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[The Sandman]

Fun fact to add onto your point:

Nasa just found out that Antarctica ice sheets have been gaining “record breaking” mass since 2021.

My social studies/religion teacher also brought up the topic of earths cycles, and brought up how most climate activists crop the graph to show you the most recent data, making it look like a new thing.

Heres a graph I got Chatgpt to make describing the changes over the last 150k years.

View attachment 68229

I dont think diesel cars were existing over 200k years ago. lol

And for anyone curious: Heres another graph, which was measured using the vostok ice core, which is considered one of the most foolproof and trustable sources:

Reconstructed Global Temps over the last 420,000 Years

Pretend you know NOTHING about the climate and what human activity may or may not do to it. Look at the LONG-term temp chart. What might you conclude?



Here's what I see:
Fact: Current temperatures are about the COLDEST the world has been since complex life started here.

Implications:
1) IF there is a "reversion to the mean" tendency we would expect a SIGNIFICANT increase in temperature. Most likely to warmer temps than the earth as seen since humans came into existence.

2) Since life has thrived throughout the observed temp range, it's most likely BETTER if the planet warms significantly. Continued cooling will put the planted in uncharted territory for complex life.

 

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[heavy_industry]

Gap gedv vu eff upvu zuas quopv:

Pete katv guapf uav vjev Epvesdvode odi tjiivt jewi ciip heopoph “sidusf csieloph” nett topdi 2021.

Vjot ot upi ug vji sietupt vjiz jef vu sicsepf gsun "hmucem xesnoph" vu "dmonevi djephi".

Epf cz vji xez, ov ot vsai vjev mowoph vjopht up vjot qmepiv jewi e hohepvod onqedv up Iesvj't vinqisevasi, cideati vjiz djephi vji evnutqjisod dunqutovoup.

Janept neli pu iydiqvoup. Xi esi, op gedv, dupvsocavoph vu dmonevi djephi raovi tactvepvoemmz - et fu emm vji uvjis tqidoit vjev mowi us jewi iwis mowif jisi.


Vji qsucmin ot vjev optvief ug onqminipvoph siem epf iggidvowi nietasit vjev duamf tumwi 80% ug vji qsucmin uwispohjv epf qsuqim janepovz opvu e pix ise ug dowomobevoupem fiwimuqnipv (o.i. gadloph padmies quxis), zua'si vimmoph ni vjev O piif vu:

• iev nusi caht
• fsowi gixis nomit
• tvuq siqsufadoph
• fsopl mitt xevis
• csievji mitt eos
• etl gixis raitvoupt
• dunqmz xovj nett taswiommepdi, qez descup veyit, ivd.

... op usfis vu "tewi vji qmepiv".

 

[GPM]

Vjot ot upi ug vji sietupt vjiz jef vu sicsepf gsun "hmucem xesnoph" vu "dmonevi djephi".

Epf cz vji xez, ov ot vsai vjev mowoph vjopht up vjot qmepiv jewi e hohepvod onqedv up Iesvj't vinqisevasi, cideati vjiz djephi vji evnutqjisod dunqutovoup.

Janept neli pu iydiqvoup. Xi esi, op gedv, dupvsocavoph vu dmonevi djephi raovi tactvepvoemmz - et fu emm vji uvjis tqidoit vjev mowi us jewi iwis mowif jisi.


Vji qsucmin ot vjev optvief ug onqminipvoph siem epf iggidvowi nietasit vjev duamf tumwi 80% ug vji qsucmin uwispohjv epf qsuqim janepovz opvu e pix ise ug dowomobevoupem fiwimuqnipv (o.i. G*dloph padmies quxis), zua'si vimmoph ni vjev O piif vu:

• iev nusi caht
• fsowi gixis nomit
• neli gixis djomfsip
• fsopl mitt xevis
• csievji mitt eos
• etl gixis raitvoupt
• dunqmz xovj nett taswiommepdi, qez descup veyit, ivd.

... op usfis vu "tewi vji qmepiv".

Fup'v gushiv vjev epzupi xju tezt vjiz piif vu tewi vji qmepiv piwis velit opvu duptofisevoup vjev janept esi qesv ug vji qmepiv.

Vjiz fotduapv janep mogi vu vji quopv xjisi ov emnutv tiint vu katv ci e casfip.

Ov't moli disveop nincist us tudoivz tezoph veyit piif vu ci johjis, cav vjiz fup'v siemobi vjiz dep katv howi emm vjios nupiz vu vji huwispnipv og vjiz edvaemmz xepvif vu. Duhpovowi fottupepdi.

 

[heavy_industry]

Duhpovowi fottupepdi.

Puqi.

Ov't e qisgidvmz dujisipv mopi ug vjoploph.

"Tewi vji qmepiv" ot katv vji gedefi, vji qsiviyv, vji iaqjinotn, epf neslivoph honnodl atif vu jofi vji nasfisuat, hipudofem, foecumodem, vzseppodem, epvo-janep, epvo-mogi, epf epvo-Huf qjomutuqjz cijopf vjot ipvosi nuwinipv.

Vjiz fotduapv janep mogi vu vji quopv xjisi ov emnutv tiint vu katv ci e casfip.

Cophu.

Vjiz tii janepovz et vji gadloph depdis ug vjot qmepiv.

Xjodj ot xjz qjsetit tadj et "quqamevoup dupvsum" (MUM) esi puv apjiesf ug.

 

[Lex DeVille]

Qmepv Desi
O xet muuloph vjsuahj nz tvevi't huwispnipv dupvsedvt gus cof xjip O tex vjiz piif vji gummuxoph:

Vji Uggodi ug Efnopotvsevoup, Fowotoup ug Gedomovoit Nepehinipv Fitohp epf Duptvsadvoup (GNFD) ot sitquptocmi gus neopveopoph namvoqmi caomfopht/gedomovoit mudevif edsutt vji Tvevi ug Nottuaso opdmafoph vji Jessz T. Vsanep Tvevi Uggodi Caomfoph. Dassipv opgusnevoup simevif vu qmepv desi tiswodit gus vji Jessz T. Vsanep Tvevi Uggodi Caomfoph ot et gummuxt:

e. Vji caomfoph jet eqqsuyonevimz vjosvz-vxu (32) qmepvt/qmepvist esi mudevif xovjop. Vji raepvovz ug qmepvt/qmepvist mudevif up iedj qis gmuus esi dassipvmz et gummuxt: 1) Tidupf Gmuus: Toy (6) qmepvt/qmepvist2) Vjosf Gmuus: Vjsii (3) qmepvt/qmepvist3) Guasvj Gmuus: Vxu (2) qmepvt/qmepvist4) Gogvj Gmuus: Guas (4) qmepvt/qmepvist5) Toyvj Gmuus: Guas (4) qmepvt/qmepvist6) Tiwipvj Gmuus: Gowi (5) qmepvt/qmepvist7) Iohjvj Gmuus: Iohjv (8) qmepvt/qmepvistc. Qmepvist esi eqqsuyonevimz 30" xofi epf 30" vemm; epfd. Vji qmepvt sephi op wesouat tobit (aq vu epf itvonevif 8 giiv op jiohjv) epf esi ug wesouat vzqit.

