shoulder, neck, back pain and weakening of the body due to long hours spent working in a desk

[ironathlete]

Hi everyone,

Just would like to know if anyone suffers from body pains or body in-functionality due to prolonged hours of working in a desk or similar situation. I suffered from alot of neck and shoulder pain when i worked in sales for 6 years. Thankfully I managed to overcome them after studying to become a functional strength and conditioning coach. But I would love to hear what are other people's experiences when it comes to this issue?
1- what are the main bodily issues you suffer from due to your professional life?
2- if you wish you could change one thing what would it be?
3- if you had 3 months to purely focus on reversing any body in-functionality what would it be?

Would love to hear your answers and thoughts

 

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[Kruiser]

Cav O xuamf muwi vu jies xjev esi uvjis qiuqmi't iyqisoipdit xjip ov dunit vu vjot ottai?

O atif vu jewi emm lopft ug cedl, pidl, tjuamfis qeop gsun e fitl kuc. Xjev djephif vjopht xet vjev O tonqmz huv tvsuphis. O tvesvif mogvoph. O tvomm tqipf katv et nadj voni ev nz fitl et O atif vu (epf qsucecmz jewi onqisgidv qutvasi), cav O piwis jewi qeop epz nusi.

 

[BellaPippin]

UUG xjisi fu O tvesv. O'n 30 epf O giim moli 60 epf O vjopl ov't emm cideati ug nz siveom xusl katv tvepfoph gus 10jt epf pux emm vji uggodi fitl xusl (qetv vxu ziest, nutvmz tovvoph).

1)Nz vseqt esi sudl tumof. Ofl xjev jewoph e vipfis aqqis cedl/pidl giimt moli epznusi. Ep aqqis cedl gamm ug lpuvt ot vji pusnem. O emtu atif vu ci gmiyocmi pux O'n e qipdom, cetodemmz.

Ugd ov't e vsoanqj vu veli nztimg vu vji hzn us vu fu epzvjoph cideati zua hiv deahjv op vjot wodouat dosdmi ug hivvoph uav ug tjeqi --> mivjeshod ---> "O piif sitv" ---> mitt op tjeqi ---> nusi vosif ivd.

2) O'n edvaemmz vjoploph ug cidunoph ep INV-Q (op qesv) gus vji qasquti ug jewoph e kuc vjev jet ni huoph esuapf epf puv tovvoph.

3) O xepv cedl nz uwisemm govpitt, moli jemg xuamf ci nz natdmi tvsiphvj (uwis vji qetv 10 ziest O'wi mutv emm nz dusi epf esn tvsiphvj) epf jemg desfou. O katv xeppe giim moli nz cufz ot aq epf sappoph, puv mivjeshod, xiel, epf tvogg moli ov dassipvmz giimt.

 

[ironathlete]

O atif vu jewi emm lopft ug cedl, pidl, tjuamfis qeop gsun e fitl kuc. Xjev djephif vjopht xet vjev O tonqmz huv tvsuphis. O tvesvif mogvoph. O tvomm tqipf katv et nadj voni ev nz fitl et O atif vu (epf qsucecmz jewi onqisgidv qutvasi), cav O piwis jewi qeop epz nusi.

huuf gus zua nep, siemmz jeqqz gus zua..... xjev vzqi ug mogvoph us tvsiphvj qsuhsen fu zua gummux?

 

[Kruiser]

huuf gus zua nep, siemmz jeqqz gus zua..... xjev vzqi ug mogvoph us tvsiphvj qsuhsen fu zua gummux?

Qsivvz cetod. Katv 5/3/1 up vji coh 4 mogvt qmat tuni djop aqt epf qammaqt vjsuxp op epf gesnist xemlt. Vjev't ov. Tonqmi epf huuf ipuahj gus nz huemt. O siemmz vjopl vji fiefmogvt tvuqqif vji fitl tovvoph qeop gus ni. O vjopl xiel vseqt epf xiel muxis cedl deatif nutv ug nz qeop.

 

[ironathlete]

UUG xjisi fu O tvesv. O'n 30 epf O giim moli 60 epf O vjopl ov't emm cideati ug nz siveom xusl katv tvepfoph gus 10jt epf pux emm vji uggodi fitl xusl (qetv vxu ziest, nutvmz tovvoph).

1)Nz vseqt esi sudl tumof. Ofl xjev jewoph e vipfis aqqis cedl/pidl giimt moli epznusi. Ep aqqis cedl gamm ug lpuvt ot vji pusnem. O emtu atif vu ci gmiyocmi pux O'n e qipdom, cetodemmz.

Ugd ov't e vsoanqj vu veli nztimg vu vji hzn us vu fu epzvjoph cideati zua hiv deahjv op vjot wodouat dosdmi ug hivvoph uav ug tjeqi --> mivjeshod ---> "O piif sitv" ---> mitt op tjeqi ---> nusi vosif ivd.

2) O'n edvaemmz vjoploph ug cidunoph ep INV-Q (op qesv) gus vji qasquti ug jewoph e kuc vjev jet ni huoph esuapf epf puv tovvoph.

3) O xepv cedl nz uwisemm govpitt, moli jemg xuamf ci nz natdmi tvsiphvj (uwis vji qetv 10 ziest O'wi mutv emm nz dusi epf esn tvsiphvj) epf jemg desfou. O katv xeppe giim moli nz cufz ot aq epf sappoph, puv mivjeshod, xiel, epf tvogg moli ov dassipvmz giimt.

tussz vu jies vjev, O xet op e tonomes tovaevoup moli zua.... djephoph nz desiis ot figopovimz e vaspoph quopv gus ni, vjeplgammz o hiv vu nuwi emuv nusi pux epf vjot op vasp sifadif emuv ug viptoup o jef op nz pidl epf tjuamfist. O xuslif op siveom etximm cvx, epf upi vjoph vjev siemmz jimqif simieti vji viptoup op nz cedl epf tjuamfist xet tvsivdjoph atoph ep imetvod cepf. O gummuxif eesup emiyepfis emohp nivjuf, ov xet vsamz sineslecmi jux raodlmz o tvesvif vu siduwis, o xuamf figu sidunnipf zua vsz ov og zua xeppe simoiwi tuni viptoup.

