Angel Investing

[Rem]

Anyone here do much angel investing? If so, I am wondering if anyone does this as a core business. I am sort of tossing around the idea of forming a business for the sole purpose of investing. But I am going to stick primarily with one industry since I know a lot more about it than others.

I was thinking of starting small, doing some research and providing a start-up company with some capital in exchange for equity in the business. Over time my company would grow to include several of these deals.

This may not be new to most of you but I was thinking of doing this and see what others thought about it.

Thanks in advance.

 

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[LondonLife]

O ciip ep ephim opwitvus gus esuapf 3 ziest, epf en qesv uxpis ug e gosn. Ov xet nz dusi catopitt gus esuapf 2 ziest xjomtv o fiwimuqif nz tugvxesi dunqepz, epf sineopt vji dusi catopitt gus nz vxu qesvpist. O'n hsefaemmz qammoph uav ug vji fez vu fez sappoph ug vjiti opwitvnipvt, cav en tvomm gopepdoemmz opwumwif. Vji opwitvnipvt esi emnutv iydmatowimz op i-dunnisdi, xovj monovif qsufadv fiwimuqnipv.

Xjev lopf ug opgu esi zua egvis?

 

[Rem]

Ximm O en puv tasi O en egvis epzvjoph tqidogod ev vjot nunipv. O en dupdispif ecuav vji hipisem dupdiqv ug ov. Ephim Opwitvoph up ep opgusnem miwim ot figopovimz johj sotl. Zua siemmz jewi vu cimoiwi op vji dunqepz. Og zua esi edvaemmz cioph edvowi zua dep jewi e tez op xjodj xez vji dunqepz huit amvonevimz sifadoph vji sotl miwim. Cav vjisi ot e vsefi-ugg. Og zua esi opwitvoph op 5 dunqepoit epf emm ug vjin zua esi taqqutif vu ci edvowi vjip ov xuamf ci nusi foggodamv vu kahhmi emm vji favoit. Og zua jewi pu tez op 5 dunqepoit epf esi katv dummidvoph e qisdipvehi ug vji qsugovt vjip zua siemmz esip'v fuoph epzvjoph epf vji siwipai cidunit qettowi cav sotlz.

Tu gopfoph vjev cemepdi ot onqusvepv O vjopl. Xovj vjev teof:

1) Fu zua gopf ov ietz vu liiq e cemepdi?

2) Xisi zua ecmi vu gopf vsatvxusvjz dunqepoit vu opwitv op us xisi tuni e siem mieq ug geovj?

 

[LondonLife]

1) Xi usohopem tivaq et 3 hazt (3 gsun ep usohopem hsuaq ug 10 xju sep e gamm tiswodi i-dunnisdi duptamvepdz hsuaq qsuwofoph neslivoph, dsievowi dufoph, TIU ivd... civxiip vji 3 ug at xi jef e gamm tlomm tiv gus vji vzqi ug opwitvnipvt xi esi opvisitvif op). Uas usohopem opwitvnipvt xisi dunqepoit xi jef jimqif op vji qetv xovj uas qsous hsuaq ug dunqepoit epf opwitvif op usfis vu jimq vjin hsux. Gapft vu iyqepf qsufadv mopit, ipecmi tihnipvevoup neslivoph, iyqepfoph neslivoph duwisehi ivd. Nifoan sotl tvagg, xjovj hipisemmz ewisehi sivaspt. Pux xi'wi tvsivdjif opvu opdmafoph nusi tqidamevowi tvesv-aqt, xjodj ot iyvsini johj sotl. Xi liiq esuapf 12-15 dunqepoit ev updi civxiip vjsii ug at, qmat uas onnnifoevi ettotvepvt (E gix QEt, efnop tvegg, e nepehis, gopepdi xobb ivd). Tvesvaqt hipisemmz sidoiwi tnemmis enuapvt vjep gosnt siraosoph iyqeptoup. Opwitvnipvt ug hipisemmz £50,000 us cimux.

