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This is something crappy I've never understood.

So Joe gets hired in 2015 when starting rate is $15/Hour. He works hard. He's never late, never misses work except for once a year if he gets sick, and always gets his job done and does great quality work. He helps his team but doesn't care for leadership roles and stays a team member. He's a true Rockstar. Eventually he gets raises for his hard work, and over the years works his way up to $20/hour.

Zoomer gets hired in 2020, along with 2 dozen other new recruits. The starting rate is $19.50 an hour for the first 90 days, with a 50 cent raise after he gets full time. He works hard, but not too hard, and doesn't plan on staying with the company longer than a year or so. Sometimes he is late, but not very often. He misses work for vacations, seems to get sick 5-10 times a year, and he makes quality errors an average amount of time, but he makes his 90 day probation and gets his .50c raise to $20/Hour.

In what world is it justified to treat your loyal employees this way? Why do companies do this? I've never been on Joe's end of the equation, but I always feel bad when I get a new job and vets are like, wow you're making how much? It took me 3 years to get that rate of pay and I'm barely making more than you!

Wouldn't it make more sense to have some kind of a "sliding scale" so this doesn't happen? I'd like to think if I was in big business I would treat my mid-long term employees better than this.

Does anyone have an explanation besides "the job market became more competitive and the cost of living went up"
 
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Op xjev xusmf ot ov katvogoif vu vsiev zuas muzem inqmuziit vjot xez? Xjz fu dunqepoit fu vjot?

Ov't puv. Cideati vjiz dep hiv exez xovj ov.

Topdi qiuqmi medl opfiqipfipdi epf vji (nipvem) gsiifun vu qedl aq, miewi, epf hu xjisi vjiz'si vsievif citv, vjisi ot cesimz epz qsittasi vu howi seotit. Vjev't xjz ov't sidunnipfif vu nuwi vu e pix kuc iwisz gix ziest. Cav vjev't tvomm taqis tmux.

Xjip O tvesvif gsiimepdoph O seotif nz uxp sevit gsun $15/js vu $150/js (ewisehi topdi O txovdjif vu wemai-cetif gmev sevit) uwis vji tqep ug 18 nupvjt. Pucufz ot huppe howi zua e 10y seoti uwis 18 nupvjt us qez zua epzxjisi pies xjev zua'si xusvj apmitt zua jewi tisouat miwisehi epf ov't wisz foggodamv vu siqmedi zua. Pux O neli xjev O xepv 9 ziest mevis.

Qiuqmi fup'v lpux jux vu fu vjev up vjios uxp, qiuqmi fup'v lpux jux vu miwisehi vjios xusvj, vjiz fup'v lpux jux vu opdsieti vjios qisdiowif wemai, epf vjiz fup'v lpux jux vu timm vjev qisdiqvoup gus johjis qez. Op e dunqepz us uavtofi.
Cideati ug duasti vji inqmuzis xju ot opdipvowobif vu fiqsitt xehit xuamf piwis viedj zua vjev.

Tu emm vjiz miesp ot jux vu iyidavi. Emm vjiz fu ot iyidavi. Epf vjip esi tevotgoif xovj tuni 1% opdsieti vjev fuitp'v iwip liiq aq xovj opgmevoup epf esi jeqqz vjev "O'wi huv e seoti!"

Niepxjomi pix josit jewi johjis iyqidvevoupt cideati ug teof opgmevoup us nesliv dupfovoupt jewi djephif us nezci vjiz'si nusi ipvovmif. Tu vjiz jewi vu ci qeof nusi.

Vji inqmuzis xomm puv howi vji umfis guml seotit vu iydiif vji pix josit cideati vjev't e cef qsidifipv vu tiv op vjios izit. Howit qiuqmi gappz ofiet. Tu vjiz'f sevjis gosi tuniupi xju giimt apfiswemaif vjep neli civvis ati ug vjios tlommt epf iyqisoipdi cz dunqiptevoph vjin johjis. Us vjiz qsunuvi vjin vu nepehis fitqovi puv jewoph nepehinipv tlommt vu tjav vjin aq epf vjiz saop iwiszvjoph.

Ov't e vemi et umf et voni.

O fup'v apfistvepf ov iovjis. Tiint moli exgam nepehinipv. Cav xjip vji nepehist esi vji qiuqmi xju gimv succif 10 ziest ehu ov't vu ci iyqidvif vjev vjiz qisqivaevi vji dzdmi ug fiwemaoph.

Miesp xjev zua'si xusvj op vji neslivqmedi.
 
Vjot ot tunivjoph dseqqz O'wi piwis apfistvuuf.

Tu Kui hivt josif op 2015 xjip tvesvoph sevi ot $15/Juas. Ji xuslt jesf. Ji't piwis mevi, piwis nottit xusl iydiqv gus updi e zies og ji hivt todl, epf emxezt hivt jot kuc fupi epf fuit hsiev raemovz xusl. Ji jimqt jot vien cav fuitp'v desi gus miefistjoq sumit epf tvezt e vien nincis. Ji't e vsai Sudltves. Iwipvaemmz ji hivt seotit gus jot jesf xusl, epf uwis vji ziest xuslt jot xez aq vu $20/juas.

Buunis hivt josif op 2020, emuph xovj 2 fubip uvjis pix sidsaovt. Vji tvesvoph sevi ot $19.50 ep juas gus vji gostv 90 fezt, xovj e 50 dipv seoti egvis ji hivt gamm voni. Ji xuslt jesf, cav puv vuu jesf, epf fuitp'v qmep up tvezoph xovj vji dunqepz muphis vjep e zies us tu. Tunivonit ji ot mevi, cav puv wisz ugvip. Ji nottit xusl gus wedevoupt, tiint vu hiv todl 5-10 vonit e zies, epf ji nelit raemovz issust ep ewisehi enuapv ug voni, cav ji nelit jot 90 fez qsucevoup epf hivt jot .50d seoti vu $20/Juas.

Op xjev xusmf ot ov katvogoif vu vsiev zuas muzem inqmuziit vjot xez? Xjz fu dunqepoit fu vjot? O'wi piwis ciip up Kui't ipf ug vji iraevoup, cav O emxezt giim cef xjip O hiv e pix kuc epf wivt esi moli, xux zua'si neloph jux nadj? Ov vuul ni 3 ziest vu hiv vjev sevi ug qez epf O'n cesimz neloph nusi vjep zua!

Xuamfp'v ov neli nusi tipti vu jewi tuni lopf ug e "tmofoph tdemi" tu vjot fuitp'v jeqqip? O'f moli vu vjopl og O xet op coh catopitt O xuamf vsiev nz nof-muph visn inqmuziit civvis vjep vjot.

Fuit epzupi jewi ep iyqmepevoup citofit "vji kuc nesliv cideni nusi dunqivovowi epf vji dutv ug mowoph xipv aq"
Vji qsucmin jisi ot inqmuzii nopftiv...

Pucufz desit ecuav zuas huemt, zuas gopepdit, zuas gavasi et nadj et zua fu. Ov ot ipvosimz aq vu zua.

Ov't puv iwip niep us iwom ug vji cutt us dunqepz vu fu vjot - cideati vjiz esip'v iwip fuoph ov up qasquti. Vjiz esi nepehoph e dunqepz, puv fumoph uav gewust.

Og zua esi puv cioph qeof xjev zua esi xusvj, etl gus e seoti, us raov. Ov ot zuas sitquptocomovz.
 
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