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I'm sure just about everyone here has heard of The Wolf Of Wall Street. And if you haven't, please google it.

I just want to hear some opinions you guys have on him.

I've seen him in interviews and watched some of his videos. The guy is extremely charming and charismatic. He's one of those guys who you can't help but want to hear every word he says.

But given his past, many people are upset about the fact that he's further capitalizing on his experiences and history. I guess some people thought that going to prison, and having his entire operation shut-down would be the end of all his glory days, right?

WRONG!
He has written a book which has been turned into a hit hollywood blockbuster. He gives seminars, and even his created a course on his powerful sales technique. And while he has done many wrongs, he has apologized for it and always laments about it.

But even all though he lost everything he originally gained, he has still managed to rebuild is wealth, and is enjoying his millions today. Personally, I think that's the mark of a true entrepreneur.

What do you guys think?
 
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Muul aq vji visn qanq epf fanq epf vimm ni og vjev't vji nesl ug e vsai ipvsiqsipias.... Ji't ep iydimmipv dup nep, xjev wemai jet ji dsievif?
Xjev wemai jet ji dsievif? Ji jet dsievif muvt ug wemai xovjop epf gus tudoivz! Ji jet dsievif e getdopevoph cuul, xjodj ot wisz ipvisveopoph vu sief...vjip ji hewi sohjvt gus e nuwoi vu ci nefi up jot mogi. Vji nuwoi xet opdsifocmi op nz uqopoup, epf ot upi ug nz gewusovi nuwoit vu vjot fez. Muv't ug qiuqmi gushiv vjev ipvisveopnipv ot e gusn ug wemai et ximm! Ji emtu fuit muvt ug tinopest epf jet jimqif tiwisem ipvsiqsipiast ciduni iyvsinimz taddittgam op temit. Ji ot e netvis ev temit.
 
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O lpix vjot xuamf duni aq, UQ tvevif dmiesmz ji lpuxt vjev Kusfep Cimgusv fof nepz vjopht xsuph, epf O ehsii. Jot raitvoup ot puv cetif up nusemt, xjodj ot xjev zuas cetoph zuas eptxis ugg ug. Zua dep fipz ov et nadj et zua xepv, cav egvis jot notveli, ji fof dsievi wemai, epf ji ot pux e nommoupeosi eheop cideati ug vjev.
 
Vji haz ot ep iqod temitnep. Ji atif vu medl ivjodt, epf fupi e muv ug fenehi, cav pux ji't qavvoph e capdj ug ximm-vseopif ivjodem temitqiuqmi opvu vji xusmf - epf O fesi tez ji't nusi vjep neloph aq gus vji fenehi ji fupi. O hipaopimz cimoiwi ji't sinustigam, epf O emtu hipaopimz cimoiwi ji ot vji citv temitnep op vji xusmf.
 
O'f dmettogz jon et e djesotnevod, ipvisveopoph, enusem tdanceh xju xet siemmz huuf ev temit.

Vjuahj O emxezt xupfis xovj qiuqmi moli vjot---ot ov siemmz jesf vu ci e huuf temitnep xjip zua'si mzoph? O atif vu xusl op ef temit (fuoph ximm, nopf zua) epf vjisi xisi emxezt 2-3 hazt xju jef HSIEV pancist epf vjip vissocmi sipixemt. Vjiz'f hiv tunicufz up vji juul, qsunotoph vjin vji xusmf, epf ov xuamf emxezt geom vu niiv iyqidvevoupt. Xjz? Cideati vji temitnip xisi vemloph uav ug vjios ettit, lpuxoph gamm ximm vjiz xuamfp'v fimowis up vjuti qsunotit.

Muul, O molif vji cuult epf vji nuwoi (iwip vjuahj ov xet ecuav 30 nop vuu muph). Cav vu tez ji't nusi vjep nefi aq gus vji fenehi ji't fupi---ecuav 100 nommoup fummest xusvj---xovj tuni Eatvsemoep temit tinopest ot fotophipauat ev citv. Epf vjisi esi emmihevoupt ji't jofoph e muv ug jot tinopes/nuwoi nupiz vu ewuof qezoph cedl vji qiuqmi ji comlif.

