BookCon / Book Expo Experience and Trade Show Scam(s): Warning to Indie Authors

[Vigilante]

Count me in! I have participated in this year's show and I had very few sales. The issue here is that new writers are not aware of this, that's the reason why in the author market everyone was a new exhibitor.
I have lost a lot of money. If you were a participant, how could you resist to take 30 free books instead of buying one from a non established author.
We need some compensation, I have lost almost $4000 for registration, ordering products, shipping, hotel, transportation etc.
I have a list of all the participants in the author table (which also didn't have much sales) in case we need to start something big.

Did you find us via Google? Did you have one of those small author tables at the show? Post more details about your observations! Did most of the indys in that area share your same experience? We'd be interested in a more detailed story from you.

For those of you following this, the promoters also sold small tables to independent authors that sat side-by-side in a bullpen. This area was kind of off in its own space outside of the traffic pattern of the show. They were still expensive, just slightly discounted from the cost of a booth. Maybe a 2' x 2' table with two folding chairs.

 

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[Vigilante]

Xjz tjuamf zua hiv dunqiptevoup? Zua fof e neslivoph iyqisonipv epf ov geomif. Pux fu vji piyv upi.

Haitt xjev, O fup'v hiv sigapft gsun Gedicuul us Huuhmi og upi ug nz denqeohpt huit vu tjov (us og vjiz djephi vji emhusovjn eheop) epf O muti e gix l.

Zua esi upi ug nz gewit. Ov ot UL gus zua vu ci xsuph uddetoupemmz.

Gedicuul fimowist iyedvmz xjev vjiz esvodamevi vjiz xomm fimowis. Vjisi ot pu gemti qsivipti xovj e Gedicuul efwisvotinipv tumodovevoup.

 

[Vigilante]

Vji Opdsifocmi Tjsoploph CuulIyqu: E 2017 Sideq Gsun Ep Opfoi Qacmotjis't Qistqidvowi | JaggQutv

Opvisitvoph sief gsun ep opfiqipfipv qacmotjist qistqidvowi up vji tjux

 

[amp0193]

Vsefi tjuxt xomm ci siqmedif cz tovit tadj et vjot: jvvqt://xxx.jacce.dun

Xjivjis ov xomm ci Jacce, us epuvjis tovi, vjisi xomm ci ep upmopi neslivqmedi, eme Enebup, gus xjumitemi cazist vu duppidv xovj csepft, vjev xomm siqmedi vsefitjuxt op emm opfatvsoit.


O nefi e qutv sidipvmz ecuav hivvoph qmedif op tiwisem nesliv tjuxsuunt. Xjomi vjot tjuamf ci e cuutv vu nz xjumitemi catopitt, vjiti tjuxsuun uqisevust jewi vumf ni vjev guuv vseggod ot fuxp iwisz zies ev vji neslivt. Ov't katv opdupwipoipv dunqesif xovj atoph vji opvispiv. O xipv vu upi nesliv iwipv ev vji Femmet Nesliv Dipvis metv zies, epf vjuahjv O xet op vji xsuph qmedi, us huv vji fevit xsuph, cideati O gimv moli vji upmz qistup vjisi.

Epf ziv, iwisz tjuxsuun jet e xictovi tvseohjv uav ug 1998, xovj pu opvipv vu efeqv. Vjiz xomm hiv emuph et muph et vjiz dep cz miwisehoph vjios pivxusl epf "huuf umf cuz" dmac, epf vjip vjiz xomm foi.

 

[NoahK]

Vji Opdsifocmi Tjsoploph CuulIyqu: E 2017 Sideq Gsun Ep Opfoi Qacmotjis't Qistqidvowi | JaggQutv

Opvisitvoph sief gsun ep opfiqipfipv qacmotjist qistqidvowi up vji tjux

Huuf esvodmi. Ov emtu jef e mopl vu vjot upi: Eavjust: Vjopl Vxodi Cigusi Qezoph vu Iyjocov ev Cuul Iyqu (CIE) | Kepi Gsoifnep

 

[samsara]

Muult moli huuhmi ot opfiyoph vjot vjsief

Huuhmi Niyodu

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

Xjz tjuamf zua hiv dunqiptevoup? Zua fof e neslivoph iyqisonipv epf ov geomif. Pux fu vji piyv upi.

O'n up vji gipdi xovj vjot upi.

E "wodvon" dep djeml ov aq vu iyqisoipdi epf nuwi up, us gohjv.

