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Lucky for me, no one else saw the ad, and I jumped on it. I couldn't believe my luck when a millionaire entrepreneur was going to teach me how to be rich. He spent hours and hours and hours compiling advice on what I'd need to do to be rich. All I had to do was put it to practice and that was it. This was way too easy.

Just learn from someone who's done it already and go do it? Easy game.

I've decided to pass these notes on to someone else. I haven't decided what a fair price would be yet. I'm thinking $100k would be fair since if you put it into practice you're going to be successful, but that seems a bit over the top. I guess $10k would be a steal. Ah, what the heck I guess since I got it for free it's only fair to give others the same chance.

Warning: There is some effort to get these notes. There are several clicks of the mouse to uncover what MJ compiled, and even some typing involved. Please grab some water and stretch before we proceed.





Here we go:

Type in thefastlanetomillions.com

Go to search. Find posts by user: PhxMJ

Total Posts: 6,572


6,000+ posts made by MJ.

Isn't it weird that MJ has already written several books, and because it wasn't organized in a nice soft or hard cover option you decided to just wait until he released 1 book to make it easier on you. It just took a few clicks of the mouse and 2 searches and you have enough to material to probably cover several books.

It boggles my mind that people who want to be entrepreneurs have not read every post MJ has made.

How many people have read all the books MJ recommended if you want to be a successful entrepreneur? I would bet it's between 1-3 people on this forum if I had to guess. He's posted some here, but he posted some back in 2005/2006 that I hadn't read until the last time I went through his posts last year. One of these books literally had just about everything you need to know to be rich in it. I had never heard anyone mention it before.

It would literally take just a couple days if you wanted to go through every post he's made. A lot of them are off topic and/or maybe not related to what you're doing so you might be able to get through in 1 day.

Don't try to trick yourself into thinking you're putting in a real effort, be honest with yourself.

Many of the fastlane posts are the same topics that have been posted over and over before, even though the information is already there. Since someone doesn't want to search they just make a new post. If your time is too valuable to look it would be silly to assume that you are going to do much with the information you'd be handed anyways. In all seriousness there really shouldn't be a lot of new posts. There should be more reading, and doing. For the most part, most posts are time spent where the people making them could have been working towards their goals, instead of talking about them. Don't talk about it, be about it. How many goals threads are there compared to how many success stories. It's not a fluke.

Millionaires often spent years grinding through struggles to find out what did and didn't work and WHY. What makes you think they can tell you how in a paragraph response to your post. They can tell you exactly what type of things you need to do, but if you aren't going to do them, to keep bothering them with questions that aren't going to make you rich is just showing a lack of respect for their time.

Instead of asking "what work should I be doing to get to where you are", people are focused on "how can i get what you have." That shows substantial laziness and it's almost an insult to the person who worked so hard to get to where they got.

hey mr. millionaire since you know how to make lots of money can you tell me how. just pm me or something. holler back i'll be watching tv yo.


I stopped posting on the forums for a long time. The noise to good info ratio got to be too high. It was tough to find posts with value.

I also felt like the only people getting value out of my own posts were people who actually needed it least. This meant my own posts were not very valuable, since the value gained is going to be put to use by such a tiny amount of people.


A lot of people are good theorists on how one might make money and good at posting motivational quotes, but that's not making you any money.

There is/was a lot of regurgitation of ideas. Regurgitating things you've heard successful people say is not getting you places. Going and doing what successful people have said to do and understanding why they said it gets you places. I see this in unbelievable quantity- people posting things they've heard from others, and while they are often good in theory, they aren't making any money off of it because they don't understand the "why" behind it, and just continue to talk about the ideas on the forum rather than learning why it's successful and going to do something about it. A billionaire can whisper something very smart to you, and you could repeat it in your own words, but if you don't understand the meaning behind why what they said works, by regurgitating it on a forum you might trick some people into thinking you know how to get rich, but you won't be making any money.


