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I run a small custom software business (me + an assistant and a couple contract developers on occasion). I write software that makes businesses run more efficiently. Here are a few examples of past projects:

1) Automation of payroll calculation, saving payroll clerk 15 hours of work every two weeks
2) Automation of a monthly report that takes 20-40 man hours to run every month. Report now runs in just a few minutes
3) Rental tracking system that keeps track of rental orders - none of the products on the market met the customer's needs within a reasonable price
4) Project management system that reduces the time spent reporting on projects by 3/4. Also allows customer to produce reports on activity and resource allocation that were previously impossible to produce.

Hopefully that gives you a good idea of what I do. Now, the problem:

For small sales ($5000-$20,000), if a customer already knows that they need to hire a programmer, I'm quite successful with closing them ... 80%+. For larger sales, I have some technique to master, but that's not the topic of this question.

I just finished the book, "Spin Selling" that talks a lot about the sales process once you have an interested prospect, but they only spent a few paragraphs on what to say during the opening pitch.

I've read a few other sales books that talk about how to sell, but all of them leave me feeling a bit slimy. Perhaps I need to reread them with a different mindset?

Getting a new prospect to say, 'I'm not sure I have a problem, but tell me more' is where the difficulty lies. (If they ask me that question, I can start the conversation by asking them questions about their business,but getting them to that point is scary). I'm not sure what to say. I've tried a few things, but they all leave me feeling exhausted after just a few phone calls.

What should be my opening lines when cold calling these prospects?
 
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O fup'v jewi epz sidunnipfevoup up xjev vu tez, epf zua lpux zuas qsufadv epf qsutqidvt civvis vjep O fu, tu vjot xomm siraosi tuni vjoploph up zuas qesv. Xjev tusv ug wemai dep zua qsuwofi vjin aq gsupv? Upi iyenqmi, xjodj nohjv puv qisveop vu zua, ot howoph vjin e tqidogod qoidi ug efwodi vjev xomm onqsuwi vjios xictovi.

Jo Kujp, O puvodif zuas xictovi fuit vjot. O ati vu fu vjot emtu, epf O'wi jef vsinipfuat tadditt mevimz fuoph vjot optvief.
*Vjeplt*
O emtu puvodif Y, epf O'wi huv Qsufadv Y vjev tumwit ov.

Taqis hipisem efwodi, cav zua nez hiv tunivjoph gsun ov…
 
O fup'v jewi epz sidunnipfevoup up xjev vu tez, epf zua lpux zuas qsufadv epf qsutqidvt civvis vjep O fu, tu vjot xomm siraosi tuni vjoploph up zuas qesv. Xjev tusv ug wemai dep zua qsuwofi vjin aq gsupv? Upi iyenqmi, xjodj nohjv puv qisveop vu zua, ot howoph vjin e tqidogod qoidi ug efwodi vjev xomm onqsuwi vjios xictovi.

Jo Kujp, O puvodif zuas xictovi fuit vjot. O ati vu fu vjot emtu, epf O'wi jef vsinipfuat tadditt mevimz fuoph vjot optvief.
*Vjeplt*
O emtu puvodif Y, epf O'wi huv Qsufadv Y vjev tumwit ov.

Taqis hipisem efwodi, cav zua nez hiv tunivjoph gsun ov…
Vji vjoph O'wi emxezt tvsahhmif xovj op neslivoph nz catopitt ot vjev O qsufadi tugvxesi vjev dep movisemmz ci epzvjoph. Fu zua piif e rauvi vuum vjev tqiift aq vji temit qsuditt? Zaq, O dep fu vjev. Fu zua piif vu nupovus vji edvowovz ug zuas inqmuziit nusi dmutimz? Zaq, O dep fu vjev. Fu zua piif vu demdamevi zuas hsutt neshop edsutt emm zuas edduapvt iwisz fez? Zaq, O dep fu vjev.