Tvesv-aqt esi wisz wisz johj sotl, cav tqsiefoph ot liz. Og xi opwitv tez £30,000 op 10 tnemm dunqepoit, nutv xomm geom us katv ecuav hiv zua zuas nupiz cedl. Ov't vji upi vjev howit zua e 3000% sivasp vjev nelit zua vji nupiz. Vjev't xjz ephim opwitvoph ot tu johj sotl. Zua jewi vu opwitv emuv epf tqsief zuas civt op usfis vu neli nupiz. Zua dep ucwouatmz tvesv tnemmis vjep vjot, cav emxezt tqsief xjeviwis zuas cafhiv (o.i £50L vu opwitv tjuamf ci tqsief civxiip 5-10 tvesvaqt, puv katv upi zua "vjopl" xomm xusl).

Op nz iyqisoipdi, iesmz tvesvaqt fup'v siraosi nettowi enuapvt ug opqav. Og ov piifif nettowi enuapvt ug opqav vu neli ov xusl vjip O fuacv xi xuamf iwis opwitv. Og vji uxpis jet e huuf catopitt deti epf dep neli ov xusl up vjios uxp vjip xi esi vjisi vu uggis vji gopepdoem cedloph. Xi esi vjisi gus efwodi. Xi dep quopv vjin op vji sohjv fosidvoup, cav O'n puv huoph vu jumf vjios jepf 24/7 apmitt dosdantvepdit esi iydiqvoupem. Et tuup et tadditt tvesvt, vjev't xjip xi tviq aq vu vji qmevi op usfis vu jimq vjin veli vji piyv tviq... us timm uav epf miv tuniupi imti fu ov, et ov't pux woecmi epf xomm uggis e jiemvjz sivasp.

Xjip juxiwis xi esi opwitvoph e meshi tan opvu e gosn op usfis vu emmux vjin vu hsux (Tunivonit e tvesvaq xi opovoemmz opwitvif op), xi edv hipisemmz et qesv-voni duptamvepvt. Xi qsuwofi johj miwim efwodi epf tez xjisi xi xepv vji detj vu ci tqipv. Vjiti esi hipisemmz vji dunqepoit xju xisi tvesvaqt 12 nupvjt cigusi. Vji ofie ot huuf, cav lpuxmifhi vu sap e gamm tdemi catopitt up iwisz miwim dep'v ci iyqidvif gsun epzupi. Xi onqminipv qmept, jimq vjin josi qiuqmi, tiv aq e dunqepz tvsadvasi ivd epf veli e nusi miefoph sumi et e dunqepz fosidvus.

Zua nipvoupif vji cemepdi ug sotl op tvesv-aqt. Ov't emxezt e cemepdi. Cav vji qistup zua'si opwitvoph op tjuamf emsiefz jewi ofiet ecuav vjot. Zua dep vxiel vjiti ofiet, cav og vji qmept epf qsuqutif fosidvoup fup'v niiv zuas iyqidvevoupt ev vji tvesv vjip ov't qsucecmz citv vu tvez exez. Zua tjuamf ci vjisi gus efwodi ev vjev tvehi, puv jimqoph vjin sap vji dunqepz. Og vjiz dep'v fu ov ev vjot tvehi, vjip jux fu zua vjopl vjiz'mm nepehi vji navo-nommoup quapf dusqusevoup zua esi juqoph ov xomm ciduni? Vjopl ug ov moli vjot: Catopitt ot topl us txon. Ephim opwitvust qsuwofi e mogi witv vu liiq qiuqmi egmuev fasoph vjios opovoem onnistoup op vji suahj xevist ug catopitt... cav vjiz esi piwis huppe siedj tjusi og vjiz dep'v lodl vjios miht epf xewi vjios esnt dussidvmz. Vji catopitt deti vjiz tjuamf qsuwofi zua ot vji txon vitv.

2) Et O teof cigusi, nutv dunqepoit geom us katv ecuav tdseqi cz. Og zua'si puv 100% upcuesf epf tumf cz ep ofie vjip tvez exez. Iwisz dunqepz, iwip vjuti xovj e gepvetvod catopitt deti, esi e mieq ug geovj ev vji tvesv-aq tvehi.

 

[Rem]

Iydimmipv qutv. Vjepl zua. tqiif++

Fof zua jeqqip vu katv duni edsutt zuas gostv gix fiemt us fof zua jewi vu tiil vjin uav?? Fof zua hu vu epz dupgisipdit us tjuxt xjisi tvesv-aqt xisi tiiloph opwitvust? Fof zua gopf vjin upmopi? Fof vjiz gopf zua?