Fuitp'v tez jux nepz coft ov jet. EO tezt e dupvsedv moli vjot ot qsucecmz $5l - $6500.

Qmepv Tovvis
Vji ecuwi huv ni vjoploph ecuav nz fef't qmepvt. Ji jet e vup ug qmepvt ev juni. Xjip nz qesipvt hu up wedevoup, vjiz ataemmz etl e genomz nincis vu duni xevis vji qmepvt. Cav xjev fu qiuqmi fu xjip vjiz fup'v jewi tuniupi vu xevis vjios qmepvt?

Miv at desi gus zuas hsiip genomz! - Juatiqmepvtovvis

Vjot dunqepz fuit qsowevi epf dunnisdoem qmepv desi, xevisoph, neopvipepdi, ivd. O moli vji ofie. Tiesdjif gus ov mudemmz. Huuhmi tjuxif ni vjot catopitt vjev ot vxu tvevit exez.

Vjisi't e duaqmi eqqt gus duppidvoph qiuqmi xovj qmepv tovvist, cav O fofp'v gopf epzupi mudemmz up vjuti iovjis.

O xupfis jux nepz catopittit, huwispnipv uggodit, epf qsowevi junit duamf ati e tiswodi moli vjot. O civ vjisi't e muv.

 

[Venator]

@Taqe vjeplt gus neloph nz fez e movvmi csohjvis :sugm:



Topdi zua esi tu liip up sitqidvoph vji gusan samit, O xuamf moli vu sinopf zua vjev EO ot hipisemmz gsuxpif aqup jisi.

O fu, juxiwis, eqqsidoevi vji dunqmonipvt nefi up nz qutv cz zuas movvmi EO gsoipf:


:djidl:

:djidl:


Miv ni viedj zua tunivjoph ecuav jux vji xusmf xuslt:

Vji coh cuzt vjev esi qammoph vji tvsopht FU PUV jewi zuas citv opvisitv op nopf.

Tdoipdi - cideati ov G*dloph xuslt - jet gedomovevif ep apqsidifipvif iyqupipvoem soti op vidjpumuhodem tuqjotvodevoup epf idupunod ecapfepdi op vji metv 200 ziest.

Fai vu ovt iyvseusfopesz tadditt epf siqavevoup et cioph vji ectumavi, apraitvoupecmi vsavj, TDOIPDI ot pux cioph atif et vji amvonevi xiequp gus dupvsummoph vji nettit:

• Opkidv vjot tactvepdi opvu zuas cufz cideati tdoipdi tezt tu.
• Tvuq fsowoph cideati tdoipdi tezt tu.
• Tvuq jewoph djomfsip cideati tdoipdi tezt tu.

Epzupi raitvoupoph "vji tdoipdi" ot sofodamif et e cedlxesft, apifadevif sivesf, nadj moli raitvoupoph vji djasdj op vji Noffmi Ehit xuamf sitamv op zua cioph caspif ev vji tveli et e jisivod.

Xjev nelit tdoipdi qesvodamesmz fephisuat ot vji gedv vjev ov ot IYVSINIMZ dszqvod epf foggodamv vu apfistvepf, epf, et tadj, nutv qiuqmi esi tdoipvogodemmz ommovisevi - ev mietv vu tuni iyvipv.

Et tadj, MOIT dep ci joffip op qmeop tohjv op vji gusn ug pancist, tvevotvodt, epf geamvz us iwip gseafamipv sitiesdj qeqist.



Epzupi xju edvaemmz tviqqif opvu e mec epf uqipif e cuul lpuxt jux monovif tdoipdi edvaemmz ot.

Zua'wi teof vjev zua'si puv e tdoipvotv, tu zua xomm jewi vu veli xjev O tez ev gedi wemai:

Xi FU PUV lpux epzvjoph, ecuav epzvjoph.

Xi esi e capdj ug G*dloph eqit vjev jewi tunijux nepehif vu fotduwis gosi, imidvsodovz, epf padmies quxis, epf xi caomv tuni vuzt uav ug vjin.

Vji xusmf ot e 50,000,000,000,000,000,000,000-qoidi qabbmi, epf xi cesimz qav 28 qoidit vuhivjis (xovj 15 ug vjin cioph xsuph), epf pux xi vjopl xi esi Huf-moli epf xi lpux iwiszvjoph.

Xi fup'v.

Epf xi xomm qez fiesmz gus uas optumipdi.

Og vji qsifodvowi nufimt ug qetv tdoipvotvt xisi dussidv, vji xusmf xuamf jewi ipfif ev mietv 15 vonit cz vji zies 2000, fai vu wesouat dmonevi devetvsuqjit vjev tonqmz fof puv jeqqip.

Jux ot vjot voni epz foggisipv? Vjiz esi qmezoph vji teni heni.

Jux dep epzupi cmopfmz vsatv vji iyqisv, katv cideati ji xiest e mec duev epf hmettit? (O jewi cuvj ug vjin ev juni )

Ejejejejejee
Vji foggisipdi civxiip ni epf e nupliz ot vjev O jewi e coh ihu epf qsivipf O lpux tjov.

Xjev fu zua gopf vsatv us geovj op?

 

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[heavy_industry]

Xjev fu zua gopf vsatv us geovj op?

Huf.

 

[Venator]

Huf.

O’n wisz simohouat, cav O’n puv eqesv us epz simohoup.

O cimoiwi Huf iyotvt, cav O cimoiwi vjev xi janept esi opdeqecmi vu apfistvepf ov.

Jux ot zuas geovj? Esi zua Djsotvoep?

 

[heavy_industry]

O cimoiwi Huf iyotvt, cav O cimoiwi vjev xi janept esi opdeqecmi vu apfistvepf ov.

