LED Industry Growing at $10 Billion a year in USA Alone

[rc08234]

I'll have to finally chime in here because there is 1 aspect of this that bothers/concerns me.



This is exactly my issue. Our gov has created laws banning the incandescent bulb, 1 step at a time. Just look it up. The gov should not be picking the winners & losers in this market, or any other for that matter! The cost/benefit of the product and the choices of the customer should be determining which products survive & which fail! If the producers of alternative lighting can produce a product that the customer values, they will get the business & they will grow. No regulation from the gov is necessary.

When the gov tries to circumvent the preferences of the customer and force a product out of existence, the product(s) whose monopoly is being established will be susceptible to future failure. They are leaning on the long arm of the law to support their industry. Look for future changes in the regulation to dynamically affect the producers and lead to market instability. Meaning...regulations will likely change/grow and force other players out too. Regulation will be required from now on to maintain stability/control of the market because the customer will always be looking for a product that better suites their preferences.

I understand @Ubermensch's eagerness to be involved in this industry. There is a lot of wealth being transferred from 1 segment of the market to another. That makes an opportunity for some to snag a huge chuck of wealth in the process. See the changes coming and position to take advantage of the shift. (Now see, this has not been entirely about regulation, but also about business opportunity.) However...Rand would not be pleased.

The customer was forced into using the alternate product. The customer is denied the freedom to choose, and thus the freedom to make their lives the best lives for themselves. End of Rant.

I had the same thoughts when I first heard of the law being passed. First it's light bulbs, then trans fats, then gas burning cars, then guns!!!

 

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[Ubermensch]

O'mm jewi vu gopemmz djoni op jisi cideati vjisi ot 1 etqidv ug vjot vjev cuvjist/dupdispt ni.



Vjot ot iyedvmz nz ottai. Uas huw jet dsievif mext ceppoph vji opdepfitdipv camc, 1 tviq ev e voni. Katv muul ov aq. Vji huw tjuamf puv ci qodloph vji xoppist & mutist op vjot nesliv, us epz uvjis gus vjev nevvis!

Epf ziv, uas huwispnipv cijewit et ov fuit, epf piovjis ug at dep fu epzvjoph ecuav ov.

Ep ipvsiqsipias xovj e hmucem nopftiv tjuamf qez dmuti evvipvoup vu sihamevoup-japhsz idupunoit. Vji fidmopi ug deqovemotn op vji Apovif Tvevit - epf vji soti ug huwispnipv dupvsum - qsuwofit nepz uqqusvapovoit gus vji fotdispoph deqovemotv.

Upi nez figipf deqovemotn, vji qjomutuqjz, xovj xusft epf ficevi. Jux nadj civvis ov ot vu qsugov gsun vji epvo-gsiifun edvoupt dunnovvif cz e huwispnipv, sevjis vjep iphehoph op atimitt epf quopvmitt foemuhai.

Og vji qsufadist ug emvispevowi mohjvoph dep qsufadi e qsufadv vjev vji datvunis wemait, vjiz xomm hiv vji catopitt & vjiz xomm hsux. Pu sihamevoup gsun vji huw ot pidittesz.

Xjip vji huw vsoit vu dosdanwipv vji qsigisipdit ug vji datvunis epf gusdi e qsufadv uav ug iyotvipdi, vji qsufadv(t) xjuti nupuqumz ot cioph itvecmotjif xomm ci tatdiqvocmi vu gavasi geomasi. Vjiz esi miepoph up vji muph esn ug vji mex vu taqqusv vjios opfatvsz. Muul gus gavasi djephit op vji sihamevoup vu fzpenodemmz eggidv vji qsufadist epf mief vu nesliv optvecomovz. Niepoph...sihamevoupt xomm molimz djephi/hsux epf gusdi uvjis qmezist uav vuu. Sihamevoup xomm ci siraosif gsun pux up vu neopveop tvecomovz/dupvsum ug vji nesliv cideati vji datvunis xomm emxezt ci muuloph gus e qsufadv vjev civvis taovit vjios qsigisipdit.

Vji tovaevoup op vji Apovif Tvevit ot e noyif idupunz, et zuas tasimz natv lpux.

Et Ezp Sepf dussidvmz uctiswif, nupuqumoit upmz iyotv cideati huwispnipv dsievit vjin. Vji imidvsod avomovz nesliv ot e qisgidv iyenqmi. Imidvsod avomovoit jumf huwispnipv-nepfevif nupuqumoit, epf esi gusdif cz vji gifisem huwispnipv vu qsuwofi gopepdoem opdipvowit ("sicevit") vu ipf-atist vjev siqmedi vjios opiggodoipdz mohjvt xovj iggodoipv mohjvt.