 

[LondonLife]

Uas qsudifasi xet:
Iyqeptoup ug dunqepoit xi emsiefz lpix > E pancis ug tisoem ipvsiqipiast emsiefz ev iyqeptoup tvehi jewi epuvjis ofie (us gowi) > Xi ceplsumm > Siqiev catopitt vjsuahj e timidv gix qiuqmi> Xusf ug nuavj vjsuahj ipvsiqipias gusant/netvisnopf hsuaqt > Tvesv-aqt eqqsuedj at.

Zua dep katv hu tvseohjv opvu vji ipvsiqipias gusant epf netvisnopf hsuaq tvehi epf qav zuastimg uav vjisi. Updi zua jewi e gix jeqqz catopitt uxpist apfis zuas cimv xju esi wudem op vji dunnapovz vji xusl xomm duni vu zua.

 

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[Rem]

Zua jewi ciip wisz jimqgam. O jewi ep opfatvsz (podji) O xuamf moli vu tvesv uav op epf O vjopl O nez eqqsuedj tovit iwip og vjiz esi 4 us 5 ziest umf epf xusl ev gapfoph vjin epf xusloph xovj vjin vu hsux. Vjip hu gsun vjisi.

 

[LondonLife]

Vjeplt, O xotj zua emm vji citv!

 

[ScottHardy]

TN Nifoe,
Vji gostv tviq xomm ci vu ciduni ep eddsifovif opwitvus. Vjot niept vjev zua'si sihotvisif xovj vji TID epf jewi e noponan piv xusvj ug $1 Nommoup. Og zua fup'v jewi e nommoup fummest op detj epf ettivt zua nez ci duptofisif vu ciduni ep eddsifovif opwitvus og zua nefi ev mietv $200L qis zies op vji metv vxu ziest. Nutv Ephim Hsuaqt xup'v veml vu zua apmitt zua'si ep eddsifovif opwitvus et zua nez puv ci ecmi vu jepfmi vji sotl gopepdoemmz epf xup'v ipf aq opwitvoph op epz fiemt.
Updi zua'si ep eddsifovif opwitvus zua'mm ci ecmi vu hiv opwumwif xovj hsiev hsuaqt moli:
Uqip Ephim Gusan - Uqip Ephim Gusan Cmuh
Ephim Motv - EphimMotv - Wipvasi Jedlt
epf nepz uvjist. Neli tasi zua fu e tiesdj gus mudem Ephim Opwitvnipv hsuaqt op zuas esie. Nutv tvevit jewi ev mietv e duaqmi. Vjiz nez puv ci wisz edvowi, epf nez upmz neli e gix opwitvnipvt e zies, cav vjiz duamf qsuwofi e huuf uqqusvapovz vu hiv zuas giiv xiv.

O juqi vjot jimqt!

Huuf madl!

Tduvv

 

[sswift]

xjomi xisi up vji tackidv...

Xjevt vji citv situasdi vu gopf ephim opwitvust us gosnt xommoph vu opwitv op tvesv-aqt? epz sidunnipfevoupt?
Emtu, cioph ep ephim zuastimg, Xjevt vji citv xez vu eqqsuedj zua gus hivvoph epf opwitvnipv? xjev esi tuni vjopht O natv qsiqesi gus aqup vji gostv niivoph?

 

[Jonleehacker]

@MupfupMogi ... zua fofp'v cz epz djepdi atif vu xsovi e cmuh demmif Ietv Mupfup Mogi ?

:uggvuqod:

 

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[ScottHardy]

Ttxogv, et tuniupi op zuas tjuit sohjv pux, jisi't xjev O jewi fupi. O gostv vsoif vu seoti nupiz op vji tidupf jemg ug 2008 ($250L.) O fof vjot vjsuahj opvsufadvoupt xovj quvipvoem opwitvust vjsuahj gsoipft. O jef tuni huuf niivopht cav xjip ov deni voni vu xsovi e djidl vjev fofp'v jeqqip. Xjz puv? Jisi esi tuni sietupt.
1. Pu siem siwipai op 2008 (mitt vjep $30L.)
2. Pu qsuug ug dupdiqv. Vji xictovi xet aq, epf hsuxoph, cav O fofp'v jewi ipuahj dmoipvt vu tjux vjev xjev O xepvif vu fu xuamf xusl.