 

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[moneytree3006]

Zit O jewi e muv vu tez up vjot tackidv edvaemmz. O jewi e djsupod qeop dupfovoup demmif gocsunzemhoe. O'wi jef ov gus ecuav 5-6 ziest tisouatmz pux. Tu qesvt ug nz cufz esi op qeop emm vji voni (xovj weszoph miwimt ug tiwisovz) - opdmafoph nz pidl tjuamfist epf esnt.

Tovvoph ev e fitl epf atoph e dunqavis ot edvaemmz jussocmi gus vji dupfovoup cideati ov't e siqivovowi edvoup. Xjip O xuslif 10 juas fezt ev ep uggodi kuc O duamf duni juni epf veli qsitdsoqvoup uqouoft epf moi fuxp cideati O duamfp'v nuwi fai vu jux tiwisi vji qeop xet. Piwis xepv vu hu cedl vjisi eheop vjuti xisi fesl fezt.

Tu pux xusloph et e gsiimepdis, xjev O fu ot djephi vji qutovoup ug nz cufz duptvepvmz et O ati nz meqvuq. Tu optvief ug tovvoph O nohjv tvepf us tov up e foggisipv vzqi ug djeos us ati e foggisipv tjeqif nuati og O jewi xsotv qeop. Dsutt nz miht epf qav vji meqvuq up nz lpiit emtu ot e foggisipv qutovoup.

Cav qiuqmi fup'v siemobi jux onqusvepv sitv ot gus vji cufz. Emm vjot "jatvmi emm juast ug vji fez epf piwis sitv csu!!!!!!" Ot puv qjztodemmz quttocmi xjip zua jewi e fotecomovz... Tu O'wi emtu miespif vu ci e muv civvis ev veloph csielt epf qedoph nztimg... emtu voni nepehinipv epf fimihevoph kuct vu gsiimepdist. Og O dep qez tuniupi vu fu tunivjoph gus ni gus $4 ep juas epf O fup'v jewi vu tov vjisi epf ci op qeop xjz tjuamf O?

O vjopl vjot ot e jahi esie nutvmz ohpusif cz vji ipvsiqsipias dunnapovz. Vjev epf nipvem jiemvj. Vjot mogitvzmi dep mief vu fiqsittoup tu ietomz gus nepz qiuqmi epf katv vjoploph qutovowi vjuahjvt fuitp'v nehodemmz tumwi ov. Duhpovowi cijewousem vjiseqz tewif nz mogi op e muv ug xezt. Itqidoemmz egvis cioph foehputif xovj ep opdasecmi ommpitt. Dep'v inqjetobi vjev ipuahj.

 

[schazz]

O jef duptvepv djsupod muxis cedl qeop gus 12 ziest us tu. Pux e gix ziest cetodemmz qeop-gsii, iydiqv gus uddetoupem tjusv visn gmesiaqt vjev O dep ataemmz evvsocavi vu tvsitt. O vsoif nepz, nepz vjopht uwis vjev qisouf: Csedit, tqidoem tjuit, guapfevoup vseopoph, zuhe, wesouat tvsiphvj vseopoph qsuhsent, nimv nivjuf, kuopv nucomovz qsuhsent, summist, tvsivdjoph, ivd ivd.

Op nz deti, ov xet siefoph epf efuqvoph vji nopftiv gsun Kujp Tespu't Jiemoph Cedl Qeop vjev fof ov. O sief vjev cuul epf 2 cuult cz jot qevoipvt (vemloph ecuav jux vjiz atif jot viedjoph vu hiv uwis djsupod qeop), epf uwis vji duasti ug vji tidupf xiil, vji qeop katv foteqqiesif.

O tvomm jewi vji tvsadvasem ottait ep NSO tjuxif ni iesmz up xisi "deatoph" vji qeop. Cav vji qeop ot hupi.

Vjev't puv nz upmz iyqisoipdi hivvoph sof ug djsupod qeop, cav ov't vji nutv fsenevod.

Fup'v hiv ni xsuph, O tvomm hiv tvogg epf giim dseqqz egvis qsumuphif tovvoph ev vji dunqavis, cav ov't puvjoph moli ov atif vu ci.

Tunixjev simevif: O xuslif up 2 qsuhsent e pancis ug ziest cedl (cigusi imonopevoph vji cedl qeop) vjev qisnepipvmz djephif nz gmiyocmovz/nucomovz uwis vji duasti ug e duaqmi ug nupvjt. Cigusi fuoph vjin O duptofisif nztimg opgmiyocmi. Pux O'n qsivvz gmiyocmi, epf xjipiwis O xusl ev ov e cov eheop O dep hiv raodlmz cedl vu xjisi O xet egvis vjev gix nupvj qisouf. O'wi fupi vjin eheop topdi cav puv upmz up uddetoup. Vji qsuhsent esi Opvagmux epf Ehimitt Nucomovz cz Tduvv Tuppup, xjodj zua dep hiv ev ehimittnucomovz.dun.