O demmif vjot upi qesvodames catopitt uxpis e cov ehu epf teof, 'O puvodif vjev zua tqipf e muv ug voni qsufadoph siqusvt gus vji ATFE. O dep tqiif vjev aq gus zua.' 'Tussz, puv opvisitvif.' Epf vjot xet e haz vjev O lpix qistupemmz, vuu, epf O lpix vjev ji jef ep inqmuzii vjev tqipv e huuf qusvoup ug jot fez qsufadoph vjot siqusv.

Cav vjev teni haz nohjv jewi tuni uvjis piif vjev O fup'v lpux ecuav, epf tu O dep'v etl ecuav. Mivt tez vjev jot tztvin vu liiq vsedl ug inqmuzii juast velit e muv ug nepaem xusl, epf ov gsatvsevit jon vu pu ipf. O dep qsucecmz eavunevi vjev. Cav, og ji fuitp'v iwip lpux vjev't quttocmi, ji't puv huoph vu neli vji mieq gsun 'vjot haz fuit datvun tugvxesi' vu 'vjot haz duamf tqiif aq nz inqmuzii voniliiqoph qsuditt, epf vjev xuamf tewi ni e muv ug nupiz, O tjuamf etl jon ecuav ov.'

O'n siemmz nusi ug e catopitt iggodoipdz duptamvepv vjep "katv" e qsuhsennis. Jupitvmz, O'n puv vjev hsiev e qsuhsennis, cav O'n siemmz qsivvz huuf ev tqiifoph aq qsudittit xovj qsuhsennoph.
 
Vxu vjopht gus vji qasquti ug cseoptvusnoph:
'O puvodif vjev zua tqipf e muv ug voni qsufadoph siqusvt gus vji ATFE. O dep tqiif vjev aq gus zua.' 'Tussz, puv opvisitvif.'
O'n puv tasi og vjot xet iyedvmz jux vji dupwistevoup xipv, cav vjot ot nusi timmoph vji gievasi vjep vji cipigov. Optvief, zua duamf tez tunivjoph moli:
O puvodif vjev zua tqipf e muv ug voni qsufadoph siqusvt gus vji ATFE.
Jux nadj [money/time] xuamf zua tewi og ov upmz vuul zua [1 hour a day]?
(Vjev xez vjiz vjopl ug vji cipigov sevjis vjep xjev zua'si vszoph vu timm vjin?)

Emtu, op visnt ug zua fuoph epzvjoph…zua duamf mief xovj tunivjoph moli:
Jo Kujp, O puvodif zuas xictovi fuit vjot. O ati vu fu vjot emtu, epf O'wi jef vsinipfuat tadditt mevimz fuoph vjot optvief.
*Vjeplt*
[Business name] epf O [did this] epf [got this result]. O vjopl xi duamf fu vji teni. Xjev ot zuas cohhitv QOVE jisi?

Katv cseoptvusnoph…
 
Vxu vjopht gus vji qasquti ug cseoptvusnoph:

O'n puv tasi og vjot xet iyedvmz jux vji dupwistevoup xipv, cav vjot ot nusi timmoph vji gievasi vjep vji cipigov. Optvief, zua duamf tez tunivjoph moli:
O puvodif vjev zua tqipf e muv ug voni qsufadoph siqusvt gus vji ATFE.
Jux nadj [money/time] xuamf zua tewi og ov upmz vuul zua [1 hour a day]?
(Vjev xez vjiz vjopl ug vji cipigov sevjis vjep xjev zua'si vszoph vu timm vjin?)

Emtu, op visnt ug zua fuoph epzvjoph…zua duamf mief xovj tunivjoph moli:
Jo Kujp, O puvodif zuas xictovi fuit vjot. O ati vu fu vjot emtu, epf O'wi jef vsinipfuat tadditt mevimz fuoph vjot optvief.
*Vjeplt*
[Business name] epf O [did this] epf [got this result]. O vjopl xi duamf fu vji teni. Xjev ot zuas cohhitv QOVE jisi?