What is the value of your time- if you could make $200/hr if you got a successful business going, why would you spend 10 hours/week on a forum unless in the time you are spending you are making a significant improvement in your ability to earn even more money. Regurgitating money making theory and asking repeat questions is not significantly improving the money you can make. Chances are greater by an absolutely insane multiple that if you just went and did something you'd have a higher chance of increasing your earning power than by posting on forums.

The questions you ask speak volumes about your potential to be rich. If you're going to ask a question, make it a prepared question that you've put some work into.

I used MJ as an example since everyone here knows who MJ is. There's a lot of people you can be doing the same thing with. When I was trying to learn I read most of the posts by MJ, SteveO, Russ, and Lesgee. I picked anyone's brain who was successful that I thought I could learn from. I didn't have a clue which direction I was going and probably asked a lot of stupid questions. The more I read and put in work on my own the better and better my questions got, which meant when I asked a question I would get more out of it because I now knew why that was the question I should be asking. If I constantly PMed those guys that would be pretty annoying for them, and they would probably assume I wasn't going to do much with whatever they told me since I was too lazy to do some of my own due diligence and come with good questions, so why should they waste their time. However, since I could ask questions that show I'd put forth a little effort into something, guys like that are more than happy to help you since they know if I ask them a question I'm going to go and do something with what they tell me.

It doesn't make sense to me how many people who claim to so desperately want to learn the path to wealth, who do not go to the meetups. Ya, it might cost you a few bucks that you could use for something else and a weekend of your time, but if you're not willing to sacrifice something so small chances are you are not going to make it anyways. I remember 5 years ago when I was just kind of getting started out. I didn't have much money at all but I wanted to go to the meetup so I could learn. I'd never paid for a cross country flight or spent money on hotels. It was a lot of money to me. I remember picking the cheapest hotel around that I could find for that meetup. It was pretty out of the way. I had to take a bus to find the Rich Dad offices, since I didn't want to spend even more money on a car or a cab. The hotel was crappy and I'm sure I wasn't in a great neighborhood. It would have been silly not to sacrifice those things in exchange for learning from people who knew things that I needed to learn, to get to where I wanted to be.

Stop looking for the easy way out to find your road to wealth. If it was easy it would be economically impossible to be rich anyways because everyone would be rich, which would mean that being rich, wouldn't be rich anymore.

Do not ask how, ask why. This is extremely important and where a lot of the noise posts are coming from.

To give a simple example let's take a poker player. I could show them how to print money playing poker. I could give them a formula to beat the smaller games and they would be able to beat them. If players at those levels improved, then what would happen? Well, they would either:

a. lose
b. move down to even smaller stakes and decrease their earn to make sure they kept winning
c. beg me to give them a new formula so they can keep printing the same money

Since they had not been trained why they were making the plays they were making, they would not be much smarter of a poker player, and would not know how to adjust if the games got more difficult. They were just a human robot doing something that could make them money, without actually learning something other than to copycat a successful strategy. If a year later games change they need a whole new strategy based on how the game has evolved, since they weren't trained to think, they were just trained what to do.

While I believe most people should ask substantially less questions, at the same time, if you put your work in you earn the right to ask questions. If you get to that point do not feel embarrassed to ask for help. You never become too big time to continue learning. You should always be learning. Russ was out here in Austin the other day and went to a meetup here. Russ is a successful guy. He's trying to learn some things on the internet side of business to continue to improve. Out of all the people in the room he was one of only 1 or 2 people to ask any questions. They might have seemed like relatively simple questions to people who may have already known the answers, but that's why Russ is successful. He could have been the smartest, most successful guy in the room and he was the one asking questions and trying to learn more. That's something to learn from.

If you are not sure where to start and want to make good use of your time on the forums, read posts by successful people. Ignore all other posts. Why do you want to read posts and/or ask questions about how to be rich by people who aren't rich. That has always seemed very weird to me.(don't get me confused I'm not saying don't talk to other people in the forum. it's great to make new friends with people with similar mindsets. if you want to get rich just spend your 'learning to get rich' time reading posts from those who are actually rich)

Hopefully this helps some people be more efficient about use of the forums and becoming rich.

