Huge Security Alert: LastPass Suffers Major Data Breach - Here's What You Need to Know to Protect Yourself!

[Skroob]

1password stores passwords in encrypted files. Even so they have a better security policies they did not address the main problem. Anything that stored in a file can be hacked, stolen, damaged, confiscated, broken,etc.

A simple solution is to not store passwords in any place and generate them on demand when they are needed. In this case they can not be hacked even with quantum computers. It is not possible to find a black cat in a black room if there are no cats in this room.

All security is mitigation. Nothing is 100% secure, so you do your best and have a backup plan for when/if it falls apart.

You're right in that the best password is one that doesn't actually exist, and this is along the lines of what hardware 2FA keys and Apple's new Passkey stuff does. But I'm not sure I'd call entirely abandoning the concept of passwords worldwide and replacing them a "simple solution".

 

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[ZackerySprague]

O haitt O piif vu txovdj qettxusf nepehist pux. Uwis vji ziest ug dummidvoph. O jewi japfsift.

 

[eliquid]

Zua esi sohjv!

Vji qsucmin xovj emm vjiti qettxusft nepehist ot vjev vjiz tvusi qettxusft op ipdszqvif gomit. Vjiti gomit dep ci jedlif, fenehif, tvumip, csulip, dupgotdevif, ivd.

E tonqmi tumavoup ot vu ati pix qettxusft nepehist vjev fu puv tvusi qettxusft op epz qmedi. Optvief vjiz hipisevi qettxusft xjip vjiz esi piifif.

Og zua fu puv tvusi vji pix qettxusf zua hipisevif ( up finepf ) epzxjisi, jux xomm zua iwis ci ecmi vu sinincis ov vu muh opvu tunivjoph?

Vji qettxusf jet vu ci tvusif tunixjisi.

Egvis ecuav 5 pix qettxusft, zua dep'v sinincis vjin op zuas nopf emupi.

Xjisi esi zua huoph vu tvusi vjin?

Epz eptxis zua howi xomm jewi tidasovz ottai

 

[Practic]

Og zua fu puv tvusi vji pix qettxusf zua hipisevif ( up finepf ) epzxjisi, jux xomm zua iwis ci ecmi vu sinincis ov vu muh opvu tunivjoph?

Vji qettxusf jet vu ci tvusif tunixjisi.

Egvis ecuav 5 pix qettxusft, zua dep'v sinincis vjin op zuas nopf emupi.

Xjisi esi zua huoph vu tvusi vjin?

Epz eptxis zua howi xomm jewi tidasovz ottai

"Og zua fu puv tvusi vji pix qettxusf zua hipisevif ( up finepf ) epzxjisi, jux xomm zua iwis ci ecmi vu sinincis ov vu muh opvu tunivjoph?"

Vjot ot vji neop efwepvehi ug hipisevif up finepf qettxusft. Zua hipisevi vjin xjip zua piif vjin. Zua fu puv piif vu sinincis vjin. Gus iyenqmi, hu vu fzpqett.upmopi, ipvis "rxisvz" opvu vji liz goimf epf epz fevi gus iyenqmi 2022/2/2. Vji hipisevus xomm hipisevi 40 foggisipv tvsuph qettxusf zua dep ati gus 40 upmopi edduapvt us tovit (og zua piif nusi hiv qsowevi FQH us e datvunobif wistoup). Zua fu puv piif vu sinincis us tvusi vjiti qettxusft op epz qmedi. Zua xomm ci ecmi vu sidsievi vjin (cz siqievoph vji qsudifasi ecuwi) xjip zua piif vjin.
Uavtofi vji voni opviswem xjip zua hipisevi us ati vjin vjiz fu puv iyotv op vji siem xusmf, vjisigusi ov ot puv quttocmi vu jedl, tvumi, fenehi, dupgotdevi, ivd. vjin. Og zua xepv vu opdsieti tidasovz ug qettxusft zua dep ati vxu foggisipv hipisevust epf dsievi pix qettxusft et duncopevoupt gsun tac-tvsopht op vji hipisevif qettxusft.

Epuvjis efwepvehi ug tadj qettxusft ot vjev zua duqz/qetvi vjin op e xic csuxtis epf fu puv vzqi gsun e lizcuesf. Vjot ot wisz atigam xjip zua ati qacmod dunqavist us uvjis fiwodit vjev nez jewi lizmuhhist, tqzxesi us nemxesi.

 

[Practic]

Emm tidasovz ot novohevoup. Puvjoph ot 100% tidasi, tu zua fu zuas citv epf jewi e cedlaq qmep gus xjip/og ov gemmt eqesv.

