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What up guys and gals:) Im hoping someone could chime in and help me on this. Ive read so many books on REI that really Im just overloaded with the information and currently in analysis paralysis ( sorry if I did not spell that right)

Im having confusion with the buying formula for an all cash offer deal. To many variables from all these different authors with almost the same approach. This is my understanding. In a cash offer I need to get a nice discount in order to make a profit. I will not be doing a double closing, I just want to wholesale the house to another investor. Is wholesaling the same as assigning my rights on my contract for someone else to close?

This is where the cash formula comes in. From my understanding,Lets say for example I make an offer on a house that has a:

ARV of : $100,000
70% of 100,000 is : $70,000
minus rehab repair: $20,000
minus costs of holding,closing and selling( 10% of arv) $10,000
minus appraisal fee( for appraiser to do a subject to repair appraisal) $300.00
minus my wholesaling profit: $10,000
Maximum Allowable Offer for this property: $29,700


Where I start my negotiation is by deducting 15% from $29,700 = $25,245

So from my starting point of negotiating me and the seller need to come to an agreement in between $25,245-$29,700????????

So in order to wholesale it to another investor and make my $10,000 while still leaving a 25% to 35% profit spread in there for them or more. I would need to sale my contract at $39,700 right?

(Please forgive im a newbie at this) just doing what ive read in some of the books.

Now Im confused because the guy i learned this formula from I just cant seem to understand. It seems like he wants to screw us over while he makes a big profit. It sounds contradicting to me. Here take a look at his example buying formula: Im just quoting what he is saying by copying and pasting it here

"Remember that we are wholesalers. This means that we have to sell at 70% of the ARV. That 70% ARV needs to include the cost of the house, rehab cost, our wholesale profit, and points and closing cost. Anything below that offer will be your profit.

Example:
This is an example of where our numbers need to be. Depending on the area and other due diligence, we may have to go below 70%.

ARV $100,000
70% $70,000
Less Rehab -$20,000
Less Taxes, Insurance and Attorneys Fees
-$2,000
Less points for hard money (5% on 70K) -$3,500
Less our wholesale profit -approximately 10% 0f ARV
We will buy at a cost of $34,500


You would need to negotiate a lower price for your profit.

Please do not submit a property until you have already negotiated the required discount. "


 
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