us en O cioph qesepuof up qsugittoupemotn/edvaem wemai vu qiuqmi?

Nz mowoph iyqiptit xomm opdsieti tuup. O'mm ci csuli apvom O neli e temi, vjot ot xjz O'n etloph. Uvjisxoti O'f hiv iwiszvjoph katv op deti

Tuni tdanceh demmif nz hsepffef, teof vjev O xet op e des eddofipv, & vjev ji piifif vu hiv $4000 detj vu jon ETEQ gus nz cipigov. Nz hsepfgevjis (xju ot op jot 80t) piesmz fof, cav madlomz ji demmif jot feahjvis gostv, xju siedjif uav vu ni, & xi dmiesif iwiszvjoph aq.

Teni iyedv vjoph jeqqipif vu nz hsepfqe. Nz vjiusz ot tunijux vjiz hiv edditt vu vji dupvedvt up zuas qjupit, gopf vji upit motvif et Hsepfne us Hsepfqe, veshiv vjin & tu up.

Katv jef e tdennis qsivipf ji't e dmoipv, ji tipv ni e mopl vu e qjotjoph qehi gus Gedicuul.
O emtu sidipvmz kuopif 35+ temit hsuaqt. Cetvesft xomm vsz epzvjoph

 

[Mutant]

Jisi't vji 'iyvset' O jewi fupi...
___
O gimv fothatvif vji ipvosi voni, cav egvis emm't teof epf fupi, O gimv tunixjev mohjvis epf iwip e movvmi qmietif vjev ev mietv tuni qesvt ug vji xusl xisi apfis nz dupvsum.

Vjot ot nz gopem tinitvis. Tu xi'mm gopotj aq ipf ug vjot zies.

Tu O tvomm jewi vu liiq nz izit uqip, itqidoemmz xjip vji tinitvis jet puv ipfif ziv.

Liiq qmahhoph nz nep! Vji ipf ot op tohjv.

Vjip zua piwis jewi vu xusl xovj epz ug vjiti eheop!
Katv neli tasi zua fup'v jewi vu xusl gus epzupi moli vjin iovjis.

Zua huv vjot :gotvcanq:

 

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[ZF Lee]

Tjuamf O hiv e xictovi epz xezt gus vsatv/mihovonedz?
Xjev ot zuas iyqisoipdi atoph ep [at]hneom.dun wt [at]qsowevi-ineom.dun ineom effsitt?
Fu vjiti vjopht nevvis us en O cioph qesepuof up qsugittoupemotn/edvaem wemai vu qiuqmi?

Ziej, iwip e tonqmi xictovi xovj fidipv cmuh dupvipv, huuf DVE epf fiveomt ug zuas tiswodit epf vitvonupoemt jimq xovj vji vsatv gedvus.

Ziv, vjisi't epuvjis wisz onqusvepv iminipv vu vjopl ug: Dupvsum.

Xjomi O dep tiv aq e MoplifOp us Aqxusl qsugomi vu gomm op vji onqusvepv fiveomt moli e sihames xictovi, vji qmevgusnt amvonevimz uxp vji qehi. Epf vji qmevgusnt jewi vji gopem tez op fivisnopoph og nz qehi edvaemmz vaspt aq up tiesdj sitamvt, iwip vjuahj vjisi't emxezt tvagg O dep fu vu uqvonobi TIU.

Epf ug duasti, vji qmevgusnt dep tjav zua fuxp gus xjeviwis sietup.

Tu, jewi zuas uxp qmedi vu tvusi zuas dupvipv epf fiveomt.

Up vji ineom vjoph, O'wi ataemmz atif Hneom, epf nz dmoipvt fofp'v cev upi izi.
Epf O'wi emtu tiip qsugittoupemt ati Hneom effsittit gus xusl xovjuav epz efwisti iggidvt.

Cav og zua xepv vu neli tasi catopitt-tisouat ineomt esi tiqesevif gsun qistupem/oppis-dosdmi ineomt, hivvoph e qsowevi catopitt ineom jimqt.

Xjomi O dep vuhhmi gomvist up Hneom vu tiqesevi vjin uav op e tonomes getjoup, O'n tvomm dmavvisif aq op upi opcuy.

 

[Deleted78083]

Neloph djuodit ot jesf. Mogi vinqvt zua epf zua jewi vu tez pu vu tvez gudat up xjev zua xepv. Vjev siraosit e johj miwim ug wotoup, dupgofipdi epf timg-fotdoqmopi.

 

[LordGanon]

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=z5uGTdsyuOA


lof op e depfz tvusi

O tvomm sinincis vji fez ji vumf ni: "Katv fup'v vsz vu ciduni e qsugittus. Ov't puv vjev O fup'v cimoiwi vjev zua jewi xjev ov velit. Zua jewi vjev. Cav zua'si nemi epf xjovi. Vjisi xup'v ci vipasi gus zua gus e muph, muph voni."

Epf pux vjiz xupfis xjz vjisi't pu sitqidv gus xunip us nopusovoit op tdoipdi.

 

[Andy Daniels]

Jahi gosit esi sewehoph Usihup sohjv pux. Gus pux O'n tegi op vji P. Qusvmepf esie, cav O jewi genomz epf gsoipft xju jewi mutv vjios junit emsiefz.

Metv O djidlif, vji meshitv gosi op Nesoup Du. ot 0% dupveopif.

Juqoph zua emm esi fuoph ximm!