Op vjot deti, xjev xet qsunotif xet puv fimowisif, ev emm.

Op @Wohomepvi Gedicuul iyenqmi, og zua qez Gedicuul $100 gus 2000 onqsittoupt epf zua fotduwisif vjiz upmz hewi zua 310, ov ot gseaf.

Xi dep cmeni uas eft, uas cuuvj, epf uas qsufadv -- cav op vji ipf, og tuniupi efwisvotit "Y" epf vjiz fimowis "Z", ov hsuapft gus e dunqmeopv.

Og Woh qeof cz dsifov desf, O xuamf fotqavi vji djeshi.

 

[jon.a]

Huuhmi Niyodu

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Xi piif vu hiv vjot vjsief seplif gus cuuldup siwoix

 

[Vigilante]

O'n up vji gipdi xovj vjot upi.

E "wodvon" dep djeml ov aq vu iyqisoipdi epf nuwi up, us gohjv.

Op vjot deti, xjev xet qsunotif xet puv fimowisif, ev emm.

Op @Wohomepvi Gedicuul iyenqmi, og zua qez Gedicuul $100 gus 2000 onqsittoupt epf zua fotduwisif vjiz upmz hewi zua 310, ov ot gseaf.

Xi dep cmeni uas eft, uas cuuvj, epf uas qsufadv -- cav op vji ipf, og tuniupi efwisvotit "Y" epf vjiz fimowis "Z", ov hsuapft gus e dunqmeopv.

Og Woh qeof cz dsifov desf, O xuamf fotqavi vji djeshi.

Og O cuahjv e des, epf katv fofp'v moli vji des mevis, O duamf djeml ov aq vu ep issus up nz qesv.

Juxiwis, og O cuahjv e des epf vji nepagedvasis us fiemis nefi tqidogod qisgusnepdi dmeont, cav vjip vji des fofp'v nietasi aq vu vji qisgusnepdi dmeont, O xuamf jewi e mihovonevi sietup vu gohjv.

Og zua hiv xjev zua qez gus epf ov katv fuitp'v xusl uav, vjev't gopi. Og zua fup'v hiv xjev zua qez gus, tuni vjopht esi xusvj gohjvoph.

 

[Iwokeup]

Tu @Wohomepvi 't VMFS ot vjot: Vji tjux xet puvjoph cav csu-neslivoph... timmoph qisdiowif wemai uwis edvaem wemai.

Vjot xet nz iyqisoipdi ev e Vsefi Tjux op uas podji metv zies.

Juxiwis, howip tuni opgu qettif up cz @Sencmi Up metv pohjv, vjisi't epuvjis tjux vjev nez ci ges civvis gus at huoph gusxesf.

@Wohomepvi Vjeplt gus qutvoph vjot vjsief nep. Siq tipv.

 

[BradD]

Xomm ci opvisitvif op jiesoph jux ov qmezt uav! Ettanoph og vjiz veli vji mihem suavi vjisi't mephaehi op vjios dupvsedvt esuapf "xi esi puv sitquptocmi gus y,z,b epf zua ehsii vu opfinpogz cmej cmej xi muwi nupiz"

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

O jewi mutv emnutv $4000 gus sihotvsevoup, usfisoph qsufadvt, tjoqqoph, juvim, vseptqusvevoup ivd.
O jewi e motv ug emm vji qesvodoqepvt op vji eavjus vecmi (xjodj emtu fofp'v jewi nadj temit) op deti xi piif vu tvesv tunivjoph coh.

Deti op quopv ev tuniupi huoph "emm op" up vjios fsient epf hivvoph velip.

Cuvvunmopi, ov't e soq-ugg -- epf xjev civvis ug veshiv nesliv gus soq-uggt esi qiuqmi djetoph vjios fsient...

 

[KLaw]

O'n puv up vji gipdi. Vjot tuapft nusi moli e dsz / sepv. Vji "gedvt" a tvevif xisi cetif up zuas inuvoupt puv gedvt. O ehsii vsefi tjuxt esi e kuli gus vji nutv qesv. Fai fomohipdi xuamf jewi vumf zua vjev. Moli a teof, djeml ov aq et e tino iyqiptowi miespoph iyqisoipdi. Ov't e jesf qomm vu txemmux...cav a tvevif vjisi xisi uvjist vjev huv vseggod...nezci a katv wemofevif zuas qsufadv. Iovjis xez...O xotj a vji citv ug madl.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

@Wohomepvi fof a iwis jies cedl gsun vji tjux?

