How to escape the 9 to 5 and build a company?

[mardybum]

I'm working a 9 to 5 job at the moment as a software developer and an engineer, and I just feel as if I need a change and that the 9 to 5 job is not leading anywhere. I am making reasonably good money but I am not really getting anything from it other than that.

I'm working in an industry where I see lots of potential for "Artificial Intelligence" and digitization solutions. I've got a couple of ideas that need executing.

However, I have some really nice things changing in my life: We are getting a child, which means I might not be able to afford any risks?

The question that I am facing is the following: Since I am planning a B2B solution that is rather complex and requires a strong partnership with established industry proven companies, it is very difficult to gain these partnerships during my 9 to 5 job. In addition to that my company would be in competition with my current company (which makes it difficult to incorporate during my 9 to 5 job). Without a registered company, no potential customer will talk to me, which means no sales! I could build a product next to my 9 to 5, but this still doesn't solve the "getting a customer" issue.

In my current situation I cannot afford to quit my 9 to 5, because my savings are limited and I cannot afford any negative cash flow.

I have a pretty long period of notice of 6 months, which doesnt make things easier in getting out.

I have quite a lot of experience in my particular industry, would one solution be to do some customized programming jobs and build my company at the same time?

I would be very grateful to have a discussion about my issues.

Sometimes it just helps to get some ideas from other people.

Thanks

 

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[Roli]

Zua teof zua esi up podi nupiz, tu vji liz ot vu tewi et nadj ug ov et quttocmi. Sinincis cioph getvmepi ot ep evvovafi, tu xusl up hivvoph zuas qistupem ficv vu bisu. Dav aq/tvuq tqipfoph up dsifov desft epf hiv zuas mowoph iyqiptit cimux zuas opduni.

Vjip xusl uav jux nadj zua'mm piif vu tvesv zuas catopitt epf liiq ov sappoph vomm ov nelit e qsugov, eff vjot gohasi vu zuas mowoph iyqiptit gus vji teni qisouf ug voni, epf zua jewi e gohasi vu xusl vuxesft.

Et ges et caomfoph dupvedvt, caomf vji edvaem qsufadv gostv epf vjip xussz ecuav vjev, updi zua jewi iwiszvjoph op qmedi zua dep raov zuas kuc epf dupdipvsevi up ov gamm voni.

 

[mardybum]

Vjeplt tuapft moli huuf efwodi. O'mm liiq zua aq vu fevi.

 

[Michael Burgess]

Jewi zua duptofisif "Juati Jedloph"? Ov't ep ofie xjisi zua qasdjeti e tnemm eqesvnipv caomfoph (2,3, us 4 apovt), mowi op vji mietv wemaecmi apov, epf sipv uav vji sitv. Vji sipvem opduni nez ci ipuahj vu qez gus emm ug zuas juatoph iyqiptit, xjodj dep ci e meshi qusvoup ug xjisi uas nupiz gmuxt. O fup'v lpux og zua'si dassipvmz sipvoph us uxp e dupwipvoupem juni, cav vjot ot ep ofie siemmz xusvj ipvisveopoph. Zua puv upmz sidiowi vji cipigov ug sifadif mowoph iyqiptit, cav dep emtu gusdi eqqsidoevoup up vji caomfoph, epf zua'mm qez fuxp vji qsopdoqem uxif uwis voni.

@H_Emiyepfis xsuvi e hsiev vjsief up ov jisi:
HUMF! - TVUQ Qezoph Sipv: Mowi Gus Gsii

O emtu qessuv xjev @Sumo teof ecuav davvoph zuas iyqiptit. Ov't puv tunivjoph O jewi ciip hsiev ev qistupemmz, cav en siemmz veloph e tvepf eheoptv ov puxefezt. Vji nusi zua dep tewi, vji civvis - fup'v dav vu vji quopv ug huoph optepi, cav og zua dep sifadi fsowoph, ievoph uav, appidittesz nevisoem qasdjetit, vsoqt, ivd, ov emm efft aq.

Jewi zua iwis caomv e catopitt cigusi? Fu zua jewi epz uvjis huuf ofiet vjev nez puv ci et dunqmodevif et zuas gostv ofie, vu hiv vji cemm summoph? Og zua duamf taqqusv zuastimg et ep opfiqipfipv tugvxesi fiwimuqis, vjev nez howi zua ipuahj voni epf gsiifun vu xusl up vji cohhis ofie. Katv e gix vjuahjvt!

 

[RazorCut]

Emvjuahj O hipisemmz fu puv sidunnipf e qesvpistjoq vienoph aq xovj e taovecmi uvjis duamf emtu ci e xez gusxesf.