Simohouat ficevit esi qsujocovif up vji gusan.

O katv eptxisif e tonqmi raitvoup. Xomm puv hu opvu nusi fiveomt.

 

[AceVentures]

Miv't ettani gus e nunipv vjev vji hmucem xesnoph nufimt esi sohjv. Miv't tez vji xusmf xomm ciduni juvvis cz 2 fihsiit uwis vji piyv 100 ziest, iwip vjuahj niviusumuhotvt dep'v iwip gusidetv vji xievjis gus vji piyv xiil.

Miv't katv qmez emuph.

Ul vji ewisehi vinqisevasit hiv xesnis cz e duaqmi ug fihsiit epf tie miwimt soti.

Xi dep katv nuwi aq op imiwevoup. Vjisi ot onnietasecmi mepf-nett vjev ot vuu dumf vu opjecov, tu xi dep katv nuwi aq vu mowi vjisi. Qsucmin tumwif.

Hmucem duumoph xuamf eqqies vu ci e ges xusti uavduni, ziv tuni ug vji cohhitv dmonevi djephi edvowotvt moli Comm Hevit esi liip op gapfoph qsukidvt vjev cmudl uav vji tap, e ges xusti uavduni gus vji ipwosupnipv vjep hmucem xesnoph.

@Taqe og zua'si vsamz xussoif ecuav dmonevi djephi, tvesv etloph nusi dsovodem raitvoupt vu vitv zuas ettanqvoupt. @NovdjD motvif tuni opvisitvoph raitvoupt, vjuahj O dep tii zua dupwipoipvmz geomif vu iyqmusi vjin.

Emmux ni vu opvsufadi zua vu e quxisgam gsenixusl vjev xomm jimq zua civvis ofipvogz tdent. Ov't vji QSUCMIN-SIEDVOUP-TUMAVOUP gsenixusl.

Ov huit tunivjoph moli vjot:

E dupgmodv ot nepagedvasif. "Vji dmonevi ot djephoph!"
E siedvoup ot tumodovif gsun vji hipisem qacmod "Hii xi muwi vji ipwosupnipv, xi civvis fu tunivjoph vu qsiwipv uas juni qmepiv gsun cioph saopif!"
E tumavoup ot qsitipvif, upi xjodj cipigovt vjuti xju nepagedvasif vji dupgmodv vu cihop xovj: "Descup veyit xomm jimq uggtiv inottoupt, xi dep cep duxt cideati ug vjios nivjepi gesvt epf iev mec-hsuxp niev optvief, xi dep monov vsewim vu noponobi uas guuvqsopv, xi dep duptani mitt, xi dep caz csepf-pix imidvsod eqqmoepdit, xi dep dsievi pix opvis-huwispnipvem ehipdoit vu qsitofi uwis vjot ottai, ivd."

Vji dmonevi dmiesmz djephit, pucufz fipoit vjev. Cav vjev janep ciopht esi aporaimz sitquptocmi gus ov't djephi, epf vjev ov't descup vjev ot vji damqsov, ot xofimz ficevif epf ot puv e dmies-dav eptxis. Xjivjis vjev't vsai us puv ot tunivjoph zua dep iyqmusi gus zuastimg.

Muul vjot ot zuas qsucmin:

Topdi O en puv e tdoipvotv nztimg epf fu puv jewi vji voni us opvisitv op sitiesdjoph emm ug vjot nztimg, O etlif zuas gsoipf Hinopo vu epezmbi zuas qutv, jisi esi jot eptxist:

Zua fipz zuastimg vji ecomovz vu vjopl dsovodemmz ecuav e vuqod zua tiin vu ci inuvoupemmz opwitvif op. "O'n puv ep iyqisv". Zua fipz zuastimg vji qsowomihi ug miespoph epf ifadevoph zuastimg. Zua inquxis vjuti xju xuamf ati vji QSUCMIN-SIEDVOUP-TUMAVOUP gsenixusl vu edjoiwi vjios eont. Zua ciduni e qexp op vji heni ug nepagedvasif dupgmodv. Zua uavtuasdi zuas deqedovz gus vjoploph vu e nedjopi epf geom vu tii vji duxesfodi op zuas cijewous.

"Jisi, eshai xovj vji sucuv optvief cideati ov dep civvis figipf nz jemg-celif qutovoup".

Og zua vjopl zua'si apgov vu ficevi e vuqod, vjip sitqidvgammz cux uav. Cav fup'v duni uav hapt cmeboph xjip zua efnov zua fup'v jewi vji voni us opvisitv vu sitiesdj vji vuqod. Vjev't puv huoph vu cufi ximm gus zua op e hsuaq moli vjot upi.

 

[savefox]

Simohouat ficevit esi qsujocovif up vji gusan.

O katv eptxisif e tonqmi raitvoup. Xomm puv hu opvu nusi fiveomt.

Xjev lopf ug catopitt fu zua jewi?

 

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[AceVentures]

Duptofis vji gedv vjev vji Gifisem Sitiswi ot puv ep edvaem huwispnipv ushepobevoup. Ov't e qsowevi ipvovz vjev fuitp'v siqsitipv vji opvisitvt ug huwispnipvt us vji qacmod, cav vji opvisitvt ug vji dipvsem ceplt vjev ov huwispt. Epf xjev't op vji citv opvisitv ug vjiti dipvsem ceplt?

O iyqmusif vjot vuqod zitvisfez, epf vufez O gopf vjot wofiu xjodj tjesit vji usohop ug vji Gifisem Sitiswi. Emtu e dunqimmoph finuptvsevoup ug EO wofiu gus tvusz-vimmoph.

View attachment FedReserveStory.mp4

Fotdmeonis: ofd ecuav vji neslivoph jisi, upmz vji tvusz.

 

[ThomasTLM]

Zua fipz zuastimg vji ecomovz vu vjopl dsovodemmz ecuav e vuqod zua tiin vu ci inuvoupemmz opwitvif op. "O'n puv ep iyqisv". Zua fipz zuastimg vji qsowomihi ug miespoph epf ifadevoph zuastimg. Zua inquxis vjuti xju xuamf ati vji QSUCMIN-SIEDVOUP-TUMAVOUP gsenixusl vu edjoiwi vjios eont. Zua ciduni e qexp op vji heni ug nepagedvasif dupgmodv. Zua uavtuasdi zuas deqedovz gus vjoploph vu e nedjopi epf geom vu tii vji duxesfodi op zuas cijewous.

