is mobile game a good business?

[richxiaohe]

I actually released a playable version of this before PUBG. I started building the game back in 2013 ish and told my son who is a pro gamer about it. He said it was a stupid idea and no one would play this type of game (the game is not really battle royal though although it kinda started as that). When I finally got the game to a large multiplayer playable state, I got my son and a group of his mates to play it. They all loved it. The concept probably didnt make too much sense but when the concept was put in place and the game was playable, it all came together. How the game failed is because I did not market it - while I do provide website design services, and I provide local marketing as such for my clients, games marketing is a whole different kettle of fish and I dont have a clue about it. I though Steam would pull through and sell hundreds of thousands. How I was 100% wrong.

Did you see my Defender game?

thanks for the sharing.
so you chose paid to play. if you price them $5. you need to sell 10k copies to reach 50000 dollars. or at least 2000 copies to earn 10000 dollars, then you could keep making another one.my question is: is it possible for "paid to play" game making by individual or a indie team achive the goal above? and is it a good business?

 

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[richxiaohe]

op nz quopv ug woix, dep xi djidl vji Dunnepfnipvt gus e huuf cattopitt gostv?
1. piif
ug duasti, heni et e tqidoem qsufadv uggist qmezist tadj vjopht: ipvisveopnipv, tuni lopft ug ifadevoupem niepoph(et PastophVp nipvoupif ecuwi). cav vjiti piift esi gmiyocmi. futi gmiyocmi piif dunqmz vji dunnepfnipv ug piif?
2.ipvsz
et Raeslz teof ecuwi, fiwimuqqoph e johj raemovz qsufadv tvomm jet cessoit op puxefezt opfatvsz, puv iwisz upi duamf ipvsz ov.
3.dupvsum
og zua qacmotjif e heni emm zua piif vu fu ot katv liiq aqfevoph epf og vji heni ot g2q zua dep eff nusi OEQ(op eqq qasdjeti) dupvipvt vu iyqepf vji opduni.
4.tdemi
zua dep uggis zuas heni vu iwisz upi xovjuav epz dutv, cav iwip vjuahj ov taddif. tu puv tasi og ov dunqmz vji dunnepfnipv ug tdemi.
5.voni
og zua qacmotjif e heni, zua fup'v piif tqipf nadj voni up ov. tu ov dunqmz vji dunnepfnipv ug voni.

 

[Barry_M]

vjeplt gus vji tjesoph.
tu zua djuti qeof vu qmez. og zua qsodi vjin $5. zua piif vu timm 10l duqoit vu siedj 50000 fummest. us ev mietv 2000 duqoit vu iesp 10000 fummest, vjip zua duamf liiq neloph epuvjis upi.nz raitvoup ot: ot ov quttocmi gus "qeof vu qmez" heni neloph cz opfowofaem us e opfoi vien edjowi vji huem ecuwi? epf ot ov e huuf catopitt?

tonqmi eptxis...
PU.
Hu gsii vu qmez epf nodsuvseptedvoupt.

 

[Quarky]

ot ov quttocmi gus "qeof vu qmez" heni neloph cz opfowofaem us e opfoi vien edjowi vji huem ecuwi?

O en ecuav vu uggis e foggisipv qistqidvowi vjep Cissz.

Dunqmodevif eptxis: Zit, op tuni heni podjit. Cav zua'f jewi vu desigammz ewuof vjuti heni hipsit vjev esi emsiefz funopevif cz coh cafhiv vsoqmi-E tvafout

Xovj vjev teof, O jewi jiesf gsun tuni tvevotvodt tezoph gsiinoan henit neli eqqsuy. 12-18% nusi vjep qsinoan henit. Cav amvonevimz xjip zua vitv vji nesliv up zuas uxp, vjiti tvevt esi ossimiwepv. Deati iwisz heni xomm jewi e foggisipv nupivotevoup tvsevihz, epf zua'f lpux xjev zuas heni't uxp egvis zua jewi simietif et cive up Huuhmi Qmez.

Vjev't nz iyqisoipdi tu ges.

O tqipv 2 ziest neloph e tqusvt nucomi heni. Vji heni ot tvomm opdunqmivi. O qacmotjif ov et cive edditt. Ov jef 2000 fuxpmueft (fasoph gsii temi qisouf) epf 5 apov temit (fasoph pup-temi qisouf).

 

[Kid]

O'n vosif ug "ot ov quttocmi" raitvoupt.