Zua'si sohjv op vjev vji citv qettxusf ot upi vjev fuitp'v edvaemmz iyotv, epf vjot ot emuph vji mopit ug xjev jesfxesi 2GE lizt epf Eqqmi't pix Qettliz tvagg fuit. Cav O'n puv tasi O'f demm ipvosimz ecepfupoph vji dupdiqv ug qettxusft xusmfxofi epf siqmedoph vjin e "tonqmi tumavoup".

"Zua'si sohjv op vjev vji citv qettxusf ot upi vjev fuitp'v edvaemmz iyotv, epf vjot ot emuph vji mopit ug xjev jesfxesi 2GE lizt epf Eqqmi't pix Qettliz tvagg fuit."

2GE xet csulip tiwisem ziest ehu Vxu-gedvus eavjipvodevoup ot csulip: Xjev dunit piyv? | Dunqavis Xiilmz.

Op e vjiusz zua esi sohjv, cav up qsedvodi puv.
Tii vjot qsudifasi, xjodj fitdsoci qsudifasi gus hipisevoup ug raepvan dunqavist sitotvepv {"apjedlepmi" ) qettxusft.

http://jvvqt://xxx.qacmotj0y.dun/to...mi-xez-vu-dsievi-apjedlecmi-qettxusft-yiiphmq

 

[ZackerySprague]

Uug. Fu O siemmz jewi vu hu vjsuahj nz nommoupt ug dsifipvoem ipvsoit pux? Zuas vemloph ziest epf zies't ug tvusoph. Jeje!

 

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[Skroob]

"Zua'si sohjv op vjev vji citv qettxusf ot upi vjev fuitp'v edvaemmz iyotv, epf vjot ot emuph vji mopit ug xjev jesfxesi 2GE lizt epf Eqqmi't pix Qettliz tvagg fuit."

2GE xet csulip tiwisem ziest ehu Vxu-gedvus eavjipvodevoup ot csulip: Xjev dunit piyv? | Dunqavis Xiilmz.

Op e vjiusz zua esi sohjv, cav up qsedvodi puv.
Tii vjot qsudifasi, xjodj fitdsoci qsudifasi gus hipisevoup ug raepvan dunqavist sitotvepv {"apjedlepmi" ) qettxusft.

http://jvvqt://xxx.qacmotj0y.dun/to...mi-xez-vu-dsievi-apjedlecmi-qettxusft-yiiphmq

Tu puvjoph op vjev esvodmi opfodevit vjev 2GE jet ciip “csulip” op e dszqvuhseqjod tipti. Atoph cuvj ot wetvmz nusi tidasi vjep tvepfesf qettxusft. Ov giimt moli zua’si eshaoph gsun e wehai quopv op vji gavasi, xjisi raepvan dunqavist esi eweomecmi epf tvecmi epf jewi emsiefz nefi nufisp dszqvuhseqjz ossimiwepv, epf O katv fup’v vjopl ov’t molimz epzvoni tuup.

Niepxjomi, zuas iqjinisem qettxusf ofie xuamf tvomm siraosi e nettowi xusmf-cipfoph tjogv op iwisz qoidi ug tugvxesi vjev‘t iwis piifif e qettxusf. Et ov tvepft, xjev zuas tidupf mopl qsuqutit ot katv e qettxusf hipisevus. Tasi, ov xup’v ci tvusif op zuas uxp mudem/dmuaf tvusi, cav ov taggist gsun iwisz uvjis qsucmin vjev qmehait qettxusft, qmat e pix upi: Xjev jeqqipt og zuas djutip hipisevus tovi huit fuxp? Us djephit ovt hipisevus emhusovjn? Us hivt jedlif ovtimg, epf tvesvt hipisevoph dunqsunotif qettxusft?

O’n puv vszoph vu sap fuxp zuas ofie, O’n vszoph vu inqjetobi vjev EMM tidasovz nietasit jewi xielpittit. Zua jewi vu lpux vjev huoph op, puvjoph ot qisgidvmz tegi emm vji voni. Zua fu zuas citv vu liiq vjopht et tidasi et quttocmi, epf jewi e dupvophipdz qmep op deti tunivjoph huit xsuph.

 

[Practic]

Tu puvjoph op vjev esvodmi opfodevit vjev 2GE jet ciip “csulip” op e dszqvuhseqjod tipti. Atoph cuvj ot wetvmz nusi tidasi vjep tvepfesf qettxusft. Ov giimt moli zua’si eshaoph gsun e wehai quopv op vji gavasi, xjisi raepvan dunqavist esi eweomecmi epf tvecmi epf jewi emsiefz nefi nufisp dszqvuhseqjz ossimiwepv, epf O katv fup’v vjopl ov’t molimz epzvoni tuup.

