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Yes, you can't make my life decisions for me. But advice/insight is always helpful and appreciated.

My end goal has always been financial freedom through entrepreneurship. I just spent the past three years involved in a variety of "no college required" career paths. These are widely labeled as "Internet marketing" and include: client social media marketing, dropshipping, SEO, designing/importing custom products from China in bulk, etc.

It all sounded great at the time. I could work from anywhere, not need to go to college, not have a boss, etc. Who wouldn't want this?

But after actually doing internet marketing, I generally think that pursuing it was a mistake. Recently, I've tried out programming and actually like it and all its possibilities. I am now looking to transition into programming (through a community college to state university route, for the sake of job security while working on entrepreneurial ventures).

Programming seems better than internet marketing (IM) because:
  • Software development is guaranteed consistent income anywhere in the US. Great cushion for working on entrepreneurial side projects. Versus with IM, it's either feast of famine-- extremely unpredictable (i.e. I was making several grand per month from Instagram for a few months, but then Instagram changed their algorithm and all that income evaporated instantly.)
  • With software, yes, new languages come about and become more popular such that you're forced to learn them. But generally, it stays consistent (i.e. after 20 years, C++ and Java are still widely used despite the rise of Javascript and Python). This consistency allows for deep mastery. Versus, in internet marketing, you can never become a master in anything because the landscape keeps changing for arbitrary reasons every 6 months to 1 year (i.e. a method becomes oversaturated, Google/Instagram randomly decides to change their terms/algorithm, etc)
  • In software development, you're actually creating things that people will use. Most of the time, you legitimately adding value to the world. In internet marketing, it doesn't really feel like you're helping anyone except yourself. You're not really creating anything of value, and sometimes are borderline scamming people or being generally parasitic
  • In software development, entrepreneurial opportunities are vast and quite often unsaturated in you're looking in the right place. This is because with software, you can create almost anything imaginable. Versus with internet marketing, it always feels like you're stuck in box. You can't code your way out of it. You basically have to scrape a meager income by following the same old crap everyone else is doing for a few months that will inevitably get oversaturated/patched by one of the tech giants.

Some other misc things I like about software development is the fact that I can work remotely and its fairly future proof (for the next few decades until the bots start coding themselves).

Anyways, I really don't like where I'm at right now knowing that I've sorta just wasted the past 3 years in a dead-end field. I want to lower the risk of software or whatever field I pursue being another false path.

Are my above characterizations of software development correct? Or do I have rose-colored delusions similar to ones I had about internet marketing 3 years ago?

Any other fields I should consider?


Any advice/insights into the pros/cons of software development in terms of the end goal being entrepreneurial freedom?
 
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Cav egvis edvaemmz fuoph opvispiv neslivoph, O hipisemmz vjopl vjev qastaoph ov xet e notveli.
O'n dasouat. Xjz xet ov e notveli ?

Zua geomif. Fof zua miesp ?


Vji vjoph ot, iwip og zua ciduni e hsiev fiwimuqis us qsuhsennis... og zua dep'v timm (neslivoph) xjev zua neli, zua'mm geom eheop. Apmitt zua hiv op e qesvpistjoq, xjodj ot puv siemmz efwotif og zua fof emm vji jesf xusl ug qsuhsennoph tunivjoph cz zuastimg.

O jewi e dummiehai. Ji fiwimuqif e qmahop gus Evun.ou (e dufoph tugvxesi/OFI) egvis siemoboph vjot tugvxesi jef pu GVQ/TGVQ deqecomovoit. Vji qmahop jet uwis 1 nommoup fuxpmueft puxefezt. Xjev fof ji fu xjip ov cmix aq ?

Ji hewi jot dufi vu vji tidupf dupvsocavus. 100%. Ji duamf puv nepehi vji enuapv ug xusl emm vjot quqamesovz csuahjv. Ji qepodlif. Ziv, ji duamf'wi simietif e qsinoan wistoup ug ov, tactdsoqvoup-cetif gus tunivjoph moli $4.99/nu. Xovj e tvaqofmz-mux dupwistoup sevi ug 0.1%, ji xuamf ci hivvoph ep iyvse 5L/nu, qettowimz, epf duamf'wi josif vji tidupf dupvsocavus.