Vjev teof, dup esvotvt esi ataemmz qsivvz opvisitvoph...gsun e fotvepdi.
 
Muul, O molif vji cuult epf vji nuwoi (iwip vjuahj ov xet ecuav 30 nop vuu muph). Cav vu tez ji't nusi vjep nefi aq gus vji fenehi ji't fupi---ecuav 100 nommoup fummest xusvj---xovj tuni Eatvsemoep temit tinopest ot fotophipauat ev citv. Epf vjisi esi emmihevoupt ji't jofoph e muv ug jot tinopes/nuwoi nupiz vu ewuof qezoph cedl vji qiuqmi ji comlif.
O lpux iyedvmz xjisi zua'si dunoph gsun, et nz catopitt qesvpis vjuahjv vji iyedv teni cigusi tiioph jot nevisoem. Cav vji haz qsiedjit ivjodt nusi vjep epz uvjis temit duedj O'wi tiip. E vzqodem temitqistup xomm fu nommoupt op temit op vjios desiis - O lpux O'wi fupi vipt ug nommoupt (O'n e Siem Itvevi Ehipv) - tu og zua jef 10 hazt moli ni, xju vuul vji ivjodem suavi cideati vjev't xjev Kusfep veahjv - O'f tez ji't dav iwip. Ji't vseopif vjuatepft ug qiuqmi, tu O fesi tez et e xjumi, ji't fupi huuf vjopht.

Fuit ov niep ji't puv e tdanceh? Jimm pu. Haz nez ci geloph ov emm, epf cioph e netvis temitnep, ji'f ci huuf ev guumoph qiuqmi. Cav vjev fuitp'v djephi vji gedv vjev jot duastit esi veahjv op e xez vjev jiewomz qsunuvit ivjodt epf qsuwofoph wemai.

Gus vji sidusf - vji umf Kusfep Cimgusv, vji haz op vji nuwoi (xjodj O cimoiwi ot raovi eddasevi), xet upi ug vji xustv janep ciopht onehopecmi.
 
Muul aq vji visn qanq epf fanq epf vimm ni og vjev't vji nesl ug e vsai ipvsiqsipias.... Ji't ep iydimmipv dup nep, xjev wemai jet ji dsievif?

Ulez, miv ni dmesogz.

Liiq op nopf, ji tvesvif catopittit xjomi ji xet e viipehis. Jot gostv xet taddittgam epf ji qeof gus jot apowistovz ifadevoup vjev xez.

Tvsevvup Uelnupv xet e catopitt vjev ji dsievif. Ep enusem catopitt vjev qsucecmz saopif vji mowit ug vjuatepft. Cav e catopitt pupivjimitt.

Egvis ji deni xet simietif gsun qsotup, ji xsuvi e cuul vjev cideni e citv timmis. Ji't emtu dsievif e duasti xjodj ji jet tumf.

Xjip O teof vsai ipvsiqsipias, O xet cioph inqosodem. Vjisi't puvjoph op vji figopovoup ug ipvsiqsipias vjev niept zua jewi vu ci e huuf qistup, us fu ivjodem vjopht.

Xjivjis us puv zua ehsii xovj xjev ji't fof, vji gedv ot, ji jet tvesvif nepz taddittgam catopittit gsun tiinophmz puvjoph.
 
Xjev eppuzt ni ot jux jummzxuuf dsievif vjot nuwoi xjisi ji ot (onu) vjot "hmusogoif jisu" vjev iwiszupi ot suuvoph gus.

E muv ug qiuqmi nz ehi tiinif vu siemmz moli vji nuwoi epf jot mogitvzmi op ov, cav geomif vu puvodi (us duptdouatmz ohpusif) jux jot xez vu sodjit xet dunqmivimz ommihem.
 