Maybe I'll keep posting a bit if I feel like there's value in doing so, because I like helping people, and staying in better touch with those I've met. I just know for me I'd rather spend my time making millions than to talk about making millions on the internet. Both are exciting, but only one gets me my mansion and lambo.
 

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hey mr. millionaire since you know how to make lots of money can you tell me how. just pm me or something. holler back i'll be watching tv yo.
ouch. thanks for the slap. I can always use a good wake up. Even though it may not be the most friendly, excellent post.
 
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ouch. thanks for the slap. I can always use a good wake up. Even though it may not be the most friendly, excellent post.
It was not meant to be unfriendly at all, only informational. The majority of people that this will help do not even know they are going about things the wrong way, so writing it the way I wrote it I thought would have the best effect for who needed it. If it was a simple A, B, C answer to solve their issues it would be a simple post to make, but it's not that easy which is why so many people haven't got it up to this point. I wanted the effect to be "oh shit, this IS crazy that I haven't be doing things these ways." If I just stated the things I thought people should be doing I don't think the effect would hit home very well. It wasn't directed at anyone, I felt the majority of the forum could benefit from at least some of it. I typed it in my friendly typing voice, so it probably comes across a lot more blunt than it would be if I was in person talking to someone. The part you quoted was in italics because it was said in a joking manner, and again, for effect.
 

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It was not meant to be unfriendly at all, only informational. The majority of people that this will help do not even know they are going about things the wrong way, so writing it the way I wrote it I thought would have the best effect for who needed it. If it was a simple A, B, C answer to solve their issues it would be a simple post to make, but it's not that easy which is why so many people haven't got it up to this point. I wanted the effect to be "oh shit, this IS crazy that I haven't be doing things these ways." If I just stated the things I thought people should be doing I don't think the effect would hit home very well. It wasn't directed at anyone, I felt the majority of the forum could benefit from at least some of it. I typed it in my friendly typing voice, so it probably comes across a lot more blunt than it would be if I was in person talking to someone. The part you quoted was in italics because it was said in a joking manner, and again, for effect.

I didn't take any offense whatsoever. I only meant it wasn't friendly because it wasn't the coddling, motherly tone. But it was extremely appropriate. Too many people, myself included, find themselves spending time doing things unproductive even though the activities are justified in their own minds. I can't tell you how many times I have realized I had been on facebook for 45 minutes looking at junk only to realize that 45 minutes of my life had completely evaporated.

I see it on this forum as well where many people are asking for the answers, but not doing their own due diligence to find the answers. If success were easy, everyone would be doing it. Unfortunately too many think there is an easy road. Just because it is the fastlane, doesn't mean it isn't a bumpy road.
 

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Great post and very timely. This is actually the first time I've signed in for about 10 days....been hammering away at my new venture. Just landed my first paying client yesterday. I think I'll get used to those "you've got money" emails from Paypal pretty damn quickly!
 

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One of these books literally had just about everything you need to know to be rich in it. I had never heard anyone mention it before.
Just ordered this book on Amazon for .47! Can you f'ing believe that!?! .47! (plus s&h, of course)
"just about everything you need to know to be rich" for .47!!!

But if you want to know the name of it, you'll have to search for yourself. :)


Thanks for the tip, Bill, and great post!
 

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To Steve K - :yourock: Enjoy the books!



Another thing I noticed, it shows that MJ has posted 6000+ times on here but when you do a search, it will only show you 1500. Does anyone know if it's possible to go further back?

BTW, I also tried going back a year then searching for the last 1500, pretty much the same result. It sucks to think that the other 4500+ are buried, never to be read again. :( Do they get purged from the system at some point?



On a different topic, for those that haven't read MJ's and Les Gee's (and others) posts on the old RD forum, they are well worth spending the time reading. Some are pure gold. I've thought about re-posting some of them on here, but like Bill said if you're not willing to look for their treasures after being handed the map, it's unlikely that you'll do anything with the information once you've got it.
 
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The title to the thread shows your mastery of PR.
haha, thanks. it's funny you mention it. i had multiple titles i was deciding from and multiple initial storylines and kept going back and forth trying to figure out which one would have the biggest potential effect on people here.
 