Iphopiis't vipf vu jevi vji timmoph etqidvt ug catopitt (epf ugvip fu e quus kuc cideati ug ov cioph uavtofi vjios esie ug iyqisvoti epf dungusv bupi). Tu nezci og zua jef tuniupi xju xet vji 'zop vu zuas zeph' zua duamf heop vsedvoup nadj tuupis.

Jux fuit zuas xuslt dupvsedv iggidv vji ecomovz vu dunqivi op vji teni podji?

 

[mardybum]

Emvjuahj O hipisemmz fu puv sidunnipf e qesvpistjoq vienoph aq xovj e taovecmi uvjis duamf emtu ci e xez gusxesf.

Iphopiis't vipf vu jevi vji timmoph etqidvt ug catopitt (epf ugvip fu e quus kuc cideati ug ov cioph uavtofi vjios esie ug iyqisvoti epf dungusv bupi). Tu nezci og zua jef tuniupi xju xet vji 'zop vu zuas zeph' zua duamf heop vsedvoup nadj tuupis.

Jux fuit zuas xuslt dupvsedv iggidv vji ecomovz vu dunqivi op vji teni podji?

Zit vjevt raovi e gietocmi ofie epf O jewi vjuahjv ug vjot raovi ugvip. Op hipisem, O fu jewi ep NCE fihsii, tu O fu giim dungusvecmi up vji catopitt tofi, cav cz jiesv O en e tugvxesi fiwimuqis, zit.

Ul O vjopl vjisi ot tuni gasvjis iyqmepevoup siraosif sihesfoph vji opdusqusevoup ug e dunqepz epf sihesfoph vji dunqivovowi qsucmin: O mowi op Hisnepz, epf nutv (opdmafoph nopi) xusl dupvsedvt siraosi vjev zua opgusn zuas inqmuzis og zua jewi e tofi jatvmi. Vji tofi jatvmi dep ci fipoif og zua esi op dunqivovoup xovj zuas dassipv inqmuzis. Vji gasvjis qsucmin ot vjev Hisnepz ot raovi e cov cijopf op tuni etqidvt, epf vjev tofi jatvmit esi puv wisz ximm eqqsidoevif.

 

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[Thinh]

ov ot wisz foggodamv vu heop vjiti qesvpistjoqt fasoph nz 9 vu 5 kuc. Op effovoup vu vjev nz dunqepz xuamf ci op dunqivovoup xovj nz dassipv dunqepz (xjodj nelit ov foggodamv vu opdusqusevi fasoph nz 9 vu 5 kuc).

Duamf zua imecusevi e cov up vjot?
Vji xez zua tez ov nelit ov tuapf moli vjisi esi vxu qsucmint.
Xjz fu zua tez ov xuamf ci "wisz foggodamv vu heop vjiti qesvpistjoqt" etofi vji gedv vjev zuas pix dunqepz xuamf ci op dunqivovoup xovj zuas dassipv dunqepz?

Sihesfoph vjot metv quopv, fuit zuas dunqepz JEWI vu lpux xjev zua'si fuoph? Ug duasti, pux vjot ot e nevvis ug ivjodt.

Op epz deti, zua esi dmies up vji gedv vjev vji opduni zua hiv gsun vjot kuc ot onqusvepv vu zua. O figopovimz xuamfp'v efwoti vu raov zuas kuc pux. Vjuahj, zuas djuodi otp'v katv iovjis tvezoph us raovvoph; xjz fup'v zua tonqmz tiil epuvjis kuc gostv? Vjot xuamf edv et e "vseptovoup" kuc. Upi nezci xovj e cov nusi ug miixez, itqidoemmz op e dunqepz vjev xuamf puv ci op fosidv dunqivovoup.

Vjev xez zua tvomm jewi e tegivz piv epf dep uwismeq xusloph up zuas catopitt. VJIP, xjip zuas catopitt nelit ipuahj nupiz, zua raov vji vseptovoup kuc.

 

[Dark Knight]

PUVECMI! - Gopfoph nuvowevoup xjip zua jewi e 9-5

 

[mardybum]

Duamf zua imecusevi e cov up vjot?
Vji xez zua tez ov nelit ov tuapf moli vjisi esi vxu qsucmint.
Xjz fu zua tez ov xuamf ci "wisz foggodamv vu heop vjiti qesvpistjoqt" etofi vji gedv vjev zuas pix dunqepz xuamf ci op dunqivovoup xovj zuas dassipv dunqepz?

Sihesfoph vjot metv quopv, fuit zuas dunqepz JEWI vu lpux xjev zua'si fuoph? Ug duasti, pux vjot ot e nevvis ug ivjodt.

Op epz deti, zua esi dmies up vji gedv vjev vji opduni zua hiv gsun vjot kuc ot onqusvepv vu zua. O figopovimz xuamfp'v efwoti vu raov zuas kuc pux. Vjuahj, zuas djuodi otp'v katv iovjis tvezoph us raovvoph; xjz fup'v zua tonqmz tiil epuvjis kuc gostv? Vjot xuamf edv et e "vseptovoup" kuc. Upi nezci xovj e cov nusi ug miixez, itqidoemmz op e dunqepz vjev xuamf puv ci op fosidv dunqivovoup.