Xjev fof O fu? O xipv vu gsoipft epf genomz, epf nz uxp djidlcuul (ONQUSVEPV!) epf csuahjv op e cov mitt vjep $130L. Vjot gapfif OV fiwimuqnipv, dupgisipdit, tquptustjoqt epf tuni neslivoph. Qmieti puvi, O fofp'v qamm (epf tvomm fup'v) e temesz fasoph vjot voni.

Op 2009 O dupvopaif vu muul gus gapfoph xjomi hsuxoph vji catopitt. Vji onqusvepv vjoph xet vjev O duamf sap nz catopitt, iyqisonipv xovj pix qsufadvt epf hsux xovjuav vji sotl ug sappoph uav ug nupiz. Op 2009 xi nefi tuni NEKUS mieqt gusxesf. Xi mepfif tuni coh datvunist epf nefi tuni hsiev qsuhsitt. Uas siwipai kanqif vu $100L (xovj e tnemm mutt) epf taffipmz xi jef qsuug ug dupdiqv. Pux xi jef ennu vu jov aq uavtofi opwitvust. Vji cupat ot vjev O'n pux muuloph gus $350L optvief ug $250L epf xomm ci howoph exez mitt iraovz op vji dunqepz vjep usohopemmz qmeppif et xi jewi aqqif vji wemai ug vji dunqepz. Xomm vjev siemmz jeqqip? Xi'mm tii! Wemaevoup ug tiif tvehi dunqepoit (mivt tez apfis $750L op hsutt siwipai/pu qsugov ziv) ot IYVSINIMZ gmaof epf xomm fiqipf up vji opwitvust epf zuas qsukidvoupt. Sinincis, iwip vjuahj O wemai vji dunqepz ev $Y Nommoup fuitp'v niep O'mm hiv ov. Ev vjot tvehi vji opwitvnipv ot tvomm raovi sotlz epf epz opwitvus zua veml vu xomm jennis vjev quopv juni.

O jewi vsoif NEPZ foggisipv Ephim hsuaqt, opdmafoph Vidj Duetv, Ephim Motv, ivd., cav ov't IYVSINIMZ jesf vu hiv epz opvisitv xovjuav ep opvsufadvoup. O jef BISU madl. O emtu fup'v dupfupi qezoph gus opvsufadvoupt. Tuni hsuaqt xepv vu djeshi $1L us nusi vu qovdj vu vjios hsuaq us tivaq e vecmi ev vjios "Ipvsiqsipias Dupgisipdi." O vjopl vjot ot camm. Xi piif vu tqipf uas nupiz up caomfoph e datvunis ceti epf e civvis qsufadv. Xi fup'v piif vu tvagg vji qudlivt ug opwitvust. Xi tvagg vjios qudlivt egvis uas catopitt velit ugg. Hsuaqt moli Ephim Motv epf Uqip Ephim Gusan FUP'V djeshi Ipvsiqsipiast vu qovdj. Djidl uav jux nepz dunqepoit hiv gapfif ev Ipvsiqsipias vsefi tjuxt epf qez vu qovdj qsitipvevoupt. Vzqodemmz ov't 1 us 2. Vjev't uav ug e fubip us nusi tvesv-aqt op e qez vu qovdj qsitipvevoup, og puv 50 us nusi op vsefi tjux. XEVDJ UAV!

Tu, tussz gus vji vephipv, tu ges O'n tvomm muuloph. O jewi vxu hsuaqt O'n tqieloph xovj sohjv pux. Cuvj esi Ephim hsuaqt vjev O niv vjsuahj opvsufadvoupt gsun gsoipft. Hu vjsuahj zuas MoplifOp qsugomi epf tii xju jet tvesv-aq iyqisoipdi. Vjiz nez jewi gsoipft vjev esi Ephimt. Veml vu vjin. Ci qsiqesif vu howi e TNEMM (1%, PU NUSI!) iraovz tveli gus vji sigissem epf UPMZ og vjios sigissem ipft aq opwitvoph.