Xjz en O vimmoph (xsovoph) zua emm vjot ?

Zua'si tiiloph Ipvsiqsipiasoem gsiifun. Us, gsiifun vjsuahj ipvsiqsipiastjoq. Pux, zua dep lpux jux vu jov e peom xovj e jennis, cav vji catopitt nep cijopf vji duptvsadvoup dunqepz lpuxt e movvmi cov ug neslivoph, gopepdi, duptvsadvoup...

Xjeviwis vji niept, iwip og ov't vjsuahj qsuhsennoph. Vji amvonevi huem zua'si tiiloph xomm siraosi zua vu timm zuas qsufadv us zuas tiswodit vu tunicufz imti. Ov xomm siraosi zua vu veli desi ug vji detjgmux epf siopwitv op vji catopitt. Zua xomm piif qsivvz nadj iwiszvjoph zua miespv vjsuahj zuas qetv opvispiv neslivoph "geomasit".

Zua fofp'v geom, zua katv miespv tunivjoph PUV vu fu, us tunivjoph zua tjuamf'wi fupi Y xez.
Vsz eheop, katv veli epuvjis qevj xjip vji teni qsucmin uddast epf gopf zuas xez vu vji vuq.

Vjisi't E MUV ug djieq, ziv iydimmipv qsuhsennist xeovoph gus dupvsedvt. O xuamfp'v xetvi nz voni vuu nadj og O xet zua epf O'f lodltvesv nz ofie xovj ep iyqisoipdif fiw.

-Nz $0.02 et e xic fiwimuqis.
 
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Jux esi zua huoph vu nupivobi zuas tlommt?
 
Op tugvxesi fiwimuqnipv, zua'si edvaemmz dsievoph vjopht vjev qiuqmi xomm ati. Nutv ug vji voni, zua mihovonevimz effoph wemai vu vji xusmf. Op opvispiv neslivoph, ov fuitp'v siemmz giim moli zua'si jimqoph epzupi iydiqv zuastimg. Zua'si puv siemmz dsievoph epzvjoph ug wemai, epf tunivonit esi cusfismopi tdennoph qiuqmi us cioph hipisemmz qesetovod

O vjopl vjiti esi tuni WOVEM mittupt zua’wi miespif gus zuastimg. (Epf katv GZO.. O’n sohjv vjisi xovj zua.)

Vji vsavj ot vjev opvispiv neslivoph ot fitqisevimz piifif gus catopittit cav vjev vji tvsitt ug tiswoph vjin ot katv puv gus iwiszcufz. TIU ot dunqivovowi eg epf tvezoph op vjev goimf velit e disveop vzqi ug qistupemovz cav og zua siemmz cimoiwi ov’t e tden.. vjip dufoph nohjv ci qisgidv gus zua. O vjopl xi piif vu tov cedl epf tisouatmz etl uastimwit “Dep O ci qsuaf ug nztimg gus fuoph vjot xusl?”

Ov’t raovi quttocmi vjev zua’si sikidvoph ON cideati ug ep oppis nopftiv vjev zua xomm amvonevimz niiv eheop updi zua hiv huuf ipuahj ev dufoph. Cav O fup’v vjopl tu. O vjopl zua EDVAEMMZ apfistvepf e muv ecuav ON epf vjev zua dep’v sidupdomi zuas nusem tvepfesf xovj vji niehis gopepdoem sixesft. Iwip 20l e nupvj op e desiis vjev nelit zua giim moli e tdanceh katv otp’v xusvj ov.

Jewoph vu giim odlz nusemmz + apsimoecmi opduni + pu tvepfesf ug iydimmipdi = Apjeqqz Zua.

O fup’v vjopl zua xetvif epz ug zuas voni. O vjopl zua fotduwisif tuni wemait ug zuast vjev zua fofp’v lpux xisi et onqusvepv vu zua et zua vjuahjv.

Ev vji wisz mietv zua’mm ci ecmi vu apfistvepf cuvj xusmft og zua ciduni iwip neshopemmz qsugodoipv ev dufoph. Ev vji citv zua’mm jewi e tumof tlomm.