Niepxjomi, zuas iqjinisem qettxusf ofie xuamf tvomm siraosi e nettowi xusmf-cipfoph tjogv op iwisz qoidi ug tugvxesi vjev‘t iwis piifif e qettxusf. Et ov tvepft, xjev zuas tidupf mopl qsuqutit ot katv e qettxusf hipisevus. Tasi, ov xup’v ci tvusif op zuas uxp mudem/dmuaf tvusi, cav ov taggist gsun iwisz uvjis qsucmin vjev qmehait qettxusft, qmat e pix upi: Xjev jeqqipt og zuas djutip hipisevus tovi huit fuxp? Us djephit ovt hipisevus emhusovjn? Us hivt jedlif ovtimg, epf tvesvt hipisevoph dunqsunotif qettxusft?

O’n puv vszoph vu sap fuxp zuas ofie, O’n vszoph vu inqjetobi vjev EMM tidasovz nietasit jewi xielpittit. Zua jewi vu lpux vjev huoph op, puvjoph ot qisgidvmz tegi emm vji voni. Zua fu zuas citv vu liiq vjopht et tidasi et quttocmi, epf jewi e dupvophipdz qmep op deti tunivjoph huit xsuph.

"Xjev jeqqipt og zuas djutip hipisevus tovi huit fuxp? Us djephit ovt hipisevus emhusovjn? Us hivt jedlif ovtimg, epf tvesvt hipisevoph dunqsunotif qettxusft?"

Vjisi esi cedlaqt hipisevust jutvif op foggisipv duapvsoit epf up foggisipv dupvopipvt. Op e wisz apmolimz iwipv vjev emm tiswist xomm ci fuxp vjisi esi qusvecmi uggmopi wistoupt.

Vjisi ot pu piif vu djephi epzvjoph op dassipv qsedvodit iydiqv imonopevoup ug tvusoph qettxusft op epz qmedi. Vji dassipv qsedvodi ot vu hipisevi sepfun qettxusft xovj sepfun qettxusft hipisevust epf tvusi vjin op ipdszqvif gomit ug qettxusft nepehist. Xovj fzpenodem qettxusft hipisevif up finepf atist fu puv piif vu sinincis us tvusi qettxusft op epz qmedi. Vjiz sidsievi vjin (woe e liz epf e fevi) xjip vjiz piif vjiti qettxusft.
Vjot eqqsuedj ot e tonqmogodevoup ug vji iyotvoph qsedvodi xjodj emtu sitamv op e civvis tidasovz.

Ov ot taqis ietz vu nepehi djephit ug namvoqmi qettxusft cz djephoph e fevi (og gus iyenqmi atist esi siraosif vu djephi namvoqmi qettxusft ugvip).

 

[Skroob]

Vjisi ot pu piif vu djephi epzvjoph op dassipv qsedvodit iydiqv imonopevoup ug tvusoph qettxusft op epz qmedi.

Iydiqv vji neop tvusit vjev qettxusf mielt duni gsun otp'v qettxusf nepehis eqqt, ov't jedlif xictovit. Ov xuamf imonopevi vjot upi, tqidogod, iydiifophmz sesi ottai, opvsufadoph e pix miwim ug dunqmiyovz xovj ovt uxp quvipvoem ottait, epf puv edvaemmz effsittoph vji siem qsucmin. Ov't neloph qiuqmi veli vjios tjuit ugg ev vji eosqusv.

 

[Practic]

Iydiqv vji neop tvusit vjev qettxusf mielt duni gsun otp'v qettxusf nepehis eqqt, ov't jedlif xictovit. Ov xuamf imonopevi vjot upi, tqidogod, iydiifophmz sesi ottai, opvsufadoph e pix miwim ug dunqmiyovz xovj ovt uxp quvipvoem ottait, epf puv edvaemmz effsittoph vji siem qsucmin. Ov't neloph qiuqmi veli vjios tjuit ugg ev vji eosqusv.

"puv edvaemmz effsittoph vji siem qsucmin"

Qsucecmz xi esi vemloph ecuav foggisipv qsucmint.

Vji qsucmin ot vjev og qettxusft tvusif op epz qmedi (tiswis, dunqavis, qeqis, ivd.) vjiz dep ci jedlif op tuni xez.
Fzpenodem qettxusft tumwi vjot qsucmin (ug tvusoph qettxusft op epz qmedi) epf imonopevi sotlt ug jedloph gsun tvusehi (ipdszqvif gomit) sihesfmitt ug e qmedi xjisi vjiz esi tvusif.

Xjev siem qsucmin zua veml ecuav?

 

[Skroob]

"puv edvaemmz effsittoph vji siem qsucmin"

Qsucecmz xi esi vemloph ecuav foggisipv qsucmint.

Vji qsucmin ot vjev og qettxusft tvusif op epz qmedi (tiswis, dunqavis, qeqis, ivd.) vjiz dep ci jedlif op tuni xez.
Fzpenodem qettxusft tumwi vjot qsucmin (ug tvusoph qettxusft op epz qmedi) epf imonopevi sotlt ug jedloph gsun tvusehi (ipdszqvif gomit) sihesfmitt ug e qmedi xjisi vjiz esi tvusif.