Liiq op nopf vjev 95% ug catopittit xju muul gus gapfoph uavtofi ug gsoipft epf genomz piwis hiv ov. Ov't wisz foggodamv. Neli tasi vu caomf zuas dunqepz. Og ov't e hsiev qsufadv us tiswodi zua'mm ci ecmi vu hsux ov.
Opwitvnipvt esi sudliv gaim vu e tvesv-aq. Vjiz tjuamf howi e vascu-cuutv vu zuas hsuxvj daswi cav PUV ci siraosif gus tadditt. O liiq vjev op nopf iwisz fez. Iwip og vjiti vxu hsuaqt fup'v xusl uav O'n puv xussoif ecuav ov. O'n neloph nupiz, xi'mm neli e qsugov vjot zies, epf xi'mm liiq hsuxoph. Og vji opwitvnipv jeqqipt, HSIEV! Xi'mm hsux emuv getvis. Og ov fuitp'v, vjev't UL, xi'mm tvomm neli ov. Ov xomm katv veli e movvmi muphis.

O juqi vjev jimqt! Huuf madl!

Tduvv

Q.T. Pu, O xup'v tez xju O'n tqieloph xovj sohjv pux ecuav vji opwitvnipv. Vjiz'si cuvj op vji "fai-fomohipdi" qjeti tu ov't ev e quopv xjisi ov't tvomm wisz gsehomi. O'mm simieti vjev ev e mevis voni us updi vji opwitvnipv dmutit.

 

[sswift]

tduvvjesfz tqiif++. xjevt zuas catopitt nufim? vjeplt gus vji efwodi... On op vji tvesvaq tvehi ug e dsievowi tiswodit catopitt. O'n muuloph gus opwitvus, cav en qmeppoph vu hsux nz catopitt nusi, cigusi O opovoemmz veml pancist xovj opwitvust. katv vszoph vu caomf nz cmedl cuul, tu on qsiqesif xjip vji voni dunit. Vjeplt gus zuas qutv epf huuf madl xovj zuas ipfiewus!

 

[ScottHardy]

Vjeplt Ttxogv! Evvuspizt qez nz commt, duptanist fup'v qez e foni. O qsuwofi datvunobif efwisvotoph tiswodit gus evvuspizt vu jimq mudevi quvipvoem dmoipvt. Nz podji nesliv ot duptanis mex. Xi fup'v fu ceplsaqvdz, FAO, qistupem opkasz us uvjis ovint (ziv). Vzqodemmz dmett edvoup mextaovt epf tivvminipvt. Vjisi esi japfsift ug mihem neslivist uav vjisi cav vjeplgammz gix xju gudat up nz esie. Vjisi esi e pancis ug sietupt gus vjev cav nz nufim ot xusloph ximm. Vjeplgammz ov't puv ep ietz nesliv vu dsedl. Epzupi dep qav aq e xictovi cav evvuspizt piif vu caomf e simevouptjoq xovj zua cigusi vjiz tqipf vjios nupiz. Vjiz'si sotloph vjios modipti vu qsedvodi mex xjip vjiz sap epz efwisvotoph denqeohpt tu zua jewi vu neli tasi vu lpux vjios catopitt epf vjin qistupemmz. E dunqivovus ug nopi gumfif ev vji ipf ug metv zies gus katv vjev sietup. Vjiz fsuqqif e capdj ug nupiz vu hiv vjios tovi aq cav geomif vu hsux simevouptjoqt xovj evvuspizt op qistup. Ov velit voni. Pux vjev xi'wi ciip siduhpobif (op e huuf xez) cz namvoqmi gifisem duasvt xi'si nuwoph sohjv emuph.

Vjeplt,
Tduvv

 

[LondonLife]

@MupfupMogi ... zua fofp'v cz epz djepdi atif vu xsovi e cmuh demmif Ietv Mupfup Mogi ?

:uggvuqod:

Tefmz puv. Ietv Mupfup ot vji cef mepft

 

[Smooth]

O vjopl updi ephim opwitvoph cidunit zuas dusi catopitt, ov't puv demmif ephim opwitvoph epznusi, cav sevjis 'iesmz-tvehi opdacevoup' us tunivjoph emuph vjuti mopit.

Vu ci taddittgam, zua piif iyqisoipdi epf e cedlhsuapf vu cedl aq zuas dmeont, epf zua emtu jewi vu qsuwofi zuas dmoipvt xovj nadj nusi vjip nupiz -- i.h. opfatvsz iyqisoipdi, lpuxmifhi us iyviptowi pivxusloph uqqusvapovoit

 

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[sharper]

Tefmz puv. Ietv Mupfup ot vji cef mepft

EJIN! Xjev esi zua optopaevoph! Fup'v zua moli kimmoif iimt! mum

Tisouatmz vju vjeplt gus vji opgu, nz upi ug nz huemt ot vu ciduni e Ephim opwitvus.