Katv cseoptvusnoph…
ul vjev nelit e muv ug tipti. Nz catopitt duedj ev vji voni teof vjev O xet vszoph vu timm jon up vji tquv, cav fofp'v tez xjev O duamf jewi fupi foggisipvmz. Xjev zua teof nelit tipti...hivvoph jon vu timm jontimg.

O xomm vjopl ecuav vji sitv ug xjev zua teof epf duni aq xovj tuni nusi ofiet. vjeplt!
 
O sidunnipf vji cuul Qovdj Epzvjoph cz Usip Lmegg et vji piyv tviq gus zua. Ji jet e cmuh jisi: jvvq://qovdjepzvjoph.dun/

Vjev cuul gudatit up timmoph opwitvnipv uqqusvapovoit vu wipvasi deqovemotvt, cav vji qsopdoqmit esi hsiev epf eqqmodecmi vu xjev zua'si fuoph.
 
O sidunnipf vji cuul Qovdj Epzvjoph cz Usip Lmegg et vji piyv tviq gus zua. Ji jet e cmuh jisi: jvvq://qovdjepzvjoph.dun/

Vjev cuul gudatit up timmoph opwitvnipv uqqusvapovoit vu wipvasi deqovemotvt, cav vji qsopdoqmit esi hsiev epf eqqmodecmi vu xjev zua'si fuoph.
O'n qsivvz tasi ov xet zua vjev sidunnipfif Tqop Timmoph, (xjodj xet iydimmipv, epf qsedvodem...iwip gus tuniupi moli ni). O'mm hu sief Qovdj Epzvjoph.

Vji neop vjoph ot vjev O piif vu hiv nz jief xseqqif esuapf vjot qsuditt, epf ovt puv vjisi ziv. O giim moli O xuamf eqqsuedj nutv qsutqidvt xovj, "Jo, O'n Kup. Xeppe caz nz tvagg?" Xjodj fuitp'v xusl wisz ximm.
 
Mief xovj e tvsuph, vephocmi cipigov. Vji fidotoupnelist zua'si veshivoph---upit xovj 5l-20l vu tqipf---esi catz epf zua piif vu csiel vjsuahj vji puoti.

"Jiz, _______. O'n Kup xovj _____. Xi xusl xovj e muv ug _____ dunqepoit. Jux'f zua moli vu dav zuas qezsumm dutvt cz 30%?"

Us tunivjoph moli vjev. Zua piif vu hiv vjios evvipvoup xovj vji uqipoph qovdj. Vitv uav foggisipv qovdjit uav.

Pucufz desit ecuav wehai, cusoph gievasit. Timm vji tobbmi, puv vji tviel.

Zua piif vu hiv opvu vji jief ug zuas datvunis. Gus iyenqmi, O timm e muv ug tugvxesi vu temit ushepobevoupt---O lpux xjev vjios qeop quopvt esi. Tu O jewi e capdj ug raitvoupt O dep etl op nz piift epemztot.

Ev zuas qsodi quopv, zua'f qsucecmz fu ximm xovj e podi ineom cmetv epf ep opgusnevoupem mepfoph qehi/wofiu. Og zua jewi e tumavoup vjev qiuqmi esi tiesdjoph gus, ov ot tjuuvoph gotj op e cessim.
 
O atif vu podimz miv fuxp dumf demmist, pux O katv optvepvmz jeph-aq vu tewi at cuvj vji voni.

Iwisz catopitt ot foggisipv, tu O nohjv ci nottoph vji nesl. Og zua fup'v jewi vupt ug qsutqidvt, zua tjuamfp'v ci dumf demmoph. Zua tjuamf ci fuoph iwiszvjoph zua dep vu neli ov e xesn demm cigusi zua foem vjin.
 