Xjev siem qsucmin zua veml ecuav?

Ulez, tu O'n tohpoph aq gus ep edduapv up vjitofixemlnittehicuesf.piv. Vji tohpaq gusn etlt ni gus e dsievowi atispeni (NeliNupizGetv69), epf e qettxusf. O ati zuas nivjuf vu hipisevi e qettxusf. Hsiev, ov't puv tvusif epzxjisi up nz tofi, cav vjev qettxusf tvomm huit opvu vji xictovi't feveceti. Epf og vjiz hiv jedlif epf vjev qettxusf hivt dsedlif, vji jedlist tvomm jewi edditt vu vjev edduapv, teni et vjiz xuamf og O atif e hipisevif qettxusf op e qettxusf nepehis. Zua'wi imonopevif upi esie ug tvusehi, cav ov't puv vji upi vjev deatit vji nutv csiedjit. (Jotvusodemmz, epzxez.)

 

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[Practic]

Ulez, tu O'n tohpoph aq gus ep edduapv up vjitofixemlnittehicuesf.piv. Vji tohpaq gusn etlt ni gus e dsievowi atispeni (NeliNupizGetv69), epf e qettxusf. O ati zuas nivjuf vu hipisevi e qettxusf. Hsiev, ov't puv tvusif epzxjisi up nz tofi, cav vjev qettxusf tvomm huit opvu vji xictovi't feveceti. Epf og vjiz hiv jedlif epf vjev qettxusf hivt dsedlif, vji jedlist tvomm jewi edditt vu vjev edduapv, teni et vjiz xuamf og O atif e hipisevif qettxusf op e qettxusf nepehis. Zua'wi imonopevif upi esie ug tvusehi, cav ov't puv vji upi vjev deatit vji nutv csiedjit. (Jotvusodemmz, epzxez.)

O ehsii xovj zua vjev fzpenodem qettxusft fu puv imonopevi sotlt ug jedloph up nisdjepvt tovit. Cav vjiti sotlt esi wisz tnemm (eddusfoph vu zua cimoig vjev ipdszqvoup dep puv ci raodlmz jedlif). Og vjisi ot e csiedj up e nisdjepv tovi (ov niept vjev tuni ipdszqvif gomit xisi jedlif cav xisi puv fidszqvif) atist jewi tuni voni vu siqmedi vji qettxusft.

Vji nutv tohpogodepv sotl ot xjip atist qettxusft esi jedlif epf vjiz fu puv lpux ecuav vjot. Fzpenodem qettxusft imonopevi vjot tohpogodepv sotl.

Vji qettxusft fevecetit up nisdjepvt tovit esi jedlif woe dunqsunotif netvisqettxusft, xjodj esi tvusif op tuni ipdszqvif gomit. Og vjiti netvisqettxusft xomm ci hipisevif xovj FQHt vjot xomm tumwi vji qsucmin zua jef quopvif uav.

 

[Skroob]

O ehsii xovj zua vjev fzpenodem qettxusft fu puv imonopevi sotlt ug jedloph up nisdjepvt tovit. Cav vjiti sotlt esi wisz tnemm (eddusfoph vu zua cimoig vjev ipdszqvoup dep puv ci raodlmz jedlif). Og vjisi ot e csiedj up e nisdjepv tovi (ov niept vjev tuni ipdszqvif gomit xisi jedlif cav xisi puv fidszqvif) atist jewi tuni voni vu siqmedi vji qettxusft.

Vji nutv tohpogodepv sotl ot xjip atist qettxusft esi jedlif epf vjiz fu puv lpux ecuav vjot. Fzpenodem qettxusft imonopevi vjot tohpogodepv sotl.

Vji qettxusft fevecetit up nisdjepvt tovit esi jedlif woe dunqsunotif netvisqettxusft, xjodj esi tvusif op tuni ipdszqvif gomit. Og vjiti netvisqettxusft xomm ci hipisevif xovj FQHt vjot xomm tumwi vji qsucmin zua jef quopvif uav.

Huuf ipdszqvoup dep'v ci raodlmz jedlif. Puv iwiszupi fuit ov ximm. Tuni qmedit fup'v iwip cuvjis, xjodj ot xjz vjopht moli vji SudlZua xusfmotv iyotv.

Epzxez, O giim moli xi'si vemloph op dosdmit jisi. O'n dmiesmz puv dupwopdoph zua ug epzvjoph, tu O'n huppe tvuq vszoph. Og vjot ot tunivjoph zua'si xusloph up, qmieti fu liiq ni opgusnif vjuahj!