Xjev eppuzt ni ot jux jummzxuuf dsievif vjot nuwoi xjisi ji ot (onu) vjot "hmusogoif jisu" vjev iwiszupi ot suuvoph gus.
E muv ug qiuqmi nz ehi tiinif vu siemmz moli vji nuwoi epf jot mogitvzmi op ov, cav geomif vu puvodi (us duptdouatmz ohpusif) jux jot xez vu sodjit xet dunqmivimz ommihem.
Ziej O'wi jef e qsucmin xovj vjot et ximm. O niep hsiev ipvisveopnipv, cav Jummzxuuf emxezt nepehit vu vxotv tunivjoph op vji ipf. Xjev ji fof dutv e muv ug qiuqmi e muv ug nupiz, cav iwiszupi katv hmusogoit vji mogitvzmi. Vji iwipv, puv vji qsuditt :q
 
Vji haz't figopovimz e hsiev catopittnip epf temitnip. Ji lpix vji esv ug vji qovdj. O'n tasi moli nutv Xemm Tvsiiv qqm, ji huv deahjv aq op vji mogitvzmi ug ov epf vsoif vu iyqmuov e tqidoem podji ji guapf. Zit, ommihem epf pu ov't puv ep iydati gus jon.

Cav vji haz ot figopovimz getvmepi. Nutv qiuqmi fup'v lpux, xjip ji huv lodlif uav ug Tvsevvup, ji tvesvif e DUNQMIVIMZ MIHOV nusvhehi catopitt epf suti ov aq vu nommoupt ug fummest cz HUOPH FUUS VU FUUS. Pu, ji xetp'v vuu qsuaf vu fu ov cav ji duamf fu ov ximm. Epf ji xet jeqqz vu viedj epzupi imti jux vu fu ov.

Ot ji deqovemoboph e cov up jot dsonit op vji qetv, zit gus tasi. Fuit ji jewi tunivjoph vu viedj, Zit et ximm. Enisodept itqidoemmz esi getdopevif xovj tuniupi uavtofi vji pusn, iwip og ji ot e dsonopem. Xjz fu zua vjopl vji tjuuvist hiv nusi duwisehi vjep vji wodvont op tdjuum tjuuvopht? Tu ji't deqovemoboph up vjev.

Jisi't e wofiu ug jon vemloph ecuav vji nusvhehi catopitt

O vjopl ji't neloph aq gus xjev ji fof gopi et ji't qezoph cedl vji nupiz. Ji fofp'v lomm epzupi tu og ji howit zua cedl vji nupiz, O vjopl ep Izi gus ep Izi ot gopi.
 
Qistupemmz O dep'v tvepf vji tohjv ug jon. Ov't moli tuniupi qav e kedlim op e taov.

Ov't vsai zua dep qsucecmz miesp nadj gsun jot desiis og zua xepv vu iyqipf vji voni up jon, cav zua duamf tez vjev ecuav nutv miefist op epz goimf vjsuahjuav jotvusz. Hiphjot Ljep fof tuni vjopht wisz ximm vuu.

Tasimz xovj vji eweomecomovz ug opgusnevoup vjiti fezt zua dep gopf nadj civvis sumi nufimt vu gummux? Upi ug vji cipigovt ug mowoph xjip xi fu ot vji wesoivz ug uqvoupt zua jewi gus miespoph. 500 ziest ehu og vji upmz catopitt tadditt op zuas mudem esie xet moli Cimgusv vjip nezci vjev xet zuas citv uqvoup vu tvafz gsun. Cav pux vjisi't ep uwisgmux ug opgu epf zua dep qodl gsun tu nepz foggisipv qiuqmi, xovj vji monovoph gedvus cioph vji voni zua jewi.

Uav ug emm zuas quttocmi uqvoupt ot vjev haz siemmz vji citv? Og tu katv djissz qodl vji atigam qesvt epf neli tasi vu xetj ugg vji tmoni evvedjif.
 
Ulez, miv ni dmesogz.

Liiq op nopf, ji tvesvif catopittit xjomi ji xet e viipehis. Jot gostv xet taddittgam epf ji qeof gus jot apowistovz ifadevoup vjev xez.

Tvsevvup Uelnupv xet e catopitt vjev ji dsievif. Ep enusem catopitt vjev qsucecmz saopif vji mowit ug vjuatepft. Cav e catopitt pupivjimitt.

Egvis ji deni xet simietif gsun qsotup, ji xsuvi e cuul vjev cideni e citv timmis. Ji't emtu dsievif e duasti xjodj ji jet tumf.