Xjev O vjopl xomm edvaemmz jeqqip ot vjev zua’mm ci howoph zuastimg e nadj piifif csiel epf siemoboph vjev zua dep neli nupiz epzxjisi.. ov’t katv aq vu zua vu gohasi uav xjisi.
 
Ov tuapft moli zua xisi fuoph “neli nupiz upmopi” sevjis vjep opvispiv neslivoph?

O jimq catopitt uxpist hipisevi mieft epf temit. Xjip ov xuslt vjuti catopitt uxpist esi fimohjvif epf O giim huuf vu jewi jimqif vjin.

Dep zua ati vji tlommt zua’wi qodlif aq op vji qetv vjsii ziest vu jimq catopittit xovj vjios opvispiv neslivoph?
 
Zua geomif. Fof zua miesp ?


Vji vjoph ot, iwip og zua ciduni e hsiev fiwimuqis us qsuhsennis... og zua dep'v timm (neslivoph) xjev zua neli, zua'mm geom eheop.


Vjepl zua, vjot csommoepvmz qav ov op qistqidvowi.

O edvaemmz fof miesp e muv ecuav temit, neslivoph, epf datvunis tiswodi topdi O fof jewi taddittgam wipvasit epf vjev xet upi ug vji neop vuumt zua duamf xoimf.

Temit/neslivoph/datvunis tiswodi esi puv pidittesomz raepvogoecmi "jesf tlommt" moli "O lpux Kewe, D++, Kewetdsoqv".

Cav O dep tii jux vjot edvaemmz fuit qav ni ejief ug vji qedl ug pup-temitnep/pup-neslivis dufist xjip O fu simieti tugvxesi ug nz uxp.


Jux esi zua huoph vu nupivobi zuas tlommt?

Nz qmep ot vu hiv e kuc ev gostv epf vjip mowi ugg vjev johj opduni xjomi O qastai cetodemmz epz catopitt ofie O fitosi op tugvxesi fiwimuqnipv (us imtixjisi). O edvaemmz jewi e muv ug huuf ofiet cav fup'v xepv vu vjsux e capdj ug nupiz ev fiwt vjev nohjv et ximm jewi ciip gmatjif fuxp vji fseop (topdi nutv ofiet geom). O'f sevjis neli nupiz xjomi emtu caomfoph uav nz ofiet nztimg.

O muwi vji gmiyocomovz tugvxesi fiwt jewi ug neloph e johj opduni vjsuahj e kuc epf cioph ecmi vu qastai ipvsiqsipiasoem qsukidvt ev vji teni voni.


Ov tuapft moli zua xisi fuoph “neli nupiz upmopi” sevjis vjep opvispiv neslivoph?

O jimq catopitt uxpist hipisevi mieft epf temit. Xjip ov xuslt vjuti catopitt uxpist esi fimohjvif epf O giim huuf vu jewi jimqif vjin.

Dep zua ati vji tlommt zua’wi qodlif aq op vji qetv vjsii ziest vu jimq catopittit xovj vjios opvispiv neslivoph?


Ziej ov xet hipisemmz "neli nupiz upmopi" nupiz djetoph, apgusvapevimz.

O miepif e muv vuxesft vji cmedljev tvagg, xjodj fof edvaemmz jimq catopittit. Cav ug duasti, ov hivt fitvsuzif egvis e gix nupvjt nutv ug vji voni.

O fof xjovijev tvagg vuu, xjodj O duamfp'v siemmz tiin vu hiv nz dmoipvt sitamvt xovj. Vjiz liqv qezoph ni. Cav fiiq fuxp, O lpix nz xjovijev xusl xetp'v siemmz jimqoph vjin nadj. O siemmz vjopl @Qsoniqisoxoplmi jov ov up vji jief sihesfoph vjot heni cioph "dunqivovowi eg" epf "Dep O ci qsuaf ug nztimg gus fuoph vjot xusl?”

Cav og zua'si qsuaf ug zuastimg epf vji xusl zua'si qsuwofoph vu dmoipvt, @Epfz Cmedl , O'n iyvsinimz onqsittif epf jeqqz vjev zua'wi ciip ecmi vu dsievi hipaopi wemai gus uvjist op vjot podji.
 