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Just ordered this book on Amazon for .47! Can you f'ing believe that!?! .47! (plus s&h, of course)
"just about everything you need to know to be rich" for .47!!!
Knowledge is expensive.

The thing with learning and reading books/posts is that the more you learn, the more you get out of the next thing you read/hear. One book I remember starting years ago, and stopped reading because I thought it was kind of boring. I happened to pick it up last year and it's one of my favorite books. Things in the book helped spark ideas/questions that I wouldn't have thought of years before because I wasn't at that level yet to understand some of the things behind what I was reading. The more you learn the deeper you're able to evaluate certain things, and think on higher levels regarding ideas.

One person can read a book about a successful entrepreneur who sold shoelaces and made millions. They will think, "ohhhh, great idea I will sell shoelaces!" The person who is able to grasp more is the person who says, "ohhhh, that's how they differentiated themselves and were able to achieve success despite it being a saturated market. that's a unique idea I can see implementing in market XYZ and see success. I will go try that."

There is the "how" to do something.(example: implementation) It often comes from the "why".(example: information from market research/due diligence) The "what"(example: an idea) is and always will be irrelevant. Out of those 3 things, two of them take some work. One of them does not. 99% of aspiring entrepreneurs focus on the one that does not.

Once someone understands the correct thought process a successful entrepreneur should have, the deeper and deeper you'll be able to look into things other successful entrepreneurs have done and expand on them. I read some things now and it's often mindblowing how many ways you could twist and tweak strategies other people have done and do it in so many different markets that haven't even been touched.

Many people are reading books and asking questions to learn what to do, instead of to learn how to think. That's a huge error that will hold most aspiring entrepreneurs back and it's something no one talks about.

The thought process of most aspiring entrepreneurs is:

what-how-why or what-why-how

The thought process of most successful entrepreneurs is:

why-how-what or why-what-how
 

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^ now thats just creepy...

as i was eating dinner a few hours ago, i was thinking to myself at how differently i look at everything now...

and i literally said to myself that i dont look at whens, who's and what's
as much as i do the WHY's and HOW's


i kid you not this is what i was thinking about just a few hours ago !
 
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Just ordered this book on Amazon for .47! Can you f'ing believe that!?! .47! (plus s&h, of course)
"just about everything you need to know to be rich" for .47!!!

But if you want to know the name of it, you'll have to search for yourself. :)


Thanks for the tip, Bill, and great post!
why wouldn't you post the name?
 

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why wouldn't you post the name?
This is why.

like Bill said if you're not willing to look for their treasures after being handed the map, it's unlikely that you'll do anything with the information once you've got it.

This is NOT meant to be a slam against you EastWind (or anyone for that matter) so please don't take it that way. It's meant to separate the treasure hunters from the pirates, if you will. And I speak from personal experience; I've been the pirate before, I've been "that guy" - the guy that people have tried to advise / help / tell me what to do in order to direct me towards achieving my goals; but I didn't act on their advice / help or made excuses why it wouldn't work / I couldn't make it work --- because I wasn't ready to RECEIVE the information / advice given.

Fortunately, I feel that's changed for me now.
 

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I was going to start a post about this but I think this thread is a good place to add it.

Many posters here are very open and openly offer their golden advice. There are always people in the world who have no visions of their own or thoughts of their own and basically will just flat out copy the successful people here.

It is very annoying for me to see someone copy one of my sites or one of my friend's sites. But it is very satisfying to see that site make no income, get crushed or disappear months later.

If you are someone like that, realize that you will get crushed if that's as far as your mind goes. If someone is selling shoelaces successfully and all you do is copy them and sell shoelaces you will always be one step behind. You see the person is successful because of the hard work and thought process going on behind the store or the site. Think for a second. If I told you to go buy a domain name then I uploaded to it an exact copy a successful website and say "here you go", what do you do next?
 

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Great post, Bio.

I think that's one of the things that differentiates the fastlane from "get rich quick" schemes.

Specifically, "Get rich quick" usually implies that the process is EASY.