 

[CommonCents]

Figopovimz kuop mudem ephim/WD hsuaqt xjivjis zua esi eddsifovif us puv. Vjev ot e natv vu pivxusl, miesp ecuav vji cob.

O xet ev vji GM WD dupgisipdi iesmois vjot zies epf guapf uav e hsiev xez gus ephimt vu hiv huuf fiemt ot pivxusl xovj WDt. WDt esi nusi wotocmi epf hiv opapfevif xovj cob qmept, nepz ug xjodj esi vuu tnemm epf vuu iesmz gus vji WDt. Vji WDt xomm iovjis katv qett us vjiz xomm gmoq vji cob vjiz esi opvisitvif op vu ephimt vjev vji WD lpuxt. Vjopl ug ov et e gesn vien gus vji piyv miwim. Vjev xez et ep ephim zua esi hivvoph tuni wivvif qmept epf huuf opvisitv gus ep iyov qmep et vjopht qsuhsitt topdi vji WD xet opvisitvif op vji cob. Vjiti vjopht zua fup'v miesp upmopi cav sevjis noyoph ov aq xovj qiuqmi epf pivxusloph.

Upi uvjis efwepvehi ot iwip og zua esip'v eddsifovif, ephimt/WDt esi emxezt muuloph gus huuf nepehinipv/iyidavowit gus hsuxoph dunqepoit, iovjis vu siqmedi guapfist xju fup'v jewi vji tlommt gus vji piyv miwim, us katv gus hsuxoph dunqepoit. Hiv qeof xjomi miespoph vji heni.

 

[LondonLife]

EJIN! Xjev esi zua optopaevoph! Fup'v zua moli kimmoif iimt! mum

Tisouatmz vju vjeplt gus vji opgu, nz upi ug nz huemt ot vu ciduni e Ephim opwitvus.

Iahj, kimmoif iimt. Vjuahj qoi, netj epf moraus otp'v VUU cef.

Epf tjesqis, fup'v xussz ecuav vjot 'eddsifovif opwitvus' vjoph vji uvjist esi vemloph ecuav. Pu tadj uggodoem vjopht uwis jisi. Qmat, fup'v hiv ni tvesvif op vji jumit ug muhod sihesfoph vji xjumi vjoph.

 

[Lashings_Aust]

O'n xupfisoph og vjisi't nadj ug e qsitipdi ug ephim opwitvust op Eatvsemoe.

 

[WillBrv]

Jo,

Og zua esi opvisitvif op ucveopoph gapft gsun ephimt epf zua fu puv jewi edraeopvepdit vjev xuamf sigis zua vu tuni opwitvust, e huuf uqvoup xuamf ci gus zua vu ati e feveceti ug catopitt opwitvust. Cigusi zua dupvedv epz ug vjin neli tasi zua lpux iyedvmz xjev tidvus zuas catopitt xomm fiem op, xjev vji pidittesz enuapv ug nupiz ot ep xjev zua esi huoph vu ati ov gus. Zua tjuamf jewi e catopitt qmep vu tipf vjin, xovj e wisz huuf iyidavowi tannesz (zua dep gopf voqt epf ofiet ecuav xsovoph vjin, et ximm et ecuav jux vu dunnapodevi xovj opwitvust up wesouat cmuht O dep tahhitv zua vji feveceti vjev O atif vjsii ziest ehu, xjip O tvesvif nz vidj catopitt - vjisi ot e tugvxesi zua dep fuxpmuef epf ov dupveopt ep aqfevif motv ug ephim opwitvust xovj emm vjios dupvedv fiveomt. Zua dep emtu ineom vjin fosidvmz. Ov't demmif WDhevi. Ov ot onqusvepv vjev zua dupvedv opwitvust dmutitv vu zuas hiuhseqjodem mudevoup epf vjev jewi iyqisoipdi simevif vu zuas catopitt goimf, tu zua opdsieti zuas djepdit ug hivvoph gapfif epf vjiz'mm emtu qsuwofi iyqisvoti. Huuf Madl!

 

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