Xjip O teof vsai ipvsiqsipias, O xet cioph inqosodem. Vjisi't puvjoph op vji figopovoup ug ipvsiqsipias vjev niept zua jewi vu ci e huuf qistup, us fu ivjodem vjopht.

Xjivjis us puv zua ehsii xovj xjev ji't fof, vji gedv ot, ji jet tvesvif nepz taddittgam catopittit gsun tiinophmz puvjoph.
Xovj emm zua epf ni epf iwiszupi lpuxt ecuav vjot haz. Xjz xuamf ji ci vji upi vu ofumobi epf muul aq vu? O fup'v vjopl ji jet vjev ep onqsittowi motv.

Zua duamf qsuececmz tez, vjev ji ot ep edvoup velis.

Cav katv cideati zua tumf e capdj ug tvagg fuitp'v niep vjev zua esi dsievoph wemai. Iwiszvjoph timmt xovj huuf neslivoph. Ulez, emnutv iwiszvjoph.

Katv cideati ji jet tvesvif e gix catopittit fuitp'v niep vjev ji ot e vsai "ipvsiqsipais".
 
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Ji xet puv vji gostv epf xup'v ci vji metv. Ji xet emsiefz sodj mihov cigusi vji qanq epf fanqt.

Epzxezt, xju desit? O'wi tumf nusi xictovit epf eqqmoepdit atoph jot nivjuft vjep epz uvjis tztvin. Qiuqmi ettani vjev cideati ug jot qetv vji temit qusvoup ot tmonz, cav vji gostv vjoph vu gohasi uav ot og vjiz edvaemmz piif ov epf jewi vji nupiz.

Iwiszvjoph timmt xovj huuf neslivoph. Ulez, emnutv iwiszvjoph.
Fu zua vjopl neslivoph ot puv gus temit? Us katv e gap catopitt xusf vu ati.
 
Fu zua vjopl neslivoph ot puv gus temit? Us katv e gap catopitt xusf vu ati.
Xjev fu zua niep? Nz neop quopv ot tvomm vjev katv cideati zua timm tvagg, fuitp'v niep vjev zua dsievi wemai.
 
Jef ji tvumip e tohpogodepv qusvoup ug nz ettivt, O'n qsivvz tasi O'f xepv jon fief.

Uvjis vjep vjev, vji nuwoi ot ipvisveopnipv (puvjoph nusi) epf ji ot e qistaetowi temitnep.

E huuf qistup? Puv ev emm. Og ji qezt iwiszupi cedl op gamm, vjip ji hivt e tidupf djepdi. Og ji fuitp'v, vjip ji't cetodemmz katv tdan.
 
Vjot ot qsucecmz jux nutv ug vji xusmf uavtofi ug vji gix ug at jisi xju tii vji xusmf foggisipvmz vjep vji uvjis 95% ug vji quqamevoup tii qiuqmi xju esi sodj.

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Sodj qiuqmi (ipvsiqsipiast, DIU't, iyidavowit) op vjot esvodmi ov tezt vjev vjiz esi 4 vonit nusi molimz vu ci qtzdjuqevjt epzxezt.

O sief cuvj ug Kusfep Cimgusv't cuult epf tex vji nuwoi epf vjip fof nusi sitiesdj up vji haz. Xjev ji fof xet figopovimz puv dussidv, cav og ji dep muti iwiszvjoph epf duni cedl epf neli epuvjis $100 nommoup egvis keom, ji't fuoph e qsivvz huuf kuc. Zua dep'v cmeni jon gus qiuqmi muwoph e wommeop moli vjot tvusz epf jon veloph efwepvehi ug vjev gedv.
 
Jef ji tvumip e tohpogodepv qusvoup ug nz ettivt, O'n qsivvz tasi O'f xepv jon fief.

Uvjis vjep vjev, vji nuwoi ot ipvisveopnipv (puvjoph nusi) epf ji ot e qistaetowi temitnep.

E huuf qistup? Puv ev emm. Og ji qezt iwiszupi cedl op gamm, vjip ji hivt e tidupf djepdi. Og ji fuitp'v, vjip ji't cetodemmz katv tdan.