Lotsa folks want EASY.

The fastlane ain't easy. It's hard work. Lots of it, for a little while (while you build your business).

And that's what separates the "doers" from the "dreamers" on this site, and everywhere else:

The doers get it done.

The dreamers take the easy way-- or don't do much of anything.

Nike had it right.

-Russ H.
 

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Another thing I noticed, it shows that MJ has posted 6000+ times on here but when you do a search, it will only show you 1500. Does anyone know if it's possible to go further back?

BTW, I also tried going back a year then searching for the last 1500, pretty much the same result. It sucks to think that the other 4500+ are buried, never to be read again. :( Do they get purged from the system at some point?
Pretty sure it is a limit imposed by the forum software to only return 1500 search results, to prevent too much strain on the database.

However, there's always a way around computer limitations:groove:

This search returns the 882 posts that MJ made where people clicked the "Thank You" button. That should make sure that almost everything with substantial wisdom is included and filters out all the "bump" and similar less valuable posts.

And if we bypass the forum's built in search feature and head over to Google (I heard a rumor that they are pretty good with searching this Internet thang) this search has 9,650 results in this forum where the term "PHXMJ" appears on the page. It even grabs all the conversations he has had on members personal profile pages!

So there you go, the quick way or the exhaustive way, all the PhxMJ you're going to need to get extremely wealthy!
 

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This is why.




This is NOT meant to be a slam against you EastWind (or anyone for that matter) so please don't take it that way. It's meant to separate the treasure hunters from the pirates, if you will. And I speak from personal experience; I've been the pirate before, I've been "that guy" - the guy that people have tried to advise / help / tell me what to do in order to direct me towards achieving my goals; but I didn't act on their advice / help or made excuses why it wouldn't work / I couldn't make it work --- because I wasn't ready to RECEIVE the information / advice given.

Fortunately, I feel that's changed for me now.
blah! i'm not buying all this. put up the name of the book, the HUNT is the actually reading, understanding and applying what you read. Not in knowing the name of the book. But whatever, it's like a sort of elitist attitude is brewing here. Frankly, I thought this site was for sharing information, ideas. People here sometimes are too tight with information or vague, especially the very important ones. Yall have said it over and over that you can give all the information to someone and if they are not motivated, they wouldn't do it. So why make it harder? Just drop the information, if they use it good, if they don't too bad. Hiding it behind an extra layer such as "you go search for it" in my opinion is lame. I mean, if you don't remember the name of the book, and you say, "search for it, or search for this and that phrase" that's understandable, but when you do know the name and you can save someone even be it a few seconds but you want to make them search. "Oh well!"
I'm a firm believer in "information wants to be free", I'm also a firm believer in "no security through obfuscation" very strongly opposed ideas by most entrepreneurs. But hey, these are my values and my personal opinion. My opinion tho. :)
 

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To be honest I've been quite impressed by some of the users of this forum and their ability to work, put the effort in, and learn from those around them. This post gives those that don't do that a swift kick up the backside to get them into the right sort of mind. If you've got time to kill and want to 'make it', this forum contains valuable life lessons for everyone wanting to start a business.

Personally I've read alot of this forum, and enjoy alot of the sentiments and information I've gleemed off it. After my short time here MJ, Russ etc have commented on my own posts and made me consider my decisions. For me, this forum represents the opportunity to state ideas and share information. If it helps someone, thats great. If someone comments on my post with a constructive critasism, all the better :)
 

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I wasn't ready to RECEIVE the information / advice given.

Fortunately, I feel that's changed for me now.
Any lack of success I encounter along my journey, I have attributed to this. I see it ALL the time. Information that gives me an "ah ha" moment and realizing I had that same information a year ago but did not understand what to do with it.

EastWind, the name of the book is not what is important. It may not be the same one that one person is talking about that made the difference for them THAT is why you need to go and find it. You need to find the book that is going to make the difference for you.

The answers are not likely just one post, or one book or one persons way of doing it. That is point. The information is always out there, but only you can search and get what you need to succeed out of it. It cannot be handed to you. And once you find it, you will not be able to hand it to anyone either. But you could make millions trying to. And many would find your information priceless - even without finding their way.
 