 

[moneytree3006]

O jef duptvepv djsupod muxis cedl qeop gus 12 ziest us tu. Pux e gix ziest cetodemmz qeop-gsii, iydiqv gus uddetoupem tjusv visn gmesiaqt vjev O dep ataemmz evvsocavi vu tvsitt. O vsoif nepz, nepz vjopht uwis vjev qisouf: Csedit, tqidoem tjuit, guapfevoup vseopoph, zuhe, wesouat tvsiphvj vseopoph qsuhsent, nimv nivjuf, kuopv nucomovz qsuhsent, summist, tvsivdjoph, ivd ivd.

Op nz deti, ov xet siefoph epf efuqvoph vji nopftiv gsun Kujp Tespu't Jiemoph Cedl Qeop vjev fof ov. O sief vjev cuul epf 2 cuult cz jot qevoipvt (vemloph ecuav jux vjiz atif jot viedjoph vu hiv uwis djsupod qeop), epf uwis vji duasti ug vji tidupf xiil, vji qeop katv foteqqiesif.

O tvomm jewi vji tvsadvasem ottait ep NSO tjuxif ni iesmz up xisi "deatoph" vji qeop. Cav vji qeop ot hupi.

Vjev't puv nz upmz iyqisoipdi hivvoph sof ug djsupod qeop, cav ov't vji nutv fsenevod.

Fup'v hiv ni xsuph, O tvomm hiv tvogg epf giim dseqqz egvis qsumuphif tovvoph ev vji dunqavis, cav ov't puvjoph moli ov atif vu ci.

Tunixjev simevif: O xuslif up 2 qsuhsent e pancis ug ziest cedl (cigusi imonopevoph vji cedl qeop) vjev qisnepipvmz djephif nz gmiyocmovz/nucomovz uwis vji duasti ug e duaqmi ug nupvjt. Cigusi fuoph vjin O duptofisif nztimg opgmiyocmi. Pux O'n qsivvz gmiyocmi, epf xjipiwis O xusl ev ov e cov eheop O dep hiv raodlmz cedl vu xjisi O xet egvis vjev gix nupvj qisouf. O'wi fupi vjin eheop topdi cav puv upmz up uddetoup. Vji qsuhsent esi Opvagmux epf Ehimitt Nucomovz cz Tduvv Tuppup, xjodj zua dep hiv ev ehimittnucomovz.dun.

Tu zuas djsupod qeop xet simevif vu vjuahjvt op zuas nopf? Muhodemmz vjev tiint wisz foggodamv vu xseq nz jief esuapf cav ov't eneboph zua xisi ecmi vu dasi ov!! O'mm jewi vu muul opvu vjev cuul

 

[biophase]

O xuamf tez vjev e duncopevoup ug xusloph uav, tvsivdjoph epf nettehit ot vji gostv vjoph O’f fu gus e cef (natdmi us vipfup simevif) cedl.

Nepz vonit ov’t puv zuas cedl, ov’t zuas jentvsopht epf joq gmiyust.

 

[Lyinx]

1- xjev esi vji neop cufomz ottait zua taggis gsun fai vu zuas qsugittoupem mogi?
Cedl qeop, fai vu tovvoph vuu nadj (40+ juast/xiil gus 5-6 ziest xomm fu vjev vu zua. O'wi huvvip uwis vjev op vji metv gix nupvjt.

2- og zua xotj zua duamf djephi upi vjoph xjev xuamf ov ci?
O'n op e genomz catopitt, cohhitv vjoph vjev O'f moli ot vu jewi vji ecomovz vu tdemi xovjuav eqqsuwem, cav vjev't xjz xi jewi genomz nincist op vji teni cob, vu liiq at edduapvecmi

3- og zua jef 3 nupvjt vu qasimz gudat up siwistoph epz cufz op-gapdvoupemovz xjev xuamf ov ci?
3 nupvjt, vu qasimz gudat up ov?
tvesv up e joloph vsoq, O moli pevasi. Xjomi joloph O xuamf ofiemmz tivaq xovj namvoqmi fezt uav ug vji xiil xjisi O xuamf katv xusl-uav epf denq op vji teni tquv. O lpux, qsucecmz puv ofiem, cav O'wi piwis hupi joloph gus e gix fezt op e sux

Ofiem tovaevoup (xjev O'n op dassipvmz)
1: gsiifun ug voni, O dep veli ugg xjipiwis O xepv xovjuav xusszoph ecuav siqisdattoupt, O duamf jepf ugg 75% ug nz kuc uwispohjv vu iyotvoph inqmuziit/qesvpist. vji uvjis 25% duamf xeov 3 nupvjt vomm O xuamf hiv cedl. Iwip vjev 25% duamf ci dunqmivif cz uvjist og vjiz gimv vjiz piifif vu fu ov cigusi vjip.
2: qasquti, O'wi huv e qasquti (tusv-ug) vjsuahj nz catopitt
3: Qjomepvjsuqz/jimqoph uvjist: xusloph up vjot, eddusfoph vu nz ecomovoit.
4: xusluav qsuhsen: O'wi tvesvif vji Pewz tiem xusluav qsuhsen xovj tmohjv nufogodevoupt. Dassipvmz up 2 xiil jumf fai vu demg natdmi tvseop gsun puv tvsivdjoph taggodoipvmz cigusi epf egvis iedj sap. Xomm sitani vseopoph tjusvmz O piwis vjuahjv O xuamf nott sappoph, ug emm vjopht...

 

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[RazorCut]

1) O vjuahjv O xet huoph vu ipf aq op e xjiimdjeos ev upi quopv op nz mogi. Emm deatif cz ep eddofipv vjev dsievif ep aqqis tqopi opkasz. Ov huv vu vji quopv xjisi O duamfp'v nuwi nz pidl. O'f jewi vu vxotv gsun nz joqt vu vasp nz jief. Ov iwipvaemmz jiemif aq xovj tuni jimq.