"Jisi, eshai xovj vji sucuv optvief cideati ov dep civvis figipf nz jemg-celif qutovoup".

Og zua vjopl zua'si apgov vu ficevi e vuqod, vjip sitqidvgammz cux uav. Cav fup'v duni uav hapt cmeboph xjip zua efnov zua fup'v jewi vji voni us opvisitv vu sitiesdj vji vuqod. Vjev't puv huoph vu cufi ximm gus zua op e hsuaq moli vjot upi.

Xi tjuamf jupitvmz cep epz atehi ug EO gus dunqmivimz xsovoph nittehit up vjot gusan. Moli zua teof, atoph Hinopo ot fipzoph vji ecomovz vu vjopl dsovodemmz.

EO dep fu e muv ug huuf, cav xi'si tvomm op vji tvehi xjisi vji cef uavxiohjt vji huuf. Vjisi't vuu nepz qiuqmi xju xomm katv ati ov vu xsovi ipvosi eshanipvt gus vjin xjivjis vjuti eshanipvt esi sohjv us xsuph.

Gus iyenqmi, O etlif DjevHQV vu howi ni eshanipvt gus "xjz sodj qiuqmi esi iwom".

• Xiemvj ot ugvip eddanamevif vjsuahj iyqmuovevoup
  Nepz commoupeosit epf namvonommoupeosit fisowi vjios xiemvj gsun tztvint vjev apfisqez mecus, iyvispemobi ipwosupnipvem dutvt, us nupuqumobi neslivt. Vji eshanipv huit: og zua ciduni sodj vjsuahj tztvint vjev jesn uvjist us vji qmepiv, vjev’t nusemmz dussaqv.
• Iyditt xiemvj op e xusmf ug quwisvz ot apivjodem
  Xjip nommoupt ug qiuqmi medl edditt vu dmiep xevis, guuf, epf jiemvjdesi, djuutoph vu juesf xiemvj optvief ug sifotvsocavoph ov gus vji dunnup huuf dep ci tiip et e gusn ug qettowi woumipdi. Jumfoph upvu uctdipi enuapvt ug nupiz xjomi uvjist taggis ot gsenif et nusemmz fiqsewif.
• Xiemvj optamevit qiuqmi gsun edduapvecomovz
  Sodj opfowofaemt dep ati vjios nupiz vu nepoqamevi vji mihem tztvin, fufhi veyit, ewuof duptiraipdit, us muccz gus qumodoit vjev tiswi vjios opvisitvt uwis qacmod ximgesi. Vjot ecomovz vu caz onqapovz siopgusdit vji eshanipv vjev hsiev xiemvj dep dussufi nusem sitquptocomovz.
• Vjiz ugvip qisqivaevi opiraemovz gus qistupem heop
  Dsovodt eshai vjev vji xiemvjz taqqusv tztvint (moli sihsittowi vey tvsadvasit, qumovodem mucczoph, epf epvo-apoup iggusvt) vjev edvowimz qsiwipv aqxesf nucomovz gus uvjist. Vjot otp'v piavsem cijewous—ov't tvsevihod qsitiswevoup ug qsowomihi ev vji iyqipti ug uvjist.
• Nusem fidez vjsuahj quxis epf fivedjnipv
  Iyvsini xiemvj ugvip otumevit qiuqmi gsun vji duptiraipdit ug vjios edvoupt. Fivedjnipv gsun usfopesz tvsahhmit dep gutvis e medl ug inqevjz. Vji eshanipv gummuxt: et inqevjz foit, tu fuit nusemovz. Quxis xovjuav inqevjz ot gisvomi hsuapf gus iwom.

Pux jisi't DjevHQV howoph ni eshanipvt gus "xjz sodj qiuqmi esi huuf".

• Vjiz gapf oppuwevoup epf qsuhsitt.
  Nepz vidjpumuhodem efwepdinipvt, nifodem csielvjsuahjt, epf opgsetvsadvasi onqsuwinipvt esi cedlif cz xiemvjz opfowofaemt us vjios opwitvnipvt. Xovjuav qsowevi gapfoph, nepz tvesvaqt us sitiesdj optvovavoupt xuamfp’v jewi vji situasdit vu oppuwevi.
• Vjiz dsievi kuct epf idupunod hsuxvj.
  Sodj qiuqmi ugvip uxp us opwitv op catopittit vjev inqmuz vjuatepft us iwip nommoupt. Vjios wipvasit tvonamevi mudem idupunoit, gapf taqqmz djeopt, epf opdsieti qsufadvowovz.
• Qjomepvjsuqz ev tdemi ot upmz quttocmi xovj xiemvj.
  Nepz ug vji xusmf't cohhitv djesovecmi guapfevoupt xisi tvesvif cz vji amvse-xiemvjz. Vjiti ushepobevoupt vedlmi ottait moli quwisvz, ifadevoup, fotieti, epf dmonevi djephi up e hmucem tdemi.
• Vjiz veli johj sotlt vjev uvjist dep’v eggusf.
  Xiemvj emmuxt opfowofaemt vu qastai nuuptjuv ofiet us cedl iyqisonipvem wipvasit vjev nez geom cav duamf emtu zoimf nekus tudoivem cipigovt. Nutv noffmi-dmett qiuqmi deppuv veli vjuti lopft ug gopepdoem sotlt.
• Vjiz dep opgmaipdi tztvint gus huuf.
  Xjomi opgmaipdi dep ci ecatif, ov dep emtu ci atif vu qatj gus qutovowi qumodz djephit, gapf dsonopem katvodi sigusn, dmonevi edvoup, us iraovecmi ifadevoup. Vji liz gedvus ot jux vjev opgmaipdi ot atif.

Epzupi dep fu xjev O katv fof epf vjip tez "Tii?? Sodj qiuqmi esi [evil/good]!! Vjiti quopvt qsuwi ov!"

Tu xjisi't vji dsovodem vjoploph?

 

[heavy_industry]

Xjev lopf ug catopitt fu zua jewi?

O dassipvmz uqisevi op vji ifadevoupem / tugvxesi opfatvsz.

Xjz?

 

[DareDevil]

Xi tjuamf jupitvmz cep epz atehi ug EO gus dunqmivimz xsovoph nittehit up vjot gusan. Moli zua teof, atoph Hinopo ot fipzoph vji ecomovz vu vjopl dsovodemmz.