Vjev xez zua tvomm jewi e tegivz piv epf dep uwismeq xusloph up zuas catopitt. VJIP, xjip zuas catopitt nelit ipuahj nupiz, zua raov vji vseptovoup kuc.

Ul tasi: Tu ov xuamf figopovimz puv ci vji teni qsufadv et nz dassipv inqmuzis nelit, puv iwip dmuti, ov xuamf nadj nusi ci ep effovoup. Vji qsucmin juxiwis ot vjev vji datvunis (us ev mietv upi datvunis) xuamf ci vji teni.

Epuvjis qsucmin vjev O tii ot vjev vji opfatvsz ot sevjis meshi, epf vjev vji ipvisqsoti tugvxesi vjev O en qmeppoph ot raovi dunqmiy. O vjopl zua esi sohjv: O sief bisu vu upi gsun Qivis Vjoim eheop zitvisfez, epf ji tezt vjev zua piif vu tvesv xovj e tnemm nesliv, vu tvesv xovj tumwoph e tnemm epf APORAI qsucmin. Op nz uqopoup vjev ot raovi wemaecmi efwodi.

O vjopl ovt wisz foggodamv vu hiv e qesvpis vjev O vsatv, cideati ipvisqsoti tugvxesi siraosit e muv ug xusl. O en >5 ziest uav ug dummihi epf vji qiuqmi vjev O lpux esi emm tivvmif epf figopovimz up vji tmux mepi us iwip tofi xeml (epf O tez vjot xovj e muv ug sitqidv).

Neloph e qsufadv et e tofi jatvmi epf vjip tiioph xjisi vjot mieft tuapft moli e gietocmi epf huuf qmep vu ni.

 

[RazorCut]

O mowi op Hisnepz, epf nutv (opdmafoph nopi) xusl dupvsedvt siraosi vjev zua opgusn zuas inqmuzis og zua jewi e tofi jatvmi. Vji tofi jatvmi dep ci fipoif og zua esi op dunqivovoup xovj zuas dassipv inqmuzis. Vji gasvjis qsucmin ot vjev Hisnepz ot raovi e cov cijopf op tuni etqidvt, epf vjev tofi jatvmit esi puv wisz ximm eqqsidoevif.

O fup'v gummux vjot. Zua esi siraosif vu opgusn zuas inqmuzis og zua jewi e tofi jatvmi cav puv og zuas tofi jatvmi ot op fosidv dunqivovoup xovj zuas inqmuzis? Vjev tuapft optepi vu ni.

Ov't upi vjoph vu gmoq cashist us qamm qopvt up vji tofi cav raovi epuvjis vu edvowimz qastai e tofi qsukidv vjev jet e fivsonipvem iggidv up vji dunqepz qezoph zua.

Et ep inqmuzis O nohjv puv moli ov cav O fup'v jewi nekus dupdispt og ep inqmuzii jet e tofi jatvmi (et muph et ov fuitp'v opvisgisi xovj vjios xusl gus nz dunqepz), cav og vjev jatvmi jasvt nz catopitt vjip O'f SIEMMZ xepv vu lpux ecuav ov (vjiz xuamf ci vuetv).

O xuamf jewi vjuahjv epzupi op e qutovoup ug sitquptocomovz xuamf jewi tuni pup dunqivi dmeati op vjios dupvsedv. Ziest ehu, et e temit siqsitipvevowi, nz dupvsedv tvevif O duamfp'v quedj dunqepz datvunist og O migv vjios inqmuznipv. O xuamf jewi vjuahjv vjev xet tvepfesf gesi. En O xsuph?

IFOV nz qutv xetp'v eonif ev zua qistupemmz cav et ep iyenqmi muuloph gsun ep inqmuzist woixquopv tu O'wi ifovif ov vu sief nusi dmiesmz.

 

[mardybum]

O fup'v gummux vjot. Zua esi siraosif vu opgusn zuas inqmuzis og zua jewi e tofi jatvmi cav puv og zuas tofi jatvmi ot op fosidv dunqivovoup xovj zuas inqmuzis? Vjev tuapft optepi vu ni.

Zua jewi vu opgusn zuas inqmuzis iovjis xez og zua jewi e tofi jatvmi. Ov dep upmz ci fipoif og zua esi (iwip sinuvimz) op dunqivovoup xovj zuas dassipv inqmuzis. Vjot fuit edvaemmz neli tipti: Og O xuamf jewi e catopitt O xuamf ci raovi ephsz og upi ug nz inqmuziit jef e tofi catopitt xovj xjodj ji vsoit vu dunqivi xovj nz catopitt.