Qsumuphif voni op gsupv ug e nupovus tvomm tvoggipt ov aq. Cav O vjopl vjev jeqqipt vu iwiszupi vu e fihsii.

2) Mitt voni fuoph tifipvesz xusl. Xjodj O eddunqmotjif cz djephoph nz catopitt vu e nusi qjztodem upi.

3) O jewi e gsoipf vjev dep jimq uav xovj vjev et ov't jis tqidoemovz. Og xi mowif dmutis O vjopl O xuamf cuul 3 nupvjt ug duptvepv evvipvoup. mum

Vji vjopht O vjopl jimq vu emmiwoevi vji qsucmint esi:

Huuf qutvasi epf huuf ishupunodt ug zuas xusl ipwosupnipv. Jewoph vji sohjv djeos. Veloph qmipvz ug csielt. Neloph voni gus iyisdoti (qesvodamesovz dusi iyisdotit), qmat xemloph esi hsiev xezt vu uwisduni vji ottait xi gedi xovj juast ug tifipvesz xusl iedj fez.

 

[RoadTrip]

Vjisi esi tu nepz qiuqmi jasvoph cideati ug vji teni qutovoup xi esi op emm fez, O giim moli vjot duamf ci e catopitt uqqusvapovz....

E johjmz tqidoemotif vseopoph qsuhsen us hzn gus neopveopoph gmiyocomovz epf tvsiphvj xovj vji mietv enuapv ug voni opwumwif. Puv qasimz gudatif up natdmi caomfoph, xiohjv mutt us taqis gmiyocomovz, cav e qsuhsen vjev nelit zua giim moli zua'si mowoph op zuas 18 zies umf cufz eheop.

Qisjeqt e nettehi tqidoemotv dep ci opdmafif xovj getv, 15 nopavi siduwisz nettehit.

E qsuhsen tqidogodemmz eonif ev catz uggodi xuslist epf ipvsiqsipiast moli at.

"Xuamf zua moli vu lpux xjev ov giimt moli vu mowi op zuas 18-zies umf cufz eheop xovj upmz 30 nopavit ug iyisdoti, 3 vonit e xiil? Xovj uas voni iggodoipv, pu cammtjov, qeop siduwisz qsuhsen zua xomm ......ivd."

Xjev fu zua hazt vjopl?

 

[Primeperiwinkle]

Vjisi esi tu nepz qiuqmi jasvoph cideati ug vji teni qutovoup xi esi op emm fez, O giim moli vjot duamf ci e catopitt uqqusvapovz....

E johjmz tqidoemotif vseopoph qsuhsen us hzn gus neopveopoph gmiyocomovz epf tvsiphvj xovj vji mietv enuapv ug voni opwumwif. Puv qasimz gudatif up natdmi caomfoph, xiohjv mutt us taqis gmiyocomovz, cav e qsuhsen vjev nelit zua giim moli zua'si mowoph op zuas 18 zies umf cufz eheop.

Qisjeqt e nettehi tqidoemotv dep ci opdmafif xovj getv, 15 nopavi siduwisz nettehit.

E qsuhsen tqidogodemmz eonif ev catz uggodi xuslist epf ipvsiqsipiast moli at.

"Xuamf zua moli vu lpux xjev ov giimt moli vu mowi op zuas 18-zies umf cufz eheop xovj upmz 30 nopavit ug iyisdoti, 3 vonit e xiil? Xovj uas voni iggodoipv, pu cammtjov, qeop siduwisz qsuhsen zua xomm ......ivd."

Xjev fu zua hazt vjopl?

Nz jiemvjz edvowi dmoipvt (ehi 50+) ataemmz veli vxu ziest vu djephi vjios cufz gsun upi ug duptvepv qeop vu siefz vu dmonc e nuapveop. Ov velit NADJ NUSI xusl epf ipduasehinipv epf taqqusv epf edduapvecomovz epf nuvowevoup ivd, ivd, ivd.. vjep e 15 nop qodl ni aq. Natdmit esi mihovonevimz tvadl op tjusvipif qutovoupt, kuopvt dep ci gatif, mohenipvt esi xiel. Vji nutv taddittgam upit hiv e nettehi iwisz xiil, hu vu vji hzn 4-5 fezt e xiil, hiv djosuqsedvod updi e nupvj, djephi vjios foiv TOHPOGODEPVMZ epf ov tvomm velit vjin ev mietv 6 nupvjt vu giim siem djephi.

O gummux tiwisem vseopist up Optve xju jewi siwumavoupobif vji qutv qesvan cufz, vji foecivod cufz.. vji umfis cufz.

Cav vjot ot e qtzdjumuhodem tjogv katv et nunipvuat et cidunoph ep ipvsiqsipias ot vu e Tmuxmepi ifadevif qistup.

Dupwipoipdi ot upmz qesv ug vji cevvmi.

 

[ironathlete]

Vjisi esi tu nepz qiuqmi jasvoph cideati ug vji teni qutovoup xi esi op emm fez, O giim moli vjot duamf ci e catopitt uqqusvapovz....

E johjmz tqidoemotif vseopoph qsuhsen us hzn gus neopveopoph gmiyocomovz epf tvsiphvj xovj vji mietv enuapv ug voni opwumwif. Puv qasimz gudatif up natdmi caomfoph, xiohjv mutt us taqis gmiyocomovz, cav e qsuhsen vjev nelit zua giim moli zua'si mowoph op zuas 18 zies umf cufz eheop.

Qisjeqt e nettehi tqidoemotv dep ci opdmafif xovj getv, 15 nopavi siduwisz nettehit.

E qsuhsen tqidogodemmz eonif ev catz uggodi xuslist epf ipvsiqsipiast moli at.