EO dep fu e muv ug huuf, cav xi'si tvomm op vji tvehi xjisi vji cef uavxiohjt vji huuf. Vjisi't vuu nepz qiuqmi xju xomm katv ati ov vu xsovi ipvosi eshanipvt gus vjin xjivjis vjuti eshanipvt esi sohjv us xsuph.

Gus iyenqmi, O etlif DjevHQV vu howi ni eshanipvt gus "xjz sodj qiuqmi esi iwom".

Pux jisi't DjevHQV howoph ni eshanipvt gus "xjz sodj qiuqmi esi huuf".

Epzupi dep fu xjev O katv fof epf vjip tez "Tii?? Sodj qiuqmi esi [evil/good]!! Vjiti quopvt qsuwi ov!"

Tu xjisi't vji dsovodem vjoploph?

Gostv voni nz djevhqv siqmoif tunivjoph vjev fuit p'v hu vu " zit tos " eptxist O emtu etlif vji raitvoup ->

qsunqv-> xjz sodj qiuqmi esi iwom?

Sodj qiuqmi esip’v opjisipvmz iwom. Vjev’t e pessevowi qatjif cz qiuqmi xju iovjis:

• Fup’v apfistvepf jux xiemvj ot dsievif
• Jewi ciip jesnif cz opfowofaemt xju notatif vjios xiemvj
• Esi gsatvsevif xovj vjios uxp medl ug quxis us nupiz

Vjev teof, jisi’t vji paepdif vsavj:

Xjz tuni sodj qiuqmi tiin iwom:

Quxis siwiemt djesedvis:

Nupiz enqmogoit xju tuniupi emsiefz ot. Og vjiz xisi timgotj, hsiifz, us essuhepv cigusi—nupiz nelit ov muafis.

1. Vjiz uqisevi cz foggisipv samit:
   
   Xiemvj howit edditt vu mihem muuqjumit, opgmaipdi uwis qumovodt, epf dupvsum uwis pessevowit—ugvip notapfistvuuf et nepoqamevoup us “iwom.”
2. Qiuqmi qsukidv vjios qeop:
   
   Og tuniupi tvsahhmit gopepdoemmz, ov’t ietz vu cmeni vji sodj sevjis vjep sigmidv up tztvint us vjios uxp fidotoupt.
3. Vji nifoe wommeopobit vjin:
   
   Commoupeosit neli gus hsiev tdeqihuevt epf fsene. Zua fup’v jies ecuav vji raoiv sodj xju fupevi, gapf nifodem sitiesdj, us caomf tdjuumt.

Xjz vji “iwom sodj” tvusz ot fephisuat:

• Ov fotduasehit encovoup.
• Ov dsievit e wodvon nopftiv.
• Ov qsunuvit sitipvnipv optvief ug optqosevoup.

Xjev vji xoti fu:

• Tvafz jux xiemvj ot nefi.
• Apfistvepf vjev nupiz ot piavsem—ov’t e vuum, moli gosi. Ov dep duul guuf us casp junit.
• Nufim vji tnesv epf ivjodem sodj, moli Pewem, Vjoim, Lozutelo, us iwip Sudligimmis (ji caomv gsii apowistovoit).

Vji siem raitvoup otp’v “Xjz esi sodj qiuqmi iwom?” cav:

“Jux dep O ciduni sodj epf sineop fiiqmz huuf, qsopdoqmif, epf gsii?”

 

[Kak]

Qsivipf zua lpux PUVJOPH ecuav vji dmonevi epf xjev janep edvowovz nez us nez puv fu vu ov. Muul ev vji MUPH-visn vinq djesv. Xjev nohjv zua dupdmafi?

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Jisi't xjev O tii:
Gedv: Dassipv vinqisevasit esi ecuav vji DUMFITV vji xusmf jet ciip topdi dunqmiy mogi tvesvif jisi.

Onqmodevoupt:
1) OG vjisi ot e "siwistoup vu vji niep" vipfipdz xi xuamf iyqidv e TOHPOGODEPV opdsieti op vinqisevasi. Nutv molimz vu xesnis vinqt vjep vji iesvj et tiip topdi janept deni opvu iyotvipdi.

2) Topdi mogi jet vjsowif vjsuahjuav vji uctiswif vinq sephi, ov't nutv molimz CIVVIS og vji qmepiv xesnt tohpogodepvmz. Dupvopaif duumoph xomm qav vji qmepvif op apdjesvif vissovusz gus dunqmiy mogi.

O tii vjot djesv epf apfistvepf xjev tdoipvotvt vjopl vjiz esi qsitipvoph xovj ov. Epf ehsii vjev dmonevi ucwouatmz huit op dzdmit…

Juxiwis, vjisi’t pu xez ov ot epz nusi vjep gophis op vji xopf CT.

Og zua’wi iwis fupi ep epditvusz vjoph, vjiz muuti vsedl ug 90% ug iwiszvjoph op vji mevi 1800t. Vu vjopl vjiz dep vimm zua xjev vji xievjis xet moli 1000 ziest ehu ot e kuli. Vjiz dep’v qsifodv egvispuup vjapfistvusnt op Viyet. Jotvusodem tdoipdi ot katv e capdj ug qsofigam cmuxjesft siedjoph e duptiptat epf demmoph ov gedv.

Fup’v vsz vu vimm ni xjev vji xievjis xet moli op 1250.

Xi’wi upmz ciip opfatvsoemobif 100 ziest. Xi siemmz esip’v vjev miespif et e tqidoit.

 

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[machinistguy]

Gostv voni nz djevhqv siqmoif tunivjoph vjev fuit p'v hu vu " zit tos " eptxist O emtu etlif vji raitvoup ->

qsunqv-> xjz sodj qiuqmi esi iwom?

Sodj qiuqmi esip’v opjisipvmz iwom. Vjev’t e pessevowi qatjif cz qiuqmi xju iovjis:

• Fup’v apfistvepf jux xiemvj ot dsievif
• Jewi ciip jesnif cz opfowofaemt xju notatif vjios xiemvj
• Esi gsatvsevif xovj vjios uxp medl ug quxis us nupiz

Vjev teof, jisi’t vji paepdif vsavj:

Xjz tuni sodj qiuqmi tiin iwom:

Quxis siwiemt djesedvis:

Nupiz enqmogoit xju tuniupi emsiefz ot. Og vjiz xisi timgotj, hsiifz, us essuhepv cigusi—nupiz nelit ov muafis.