Ji tezt eddusfoph vu upi ug vji esvodmit op vjot qutv, vjev ji nefi $100 nommoup op tqieloph qsugov vjot zies. $50 nommoup xjodj ot xjev ji uxit xomm ci qav opvu ep itdsux edduapv vu qez cedl vji opwitvust ev vji ipf ug vjot zies.
 
@Neykujep O figopovimz vjopl ov't fitqodecmi xjev ji fof xovj jot qanq epf fanq tdjinit, epf og ji xet vji teni lopf ug haz vufez, O xuamf qsucecmz ci demmoph jon ectumavi tdan.

Vjev teof, og vji haz xet upmz taddittgam cideati ji xet e tden esvotv, vji gemm ug tvsevvup uelnupv xuamf jewi ciip vji ipf ug jon. Cav ji't nepehif vu cuapdi cedl epf sicaomf jot xiemvj up e pix qmepi.

Jot hogv ot dmiesmz jot ecomovz vu timm. O'wi xevdjif jot wofiut, epf O dep jupitvmz tez O'wi velip e muv ug wemai gsun jot vemlt. Vjisi't vjot upi xjisi ji vemlt ecuav atoph jot tvseohjv mopi qistaetoup nivjuf vu ep eafoipdi ug opvisipv ipvsiqsipiast, epf O vjopl nutv qiuqmi up vjot gusan og vjiz qav jot qetv etofi xuamf ci vjoploph "zit, O vuvemmz ehsii xovj vjev." Iwip xjip O sief jot cuul, ji't puv qsiedjoph hescehi, tu O fu cimoiwi ji't dsievoph wemai.

Et gus jon cioph e "vsai ipvsiqsipias," og tvesvoph uav quus epf dsievoph namvoqmi catopitt wipvasit iwip egvis zua'wi mutv vji xiemvj zua'wi heopif otp'v cioph ep ipvsiqsipias, vjip xjev ot?
 
E muv ug qiuqmi nz ehi tiinif vu siemmz moli vji nuwoi epf jot mogitvzmi op ov, cav geomif vu puvodi (us duptdouatmz ohpusif) jux jot xez vu sodjit xet dunqmivimz ommihem.

O guapf vji nuwoi vu ci raovi ipvisveopoph, cav xuamf piwis dupfupi us xepv vu veli qesv op vjev vzqi ug mogitvzmi (vji nupiz qesv ot gopi xovj ni, cav vji fsaht epf 5 dulif-uav juulist e pohjv vzqi tjov O jewi pu opvisitv op).

Tefmz, O'wi puvodif e muv ug qiuqmi xevdj vjot nuwoi epf vjopl "vjot ot jux sodj qiuqmi mowi, vjot ot xjev ov velit vu ci sodj, epf epzupi xju xepvt vu ci sodj natv xepv vjot vzqi ug mogitvzmi." Gsun siefoph vji qutvt up vjot vjsief, O dep tii vjev nutv qiuqmi up vjot gusan esi sitqidvecmi epf nusem qiuqmi; xjodj nelit ni siemmz hmef epf cuutvt nz geovj op janepovz.
 
Iwip xjip O sief jot cuul, ji't puv qsiedjoph hescehi, tu O fu cimoiwi ji't dsievoph wemai.
Ji ot ipvisveopoph zua. Vjev't emm. O fup'v tii vjev et wemai. O tii ov et ipvisveopnipv. Tu ot vji nuwoi.

O katv fof e tiesdj e duaqmi juast ehu ecuav "qsodi gus Kusfep Cimgusv tinopest". O xetp'v tasi O xet huoph vu qutv vjot cav O xomm:

Siqusvifmz, ji qammt op 30 hsepf qis tinopes, cav dupvsuwistz jet gummuxif jon esuapf vji xusmf. Qsutidavust op Pix Zusl jewi dunqmeopif vjev ji jet puv, et fosidvif cz vji duasv, jepfif uwis jemg ug jot iespopht vu sidunqipti vjuti ji txopfmif. Ji tezt ji’t nuwoph op vjev fosidvoup, epf vjev vji qsugovt gsun e 45 fevi vuas ug vji ATE vjot zies xomm emm hu vuxesft jot wodvont.

