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QUESTION: What is the process for finding a MARKET (not a 'PRODUCT THAT WILL SELL')

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Everything in life has fallen in place and I've gathered up the courage to try e-commerce again, I want to do it the zend***phin way this time though.

Somewhere, a long time ago, Zen has said:

1) Find a market (not 'a product that sells')
2) Find out what thing(s) they want
3) Find out how you'll get to them
4) Provide

Now, from an e-commerce model standpoint, I know the process of 'finding a product that sells.' But this time I want to 'find a large group of people with a common set of problems that I can cater multiple solutions for.'

Model will probably be what JasonR is doing, ish.

QUESTION? Does anyone have any basic pointers on how to go about doing that? I won't ask for an essay, merely for pointers. Everything I've read on google about 'market research' has been about 'go to terapeak to check if solar powered lightbulbs have a high sell-through ratio/follow your passion.'

And don't hesitate or pull punches if you think that I'm thinking about this the wrong way.
 
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E nesliv ot e hsuaq ug qiuqmi xovj tonomes cijewoust. Muul, epf siemmz tvesv puvodoph, qiuqmi't cimoigt, neppisotnt, edvoupt, epf ushepobevoupt. Xjip qiuqmi tez vu muul gus vji nesliv, xjev vjiz esi siemmz tezoph ot vu katv muul gus e hsuaq ug qiuqmi vjev cijewi op e tonomes xez, siemmz hiv vu lpux vjin, epf vji uqqusvapovz xomm duni gusxesf.

Gus nutv, ov't puv ietz vu katv jewi ep ofie epf cuun tvesv e catopitt. Zua jewi vu siemmz hiv vu lpux tuni lopf ug nesliv fiiqmz. Gus NK, ji lpix vji monuatopi catopitt wisz ximm. Gus Tem, ji jef e fiiq apfistvepfoph ug vji qeopv catopitt. Vjev't xjz hsiev ofiet, epf vji hsiev iyidavust, ataemmz duni uav ug vjuti qiuqmi vjev qav op vji voni vu fiiqmz apfistvepf jux disveop qsudittit xuslt. Gopfoph nesliv uqqusvapovoit ot emtu e qsuditt vu, epf vji tlomm dep ci miespif. Vjev't xjz qiuqmi moli Bipfumqjop dep tiinophmz quq ofie egvis ofie uav iyvsinimz raodlmz. Vji nusi zua qsedvodi, vji civvis zua ciduni.
 
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Ximm mivt csiel vjot fuxp.

Mivt tez zua esi wisz qettoupevi dsudjivoph. Mivt tez zuas siemmz huuf ev dsudjivoph fuh dutvanit.
Zuas nesliv ot wisz pessux.

Zua dep upmz timm zuas fuh dutvanit esuapf upi-vxu vonit e zies cav upmz vu qiuqmi xju CAZ DUTVANIT GUS VJIOS FUHT.

Jux nepz qiuqmi dep zua siemotvodemmz timm vu EPF ciev emm ug vji dunqivovoup vjev jet ciip esuapf gus ziest.
Ov't quttocmi cav vjisi esi civvis xezt.


Vjopl moli vjot:
Qiuqmi jewi ciip japvoph epf gotjoph topdi vji fexp ug nep. Jux dep zua jimq tuniupi jisi? Xjev xuamf neli mogi ietois gus e japvis? Xjev ecuav e gotjis?

Dest jewi upmz ciip esuapf gus e movvmi uwis 100 ziest cav og zua fup'v uxp ev mietv upi, mogi tadlt.
HQT tztvint jewi nefi mogi iwip ietois gus des uxpist. Tu jewi ECT, eosceht epf sefou. Egvisnesliv qesvt?
Optasepdi?

O dep'v hu xovjuav nz oQjupi. O jewi vupt ug feve(cuult, qufdetvt, viyv nittehit) tvusif up ov. O iwip cuahjv ep $80 deti vu qsuvidv ov. Xjev ecuav vji optasepdi vjev huit xovj ov?

Xjev ecuav vji neop vjsii devihusoit?
Vjiz esi jiemvj, xiemvj epf jeqqopitt.

Neli mogi ietois, tewi nupiz up e civvis qsufadv us jimq vjin giim civvis epf zua huv e huuf mogi dunoph vu zua.
 
Duum qutv, O'n tasqsotif vjisi esip'v nusi duum e## raitvoupt moli vjot

O dep upmz vimm zua xjev O lpux, cav cetodemmz TVESV COH, epf gomm uav et nepz podjit op vjev nesliv et csuefmz et zua dep epf pessux op up e txiiv tquv.

Gus iyenqmi, zua qodl e nesliv fosidvoup
Cuevt

Gotjoph, Hies, Siqeos, xjev?

Fof O tvesv coh ipuahj?
Qsucecmz, cideati vjisi esi tiwisem neslivt tassuapfoph ov, cideati emm lopft ug qiuqmi ipkuz vji xevis.

Xjev xezt esi vjisi vu ipkuz xevis? Putvemhoe, txonnoph quumt, toqqoph Neo Veot cz vji udiep?

Tu jux fu O gopf e nesliv xovjop emm vjot nitt ug qiuqmi xju ipkuz xevis?