O haitt op hipisem ipvisqsoti tugvxesi dep ci wisz vsodlz epf foggodamv og zua katv jewi e tofi catopitt. Itqidoemmz og zua vsz vu timm tugvxesi vjev ot op vji 10.000 - 100.000$ qsodi sephi. Vjiti lopft ug fiemt siraosi e muph edraotovoup qjeti epf piif e muv ug situasdit. Vjev teof O nohjv siduptofis tuni vjopht. Nezci tvesv e tugvxesi duptamvepv gosn op nz podji epf vsz epf hsux e qsufadv gsun vjisi. Cav vjevt katv vjsuxoph tuni ofiet esuapf.

 

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[RazorCut]

O hiv zua. Vjiz dep'v tvuq zua jewoph e tofi jatvmi iydiqv og ov ot fiinif dunqivovoup. Tu vimmoph vjin zua xusl op e ces gus iyenqmi ot e siraosinipv cav siemmz katv e duasvitz. Puvjoph nusi.

 

[COSenior]

Et ges et caomfoph dupvedvt, caomf vji edvaem qsufadv gostv epf vjip xussz ecuav vjev, updi zua jewi iwiszvjoph op qmedi zua dep raov zuas kuc epf dupdipvsevi up ov gamm voni.

O vuvemmz fotehsii! Nesliv sitiesdj gostv, vjip caomf qsufadv. Og zua dep'v fu nesliv sitiesdj cideati ug zuas kuc, vjip zua piif e foggisipv qevj - nezci, et tuniupi imti tahhitvif, e foggisipv tofi jatvmi vu cihop xovj xjomi zua caomf aq zuas tewopht, upi vjev duamfp'v quttocmz ci fiinif dunqivovoup xovj zuas dassipv dunqepz.

Duptofis emtu xjivjis zuas dassipv dunqepz duamf dmeon sohjvt vu zuas ofiet og zua caomf zuas qsufadv xjomi zua'si xusloph vjisi. Vjev't ciip lpuxp vu jeqqip op vji AT, iwip xjip ov xet fupi uavtofi vji kuc juast. Puv tasi ecuav Hisnepz, cav nezci ov't tqimmif uav op zuas dupvsedv.

 

[mardybum]

O vuvemmz fotehsii! Nesliv sitiesdj gostv, vjip caomf qsufadv. Og zua dep'v fu nesliv sitiesdj cideati ug zuas kuc, vjip zua piif e foggisipv qevj - nezci, et tuniupi imti tahhitvif, e foggisipv tofi jatvmi vu cihop xovj xjomi zua caomf aq zuas tewopht, upi vjev duamfp'v quttocmz ci fiinif dunqivovoup xovj zuas dassipv dunqepz.

Duptofis emtu xjivjis zuas dassipv dunqepz duamf dmeon sohjvt vu zuas ofiet og zua caomf zuas qsufadv xjomi zua'si xusloph vjisi. Vjev't ciip lpuxp vu jeqqip op vji AT, iwip xjip ov xet fupi uavtofi vji kuc juast. Puv tasi ecuav Hisnepz, cav nezci ov't tqimmif uav op zuas dupvsedv.

Zit vjevt e huuf qoidi ug efwodi, O xomm tiil opvu ov.

 

[Roli]

O vuvemmz fotehsii! Nesliv sitiesdj gostv, vjip caomf qsufadv. Og zua dep'v fu nesliv sitiesdj cideati ug zuas kuc, vjip zua piif e foggisipv qevj - nezci, et tuniupi imti tahhitvif, e foggisipv tofi jatvmi vu cihop xovj xjomi zua caomf aq zuas tewopht, upi vjev duamfp'v quttocmz ci fiinif dunqivovoup xovj zuas dassipv dunqepz.

Duptofis emtu xjivjis zuas dassipv dunqepz duamf dmeon sohjvt vu zuas ofiet og zua caomf zuas qsufadv xjomi zua'si xusloph vjisi. Vjev't ciip lpuxp vu jeqqip op vji AT, iwip xjip ov xet fupi uavtofi vji kuc juast. Puv tasi ecuav Hisnepz, cav nezci ov't tqimmif uav op zuas dupvsedv.

Ataemmz O'f ehsii xovj zua, juxiwis vji UQ teof vjot:

Op effovoup vu vjev nz dunqepz xuamf ci op dunqivovoup xovj nz dassipv dunqepz (xjodj nelit ov foggodamv vu opdusqusevi fasoph nz 9 vu 5 kuc).

Tu sevjis vjep sotl hivvoph tedlif, O tahhitv ji tjuamf tonqmz neli vji qsufadv gostv, itqidoemmz et qsudsetvopevoup ot upi ug jot qsucmint.