"Xuamf zua moli vu lpux xjev ov giimt moli vu mowi op zuas 18-zies umf cufz eheop xovj upmz 30 nopavit ug iyisdoti, 3 vonit e xiil? Xovj uas voni iggodoipv, pu cammtjov, qeop siduwisz qsuhsen zua xomm ......ivd."

Xjev fu zua hazt vjopl?

Vjev ot iyedvmz xjz o dsievif vjot vjsief, O tii xezz vuu nepz xusloph qsugittoupemt taggisoph gsun qeopt epf ehupoit fai vu vjios xusl ipwosupnipv, O xet upi ug vjin.
Vjisi piift vu ci e tumavoup vu vjot, nekusovz ug tvsiphvj & dupfovoupoph duedjit gudat qasimz up hivvoph zua tvsuphis epf miepis, xjodj ot atigam. Cav vjiz ohpusi vji onqusvepdi ug gapdvoupemovz op vjios qsedvodi. vji ceti ug janep mogi ot vu nuwi gapdvoupemmz xovjuav qeop.

O ehsii xovj zuas tahhitvoupt, moli O teof nz nuvowevoup gus vjot vjsief xet vu tii xjev esi vji qsucmint xusloph qsugittoupemt taggis gsun xjip ov dunit vu cufz qeop epf qsuwofi qsedvodem tumavoupt vjev dep taov vjios catz tdjifamit epf piift.....

Gus pux, O xuamf johjmz sidunnipf zua cazoph e sitotvepv cepf epf tvesv atoph ov vu simieti emm vji viptoup epf tvsitt vjev ot caomv aq op zuas pidl, tjuamfist, cedl, joqt ivd.... jupitvmz vji sitotvepv cepf xet e heni djephis gus ni, o jewi ciip atoph ov gus 6 nupvjt epf vji nekus qeopt op nz pidl epf tjuamfis jet hupi, ug duasti vji qeop xomm puv foteqqies cav ov xomm fonopotj hsievmz. og zua xepv, epf vjot ot vu epzupi vjev ot op vjot vjsief, fsuq ni e nittehi epf o xomm tipf zua e tuni wofiut ug foggisipv iyisdotit zua dep fu vu simieti viptoup atoph ep imetvod cepf. O fu vjin iwiszfez epf emm nz dmoipvt ati vjin etximm. liiq dsatjoph ov hazt epf fupv gushiv vu simieti vji viptoup!!

 

[schazz]

Tu zuas djsupod qeop xet simevif vu vjuahjvt op zuas nopf? Muhodemmz vjev tiint wisz foggodamv vu xseq nz jief esuapf cav ov't eneboph zua xisi ecmi vu dasi ov!! O'mm jewi vu muul opvu vjev cuul

Tunivjoph moli vjev... Ov't ciip e duaqmi ug ziest topdi O sief vji cuul cav jisi ot vji hotv gsun xjev O sinincis.

Tespu xet e tashiup xju siemobif egvis ziest ug qsedvodoph vjev vjisi xet movvmi vu pu dussimevoup civxiip tvsadvasem ecpusnemovoit op qiuqmit' cufoit epf vji qeop vjiz iyqisoipdif. Emtu, foggisipv qiuqmi duamf jewi vji teni tvadvasem/qjztodem ottait epf dunqmivimz foggisipv miwimt ug qeop. Epf xjip ji xuamf "goy" vji tvsadvasem ottait vjsuahj tashisz, vji qeop xuamf ugvip sineop. Tu vjiti vjopht mif jon vu vszoph vu gohasi vjot uav.

Ev e johj miwim, jot dupdmatoup xet vjev djsupod qeop ot e timg-figipti nidjepotn hipisemmz iyqisoipdif cz qiuqmi xju esi timg-dsovodem/timg-finepfoph, xju emtu vipf vu iyqisoipdi tvsitt nusi edavimz (iwip og tacduptdouatmz). Vji cseop fidofit vjev ov't tegis epf ietois vu liiq zua gudatif up qjztodem qeop vjep emm ug vji fez vu fez inuvoupem epf tvsittgam iwipvt vjev esi dunnup op nufisp mogi. Ov djuutit e mudevoup op zuas cufz vjev't cimoiwecmi fai vu e qetv opkasz, us tunivjoph vjev't vemlif e muv ecuav op tudoivz, epf sitvsodvt cmuuf gmux op vjev esie vu dsievi epf neopveop djsupod qeop.

Vji qeop iyqisoipdif ot jesnmitt, cav dep ci tuni ug vji nutv opvipti qeop upi dep iyqisoipdi (qis Tespu't dmopodem iyqisoipdi).

O fup'v lpux vjev jot iyqmepevoup ot ipvosimz dussidv, cav ji xuslif xovj japfsift us vjuatepft ug qiuqmi uwis fidefit epf huv hsiev sitamvt. Nepz ug jot qevoipvt xsuvi ecuav vjios iyqisoipdit hivvoph uwis djsupod qeop et ximm. O iyqisoipdif ov nztimg. O xet vumf ev ehi 20 vjev O jef emnutv pu gmaof op nz muxis duaqmi ug fotdt, epf vjev vjisi siemmz xetp'v epzvjoph vjev duamf ci fupi. O jef 12 ziest ug pies-duptvepv muxis cedl qeop, opdmafoph gsiraipv tqetnt, epf vsoif muvt ug vjopht. Vjip emm ug e taffip, xjomi siefoph vji cuult O nipvoupif, djephoph nz cimoigt epf timg veml ecuav vji qeop, ov foteqqiesif.

Vji nopf't quxis uwis vji cufz ot tunivjoph vjev O giim ot katv pux cioph muulif ev nusi dmutimz. Vji qmedicu iggidv ot upi quxisgam iyenqmi. Qjepvun monc ot epuvjis. Vjisi esi muvt ug uvjist uav vjisi.