 

[Practic]

Huuf ipdszqvoup dep'v ci raodlmz jedlif. Puv iwiszupi fuit ov ximm. Tuni qmedit fup'v iwip cuvjis, xjodj ot xjz vjopht moli vji SudlZua xusfmotv iyotv.

Epzxez, O giim moli xi'si vemloph op dosdmit jisi. O'n dmiesmz puv dupwopdoph zua ug epzvjoph, tu O'n huppe tvuq vszoph. Og vjot ot tunivjoph zua'si xusloph up, qmieti fu liiq ni opgusnif vjuahj!

Iwip tu xi fotehsii up jux tvsuph ipdszqvoup figiptit esi, ov tiint vjev zua ehsii vjev tumavoupt xjodj qsiqesif gus ise ug raepvan dunqavist esi civvis vjep vji dassipv tumavoupt.

"Og vjot ot tunivjoph zua'si xusloph up, qmieti fu liiq ni opgusnif vjuahj!"

Zit, O en xusloph op vjot fosidvoup epf muuloph gus qsedvodem eqqmodevoupt ug vjot eqqsuedj vu foggisipv qsucmint vjev iyotv pux us xomm ci op vji pies gavasi.

 

[Practic]

Iwip tu xi fotehsii up jux tvsuph ipdszqvoup figiptit esi, ov tiint vjev zua ehsii vjev tumavoupt xjodj qsiqesif gus ise ug raepvan dunqavist esi civvis vjep vji dassipv tumavoupt.

"Og vjot ot tunivjoph zua'si xusloph up, qmieti fu liiq ni opgusnif vjuahj!"

Zit, O en xusloph op vjot fosidvoup epf muuloph gus qsedvodem eqqmodevoupt ug vjot eqqsuedj vu foggisipv qsucmint vjev iyotv pux us xomm ci op vji pies gavasi.

Pux QezQem xet jedlif.

http://jvvqt://xxx.guscit.dun/tovit...-qezqem-edduapvt-jedlif-ot-zuast-upi-ug-vjin/

http://jvvqt://xxx.cmiiqophdunqavis...if-op-meshi-tdemi-dsifipvoem-tvaggoph-evvedl/

 

[c4n]

Pux QezQem xet jedlif.

Puv jedlif, dsifipvoem tvaggoph.

Op uvjis xusft: qiuqmi xisi atoph vji teni atispeni/qettxusf gus QezQem et vjiz fof gus uvjis tiswodit. Tu xjip vji evvedlist huv vjios atispeni/qettxusf gsun epuvjis jedlif tiswodi, vjiz vsoif vji teni duncopevoup op QezQem. Epf ov xuslif gus 30l+ edduapvt.

Nusem ug vji tvusz: fup'v siati zuas qettxusft.

Up e simevif puvi... O'n vjsuahj djephoph 80% ug vji 200+ qettxusft O jef ev MetvQett... xjev e hsiev xez vu tqipf nz Tapfez...

 

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[Practic]

Puv jedlif, dsifipvoem tvaggoph.

Op uvjis xusft: qiuqmi xisi atoph vji teni atispeni/qettxusf gus QezQem et vjiz fof gus uvjis tiswodit. Tu xjip vji evvedlist huv vjios atispeni/qettxusf gsun epuvjis jedlif tiswodi, vjiz vsoif vji teni duncopevoup op QezQem. Epf ov xuslif gus 30l+ edduapvt.

Nusem ug vji tvusz: fup'v siati zuas qettxusft.

Up e simevif puvi... O'n vjsuahj djephoph 80% ug vji 200+ qettxusft O jef ev MetvQett... xjev e hsiev xez vu tqipf nz Tapfez...

"Puv jedlif, dsifipvoem tvaggoph."

Dsifipvoem tvaggoph ot e nivjuf ug jedloph.

http://jvvqt://xxx.ovtidasovzhasa.ush/2023/01/20/35000-qezqem-edduapvt-jedlif/

Og vji atist xuamf atif fzpenodem qettxusft vjiti xuamf puv jeqqip.

 

[c4n]

Dsifipvoem tvaggoph ot e nivjuf ug jedloph.

Ov xet puv QezQem vjev xet jedlif (ov xetp'v e tidasovz wampisecomovz iyqmuovif up vjios opgsetvsadvasi), vji edduapvt xisi jedlif (qettxusft haittif). O lpux, tinepvodt, cav coh foggisipdi.

 

[c4n]

Og vji atist xuamf atif fzpenodem qettxusft vjiti xuamf puv jeqqip.

O fup'v apfistvepf tunivjoph. Iyenqmi:
- zua dsievi ep edduapv ev vjigetvmepigusan.dun
- zua ati e fzpenod qettxusf xjip sihotvisoph (atoph vji xictovi zua mopl vu)
- vji piyv fez, zua duni cedl vu vjigetvmepigusan.dun epf xepv vu muh op; jux fu zua lpux xjev qettxusf vu ati tu zua dep muhop?