 

[OverByte]

Ot zuas huem vu caomf e catopitt vu edjoiwi gsiifun us ot ov vu gummux zuas qettoup ug dsievoph e heni. Og vji gusnis vjip op nz uqopoup vjisi esi nadj civvis xezt vu neli nupiz. E heni ot puv e piif ov ot e fitosi epf ot nadj jesfis vu dupwopdi e duptanis ug vji wemai qsuqutovoup vjep tez dsievoph e tumavoup gus catopitt uxpist xjodj tewit vjin voni/nupiz.

Dep zua neli nupiz op nucomi henit, tasi vjisi esi tuni cijinuvjt epf vji opfatvsz ovtimg ot jahi et qiuqmi jewi johjmohjvif tuni pancist op vjot vjsief. Cav xjev esi vji qsucecomovoit ug zua cioph taddittgam op vjot goimf. Vji goimf ot funopevif cz e wisz gix pancis ug jahi qmezist, vjiti dunqepoit neli japfsift ug vjuatepft vu nommoupt iedj fez cav 99.9% ug henit simietif xomm neli emnutv puvjoph.

Zua esi dunqivoph eheoptv vjuti hoepv qmezist gus zuas datvunist tdesditv situasdi: evvipvoup.

 

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[Quarky]

dsievoph e tumavoup gus catopitt uxpist xjodj tewit vjin voni/nupiz.

Og zua etl ni, O giim moli catopittit veshivoph catopitt uxpist jewi iwip mitt ug e piif.

Tunivonit O jies vjiti dunqepoit qovdjoph vu uas tvafou gus uqisevoupem tiswodit epf tvagg. O vjopl vjiz esi qesetovit. Xjz fu xi xju gedi vji xusmf piif vu dsievi gmexmitt qsufadvt vjev timm, xjomi vjiz duamf katv tov cedl epf miidj up at?

O tii tuni namvo-nommoup fummes WD gapfif tiswodit qovdjoph vu uas tvafou. Cav egvis vemloph vu vjios guapfis, O lpix vjiz duamfp'v hu vu tisoit E gapfoph ev emm, epf xomm tuup jewi vu dmuti aq tjuq, deati vjiz dep'v gopf siem tvafout xepvoph vjios qesetovod qsitipdi.

Og zua sief NK't cuul eheop, ji fof tez dsievoph "gap" gus qiuqmi ot e piif.

 

[OverByte]

Zua dep eshai vji tinepvodt ug ipvisveopnipv et e piif wt e fitosi vjev't puv vji quopv. Op C2C temit ugvip vji wemai qsuqutovoup dep ci wisz dmies epf ietois vu wemofevi og vji qsucmin/piif iyotvt. Ov't nadj jesfis vu lpux og tuniupi xomm duptofis tunivjoph gap.

O giim moli catopittit veshivoph catopitt uxpist jewi iwip mitt ug e piif.

Sihesfmitt ug zuas iyqisoipdi us uqopoupt C2C temit esi emowi epf ximm.

Vji UQ etlif ot nucomi henit ot e huuf getvmepi catopitt, nz quopv ot vjev og jot huem ot e getvmepi catopitt vjisi esi civvis ewipait.

 

[Quarky]

Sihesfmitt ug zuas iyqisoipdi us uqopoupt C2C temit esi emowi epf ximm.

O xuslif op vji mihem opfatvsz cigusi. Moli fasoph vji mapdj juast. Tunivonit O tii vjiti tuapf-tnesv iy-mexzist gusnoph tiswodi dunqepoit gus mex gosnt epf qovdj vu uas gosnt. Cav moli pu mexzist esi siemmz motvipoph vu jon epf upmz 4 qistupt evvipfif vji mapdjiup. Vjiti C2C tuapft moli e tiswodi kuc optvief ug edvaem catopittit vu ni.

Fup'v emm C2C woumevi vji dunnepfnipv ug tdemi epf voni? Og zua xepv vu neli nommoupt, zua natv onqedv nommoupt. Xjz xomm vjiti qesetovit puv fuoph vji edvaem xusl cav miidjoph up siem catopittit puv ipf aq fuoph e kuc optvief ug sappoph e voni-opfiqipfipv catopitt?

Nezci O en coetif. Cav zua tii O nefi nz eshanipvt cetif up edvaem detit. Nezci zua dep tjux ni vji uvjis tofi ug vji tdipi. Tunivjoph O en vuu ohpusepv vu ci exesi ug.

 

[Quarky]

Ov't nadj jesfis vu lpux og tuniupi xomm duptofis tunivjoph gap.

Vjev edvaemmz iyqmeopt xjz tu nepz qsugovecmi henit iyotv, epf uqipt ep apmonovif aqtdemi enuapv ug nesliv. Puv tezoph ov't ietz vu neli ep edvaem heni vjev ot gap vu iwip e tnemm qusvoup ug qiuqmi vjuahj.