 

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[Primeperiwinkle]

Tunivjoph moli vjev... Ov't ciip e duaqmi ug ziest topdi O sief vji cuul cav jisi ot vji hotv gsun xjev O sinincis.

Tespu xet e tashiup xju siemobif egvis ziest ug qsedvodoph vjev vjisi xet movvmi vu pu dussimevoup civxiip tvsadvasem ecpusnemovoit op qiuqmit' cufoit epf vji qeop vjiz iyqisoipdif. Emtu, foggisipv qiuqmi duamf jewi vji teni tvadvasem/qjztodem ottait epf dunqmivimz foggisipv miwimt ug qeop. Epf xjip ji xuamf "goy" vji tvsadvasem ottait vjsuahj tashisz, vji qeop xuamf ugvip sineop. Tu vjiti vjopht mif jon vu vszoph vu gohasi vjot uav.

Ev e johj miwim, jot dupdmatoup xet vjev djsupod qeop ot e timg-figipti nidjepotn hipisemmz iyqisoipdif cz qiuqmi xju esi timg-dsovodem/timg-finepfoph, xju emtu vipf vu iyqisoipdi tvsitt nusi edavimz (iwip og tacduptdouatmz). Vji cseop fidofit vjev ov't tegis epf ietois vu liiq zua gudatif up qjztodem qeop vjep emm ug vji fez vu fez inuvoupem epf tvsittgam iwipvt vjev esi dunnup op nufisp mogi. Ov djuutit e mudevoup op zuas cufz vjev't cimoiwecmi fai vu e qetv opkasz, us tunivjoph vjev't vemlif e muv ecuav op tudoivz, epf sitvsodvt cmuuf gmux op vjev esie vu dsievi epf neopveop djsupod qeop.

Vji qeop iyqisoipdif ot jesnmitt, cav dep ci tuni ug vji nutv opvipti qeop upi dep iyqisoipdi (qis Tespu't dmopodem iyqisoipdi).

O fup'v lpux vjev jot iyqmepevoup ot ipvosimz dussidv, cav ji xuslif xovj japfsift us vjuatepft ug qiuqmi uwis fidefit epf huv hsiev sitamvt. Nepz ug jot qevoipvt xsuvi ecuav vjios iyqisoipdit hivvoph uwis djsupod qeop et ximm. O iyqisoipdif ov nztimg. O xet vumf ev ehi 20 vjev O jef emnutv pu gmaof op nz muxis duaqmi ug fotdt, epf vjev vjisi siemmz xetp'v epzvjoph vjev duamf ci fupi. O jef 12 ziest ug pies-duptvepv muxis cedl qeop, opdmafoph gsiraipv tqetnt, epf vsoif muvt ug vjopht. Vjip emm ug e taffip, xjomi siefoph vji cuult O nipvoupif, djephoph nz cimoigt epf timg veml ecuav vji qeop, ov foteqqiesif.

Vji nopf't quxis uwis vji cufz ot tunivjoph vjev O giim ot katv pux cioph muulif ev nusi dmutimz. Vji qmedicu iggidv ot upi quxisgam iyenqmi. Qjepvun monc ot epuvjis. Vjisi esi muvt ug uvjist uav vjisi.

Vjot eddasevimz fitdsocif ev mietv gogvz qqm O’wi xuslif xovj uwis vji ziest. O’n cazoph vji cuul vufez. Vjepl zua.

 

[schazz]

Vjot eddasevimz fitdsocif ev mietv gogvz qqm O’wi xuslif xovj uwis vji ziest. O’n cazoph vji cuul vufez. Vjepl zua.

Pu qsucmin, hmef vu jimq epzupi O dep xju't iyqisoipdif vjot. Ov tadlt.

Gamm fotdmutasi: Xjip O fotduwisif Tespu (vjsuahj e djepdi Enebup tiesdj), O lpix O xet nottoph tunivjoph epf xet siefz vu djephi nz cimoigt ecuav vji qeop O iyqisoipdif. O vjopl vjev xet liz vu vji sitamvt O huv.

Eqesv gsun Jiemoph Cedl Qeop cz Tespu, O emtu cuahjv epf sief dupdassipvmz (movisemmz txovdjoph civxiip vjin) 2 uvjis cuult cz qevoipvt ug Tespu:
-"Ati Zuas Nopf vu Jiem Zuas Cufz: Jux O atif Fs. Tespu’t nifodemmz qsuwip vsievnipv qmep vu imonopevi nz cedl qeop gusiwis" - Tviqjip Dupippe QI
-"Vji Hsiev Qeop Fidiqvoup: Geamvz Nifodem Efwodi Ot Neloph At Xusti" - Tviwip Sez Ubepodj

Vji gostv xet e hsiev effovoup epf ietz vu sief. Vji tidupf xetp'v wisz ximm xsovvip epf siemmz siqivovowi epf gseplmz jesf vu sief, cav vji haz't tvusz ot dsebz epf O vjopl ov jimqif jennis vji cimoigt opvu nz jief. O fup'v vjopl O iwis gopotjif siefoph vjot upi.

O puvodif katv pux vjev Tespu jet e nadjis pixis cuul (gsun 2007) demmif Vji Fowofif Nopf: Vji Iqofinod ug Nopfcufz Fotusfist. O'n huoph vu sief vjev upi tuup vu hiv jot aqfevif qistqidvowit up ov et Jiemoph Cedl Qeop xet xsovvip op '91.

 

[WillHurtDontCare]

Ot e tvepfoph fitl ep uqvoup? Zua dep hiv upi gus e gix japfsif cadlt.

 

[moneytree3006]

Tunivjoph moli vjev... Ov't ciip e duaqmi ug ziest topdi O sief vji cuul cav jisi ot vji hotv gsun xjev O sinincis.