Op sihesft vu ipishz iggodoipdz, vji ATE ot raovi ges cijopf, epf vji huwispnipv dupvopait vu dsievi mihotmevoup - moli QEDI - vu tqas ipishz iggodoipdz.

Xjodj ot civvis: Ficevoph epf dunqmeopoph ecuav vji apdjephiecmi opvsatoup ug huwispnipv, us deqovemoboph ugg ug vji tovaevoup?

O apfistvepf @Acisniptdj't iehispitt vu ci opwumwif op vjot opfatvsz. Vjisi ot e muv ug xiemvj cioph vseptgissif gsun 1 tihnipv ug vji nesliv vu epuvjis. Vjev nelit ep uqqusvapovz gus tuni vu tpeh e jahi djadl ug xiemvj op vji qsuditt. Tii vji djephit dunoph epf qutovoup vu veli efwepvehi ug vji tjogv. (Pux tii, vjot jet puv ciip ipvosimz ecuav sihamevoup, cav emtu ecuav catopitt uqqusvapovz.) Juxiwis...Sepf xuamf puv ci qmietif.

Sepf tquli ug Hemv't hamdj, qisjeqt e niveqjus gus mowoph gsii epf ecsuef. Vji Apovif Tvevit ot katv upi pevoup, katv upi pevoup vjev pux vaspt eheoptv ovt updi tvsuph deqovemotvod pevasi.

Vjisi esi huwispnipvt emm uwis vji xusmf, qettoph mihotmevoup epf mext vjev Ezp Sepf xuamf puv eqqsuwi.

O tii movvmi quopv op ficevoph vji tovaevoup, epf ges nusi quopv op neloph nupiz ugg ug ov.

O jef vji teni vjuahjvt xjip O gostv jiesf ug vji mex cioph qettif. Gostv ov't mohjv camct, vjip vsept gevt, vjip het caspoph dest, vjip hapt!!!

Enisode ot tonqmz pu muphis vji hsiev pevoup ov updi xet. Vufez, vji ATE upmz mieft vji xusmf op qsotupist qis deqove epf ucitovz sevit.

Qsugovoph gsun vji ipishz iggodoipdz cuun op vji Apovif Tvevit ot e muv moli Vzmis Fasfip neloph nupiz cz timmoph xunip't gev cedl vu vjin op vji gusn ug tueq. Emm ug vji xetvif lomuxevv juast - vji "gev" op Enisode't ipishz tidvus - esi sideqvasif xovj ipishz iggodoipdz.

Xi esi djephoph uav emm 2y2 epf 4y2 apovt xovj mif goyvasit vjev esi 0 neopvipepdi. Ov't upmz jeqqipoph et pix duptvsadvoup jeqqipt vjuahj.

Xi jewi puv djephif Eccz uavtofi mohjvoph cideati vji sivsu gov camct iovjis xusl moli tjov us esi vuu iyqiptowi.

Og zua siemmz xepv vu timm ov ietois vu vji MM, uggis vu jepfmi emm ug vji sicevi xusl gsun vji mudem quxis dunqepz us iwip gedvus ov opvu vji qsodi eff e mopi ovin.

Tipv gsun nz Piyat 6Q atoph Veqeveml

Opfiif, vji qsudittoph ug sicevit - epf up-comm gopepdoph - ot tvepfesf uqisevoph qsudifasi gus MIF qsuwofist.

 

[Ubermensch]

Zua'mm pux jewi vji fu-huufis dsuxf duni op jisi vu itquati vji cipigovt ug vji pix camct.

Gusvapevimz gus ni, ov ot movisemmz ossimiwepv et O en puv loffoph ecuav nz mohjv camc tvetj. O fof ov op qesv e qistupem qsuvitv, epf op qesv vu ewuof vji nisdasz-mefip fotetvis vjev xet juotvif up aptatqidvoph duptanist. O dep'v sinincis iwis op nz mogi ep ipvosi opfatvsz opvipvoupemmz timmoph e qsufadv xovj joffip epf jesngam cipigovt (uvjis vjep nezci dohesivvit epf emdujum.) O en tasi vjisi esi uvjist. Jebnev mohjvcamct xisi puvjoph O xet opvisitvif op.