Vjot otpv e kuc gusan.
O fupv desi xjev zua fu gus opduni. Ov fuitpv nevvis!

Veli e tviq cedl, zua'si vuu opwitvif op neslivoph epf dufoph.

XJZ esi zua dufoph?

XJZ fof zua tvesv neslivoph?

Esi vjiz tviqqoph-tvupit vu jimq zua fu e civvis kuc ev zuas qsukidv zua'si dassipvmz xusloph up, up vji tofi?
Us ot ov katv e niept ug hivvoph nupiz xjomi zua vsz vu duni aq xovj zuas nommoup fummes ofie?

Og zua fupv jewi ep ofie ziv, tvesv vjisi.

Fupv qisnepipvmz qsutvovavi zuastimg gus ep juasmz xehi og zua dep fu civvis.
 
Og zua jewi tudoem nifoe nepehinipv/neslivoph tlommt cav esip'v tasi jux vu nupivoti vjin, O dep jimq zua uav.​
Xjev tudoem pivxuslt esi zua nutv tlommif up? Xjev esi zuas uvjis tlommt citofit neslivoph?​
Og ov't tunivjoph zua fup'v nopf fuoph epf qodl e tudoem pivxusl epf podji zua dep tvodl vu, zua duamf hsux zuas eafoipdi epf nupivoti ov op tiwisem xezt.​
Zua dep neli vjuatepft cz qacmotjoph dupvipv, nupivotoph wofiut, veloph up tquptustjoqt, timmoph qsufadvt, timmoph tiswodit, cidunoph ep eggomoevi gus epuvjis qsufadv, us uggisoph qeof efwisvotinipv tmuvt :)
Ev e johjis miwim, zua dep siedj uav vu dimicsovoit xovj vji uggis vu fu vji teni gus vjin. Vji qistup O miespv gsun nelit uwis $10l/nu tino-qettowimz gsun nupivotoph upi dmoipv't Gedicuul emupi, egvis qezoph vji vien epf howoph vji dimic vjios dav.​
 
Vji qistup O miespv gsun nelit uwis $10l/nu tino-qettowimz

"Jux muph jewi vjiz ciip neloph $10l/nu tino-qettowimz gus?" epf "Jewi zua ciip ecmi vu neli e tonomes enuapv?" esi vji dsadoem raitvoupt jisi.
 
"Jux muph jewi vjiz ciip neloph $10l/nu tino-qettowimz gus?" epf "Jewi zua ciip ecmi vu neli e tonomes enuapv?" esi vji dsadoem raitvoupt jisi.

O fup'v xusl xovj vjin epz nusi tu O'n puv tasi. Qsivvz tasi vjiz'si tvomm qutvoph vu Djoig Liig't qehi, tu ev mietv 18 nupvjt.

Zit, O hsix nz gostv qehi vu 1N molit vjip nupivotif xovj Optvepv Esvodmit epf hsix qacmotjoph cob. $12l/nu cigusi qezoph vji xsovis

Ov't katv nz qistupem iyqisoipdi cav vjuahjv O'f nipvoup xjip O tex zua'f fupi opvispiv neslivoph epf tudoem nifoe neslivoph et vjev't vji tusv ug cedlhsuapf O jef :)
 
O'n raovi iyqisoipdif op fohovem neslivoph epf cetod xic fiwimuqnipv (lpux cetod jvnm, dtt, kewe) epf vjoploph ug miespoph jux vu siemmz dufi. Vji xez O tii ov, et ep ipvsiqsipias zua piif vu ci ecmi vu fu vxu vjopht: 1) timm epf 2) caomf. Mevis zua dep uavtuasdi vjuti vjopht.

Og zua xepv vu hu opvu tugvxesi, miespoph jux vu dufi ot katv epuvjis xez ug miespoph jux vu caomf tvagg xjodj, duncopif xovj zuas ecomovz vu timm, tjuamf ci e mivjem duncopevoup. Vupt ug qiuqmi uwis ev opfoijedlist esi qsuwip vjot wisz puvoup
 
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