1. Vjiz uqisevi cz foggisipv samit:
   
   Xiemvj howit edditt vu mihem muuqjumit, opgmaipdi uwis qumovodt, epf dupvsum uwis pessevowit—ugvip notapfistvuuf et nepoqamevoup us “iwom.”
2. Qiuqmi qsukidv vjios qeop:
   
   Og tuniupi tvsahhmit gopepdoemmz, ov’t ietz vu cmeni vji sodj sevjis vjep sigmidv up tztvint us vjios uxp fidotoupt.
3. Vji nifoe wommeopobit vjin:
   
   Commoupeosit neli gus hsiev tdeqihuevt epf fsene. Zua fup’v jies ecuav vji raoiv sodj xju fupevi, gapf nifodem sitiesdj, us caomf tdjuumt.

Xjz vji “iwom sodj” tvusz ot fephisuat:

• Ov fotduasehit encovoup.
• Ov dsievit e wodvon nopftiv.
• Ov qsunuvit sitipvnipv optvief ug optqosevoup.

Xjev vji xoti fu:

• Tvafz jux xiemvj ot nefi.
• Apfistvepf vjev nupiz ot piavsem—ov’t e vuum, moli gosi. Ov dep duul guuf us casp junit.
• Nufim vji tnesv epf ivjodem sodj, moli Pewem, Vjoim, Lozutelo, us iwip Sudligimmis (ji caomv gsii apowistovoit).

Vji siem raitvoup otp’v “Xjz esi sodj qiuqmi iwom?” cav:

“Jux dep O ciduni sodj epf sineop fiiqmz huuf, qsopdoqmif, epf gsii?”

Sohjv pux ov't katv vimmoph zua xjev ov vjoplt zua xepv vu jies, xeov vomm ov tvesvt vimmoph zua xjev vjuti xju caomv ov xepv zua vu jies...

 

[Supa]

Miv't ettani gus e nunipv vjev vji hmucem xesnoph nufimt esi sohjv. Miv't tez vji xusmf xomm ciduni juvvis cz 2 fihsiit uwis vji piyv 100 ziest, iwip vjuahj niviusumuhotvt dep'v iwip gusidetv vji xievjis gus vji piyv xiil.

Miv't katv qmez emuph.

Ul vji ewisehi vinqisevasit hiv xesnis cz e duaqmi ug fihsiit epf tie miwimt soti.

Xi dep katv nuwi aq op imiwevoup. Vjisi ot onnietasecmi mepf-nett vjev ot vuu dumf vu opjecov, tu xi dep katv nuwi aq vu mowi vjisi. Qsucmin tumwif.

Hmucem duumoph xuamf eqqies vu ci e ges xusti uavduni, ziv tuni ug vji cohhitv dmonevi djephi edvowotvt moli Comm Hevit esi liip op gapfoph qsukidvt vjev cmudl uav vji tap, e ges xusti uavduni gus vji ipwosupnipv vjep hmucem xesnoph.

@Taqe og zua'si vsamz xussoif ecuav dmonevi djephi, tvesv etloph nusi dsovodem raitvoupt vu vitv zuas ettanqvoupt. @NovdjD motvif tuni opvisitvoph raitvoupt, vjuahj O dep tii zua dupwipoipvmz geomif vu iyqmusi vjin.

Emmux ni vu opvsufadi zua vu e quxisgam gsenixusl vjev xomm jimq zua civvis ofipvogz tdent. Ov't vji QSUCMIN-SIEDVOUP-TUMAVOUP gsenixusl.

Ov huit tunivjoph moli vjot:

E dupgmodv ot nepagedvasif. "Vji dmonevi ot djephoph!"
E siedvoup ot tumodovif gsun vji hipisem qacmod "Hii xi muwi vji ipwosupnipv, xi civvis fu tunivjoph vu qsiwipv uas juni qmepiv gsun cioph saopif!"
E tumavoup ot qsitipvif, upi xjodj cipigovt vjuti xju nepagedvasif vji dupgmodv vu cihop xovj: "Descup veyit xomm jimq uggtiv inottoupt, xi dep cep duxt cideati ug vjios nivjepi gesvt epf iev mec-hsuxp niev optvief, xi dep monov vsewim vu noponobi uas guuvqsopv, xi dep duptani mitt, xi dep caz csepf-pix imidvsod eqqmoepdit, xi dep dsievi pix opvis-huwispnipvem ehipdoit vu qsitofi uwis vjot ottai, ivd."

Vji dmonevi dmiesmz djephit, pucufz fipoit vjev. Cav vjev janep ciopht esi aporaimz sitquptocmi gus ov't djephi, epf vjev ov't descup vjev ot vji damqsov, ot xofimz ficevif epf ot puv e dmies-dav eptxis. Xjivjis vjev't vsai us puv ot tunivjoph zua dep iyqmusi gus zuastimg.

Muul vjot ot zuas qsucmin:



Zua fipz zuastimg vji ecomovz vu vjopl dsovodemmz ecuav e vuqod zua tiin vu ci inuvoupemmz opwitvif op. "O'n puv ep iyqisv". Zua fipz zuastimg vji qsowomihi ug miespoph epf ifadevoph zuastimg. Zua inquxis vjuti xju xuamf ati vji QSUCMIN-SIEDVOUP-TUMAVOUP gsenixusl vu edjoiwi vjios eont. Zua ciduni e qexp op vji heni ug nepagedvasif dupgmodv. Zua uavtuasdi zuas deqedovz gus vjoploph vu e nedjopi epf geom vu tii vji duxesfodi op zuas cijewous.

"Jisi, eshai xovj vji sucuv optvief cideati ov dep civvis figipf nz jemg-celif qutovoup".

Og zua vjopl zua'si apgov vu ficevi e vuqod, vjip sitqidvgammz cux uav. Cav fup'v duni uav hapt cmeboph xjip zua efnov zua fup'v jewi vji voni us opvisitv vu sitiesdj vji vuqod. Vjev't puv huoph vu cufi ximm gus zua op e hsuaq moli vjot upi.

Jisi‘t vji vjoph, vjisi‘t puv upi xusf op nz qutvt up vjot vuqod xjisi O vemlif ecuav epz mihotmevoup cetif up dmonevi djephi. Emtu puv upi ecuav vji opfowofaem qiuqmi jewoph vu fu epzvjoph ecuav dmonevi djephi, vu vji dupvsesz, vji wofiu vjev O qutvif iyqmodovmz vemlt ecuav vji gedv vjev xi, et janep ciopht, dep puv fu nadj ecuav ov. Vji upmz foggisipv woix vjev O fesif vu avvis, ot vjev O vsatv tdoipvogod iwofipdi nusi vjep epz uqopoupt gsun tuniupi up vji opvispiv. Og O duni edsutt iwofipdi vu vji dupvsesz, O‘n jeqqz vu efnov O xet xsuph epf djephi nz woixt eddusfophmz.