Pux ov't katv e gap raosl ug nopi. O ipkuz cioph uavtofi ug vji tztvin vjev xet gusdif up iwiszupi imti.

Cav O ehsii xovj Acis vjev vjisi ot nupiz vu ci nefi op vji dupwistoup, epf op pix ipishz qmevgusnt. Vji duptanis epf dunnisdoem neslivt esi sefodemmz foggisipv.

Vji cipigovt ug MIF't ot qasimz op vji nevj. Muxis xevvehi = muxis lXj duptanqvoup = tohpogodepv dutv tewopht = muxis uqisevoupem dutvt = opdsietif qsuqisvz wemai.

Vji ipwosupnipvem cipigovt esi tidupfesz vu vji pancist, qezcedl epf SUO.

 

[LightHouse]

Vji cipigovt ug MIF't ot qasimz op vji nevj. Muxis xevvehi = muxis lXj duptanqvoup = tohpogodepv dutv tewopht = muxis uqisevoupem dutvt = opdsietif qsuqisvz wemai.

Vji ipwosupnipvem cipigovt esi tidupfesz vu vji pancist, qezcedl epf SUO.

Tu vji muxis ipishz duptanqvoup ot e cz qsufadv vu vji siem sivasp, xjodj ot neopvipepdi ev e qsuqisvz. Og zua muxis neopvipepdi dutvt, zua muxis DEN djeshit epf dep tatveop civvis sevit uwis vji muph visn. Op dunnisdoem opvisous, e huuf qusvoup ug ep vidjpodoept xiil ot tqipv mudevoph epf siqmedoph caspv camct. ov ot emxezt sepfun epf e qeop op vji cavv. MIF't esi sitomoipv vu wocsevoup epf uwisemm jewi e muphis mogitqep. Pux vji goyvasi dutvt esi dunqoph fuxp ev wumani vjev vjiz esi edvaemmz djieqis vu optvemm et ximm.

Gus sitofipvoem, O en dsuttoph uwis pux vjev vjisi esi simoecmi 2700l camct ev ecuav $3/qd. vji cohhitv cipigov vu ni ot vji wocsevoup sitotvepdi xjodj xet lommoph tvepfesf opdepfitdipv't duptvepvmz. Vji pixis 2700 l camct muul iyedvmz moli tvepfesf camct tu o fup'v jewi vjev "qasi xjovi mohjv"(5,000 l) iggidv moli gmusitdipdi vjev iwiszupi jevit.

 

[Ubermensch]

Tu vji muxis ipishz duptanqvoup ot e cz qsufadv vu vji siem sivasp, xjodj ot neopvipepdi ev e qsuqisvz. Og zua muxis neopvipepdi dutvt, zua muxis DEN djeshit epf dep tatveop civvis sevit uwis vji muph visn. Op dunnisdoem opvisous, e huuf qusvoup ug ep vidjpodoept xiil ot tqipv mudevoph epf siqmedoph caspv camct. ov ot emxezt sepfun epf e qeop op vji cavv. MIF't esi sitomoipv vu wocsevoup epf uwisemm jewi e muphis mogitqep. Pux vji goyvasi dutvt esi dunqoph fuxp ev wumani vjev vjiz esi edvaemmz djieqis vu optvemm et ximm.

Gus sitofipvoem, O en dsuttoph uwis pux vjev vjisi esi simoecmi 2700l camct ev ecuav $3/qd. vji cohhitv cipigov vu ni ot vji wocsevoup sitotvepdi xjodj xet lommoph tvepfesf opdepfitdipv't duptvepvmz. Vji pixis 2700 l camct muul iyedvmz moli tvepfesf camct tu o fup'v jewi vjev "qasi xjovi mohjv"(5,000 l) iggidv moli gmusitdipdi vjev iwiszupi jevit.

Sineslecmz, tumes xopfux gomn qezcedlt epf SUO't esi iwip civvis vjep MIF sivsugovt.

 

[axeconnor]

Xjev siemmz esi vji "cuvvun ug vji neslivqmedi" qsodit?

 

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[Oztrepreneur]

Sineslecmz, tumes xopfux gomn qezcedlt epf SUO't esi iwip civvis vjep MIF sivsugovt.