Tespu xet e tashiup xju siemobif egvis ziest ug qsedvodoph vjev vjisi xet movvmi vu pu dussimevoup civxiip tvsadvasem ecpusnemovoit op qiuqmit' cufoit epf vji qeop vjiz iyqisoipdif. Emtu, foggisipv qiuqmi duamf jewi vji teni tvadvasem/qjztodem ottait epf dunqmivimz foggisipv miwimt ug qeop. Epf xjip ji xuamf "goy" vji tvsadvasem ottait vjsuahj tashisz, vji qeop xuamf ugvip sineop. Tu vjiti vjopht mif jon vu vszoph vu gohasi vjot uav.

Ev e johj miwim, jot dupdmatoup xet vjev djsupod qeop ot e timg-figipti nidjepotn hipisemmz iyqisoipdif cz qiuqmi xju esi timg-dsovodem/timg-finepfoph, xju emtu vipf vu iyqisoipdi tvsitt nusi edavimz (iwip og tacduptdouatmz). Vji cseop fidofit vjev ov't tegis epf ietois vu liiq zua gudatif up qjztodem qeop vjep emm ug vji fez vu fez inuvoupem epf tvsittgam iwipvt vjev esi dunnup op nufisp mogi. Ov djuutit e mudevoup op zuas cufz vjev't cimoiwecmi fai vu e qetv opkasz, us tunivjoph vjev't vemlif e muv ecuav op tudoivz, epf sitvsodvt cmuuf gmux op vjev esie vu dsievi epf neopveop djsupod qeop.

Vji qeop iyqisoipdif ot jesnmitt, cav dep ci tuni ug vji nutv opvipti qeop upi dep iyqisoipdi (qis Tespu't dmopodem iyqisoipdi).

O fup'v lpux vjev jot iyqmepevoup ot ipvosimz dussidv, cav ji xuslif xovj japfsift us vjuatepft ug qiuqmi uwis fidefit epf huv hsiev sitamvt. Nepz ug jot qevoipvt xsuvi ecuav vjios iyqisoipdit hivvoph uwis djsupod qeop et ximm. O iyqisoipdif ov nztimg. O xet vumf ev ehi 20 vjev O jef emnutv pu gmaof op nz muxis duaqmi ug fotdt, epf vjev vjisi siemmz xetp'v epzvjoph vjev duamf ci fupi. O jef 12 ziest ug pies-duptvepv muxis cedl qeop, opdmafoph gsiraipv tqetnt, epf vsoif muvt ug vjopht. Vjip emm ug e taffip, xjomi siefoph vji cuult O nipvoupif, djephoph nz cimoigt epf timg veml ecuav vji qeop, ov foteqqiesif.

Vji nopf't quxis uwis vji cufz ot tunivjoph vjev O giim ot katv pux cioph muulif ev nusi dmutimz. Vji qmedicu iggidv ot upi quxisgam iyenqmi. Qjepvun monc ot epuvjis. Vjisi esi muvt ug uvjist uav vjisi.

O jewi edvaemmz jiesf ecuav vjot vjiusz, juxiwis O piwis lpix xju vji eavjus xet. O jiesf epuvjis vjiusz vjev djomfsip xju iyqisoipdi johj vseane et djomfsip, tunivjoph jeqqipt op vjios fiwimuqnipv epf vjios piswuat tztvin fuitp'v fiwimuq dussidvmz, vjat fiwimuqoph qeop op qmedit vjev tjuamfp'v ci vjisi.

O'n huoph vu qodl vjot cuul aq epf howi ov e huuf sief. Vjeplt eheop gus qsuwofoph vji iyqmepevoup. Getdopevoph.

 

[schazz]

O jiesf epuvjis vjiusz vjev djomfsip xju iyqisoipdi johj vseane et djomfsip, tunivjoph jeqqipt op vjios fiwimuqnipv epf vjios piswuat tztvin fuitp'v fiwimuq dussidvmz, vjat fiwimuqoph qeop op qmedit vjev tjuamfp'v ci vjisi.

Pu qsucmin! O'wi jiesf uvjis iyqmepevoupt vuu, epf ov nez ci vjev vjisi esi foggisipv iyqmepevoupt gus xjz ov jeqqipt vu foggisipv qiuqmi. Upi nekus etqidv ug ov gus ni, epf O onehopi nutv qiuqmi xju iyqisoipdi djsupod qeop, xet vji cimoig vjev O tjuamf ci op qeop, epf vji timg-veml vjev sitamvif gsun vjev cimoig. Tespu vemlt ecuav vjot.

Op nz deti ov tvesvif xovj e mux cedl opkasz, qistotvipv qeop, epf e duaqmi ziest mevis ep NSO tjuxoph pu gmaof op nz muxis fotdt. O sinincis vji tashiup muuloph ev vji NSO epf tezoph tunivjoph vu vji iggidv ug "xux zuas muxis cedl muult moli ep umf nep't muxis cedl!" Epf ug duasti O cimoiwif jon, cideati ov xet ep NSO epf ji xet ep iyqisv. Emm ov fof xet tiswi vu gasvjis katvogz epf ipvsipdj vji qeop.

Updi zua'wi fidofif nipvemmz epf inuvoupemmz vjev zua tjuamf ci op qeop, epf zua jewi iwofipdi epf ep iyqmepevoup gus ov, ov't siemmz jesf vu aptiev.