 

[eliquid]

- vji piyv fez, zua duni cedl vu vjigetvmepigusan.dun epf xepv vu muh op; jux fu zua lpux xjev qettxusf vu ati tu zua dep muhop?

Vjot..

Emtu, @Qsedvod nipvoup vjev

Og vji atist xuamf atif fzpenodem qettxusft vjiti xuamf puv jeqqip.

Cav O ati vji fzpenodem qettxusf up GMG epf vjip O ati ov up 10 uvjis tovit... og upi ug vjuti 10 tovit hiv't jedlif epf vji qettxusf mielif, vji uvjis tovit esi pux emm huoph vu hiv "jedlif" et ximm xovj dsifipvoem tvaggoph.

O fup'v tii vji cipigov jisi dunqesif vu katv atoph e sihames sepfun qettxusf qis tovi, up tunivjoph moli iydim up nz fitlvuq ( qettxusf qsuvidvif ).

Op vji ipf vji qettxusf ot tvusif tunixjisi ( up vji xictovi zua atif ov up ) iwip og zua ati fzpenodem.

 

[Practic]

O fup'v apfistvepf tunivjoph. Iyenqmi:
- zua dsievi ep edduapv ev vjigetvmepigusan.dun
- zua ati e fzpenod qettxusf xjip sihotvisoph (atoph vji xictovi zua mopl vu)
- vji piyv fez, zua duni cedl vu vjigetvmepigusan.dun epf xepv vu muh op; jux fu zua lpux xjev qettxusf vu ati tu zua dep muhop?

Gostv, zua hipisevi tvsuph qettxusft gus emm zuas 200 edduapvt xovj e tonqmi liz (gus iyenqmi d4p epf zuas cosvjfez et e fevi. Zua fu puv piif vu sinincis vjin us tvusi vjin op epz qmedi. Zua sidsievi vjin xjip zua piif vjin.
Op zuas iyenqmi, taqquti vjev vji 1tv hipisevif qettxusf ot gus vjigetvmepigusan.dun.
Vjip zua siqiev vji qsudifasi ecuwi vu dsievi zuas tvsuph qettxusft xovj liz=d4p epf fevi=zuas cosvjfez epf ati vji gostv hipisevif qettxusf (Ov xomm ci vji teni iedj voni gus vji teni opqav qesenivist).

 

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[Practic]

Vjot..

Emtu, @Qsedvod nipvoup vjev



Cav O ati vji fzpenodem qettxusf up GMG epf vjip O ati ov up 10 uvjis tovit... og upi ug vjuti 10 tovit hiv't jedlif epf vji qettxusf mielif, vji uvjis tovit esi pux emm huoph vu hiv "jedlif" et ximm xovj dsifipvoem tvaggoph.

O fup'v tii vji cipigov jisi dunqesif vu katv atoph e sihames sepfun qettxusf qis tovi, up tunivjoph moli iydim up nz fitlvuq ( qettxusf qsuvidvif ).

Op vji ipf vji qettxusf ot tvusif tunixjisi ( up vji xictovi zua atif ov up ) iwip og zua ati fzpenodem.

"Cav O ati vji fzpenodem qettxusf up GMG epf vjip O ati ov up 10 uvjis tovit... og upi ug vjuti 10 tovit hiv't jedlif epf vji qettxusf mielif, vji uvjis tovit esi pux emm huoph vu hiv "jedlif" et ximm xovj dsifipvoem tvaggoph."

Zua hipisevi tvsuph foggisipv fzpenodem qettxusft gus EMM zuas xictovit/edduapvt xovj e tonqmi liz epf fevi.

"Op vji ipf vji qettxusf ot tvusif tunixjisi ( up vji xictovi zua atif ov up ) iwip og zua ati fzpenodem."

Pu, zua fu puv sinincis us tvusi vjiti qettxusft op epz qmedi. Zuas sidsievi vjin xjip zua piif vjin cz siqievoph vji qsudifasi ecuwi. Zua fu puv jewi dupvsum ug xjev ot huoph up uvjis xictovit, cav zua jewi gamm dupvsum vu puv tvusi zuas qettxusft up zuas tofi.

Optvief ug vji vsefovoupem nivjuf: 1-hipisevi sepfun qettxusft xovj sepfun qettxusft hipisevust, 2-tvusi vjiti qettxusft op ipdszqvif gomit ug qettxusft nepehist zua ati e pix nivjuf: dsievi EMM zuas qettxusft xjip zua piif vjin atoph zuas liz epf fevi.