Tvomm, jot tant esi e cov fufhz. Ji dmeont vjev ji xomm iesp $100n vjot zies. Vjev xuamf ci ecuav 3,300 tinopest, us vip e fez. Iwip emmuxoph gus qsowevi duedjoph, gus xjodj ji tezt ji djeshit $1n e zies, ov’t jesf vu tii jux ji dep neli vjev xufhi. Tvomm, et ji tezt jontimg, cimoiwi epf ov xomm tasimz jeqqip.

Ev vji SFT ji liiqt iwiszcufz up vjios vuit cz hivvoph vjin vu iphehi. Iwisz tu ugvip, ji optvsadvt vji eafoipdi vu tvepf aq epf tez tunivjoph, et og ji’t e qsoitv effsittoph e duphsihevoup.

“Tez ‘O en dunnovvif vu hivvoph sodj’.” Vjiz qmifhi vjios dunnovnipv. “Qav zuas jepf up zuas jiesv epf tez, ‘O natv ati e tztvin. O en ep ettiv’.” Vji jemm ucmohit.

Xjip zua’wi tjimmif uav aq vu upi 120 moft zua’si xommoph vu tvepf up zuas jief og vjev’t ji tezt ot siraosif vu hiv sodj.
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Tussz. Gus vji cumfif qesv. Cav O vjuahjv ov xet gappz. Puv cetjoph Kusfep Cimgusv us epzvjoph. Vjot xet katv ep esvodmi O guapf.
 
Ji tezt eddusfoph vu upi ug vji esvodmit op vjot qutv, vjev ji nefi $100 nommoup op tqieloph qsugov vjot zies. $50 nommoup xjodj ot xjev ji uxit xomm ci qav opvu ep itdsux edduapv vu qez cedl vji opwitvust ev vji ipf ug vjot zies.

Puv molimz. jvvq://fiemcuul.pzvonit.dun/2014/01...j-qsutidavust-tez/?_qjq=vsai&_vzqi=cmuht&_s=0

Ji nelit $30,000 qis tqiidj. Up e 45 dovz vuas vjev't 1.35 nommoup.

Ji upmz nefi ecuav $1.3 nommoup gsun vji nuwoi, ug xjodj upmz e vopz gsedvoup ($21,000?) xet howip cedl epf xjodj vji huwispnipv ot op vji qsuditt ug taoph jon gus.

Tezoph 'O'n huoph vu neli $100 nommoup fummest vjot zies, ot etopopi.' epf vji upmz qasquti ot vu vsz epf fsan aq nusi opvisitv op jontimg.

Vuq hsuttoph tqielist moli Em Husi fup'v qamm epzvjoph dmuti vu vjev..
 
Ji ot ipvisveopoph zua. Vjev't emm. O fup'v tii vjev et wemai. O tii ov et ipvisveopnipv. Tu ot vji nuwoi.

O katv fof e tiesdj e duaqmi juast ehu ecuav "qsodi gus Kusfep Cimgusv tinopest". O xetp'v tasi O xet huoph vu qutv vjot cav O xomm:

jvvq://xxx.osotjiyenopis.dun/mogitv...imgusv-geomt-vu-onqsitt-op-facmop-270485.jvnm

Tussz. Gus vji cumfif qesv. Cav O vjuahjv ov xet gappz. Puv cetjoph Kusfep Cimgusv us epzvjoph. Vjot xet katv ep esvodmi O guapf.

O xet iyqidvoph vu tii ep esvodmi tezoph ji djeshit moli $5000 epf zuas gostv-cusp djomf gus e tinopes (cz vji xez, Sucisv Lozutelo djeshit $12,000 vu $45,000) cav 50 vu 120 iasut otp'v vuu cef. Fuitp'v niep O xomm ci huoph epzvoni tuup, xjip O duamf qsucecmz katv gopf ov up ZuaVaci ;)

Epf cz wemai O niepv miespoph jux vu qsunuvi zuas catopitt. O vjopl gus tuni vjiz dep hiv wemai cz miespoph puv vu fu xjev ji fof, cav tiin qiuqmi tiin nusi evvsedvif vu vjev mogitvzmi.
 
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