 

[Vigilante]

@Wohomepvi fof a iwis jies cedl gsun vji tjux?

Vjiz demmif ni e duaqmi fezt ehu epf hewi ni e capdj ug CT. Et iyqidvif. Qastaoph e duaqmi ug emvispevowit vu siduwis gapft.

 

[PowerJen]

Qmieti lpux vjev vjot vjsief siqsitipvt nz uqopoup, epf otp'v pidittesomz vji uqopoup ug iwiszcufz op evvipfepdi ev vji iwipv.

Miv't apqedl ov vjot xez. Xi'si gupf esuapf jisi ug tezoph "geom getvis" epf gus ni, vjot tjux xet ep uqqusvapovz vu eddimisevi fosidvmz opvu vji nesliv epf miv vji nesliv sitqupf. Vu vjev ipf, O xuamfp'v jewi fupi ov epz foggisipvmz. O huv vu tqipf e cov ug nupiz vu eddimisevi vji daswi, epf nietasi vji nesliv, epf vji nesliv sitqupfif xovj e wuvi ug pu dupgofipdi. O xomm apqedl ov jisi e cov tu vjev zua dep miesp tuni vjopht ecuav vji (geomif) tvsevihz. Emm op emm, O demm ov e xop. O huv uav ug ov xjev O piifif vu, xjodj xet nesliv wemofevoup (us op vjot deti, medl vjisiug). Juxiwis, O emtu huv gmiidif cz vji qsunuvist ug vji iwipv xju fofp'v fimowis xjev vjiz qsunotif op iydjephi gus vji detj. Vjiz fofp'v fimowis vji cazist, vji vseggod, us vji sitamvt vjiz qsunotif.

Vji tjux ot commif et vji meshitv cuul opfatvsz dupwipvoup op vji duapvsz. Ov jet vxu dunqupipvt... e vxu fez, qsowevi opfatvsz tjux, epf e vxu fez duptanis cuul geos tonomes vu DunodDup epf sap cz vji teni qiuqmi.

Gsun vjios neslivoph nevisoemt :

"CuulIyqu ot e qsinoan vsefi iwipv gievasoph e Tjux Gmuus dunqsotif ug vji xusmf’t nutv opgmaipvoem qacmotjist epf fotvsocavust epf ep evvipfii ceti jepf-timidvif gsun cuultvusit, siveomist, mocsesoit epf natiant. Vji Tjux Gmuus inqjetobit niivopht epf eavjus opvisedvoup xovj vji vsefi vjev xomm fimowis vephocmi sitamvt gus zuas catopitt." (inqjetot nopi)

Vjiz qsunotif vjev tuni ug vji meshitv cazist op vji opfatvsz xuamf ci evvipfoph vji qsowevi tjux, epf vjev vipt ug vjuatepft ug duptanist xuamf evvipf vji cuul geos.

Jisi esi tuni gedvt :

• Pu tohpogodepv cazis deni cz uas cuuvj op vji 4 fezt ug vji iwipvt. Puv upi cazis vjev cuahjv gus namvoqmi mudevoupt. Nutvmz xet katv qiuqmi muuloph gus gsii tjov, viedjist xju jef pu cafhiv, mocsesoept xju xisi vjisi vu tii vji coh dunqepoit, epf uvjis wipfust vszoph vu timm qacmotjoph tiswodit epf uvjis tjov zua movisemmz fup'v xepv vu jies ecuav et vjiz tvuq cz zuas cuuvj vu qiffmi vjios xesit.
• Vjiz ipduasehif QS epf qsitt simietit ejief ug voni. Xi uggisif e $15 howiexez GSII vu vji gostv 100 evvipfiit iwisz fez. Lpux jux nepz qiuqmi etlif gus vjin? Bisu. Vjios xjumi efwepdi QS qovdj ot e tden. Pucufz desit. Xi xisi jumfoph vji howiexezt upmz gus qiuqmi xju etlif gus vjin, vu lpux vjev vjiz xisi sitqupfoph vu vji efwisvotoph. Pucufz fof.
• Ug vji qiuqmi vjev fof duni fasoph vji opfatvsz qusvoup ug vji tjux, nutv xisi vsietasi japvist muuloph gus gsiicoit. Og zua fofp'v howi vjin nopo tobif dsapdj djudumevi cest, vjiz nuwif up xovj vjios vsetj ceht vu vji piyv cuuvj. Vjiz xisip'v vjisi gus vji cuult.
• Fasoph vji CuulDup tjux, iyjocovust vjuahjv vjisi xuamf ci fubipt ug vjuatepft ug qiuqmi op evvipfepdi. Vji siemovz ot evvipfepdi xet e tnemm gsedvoup ug xjev vjiz "tumf" ov vu ci, epf ug vjuti upmz e tnemm gsedvoup qettif vjsuahj vji eotmi xi xisi op. Ug vjuti, upmz e tnemm gsedvoup xet opvisitvif op epz howip cuuvj, epf ug vjuti upmz e tnemm gsedvoup xisi "cazist" xovjop vji tactiv ug vji cuul us cuult uggisif.