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blah! i'm not buying all this. put up the name of the book, the HUNT is the actually reading, understanding and applying what you read. Not in knowing the name of the book. But whatever, it's like a sort of elitist attitude is brewing here. Frankly, I thought this site was for sharing information, ideas. <b> People here sometimes are too tight with information or vague, especially the very important ones.</b> Yall have said it over and over that you can give all the information to someone and if they are not motivated, they wouldn't do it. So why make it harder? Just drop the information, if they use it good, if they don't too bad. Hiding it behind an extra layer such as "you go search for it" in my opinion is lame. I mean, if you don't remember the name of the book, and you say, "search for it, or search for this and that phrase" that's understandable, but when you do know the name and you can save someone even be it a few seconds but you want to make them search. "Oh well!"
I'm a firm believer in "information wants to be free", I'm also a firm believer in "no security through obfuscation" very strongly opposed ideas by most entrepreneurs. But hey, these are my values and my personal opinion. My opinion tho. :)

Ya don't say! So basically what i got from you here is that those that did all the hard work, reading, testing, implementing... should simply hand that information over for thousands to see and maybe some people will copy exactley what you do and some won't....


Sounds like a win/win right?....
 
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Another great post Bill, speed+++

Isn't it weird that MJ has already written several books, and because it wasn't organized in a nice soft or hard cover option you decided to just wait until he released 1 book to make it easier on you. It just took a few clicks of the mouse and 2 searches and you have enough to material to probably cover several books.
Very true, it probably is more like 10 books!! OMG! Yet to my surprise, I feel many here (probably the "majority") already know the elements of "Fastlane" and I feel almost like ya'll have already read the book. This tells me that a lot of people ARE doing the diligence and accumulating the posts -- moreso than I would have guessed. Then of course the next step is the hardest, doing something with it! A winning lottery ticket is worthless if you don't claim the prize.


Go to the forums and search by "posted by"
And if you do, let me apologize in advance. I'm not proud of a lot of things I wrote over there and many of the postings reek with arrogance and political rhetoric. I read over some of them and was like "WTF?" I actually prefer that no one knows about that account, while the info might be valuable, the delivery is something that I am don't like attached to myself. It was why I left; I got too worked up by the mindless denizens over there and the vile tone had to stop.

, but he posted some back in 2005/2006 that I hadn't read until the last time I went through his posts last year. One of these books literally had just about everything you need to know to be rich in it. I had never heard anyone mention it before.
When you mentioned this, I immediately thought of the book -- while I've recommended dozens of books over the years, I wasn't sure if it was "the one" ... so I went back and searched, and sure enough, it was. Found it on Amazon used for 47 cents. The book never sold a lot, is nearly 10 years old, and doesn't even have spectacular reviews -- however, I remember the book made a big impact for me. Bill, ya liked it too?
 
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:thankyousign:It took me maybe 15 minutes of searching for this book to find it. Thanks Snowbank for the thread! Thanks kwerner for the .47 cent tip! And of course thank you to MJ for suggesting the book in the first place!

I have found even if the answers aren't spelled out for us, we are usually nudged in the right direction to discover our own answers. This makes it a lot more memorable.

Thanks everyone for your contributions to this forum!
 
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The book never sold a lot, is nearly 10 years old, and doesn't even have spectacular reviews -- however, I remember the book made a big impact for me. Bill, ya liked it too?
When I read books I mark with a pen around sentences/paragraphs of the book I think are great points. This book has the highest % ink coverage of any book I own.
 

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:thankyousign:It took me maybe 15 minutes of searching for this book to find it. Thanks Snowbank for the thread! Thanks kwerner for the .47 cent tip! And of course thank you to MJ for suggesting the book in the first place!

I have found even if the answers aren't spelled out for us, we are usually nudged in the right direction to discover our own answers. This makes it a lot more memorable.

Thanks everyone for your contributions to this forum!
taken me 2 hours so far..and you can't even go back to 2006 in the searches..
 

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