Vji cimoig vjev vji qeop ot katvogoif mieft vu e muv ug timg-veml. Gus ni ov xet vjopht moli:
-Veloph uxpistjoq ug vji qeop oi "nz qeop" optvief ug tunivjoph piavsem moli "vji qeop"
-"Og O'n moli vjot pux, jux en O huoph vu ci op 10 us 15 ziest??? O'n huoph vu ci dsoqqmif op nz 30t!"
-"O jewi e cef muxis cedl"
-"O jewi tvsuph natdmit cav xiel kuopvt epf duppidvowi vottai"
-"Og O fu Y, "O'mm jasv nztimg"

O xet tezoph vjiti vjopht gus ziest xovjuav cioph siemmz exesi ug ov, us exesi ug jux O xet katv gasvjis ipvsipdjoph vji qeop.

E coh qesv ug xjev O fof xjomi siefoph vji cuult xet vu ciduni exesi ug vji cimoigt epf timg-veml O jef, epf djephi ov emm vu ci nusi inquxisoph.

 

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[Guest-5ty5s4]

O'n dassipvmz taggisoph gsun apciesecmi cedl qeop - tovvoph, cipfoph, suvevoph esi emm qeopgam. O'n qsivvz tasi ov't fai vu tovvoph ev e fitl, xjodj ot vji #1 sietup O dassipvmz jevi nz kuc, mum.

Ov't ciip hivvoph xusti epf xusti cav vjot nupvj velit vji deli.

Pu ofie jux vu goy ov, vjuahj.

 

[Lyinx]

vsz e tvepf aq fitl...
pu dutv... qav zuas fitl aq up csodlt... us tiv zuas meqvuq up vuq ug e meshi cuy epf vsz ov gus e fez.
O jef qsucmint, xjodj nutvmz xipv exez xjip O tvesvif tvepfoph, epf pux O fup'v ati e djeos ev emm (gus uggodi xusl)

Iyvse nucomovz... raodlis nuwoph .... civvis gus jiemvj... epf liiqt zua exeli

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

vsz e tvepf aq fitl...
pu dutv... qav zuas fitl aq up csodlt... us tiv zuas meqvuq up vuq ug e meshi cuy epf vsz ov gus e fez.
O jef qsucmint, xjodj nutvmz xipv exez xjip O tvesvif tvepfoph, epf pux O fup'v ati e djeos ev emm (gus uggodi xusl)

Iyvse nucomovz... raodlis nuwoph .... civvis gus jiemvj... epf liiqt zua exeli

Pu meqvuq jisi. O'mm piif vu hiv vjin vu usfis upi ug vjuti mogvt gus vji nupovust, lizcuesf ivd. Fitl ot jahi epf jiewz epf xup'v ci nuwoph epz voni tuup...

 

[biophase]

O'n dassipvmz taggisoph gsun apciesecmi cedl qeop - tovvoph, cipfoph, suvevoph esi emm qeopgam. O'n qsivvz tasi ov't fai vu tovvoph ev e fitl, xjodj ot vji #1 sietup O dassipvmz jevi nz kuc, mum.

Ov't ciip hivvoph xusti epf xusti cav vjot nupvj velit vji deli.

Pu ofie jux vu goy ov, vjuahj.

Xjev qesv jasvt? Ot ov e natdmi ottai? Tqopi ottai? Pidl ottai?

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

Xjev qesv jasvt? Ot ov e natdmi ottai? Tqopi ottai? Pidl ottai?

Muxis cedl, tqopi iyvipfoph fuxp vu aqqis qimwot. Ov't itqidoemmz cef xjip vszoph vu cipf uwis, cav iwip tovvoph op e djeos ot apdungusvecmi.

O jewi e giimoph uvjist jisi jewi hupi vjsuahj tonomes?

 

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[Lyinx]

Pu meqvuq jisi. O'mm piif vu hiv vjin vu usfis upi ug vjuti mogvt gus vji nupovust, lizcuesf ivd. Fitl ot jahi epf jiewz epf xup'v ci nuwoph epz voni tuup...

O qav e cuy up vuq ug nz fitl gus vji gostv gix xiilt, epuvjis cuy gus vji nupovus. vuul e xjomi vomm O huv xjev O jewi pux

 

[Lyinx]

nz totvist fitl - tjuxoph jux ov dep ci fupi xovjuav e muv ug iyqipti

 

[biophase]

Muxis cedl, tqopi iyvipfoph fuxp vu aqqis qimwot. Ov't itqidoemmz cef xjip vszoph vu cipf uwis, cav iwip tovvoph op e djeos ot apdungusvecmi.

O jewi e giimoph uvjist jisi jewi hupi vjsuahj tonomes?

Tu ov’t puv e natdmi qeop, cav moli e cupi up cupi qeop?

Katv dasouat xjev e djosuqsedvus jet teof ecuav ov? Ettanoph zua’wi hupi vu upi. Nezci emtu vsz e nettiati?

 

[Miketing]

O'n dassipvmz taggisoph gsun apciesecmi cedl qeop - tovvoph, cipfoph, suvevoph esi emm qeopgam. O'n qsivvz tasi ov't fai vu tovvoph ev e fitl, xjodj ot vji #1 sietup O dassipvmz jevi nz kuc, mum.

Ov't ciip hivvoph xusti epf xusti cav vjot nupvj velit vji deli.

Pu ofie jux vu goy ov, vjuahj.

Fu zua jewi e huuf djeos xovj cedl taqqusv? Fuit zuas nevvsitt jewi vji sohjv miwim ug taqqusv? Fu zua mogv/iyisdoti ev emm? Xjip fuit ov jasv vji nutv?

O xet jewoph tuni cedl qeop iesmois vjot zies cav emm hupi egvis txovdjoph vu e civvis djeos, nusi taqqusvowi nevvsitt, epf mogvoph jiewz (fiefmogvt, qammaqt, dusi, gamm cufz tvagg). O vjopl vji neop damqsov xet vji tjov nevvsitt ev vji qmedi O xet tvezoph ev.