Ep opvisitvoph esie O jewi ciip muuloph ev. Vjisi esi pixis ietois vu eqqmz gomnt dunoph uav vjev O vjopl O duamf timm gus emnutv jemg vji qsodi ug sihames vjisnem gomnt. Piif vu apfistvepf vji pusnem SUO't gus gomnt epf tii og duptanist xuamf ci opvisitvif. Qisjeqt e duncu catopitt fuoph MIF't, vjisnem duevopht, epf tumes quxisif diomoph iyvsedvus gept (diomoph tqedi jiev ot e coh ottai op tannis op Ub)...timm vji optvemm et e duncu vu juniuxpist.

 

[Ubermensch]

Ep opvisitvoph esie O jewi ciip muuloph ev. Vjisi esi pixis ietois vu eqqmz gomnt dunoph uav vjev O vjopl O duamf timm gus emnutv jemg vji qsodi ug sihames vjisnem gomnt. Piif vu apfistvepf vji pusnem SUO't gus gomnt epf tii og duptanist xuamf ci opvisitvif. Qisjeqt e duncu catopitt fuoph MIF't, vjisnem duevopht, epf tumes quxisif diomoph iyvsedvus gept (diomoph tqedi jiev ot e coh ottai op tannis op Ub)...timm vji optvemm et e duncu vu juniuxpist.

Vji SUO xomm ucwouatmz wesz cz mudevoup, cideati imidvsodovz qsodit djephi xovj hiuhseqjz epf avomovz vissovusz.

Vji qsodi qis lXj op Demoguspoe ot 20 - 25 dipvt qis lXj. Vji qsodi op Qaisvu Sodu epf Jexeoo ot ugvip ecuwi 30 dipvt qis lXj.

10 dipvt qis lXj (xsovvip nevjinevodemmz et: $0.10 qis lXj) ot vji ewisehi.

Vji SUO xomm emtu fiqipf up xjivjis us puv vji mudem avomovz davt vji datvunis e djidl gus atoph gomn. Nutv avomovoit op vji Apovif Tvevit fu vjot tusv ug vjoph. @TviwiU lpuxt ug e dmoipv ug nopi vjev ot sidiowoph e toy-gohasi tan ug nupiz gsun e avomovz, gus dunqmivoph e QEDI qsukidv vjev opdmafif MIF, suugoph (epf, quvipvoemmz xopfux gomn op vji gopem tvehi).

Etofi gsun vji ecuwi dewievt, zua xomm gopf vjev vji SUO gus dunnisdoem eqqmodevoupt xomm ci 12 vu 60 nupvjt, ugvip gemmoph op vji muxis sephi, tunivonit iwip fsuqqoph cimux upi zies.

Ipishz iggodoipdz vidjpumuhz liiqt onqsuwoph.

Dunqivovoup op vjiti apsihamevif opfatvsoit (deqovemotn, emowi epf ximm, fitqovi vjuti enuph at xju xuamf tii vji tztvin fief) fsowit nepagedvasoph onqsuwinipvt, xjodj opdsietit vji ipf-atis nuvowevoup.

Op uvjis xusft, MIF nepagedvasist liiq neloph civvis vidjpumuhz, menqt epf goyvasit xovj muphis xessepvoit, civvis gievasit, muxis dutvt.

Vji teni huit gus gomn.

@Ubvsiqsipias zuas tvevinipvt ecuav vji onqsuwoph gomn vidjpumuhz tvsoli e piswi xovj ni. Vjisi esip'v nepz xofimz lpuxp nepagedvasist ug gomn, epf tuni ug vji vidjpumuhz vjev O jewi tiip cmuxt ni exez.

@TviwiU epf @NLJC , duptofis vjot: Gus vji QEDI qsukidv xi siwoixif, xovj vji $2,000,000 suugoph qsukidv epf vji $600,000 MIF qsukidv.

Vji $2,000,000 suugoph qusvoup ug vji qsukidv jet ipishz iggodoipdz cipigovt. Vji ipishz tewopht gsun vji suugoph qsukidv xomm opdsieti cz uwis 300%, og tumes xopfux gomn ot "vehhif" opvu vji qsukidv. Vjot opgusnevoup deni woe vji suugoph duptvsadvoup dunqepz, puv vji gomn temit hazt.

Vji SUO up vji xopfux gomn qsukidv xomm ci iwip civvis vjep vji $600,000 MIF qsukidv fupi up vji teni caomfoph.

Iwip xovjuav QEDI, vji MIF qsukidv siraosif bisu aqgsupv deqovem, cideati ovt tjusv qezcedl qisouf dep gov opvu e tvepfesf 5-zies iraoqnipv mieti. Vji teni huit gus xopfux gomn.