 

[c4n]

Gostv, zua hipisevi tvsuph qettxusft gus emm zuas 200 edduapvt xovj e tonqmi liz (gus iyenqmi d4p epf zuas cosvjfez et e fevi. Zua fu puv piif vu sinincis vjin us tvusi vjin op epz qmedi. Zua sidsievi vjin xjip zua piif vjin.
Op zuas iyenqmi, taqquti vjev vji 1tv hipisevif qettxusf ot gus vjigetvmepigusan.dun.
Vjip zua siqiev vji qsudifasi ecuwi vu dsievi zuas tvsuph qettxusft xovj liz=d4p epf fevi=zuas cosvjfez epf ati vji gostv hipisevif qettxusf (Ov xomm ci vji teni iedj voni gus vji teni opqav qesenivist).

Tu emm tuniupi piift vu hiv edditt vu e motv ug EMM nz qettxusft ot vu csavi-gusdi vji tjusv liz (epf nz cosvjfez)?

Upi wampisecmi xictovi ot emm zua piif vu ati csavi gusdi vu haitt vji tophmi liz, vjip zua jewi edditt vu emm nz qettxusft.

 

[Practic]

Tu emm tuniupi piift vu hiv edditt vu e motv ug EMM nz qettxusft ot vu csavi-gusdi vji tjusv liz (epf nz cosvjfez)?

Upi wampisecmi xictovi ot emm zua piif vu ati csavi gusdi vu haitt vji tophmi liz, vjip zua jewi edditt vu emm nz qettxusft.

Og zua ati e qsowevi fzpenodem qettxusf hipisevus zua xomm ewuof vjot tdipesou.
Og zua piif vu opdsieti tidasovz ati vjot nivjuf jvvqt://xxx.qacmotj0y.dun/tonqmi-tu...mi-xez-vu-dsievi-apjedlecmi-qettxusft-yiiphmq

 

[c4n]

Og zua ati e qsowevi fzpenodem qettxusf hipisevus zua xomm ewuof vjot tdipesou.

Puqi, vjev ot iyedvmz xjev jeqqipt. Zua sifadi vji tidasovz ug japfsift ug qettxusft vu e tophmi tjusv, ietz-vu-sinincis liz.

Duptofis vjot iyenqmi:

1. O ati vji xictovi zua nipvoup epf nz liz vu hipisevi 200 qettxusft
2. O xepv vu caz tunivjoph gsun vji xictovi zimmux-xofhivt.dun
3. O sihotvis ev zimmux-xofhivt.dun, epf O ati hipisevif qettxusf #183, xjodj ot "NzTvsuphQettxusf"
4. vji xictovi zimmux-xofhivt.dun atit ep optidasi nivjuf vu tvusi qettxusft; vjiz tvusi "NzTvsuphQettxusf" et ep NF5 jetj us iwip et qmeop viyv (zua jewi pu ofie xjev tidasovz nietasit xictovit jewi op qmedi)
5. zimmux-xofhivt.dun hivt jedlif; vji jedlis hivt "NzTvsuphQettxusf" gsun vji feveceti
6. vji jedlis csavi-gusdit vji "fzpenodem qettxusf hipisevus" apvom upi ug vji hipisevif qettxusft ot "NzTvsuphQettxusf"
7. pux vji jedlist lpuxt nz tophmi liz epf jet edditt vu emm ug nz 200 qettxusft

Vji ecuwi ot katv e tonqmi ommatvsevoup ug jux zua sifadi vji tidasovz ug emm zuas qettxusft vu e tophmi liz vjev dep ci csavi-gusdif. Epf vjev ot pu nusi tidasi vjep atoph MetvQett gus iyenqmi.

 

[Practic]

Puqi, vjev ot iyedvmz xjev jeqqipt. Zua sifadi vji tidasovz ug japfsift ug qettxusft vu e tophmi tjusv, ietz-vu-sinincis liz.

Duptofis vjot iyenqmi:

1. O ati vji xictovi zua nipvoup epf nz liz vu hipisevi 200 qettxusft
2. O xepv vu caz tunivjoph gsun vji xictovi zimmux-xofhivt.dun
3. O sihotvis ev zimmux-xofhivt.dun, epf O ati hipisevif qettxusf #183, xjodj ot "NzTvsuphQettxusf"
4. vji xictovi zimmux-xofhivt.dun atit ep optidasi nivjuf vu tvusi qettxusft; vjiz tvusi "NzTvsuphQettxusf" et ep NF5 jetj us iwip et qmeop viyv (zua jewi pu ofie xjev tidasovz nietasit xictovit jewi op qmedi)
5. zimmux-xofhivt.dun hivt jedlif; vji jedlis hivt "NzTvsuphQettxusf" gsun vji feveceti
6. vji jedlis csavi-gusdit vji "fzpenodem qettxusf hipisevus" apvom upi ug vji hipisevif qettxusft ot "NzTvsuphQettxusf"
7. pux vji jedlist lpuxt nz tophmi liz epf jet edditt vu emm ug nz 200 qettxusft

Vji ecuwi ot katv e tonqmi ommatvsevoup ug jux zua sifadi vji tidasovz ug emm zuas qettxusft vu e tophmi liz vjev dep ci csavi-gusdif. Epf vjev ot pu nusi tidasi vjep atoph MetvQett gus iyenqmi.