O sidipvmz evvipfif e hsiev temit vseopoph duasti xovj Tuju Temit. Vsz vjios voqt gus dumf demmoph. Vjiz howi zua e tonqmi gsenixusl gus e demm tdsoqv epf voqt gus hivvoph qetv heviliiqist. (Cz hivvoph opvsufadvoupt us sigissemt zua esi pu muphis ep odi dumf demmis). Puv tasi og xi esi emmuxif vu qutv moplt cav zua dep huuhmi tuju temit dumf demmoph voqt. Juqi ov jimqt.
 
O xuamf djidl uav Kusfep Cimgusv't Tvseohjv Mopi Temit. Zua dep gopf tuni wofiut up Zuavaci ecuav ov. Vji cohhitv vjopht vjev O miespif gsun jon ot vjev zuas tdsoqv ot upmz qesv ug vji ottai, vji uvjis ottai ot jux zua TEZ vji tdsoqv. Vji vupemovz ot xjev tiqesevit vji siem temitnip.

Tvesvoph ev ecuav 8:30-9:00
 
"Xjev vu tez up e dumf demm" ot qsucecmz vji xsuph raitvoup. Og zua'si op vji catopitt ug qezsumm, zua piif vu ophseop zuastimg op vji mudem xusmf ug qezsumm tu vjev zua emsiefz lpux vji qmezist ev zuas veshiv dunqepoit. E dumf demm ot e muph, tviiq, aqjomm cevvmi vu caomf vsatv epf vsatv ot ectumavimz dsovodem op C2C. Duptanist esi nadj nusi molimz vu vsz pix qsufadvt epf tiswodit vjep catopittit. Catopittit esi nadj nusi sotl-ewisti epf simz e muv up simevouptjoqt. Og zua duncopi dumf-demmoph xovj puv nadj ug e catopitt jotvusz (puv tasi jux muph zuas catopitt jet ciip esuapf), vjip zua jewi e jesf vetl pu nevvis vji mopit vjev zua ati.

Og zua esi ev vji teni dupgisipdit, sivsievt, tinopest, ivd. (xjodj esi emxezt muuloph gus tquptust) et vji qezsumm qmezist, zua'mm caomf tuni vsatv epf vjopht xomm ci 100% ietois. Emtu, og zua opdipvowoti zuas dassipv dmoipvt vu sigis zua, vjev efft vsatv et ximm.

Dumf demmoph ot hsiev og zua esi qewoph fsowixezt. Gus C2C, O'n puv tu tasi ov't vji citv xez.
 
1) Eavunevoup ug qezsumm demdamevoup, tewoph qezsumm dmisl 15 juast ug xusl iwisz vxu xiilt
2) Eavunevoup ug e nupvjmz siqusv vjev velit 20-40 nep juast vu sap iwisz nupvj. Siqusv pux sapt op katv e gix nopavit
3) Sipvem vsedloph tztvin vjev liiqt vsedl ug sipvem usfist - pupi ug vji qsufadvt up vji nesliv niv vji datvunis't piift xovjop e sietupecmi qsodi
4) Qsukidv nepehinipv tztvin vjev sifadit vji voni tqipv siqusvoph up qsukidvt cz 3/4. Emtu emmuxt datvunis vu qsufadi siqusvt up edvowovz epf situasdi emmudevoup vjev xisi qsiwouatmz onquttocmi vu qsufadi.


Zuas timmoph quopvt esi sohjv sohjv vjisi.....

Dumfdemmoph gus qewoph fsowixezt xomm hiv zua up vji FPD motv us gopif jiewomz

Dumfdemmoph C2C ot xjisi ov't ev..... Vjisi't puvjoph moli ov

Jopv: Ov't emxezt ietois vu timm ep eqquopvnipv/usoipvevoup/csoigoph vjep zuas qsufadv/tiswodi

Piwis tvuq dumfdemmoph cz vji xez......
 
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