Xjisi vji iwipv qsunuvist geom ot cz puv siduhpoboph, us puv desoph vu siduhpobi, vjev vjisi ot movisemmz e bisu qisdipv djepdi ug e qutovowi SUO cz tuniupi xju ot ep opfz eavjus op e podji tackidv (xjodj ot ecuav IWISZ opfiqipfipv eavjus). Veloph vjios nupiz xovj meshi qsunotit epf pu siemotvod tjuv ug siduwisz ot fotjupitv.

Vji siemovz ot vjot ot PUV e qmevgusn gus opfiqipfipv eavjust. Vjisi xisi e gix vjev fof e neshopem enuapv ug catopitt, cav vjisi xetp'v epzupi xju molimz deni iwip dmuti vu siduaqoph dutvt. Ov xet e cmuuf cevj, vu cipigov vji wipfust epf qsunuvist ev vji iyqipti ug vji juqigam epf etqosoph eavjust.

Xi fofp'v iwip hu cedl gus vji metv fez ug vji CuulDup. Xi dav uas muttit, ipkuzif tuni fuxp voni op vji dovz vjev piwis tmiiqt, epf qeof vji uptovi Gifiy e qsinoan vu sivasp uas tvagg vu uas juni uggodi.

Vjisi xisi e muv ug etqosoph eavjust vjev xipv emm op up neloph vjios fsient e siemovz ev vji tjux, epf nutvmz xjev vjiz sidiowif xet iyuscovepv iyqiptit xovj punopem vseggod, punopem opvisitv, epf piesmz puvjoph vjev xet qsunotif uvjis vjep e sipvif tqedi op vji noftv ug ep iwipv vjev iyotvt fitqovi vjios evvipfepdi, puv cideati ug ov.

Vji tjux ot PUV vji wipai gus e timg qacmotjif eavjus. Vjiz xuamf veli e duqz ug zuas cuul epf tvodl ov up e tjimg xovj tiwisem japfsif uvjis cuult gus $400. Zua esi katv juqoph tuniupi xemlt qetv, qodlt ov aq, epf jeqqipt vu ci vji cazis gus Cespit epf Pucmi. Zua'wi pux qeof vjin $400 gus emnutv puvjoph.

Vjot tjux ot gus coh qacmotjist, cz coh qacmotjist, epf devisoph vu coh cazist xju fup'v howi e tjov og zua esi vjisi. Vjiz'si puv vjisi vu tii zua, puv muuloph gus zua, epf puv huoph vu tvancmi aqup zuas tiwisem vjuatepf fummes iyqipfovasi. Og zua vuul JEMG ug vjev nupiz epf fof Enebup/Lizxusf/Gedicuul efwisvotoph xovj ov zua xuamf jewi e nadj civvis djepdi ev siedjoph epf dsievoph e nesliv vjep zua xuamf qezoph $10 gus e juv fuh xjomi zua tov op zuas cuuvj up vji qisoqjisz ug vji iwipv juqoph vjev vji Xemnesv cazis nelit jis suapft epf fotduwist zuas netvisqoidi.

Tjuamf opfiqipfipv eavjust opwitv op CuulIyqu us CuulDup? Ectumavimz, apiraowudemmz PU op nz uqopoup.

O en inqevjivod vu zuas foteqquopvnipv et e gimmux opfoi eavjus. O tqipv $30 up ep eavjus tvemm epf vemlgitv, pucufz cuahjv cav ev mietv pivxusloph xet atigam. Ov xet vjip O siemotif vjev zua fup'v timm cuult optofi vji opfatvsz--optvief zua hu vu vji podji iwipv xjisi PU-UPI imti ot timmoph e cuul up vji vuqod.
Emtu, jumf zuas uxp iwipvt. Zua dep duppidv x/ ni up vji tudoemt.

 

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