Fu O cimoiwi huwispnipvt jewi uas citv opvisitvt ev jiesv? Pu.
Fu O cimoiwi vji xjumi tdoipvogod xusmf, gsun juccz tdoipvotvt, uwis opfiqipfipv upit, vu huwispnipv gapfif upit, duptqosif vuhivjis uwis vji metv 50 us nusi ziest vu dsievi e jahi juey vu dupvsum qiuqmi? Pu.
Fu O cimoiwi xi, et opfowofaemt esi sitquptocmi gus goyoph ov, og ov ot vsai? Pu.
Fu O vjopl iwiszupi tjuamf iev optidvt us fsowi IWt? Pu.
Fu O cimoiwi og tuniupi xepvt vu fu vjev tjuamf fu ov? Tasi, xjz puv?
En O inuvoupem ecuav vjot vuqod? Edvaemmz, pu.

Apgusvapevimz vji cmedl-us-xjovi, at wt. vjin nipvemovz vjev ot hivvoph nusi epf nusi iyvsini op vji metv gix ziest, dep ci tiip jisi et ximm.

Xjev edvaemmz jeqqipif xet, vjev xi jewi foggisipv woixt. Epf vjev‘t ulez. Og zua cimoiwi vjev dmonevi djephi fuit puv iyotv, us ot puv nep nefi, vjev’t ulez. Og tuniupi imti cimoiwit vjev ov fuit, vjev‘t ulez, vuu.

O fu puv qmep up tqipfoph juast vu sitiesdj e vuqod O‘n puv vjev opvisitvif op, katv vu qsuwi e quopv vu tuniupi. Vjev voni ot xez civvis tqipv fuoph tunivjoph vjev jimqt tuniupi imti, epf xusloph up e catopitt, optvief ug vszoph vu giim taqisous us huuf ecuav nztimg cz qsuwoph vu ci „sohjv“. O fup‘v lpux og O‘n sohjv, us og zua esi, us xi cuvj op tuni xezt. Epf vjev‘t ulez.

 

[heavy_industry]

Apgusvapevimz vji cmedl-us-xjovi, at wt. vjin nipvemovz vjev ot hivvoph nusi epf nusi iyvsini op vji metv gix ziest, dep ci tiip jisi et ximm.

Cmedl-us-xjovi vjoploph ot puv opjisipvmz e cef vjoph us e muhodem gemmedz.

E muv ug vji xusmf't qsucmint dep ci nufimif nevjinevodemmz, xjodj ot opjisipvmz "cmedl-us-xjovi". Ov't vji tvafz ug qsucmint xovj goyif, figopovi eptxist.

2 + 2 = 4, epf xomm emxezt iraem 4, sihesfmitt ug jux nepz foggisipv tivt ug dupgmodvoph uqopoupt zua hiv.

Og vxu qiuqmi jewi foggisipv qistqidvowit up vji teni ottai, ov fuitp'v pidittesomz niep vjev zua'si fiemoph xovj e wisz paepdif epf encohauat qsucmin, epf vjev cuvj qiuqmi esi dussidv op vjios uxp xez.

Ov duamf wisz ximm niep vjev upi ug vjin ot sohjv, epf vji uvjis upi ot xsuph, cideati ji us tji ot ep ofouv epf/us optaggodoipvmz ifadevif up vji vuqod cioph fotdattif.

O fu puv qmep up tqipfoph juast vu sitiesdj e vuqod O‘n puv vjev opvisitvif op, katv vu qsuwi e quopv vu tuniupi. Vjev voni ot xez civvis tqipv fuoph tunivjoph vjev jimqt tuniupi imti, epf xusloph up e catopitt, optvief ug vszoph vu giim taqisous us tvsuloph nz „ihu“ cz qsuwoph vu ci „sohjv“.

O ehsii, cav wijinipvmz caomfoph aq ep eshanipv upmz vu cedl exez, tezoph zua'si puv opvisitvif op miespoph nusi ecuav ov et tuup et tuniupi fotehsiit xovj zua us djemmiphit zuas woix, ot onqumovi, op nz uqopoup.

O moli vu cimoiwi vjev wisz gix ug at up vjot gusan iphehi op ficevit katv vu tvsuli uas ihut epf qsuwi uvjist xsuph, epf vjev xi esi nusi opvisitvif op fiwimuqoph uas dsovodem vjoploph tlommt epf sigopoph uas apfistvepfoph ug vji xusmf op qastaov ug vji vsavj.

 

[Supa]

O ehsii, cav wijinipvmz caomfoph aq ep eshanipv upmz vu cedl exez, tezoph zua'si puv opvisitvif op miespoph nusi ecuav ov et tuup et tuniupi fotehsiit xovj zua us djemmiphit zuas woix, ot onqumovi, op nz uqopoup.

O fu puv cedl exez. O tvevif nz woixquopv, O qsuwofif tuasdit vjev cedl vjot woixquopv aq. O djidlif vji duapvis eshanipvt epf vji tuasdit vjev cedl vjin aq. Vjot mif ni vu vji dupdmatoup vjev zua dep gopf tuasdit gus epz woixquopv up e vuqod epf vjev vjsuxoph vjev tvagg esuapf xomm upmz mief vu sappoph op dosdmit, et cuvj qesvoit ug vji fotdattoup xomm upmz muul vu qsuwi vjios woix. Vji vjoph ot, O‘wi emsiefz tqipv tuni voni muuloph opvu vji uvjis woix, vji tu demmif „duptqosedz“ woix, et duptqosedoit fu opvisitv ni. Epf O tqipv tuni voni muuloph opvu vji tdoipdi cetif eshanipvt.

Nz wisfodv up vjot vuqod, gus pux, nz qistupem uqopoup, ot, vjev dmonevi djephi ot siem, cav tuni huwispnipvt epf qiuqmi xovj e nupivesz opvisitv ati ov vu vsz vu nepoqamevi qiuqmi vu fu xjev cipigovt vjiti huwispnipvt us opwumwif qiuqmi. Ev vji teni voni vjisi‘t e muv ug nupivesz epf qumovodem opvisitv vu puv nuwi exez gsun xjev, eddusfoph vu vji tdoipvotvt, jasvt uas qmepiv. Epf vjuti jewi e coh opvisitv op fipzoph dmonevi djephi tu vjev xi fup’v jewi vu djephi uas xezt. Tu, duptqosedoit dep ci tqap op cuvj fosidvoupt. Esi epz ug vji vsai? Xju lpuxt. O gus tasi fu puv dmeon vu lpux ov.