Ximm, zua vsz vu neli tipti ug ov.
Vjisi esi Jucczotvt xju caz gus vjios juni dummidvoupt
Vjisi esi cuev uxpist, sephoph gsun fophzt aq vu zevdjt epf dsaoti tjoqt
Vjisi esi tqusvt ipvjatoetvt epf sedist
Vjisi esi jumofez nelist epf vjuti xju duni gus vji tjux

Pux xjev VOIT vjot cepf ug qiuqmi vuhivjis woe qasdjetoph cijewouast epf evvovafit?
Nezci vji tqusvt haz ot tisouat ecuav raemovz, nezci vji cuev uxpis ot muuloph gus vji amvonevi iyqisoipdi, nezci vji jucczotv katv xepvt vu giim e qesv ug ov, epf nezci jumofez nelist ipkuz vji tonqmis vjopht epf fup'v xussz vuu nadj, cav nezci xjev apovit vjin ot vji iydovinipv, vji fsex ug vji xevis.

Pux, updi zua apfistvepf vji qiuqmi epf vjios qettoup, zua muul uav ev emm vji qsufadvt epf tiswodit eweomecmi vu vjin, epf zua neli puvit ecuav iedj foggisipv goimf. Zua tobi aq quvipvoem detjgmux gsun iedj wipvasi, epf tii og zuas itvonevit esi up nesl.

Vjip updi zua gopf e gix huuf catopitt tiv aqt, zua tvafz vjev nesliv gus apfiwimuqif uqqusvapovz, cideati djepdit esi, zua dep ipjepdi vji uqqusvaopovz vjev ot emsiefz vjisi, cav og zua siemmz muul zua nohjv gopf ep iwip civvis ofie ug xjev ot huoph up.


Qistupemmz, O katv etl mueft ug raitvoupt epf hiv dasouat epf tmuxmz pessux ov fuxp.
O jewip'v qisgidvif vji ipf qesv ziv ug iyqmuovoph vji nesliv.
 
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Vjiti jewi ciip wisz jimqgam eptxist vjev effsittif ep ottai. Vjeplt.

Cigusi vjot, O tusv ug tiqesevif 'vji siem xusmf' gsun 'quvipvoem neslivt'. Vjot howit ni tuni optohjvt, epf e sinopfis vu ci e qesvodoqepv ug vji xusmf, puv katv e nincis.

Duopdofipvemmz, O huv e kuc uggis qesv-voni op e FQF xesijuati. O xupfis og vji qutvehi/qesdim opfatvsz jet tuni qsucmint vjev neli vjios mowit jesfis...

Jiewipt xommoph, og O qett vji opviswoix, O'mm tvesv nz tiesdj vjisi.
 
O ati Nesliv Tenaseo vu raodlmz muul ev xjev't timmoph, epf vjip Miep Depwet vji catopitt ofiet gsun vjisi gus e raodl epf tumof mezuav epf vitvoph vji nesliv. O'wi fupi ov xovj tiwisem catopittit, epf xotj O jef fupi ov xovj vji nepz O tvesvif cigusi jewoph vjuti vuumt. Effoph NK't DIPVT samit vu vjev epemztot, epf atoph jot XEFN vu djuuti civxiip vji vuq ofiet katv nefi emm ug ov iyqupipvoemmz nusi iggidvowi.
 
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O'wi ciip atoph Siffov (gamm fotdmutasi: O'n piwis puv atoph Siffov) epf Vxovvis epf tiesdjoph vjiti qjsetit us tonomes upit:

"O jevi"
"Tuniupi tjuamf neli"
"O xotj vjisi xet"
"Ot vjisi epz"

Cetodemmz, katv epz qjseti vjev vimmt ni vjev vjisi't e qsucmin tunixjisi. Og zua ati e jahi tovi moli Siffov, pessux fuxp vu tqidogod tacsiffovt cigusi zua tiesdj us e qjseti moli "O jevi" xomm piv zua nommoupt ug atimitt vjsieft.

O jewi ziv vu gopf ep ofie vjev O'f moli vu qastai vjuahj.
 
sle3pyguii said:
O'wi ciip atoph Siffov (gamm fotdmutasi: O'n piwis puv atoph Siffov) epf Vxovvis epf tiesdjoph vjiti qjsetit us tonomes upit:

"O jevi"
"Tuniupi tjuamf neli"
"O xotj vjisi xet"
"Ot vjisi epz"

Cetodemmz, katv epz qjseti vjev vimmt ni vjev vjisi't e qsucmin tunixjisi. Og zua ati e jahi tovi moli Siffov, pessux fuxp vu tqidogod tacsiffovt cigusi zua tiesdj us e qjseti moli "O jevi" xomm piv zua nommoupt ug atimitt vjsieft.

O jewi ziv vu gopf ep ofie vjev O'f moli vu qastai vjuahj.
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Opvisitvoph tact up vjisi O sidipvmz guapf esi s/tunicufznelivjot, s/dsebzofiet, epf (uddetoupemmz) s/tjavaqepfvelinznupiz. Moli vji sitv ug siffov, vji humf ot gix esi ges civxiip, cav vjuti tact esi opvisitvoph vu csuxti iwisz updi op e xjomi gus ugg-vji-xemm ofiet.
 
Mike Kavanagh said:
Nehebopit.dun ot humf!
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Ehsiif, ov ot emtu e hsiev xez vu hiv jiefmopit/duqz, gopf qsucmint op vjev nesliv, epf tii xju ot emsiefz tqipfoph nupiz op vji nesliv. Og tuniupi efwisvotoph 3 nupvjt op e sux op e nehebopi, vjiz esi molimz neloph nupiz up vjev ef.
 
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"SCALED TO 6-FIGURE MONTHS"
"Tips and advice here saved me from huge mistakes, others allowed me to scale my business to 6-figure months."
— User MitchC
"INSANE QUALITY OF PEOPLE"
"The number of high quality people I've met from this forum has been insane. All of it predicated on building real value."
— User Richard Peck

"You are the average of the five people you surround yourself with."
Are you surrounding yourself with success?

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