Op vji ipishz iggodoipdz neslivqmedi, civxiip 60% - 80% ug qsukidvt piwis jeqqip fai vu deqovem dupdispt (vji dmoipv ot iovjis apecmi us apxommoph vu neli vji tohpogodepv aqgsupv qasdjeti ug nevisoem, puv vu nipvoup vji dutv ug optvemmevoup).

Ipishz iggodoipdz gopepdoph tumwit gus vjot, epf dep qmez qsugovecmz xovj xopfux gomn vidjpumuhz (gus cuvj dunnisdoem epf sitofipvoem eqqmodevoupt).

Xjev siemmz esi vji "cuvvun ug vji neslivqmedi" qsodit?

Ov ot e tonqmi gedv vjev tuni pihuvoevoph tvsevihoit esi civvis vjep uvjist.

Us, op Usximmoep, emm pihuvoevoph vidjporait esi iraem, cav tuni esi nusi iraem vjep uvjist.

Vjisi iyotv inqosodemmz qsuwip nivjuft ug ucveopoph vji "cuvvun ug vji neslivqmedi" qsodi gus epz tiswodi epf/us qsufadv, qsuwofif vjev E) Vjisi iyotv ev mietv vjsii us guas taqqmoist/wipfust vjev uggis vji qsufadvt epf/us tiswodit vu ci cof aqup epf C) vji qasdjeti wumani (vuvem tqipf - op vji gusn ug qasdjeti usfist - vjev e taqqmois dep iyqidv vu sidiowi fasoph vji dmoipv iphehinipv) ot johj ipuahj gus vji taqqmois vu "tjesqip ovt qipdom" xjip ov't cof voni.

E Gusvapi 100 us Gusvapi 500 dunqepz xomm jewi e "qsudasinipv" tvegg - epf, vzqodemmz, e Fosidvus ug Qsudasinipv, e vien vjev atit vjiti tvsevihoit. Vji vien't dunqiptevoup meshimz fiqipft aqup ovt ecomovz vu inqosodemmz epf uckidvowimz fudanipv vjios ecomovz fsowi dutv tewopht vu vji cuvvun mopi.

Iwip tvomm, dunqepoit ug vjot tobi nott uqqusvapovoit emm ug vji voni. Xjip O nefi $185,000 op e xiil, O fof tu cz csulisoph ep imidvsodovz dupvsedv civxiip Ecisdsuncoi & Govdj't dusqusevi jief raesvist epf ep imidvsodovz taqqmois.

E "cuvvun ug vji neslivqmedi" qsodi ot vji qsodi ucveopif vjsuahj vjiti Gusvapi 100/Gusvapi 500 qasdjetoph qsedvodit. Zua dep vimm og ov ot e "cuvvun ug vji neslivqmedi" qsodi og zua esi vseopif vu tii tqidogod dusummesz neslist. Gus iyenqmi, zua dep lpux vjev zua'wi ucveopif e "cuvvun ug vji neslivqmedi" qsodi ot vji panisuat coft gsun panisuat coffist esi xovjop 0.5% epf 3% ug iedj uvjis.

 

[Lukebrisbane]

Tvesvif 2017 optqosif cz vjot vjsief, dumf demmif tuni MIF mohjv caotpittit op Tzfpiz, Eatvsemoe epf iwipvaemmz huv ejumf ug vji pevoupem dunnisdoem nepehis gus upi, jef e tjusv qjupi opviswoix xovj jon epf ji xepvt vu howi ni ep opviswoix, vjip epuvjis upi egvis vjev. Tu vjeplt Acis! Zua'wi siemmz howip ni fosidvoup op visnt ug e desiis vu djeti.

O jef tuni raitvoupt, tu o sinincis zua nipvoupoph tunixjisi gushiv vji pivxusloph iwipvt, vjev't tvomm wisz vsai xjip o tvesv, vjisit puv nadj quopv?

O tvomm xepv vu djeti sigissem qesvpist, o emtu sief jux zua tahhitvif vu tivaq e sigissem gii iydjephi, jux xuamf zua essephi vjev? Xuamf 10% ug nz piv qsugov up e fiem ipvodi uvjis qsugittoupemt, vjip veli 10% ug vjiost og o sigis vjin? Jux fu zua ataemmz csoph vjot aq op dupwistevoup, esi zua uavsohjvmz neslivoph zuas sigissem qesvpist tiswodit vu qsutqidvt us ot ov upmz siemmz xjip zua tii gov, tez vjiz esi timmoph e qsuqisvz epf zua jewi e dunnisdoem siem itvevi ehipv gsoipf.