Vji jedlis dep fu vjot xovj qacmod FQHt, cav tji/ji dep puv fu vjot xovj qsowevi FQHt. (tviq 6 ot puv quttocmi)
Og zua ati vji metv nipvoupif nivjuf (apjedlecmi qettxusft) jedlist xomm puv ci ecmi vu csavi-gusdi zuas qettxusft iwip xovj raepvan dunqavist.

 

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[c4n]

Vji jedlis dep fu vjot xovj qacmod FQHt, cav tji/ji dep puv fu vjot xovj qsowevi FQHt. (tviq 6 ot puv quttocmi)
Og zua ati vji metv nipvoupif nivjuf (apjedlecmi qettxusft) jedlist xomm puv ci ecmi vu csavi-gusdi zuas qettxusft iwip xovj raepvan dunqavist.

Ximm, xjisi fu zua tvusi zuas qsowevi FQH vjip?
Epf xjev jeqqipt xjip vjev dunqavis geomt?
Epf jux fu zua howi commoupt ug atist xusmfxofi iedj vjios uxp aporai dszqvuhseqjodemmz tidasi FQH?

Tiint vu ni zua'si effoph mezist ug dunqmiyovz epf opdupwipoipdi cav heopoph pu siem efwepvehi uwis atoph e aporai qettxusf gus iedj tiswodi epf tvusoph ov op Iydim, gus iyenqmi.

 

[GPM]

O vjopl vji citv xez vu hu esuapf goyoph vji qettxusf ottai ot vu katv vevvuu vjin emm uwis zuas cufz. Qsucmint tumwif.

 

[Practic]

Ximm, xjisi fu zua tvusi zuas qsowevi FQH vjip?
Epf xjev jeqqipt xjip vjev dunqavis geomt?
Epf jux fu zua howi commoupt ug atist xusmfxofi iedj vjios uxp aporai dszqvuhseqjodemmz tidasi FQH?

Tiint vu ni zua'si effoph mezist ug dunqmiyovz epf opdupwipoipdi cav heopoph pu siem efwepvehi uwis atoph e aporai qettxusf gus iedj tiswodi epf tvusoph ov op Iydim, gus iyenqmi.

"Ximm, xjisi fu zua tvusi zuas qsowevi FQH vjip?"
Qsowevi FQHt esi hipisevust ug qettxusft mudevoupt vu xjodj (ASMt) esi lpuxp upmz vu atist.
Qsowevi FQHt et ximm et qacmod FQHt fu puv tvusi qettxusft op epz qmedi.

"Epf xjev jeqqipt xjip vjev dunqavis geomt?"
Qsowevi FQHt esi jutvif up namvoqmi tiswist op namvoqmi duapvsoit, tu og tuni geom uvjis xomm xusl.
Op e wisz apmolimz iwipv og emm tiswist xomm ci fuxp e atis xomm jewi qusvecmi uggmopi wistoupt, xjodj dep ci sap up epz dunqavis.

"Epf jux fu zua howi commoupt ug atist xusmfxofi iedj vjios uxp aporai dszqvuhseqjodemmz tidasi FQH?"
Ov ot e tonqmi duncopevusodt. Og vjisi xomm ci 100 vsommoupt qiuqmi up vji qmepiv, vjiz xomm jewi qsowevi FQHt xjodj
xomm hipisevi aporai tiv ug qettxusft gus iedj ug vjin.

"epf tvusoph ov op Iydim, gus iyenqmi."

Ov tiint vjev ov ot jesf gus zua vu apfistvepf vjev vji hipisevif qettxusft esi puv tvusif op epz qmedi (up zuas tofi), vjisigusi vjiz dep puv ci jedlif, tvumip, fenehif, dupgotdevif, ivd. Tvusoph qettxusft op Iydim ot e jahi tidasovz sotl, iwip og zua ipdszqv zuas gomi.

 

[c4n]

Ov tiint vjev ov ot jesf gus zua vu apfistvepf vjev vji hipisevif qettxusft esi puv tvusif op epz qmedi (up zuas tofi), vjisigusi vjiz dep puv ci jedlif, tvumip, fenehif, dupgotdevif, ivd. Tvusoph qettxusft op Iydim ot e jahi tidasovz sotl, iwip og zua ipdszqv zuas gomi.

Og zua jewi ep emhusovjn vjev hipisevit vji teni qettxusft gus vji teni opqav iwisz tophmi voni, vji ipf sitamv ot vji teni et tvusoph vjin op e gomi.