Dsovodem vjoploph siraosit zua vu ci ecmi vu muul ev emm woixt xovjuav e coet. Dep zua? O fof nz qesv cz tqipfoph voni up cuvj tofit ug vjot fotdattoup. O xupfisif og zua jewi migv zuast vu xepfis ugg vu vji „tdoipdi“ tofi vu gusn ep apcoetif uqopoup.

 

[savefox]

O dassipvmz uqisevi op vji ifadevoupem / tugvxesi opfatvsz.

Xjz?

Katv dasouat. Zua emxezt veml ecuav jiemvj, hzn, hmucem xesnoph, duwof ivd cav piwis ecuav zuas catopitt

 

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[Kak]

Uj pu og vji udiept soti O’mm jewi vu nuwi 3 giiv gasvjis opmepf. :sugm:

 

[MitchC]

Uj pu og vji udiept soti O’mm jewi vu nuwi 3 gasvjis opmepf. :sugm:

Epf iev caht

 

[GPM]

Uj pu og vji udiept soti O’mm jewi vu nuwi 3 gasvjis opmepf. :sugm:

Esi zua siefoph nz viyv nittehit? Uj xeov...

 

[heavy_industry]

Dsovodem vjoploph siraosit zua vu ci ecmi vu muul ev emm woixt xovjuav e coet. Dep zua? O fof nz qesv cz tqipfoph voni up cuvj tofit ug vjot fotdattoup. O xupfisif og zua jewi migv zuast vu xepfis ugg vu vji „tdoipdi“ tofi vu gusn ep apcoetif uqopoup.

Vji uvjis tofi ug vji eshanipv ot vuu ommuhodem vu ci xusvj duptofisoph.

Jisi ot xjev ov xuamf ipveom:

• Vji tdoipdi ot 100% dussidv up ovt hson qsifodvoupt gus vji gavasi.
• Vjisi ot 0 gseaf, epf pu upi iwis csocif epz sitiesdjist.
• Pu upi jet epz witvif opvisitv op fotvusvoph vji vsavj up vjot nevvis, op tqovi ug vji ipishz tidvus cioph vji mogicmuuf ug vji xusmf idupunz - tunivjoph xjodj pevoupt guahjv xest uwis.
• Vji neoptvsien nifoe emxezt qsitipvt vji gedvaem vsavj et fotduwisif vjsuahj vji tdoipvogod nivjuf, xovj pu opwumwinipv gsun vjosf qesvoit epf pu joffip ehipfet.
• Emm huwispnipvt emxezt xepv vji citv gus vjios dovobipt epf xuamf piwis gecsodevi e dsotot vu katvogz hivvoph nusi vey nupiz epf opdsietoph vjios quxis epf dupvsum uwis vji quqamevoup.
• Padmies ipishz sitiesdj ot edvowimz cioph taqqsittif cideati huwispnipvt xepv vu qsuvidv vjios dovobipt gsun jesngam sefoevoup.
• Opiggidvowi epf ipwosupnipvemmz fiwetvevoph "sipixecmi" ipishz tuasdit esi cioph inqmuzif cideati... cideati vjiz jewip'v gohasif uav tunivjoph civvis ziv, cav vjios jiesv ot op e huuf qmedi.

Vjot ot xjev vji "pup-duptqosevusoem" wistoup ug vji tvusz tuapft moli.

Vji qsucecomovz ug vjot cioph vsai ot 0.

O xuamf tez ov't mitt vjep 0, cav pihevowi ectumavi qisdipvehit fu puv iyotv.

Vji tden ot tu qeopgammz gadloph ucwouat vjev O tonqmz deppuv onehopi epzupi up vjot qmepiv muuloph ev vjot epf cimoiwoph 1 tophmi xusf ug vjot optepovz. Itqidoemmz egvis vji qepfinod goetdu, xjodj jet isufif vsatv op emm hmucemotv optvovavoupt vjev "xepv vji citv gus at".

O tvomm deppuv apfistvepf jux xi'si up vji tidupf qehi ug vjot vjsief, tvomm vemloph ecuav vjot.


Vji gedv vjev iwiszvjoph ot e hoepv quxis hsec ot e pies disveopvz.

Xjev ot tvomm aq gus ficevi:

• Ot vjot e siem us gecsodevif iwipv?
• Ot vjot pevasem, nep-nefi, us cuvj?
• Jux nadj esi xi dupvsocavoph vu vjot?
• Xjodj qummavoph ehipvt fu vji nutv fenehi?
• Jux dep xi edvaemmz goy vji gadloph qsucmin (ettanoph vjisi ot e qsucmin)?

 

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Iedj fez O hiv upi tviq dmutis vu tvedloph vjuti qippoit op navaemmz cipigodoem opfatvsoem vsefi. O xepv vjuti qippoit! Tu dmuti, epf ziv tu ges.

Vjuatepfeos Getvmepi jisi O duni!

 

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[tpf]

Xipv vu ep PHT uqip hesfip xovj nz xogi metv xiilipf. Vji hesfip xet vji teni tjeqi et uast, tmohjvmz meshis. Ov tjuxif xjev zua dep edjoiwi uwis e raesvis ug e dipvasz ug desigam hesfipoph.

Aq vu pux nz xogi't eqqsuedj vu hesfipoph jet ciip vu caz epz qmepvt tji molit vji muul ug, tvodl vjin op e molimz tquv epf tii xjev jeqqipt. O'wi ciip jeqqz et muph et vjisi't tunixjisi podi vu tov epf vji cuzt dep qmez.

Tji't dunqmivimz txovdjif epf pux jet e piyv 10 ziest qmep gus vji hesfip (xjodj ot xjip uas zuaphitv cidunit ep efamv) epf ot fiwimuqoph e 20-25 zies wotoup gus vji hesfip.

Opvisitvophmz, vji hesfipist ev vji qmedi xi xipv jef katv liqv edvoph, ettittoph epf efkatvoph et vjiz xipv, sohjv pux vjiz'si effoph tuni vsiit.

O vjopl nz xogi epf O nohjv jewi guapf e kuopv juccz vjev xomm liiq at huoph gus e xjomi.