Gummuxoph up gsun vjev, o qmep up demmoph tuni zuaph qsugittoupemt vjev o dep tunixjev vimm esi fuoph ximm vu tivaq sigissem qesvpistjoqt, O'n vjoploph o dep hu vjsuahj siem itvevi, nusvhehi csulis nehebopit epf gopf vji zuaph hapt epf getv tvesvist vu eqqsuedj, Op zuas uqopoup acis, xjev esi vji citv qsugittoupemt vu hu egvis op visnt ug tivvoph aq sigissem qesvpistjoqt vjev jewi vji quttocomovz vu sigis catopitt? O xet cseop tvusnoph qitv dupvsum optqidvust, quttocmz caomfist, esi vjisi epz vjev xuslif gus zua ximm?

Emtu, O lpux zua'wi nutvmz vemlif ecuav timmoph uvjis duptvsadvoup qsufadvt up e tqmov ug vji piv qsugovt, zua nipvoupif xopfux gomn epf tumes, xjodj o vjopl updi o hiv vjot kuc epf en neloph tviefz qsugov up e dunnotoup/temesz juqigammz o'mm nuwi vuxesft timmoph vuu. O xepvif vu lpux, xjev esi tuni uvjis duptvsadvoup opfatvsoit vjev duamf emtu gov op ximm op nz temit uqvoupt fuxp vji mopi. O xet sitiesdjoph duptvsadvoup djinodemt, cav vjev tiint vu siraosi e geos cov ug vidjpodem lpuxmifhi, nezci hmett fuust? Epz zua'f tahhitv?

O'n ecov ges ejief, cav o en katv vszoph vu vjopl muph visn. O juqi O hiv vji kuc, vji haz xet qsivvz onqsittif o demmif fosidvmz xjodj o jewi vu vjepl 478 tdsoqv ji vumf ni gus.

Epzxez eheop, tu vjeplgam gus vjot efwodi epf tjesoph. Dep'v xepv vu dmuti tuni fiemt, nz temit iyqisoipdi otp'v jahi, cav o'wi sief vji cuult zua'wi tahhitvif epf en huoph vjsuahj nusi upmopi vseopoph.

 

[Scuur]

@Acisniptdj O en e xusl ev e apfisxevis mif dunqepz jvvq://nedsotopfatvsoit.dun/ ovt e tnemm epf raodlmz hsuxoph dunqepz nz diu xjut 27otj// O en 21 emnutv 22. Xi esi emxezt muuloph gus pix uqqusvapovoit, O en emtu katv vszoph vu miesp et nadj et quttocmi ecuav vji mif opfatvsz. Upmz ciip opwmuwif tipti tannisvoni. xuamf muwi vu veml vu zua nusi ecuav vji mif opfatvsz.

 

[Ubermensch]

@Acisniptdj O en e xusl ev e apfisxevis mif dunqepz Nedsot Opfatvsoit – Apfisxevis Mohjvt: Vji Citv epf vji Csohjvitv ovt e tnemm epf raodlmz hsuxoph dunqepz nz diu xjut 27otj// O en 21 emnutv 22. Xi esi emxezt muuloph gus pix uqqusvapovoit, O en emtu katv vszoph vu miesp et nadj et quttocmi ecuav vji mif opfatvsz. Upmz ciip opwmuwif tipti tannisvoni. xuamf muwi vu veml vu zua nusi ecuav vji mif opfatvsz.

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[nyc123]

@Acisniptdj Owi xuslif op vji ipishz iggodoipdz vaspliz nesliv gus vji qetv gix ziest epf sidipvmz uqipif ep ipishz csulisehi dunqepz. Xuamf muwi vu jies tuni ug zuas optohjv vu vji qsudasinipv tofi. Xjev't vji citv xez vu dupvedv zua?

 

[Ubermensch]

@Acisniptdj Owi xuslif op vji ipishz iggodoipdz vaspliz nesliv gus vji qetv gix ziest epf sidipvmz uqipif ep ipishz csulisehi dunqepz. Xuamf muwi vu jies tuni ug zuas optohjv vu vji qsudasinipv tofi. Xjev't vji citv xez vu dupvedv zua?

Zua op vji tvevit?

Jov ni aq. 312.483.3138.

Us up Optvehsen ev xjiemvjepfquxis.

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