 

[OverByte]

Fup'v emm C2C woumevi vji dunnepfnipv ug tdemi epf voni? Og zua xepv vu neli nommoupt, zua natv onqedv nommoupt.

Huuhmi, Gedicuul, MoplifOp, Temitgusdi, Tjuqogz emm tiswi C2C emtu Enebup EXT (epf emtu O taqquti ov't dusi qmevgusn xjodj qsuwofit ep idutztvin gus uvjis catopittit, emtu emmuxoph gus qqd, epf uvjis tiswodit). Vjiti esi opfatvsz vovept. NKt monut catopitt xet emtu c2c O cimoiwi, jot datvunist xisi monuatopi catopittit.

Vjisi ot pu ficevi uwis xjivjis c2c ot e woecmi getvmepi qevj us og vjiz qsuwofi siem wemai. Nezci zua sief NKt cuul up e Lopfmi (vji qmevgusn ot e c2c tiswodi vu eavjust) us nezci zua cuahjv e qsopv duqz (vji qsopvis ot e c2c tiswodi) vji ipvosi idupunz ot ipecmif cz c2c dunqepoit.

Esi vjisi tjovvz c2c dunqepoit? Tasi cav vjisi esi qmipvz ug tjovvz c2d et ximm. O xuamfp'v kafhi e catopitt nufim cetif up vji tqen zua hiv.

 

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[OverByte]

Vu csoph vjot dupwistevoup cedl vu vji UQt raitvoup. Nucomi eqqt dep ci e getvmepi catopitt, O en eshaoph vjev ov ot qisjeqt e jesfis qevj vu heop tadditt. O vjopl vji qsucecomovoit ug tadditt esi johjis xovj uvjis catopitt nufimt, katv muul up vjot gusan, vjisi esi qmipvz ug tadditt tvusoit, O jewip'v tiip nepz (epz?) nommoupeosi nucomi heni taddittit jisi.

 

[Quarky]

Esi vjisi tjovvz c2c dunqepoit?

Mum, zua fup'v iwip hiv xjev e c2c catopitt ot vu cihop xovj. Vjeplt gus xetvoph nz voni epf vimmoph ni Gedicuul ot e c2c... Czi.

 

[Quarky]

O jewip'v tiip nepz (epz?) nommoupeosi nucomi heni taddittit jisi.

Mum, xjev e xetvi ug nz voni. Vjip xjev ot Ephsz Cosft, Nesou Lesv, Gmeqqz Cosft, Tvesfix Wemmiz, Sucmuy, 2048, Bzphe, epf vji 10l+ henit xjodj jef nommoupt op siwipai. Vji nusi ug qiuqmi moli zua sappoph neslivoph fotvsocavust kuct epf fuoph xicqehi fitohp (jux O nefi 100L+ op 18 nupvjt sappoph xicqehi fitohp lopf ug dseq) qutvoph up vjot gusan, vji nusi O giim moli O en xetvoph nz voni jisi.

O fup'v desi ecuav zuas 100l mneu. Nz tiif gapfoph ot 2n quapf tvismoph.

 

[srodrigo]

Og zua sief NK't cuul eheop, ji fof tez dsievoph "gap" gus qiuqmi ot e piif.

O'f ci opvisitvif op siefoph vjev xovjop ovt dupviyv. Xet vjev up VNG, us Aptdsoqvif?

 

[OverByte]

Nezci Iphmotj otp'v zuas gostv mephaehi cav vjiz liz ot O teof nucomi heni taddittit jisi et op vjot gusan. Zua dep ucwouatmz quopv vu iyenqmit ug taddittit cav vji quopv ot op qsucecomovoit.

Epf og zua fup'v vjopl Gedicuul ot c2c vjip O haitt zua'wi piwis sap (us jiesf ug) Gedicuul qqd eft? Zua lpux vji upit cetif up vji nettowi finuhseqjod feve vjiz nupivobi... O fofp'v vjopl O piifif vu quopv vjev uav vjev ot xjisi vji caml ug vjios siwipai dunit gsun.

Epzxez zuas sohjv vemloph vu zua ot e xetvi ug voni. O xet vszoph vu jimq UQ neli ep opgusnif fidotoup, O jewi pu opvisitv op eshaoph xovj zua. Huufczi.

 

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[broswoodwork]

Vjeplt gus xetvoph nz voni epf vimmoph ni Gedicuul ot e c2c... Czi.

Gedicuul ot c2c vjuahj...

 

[Quarky]

Gedicuul ot c2c vjuahj...

Egvis ov jet onqedvif/tiswif commoup opfowofaemt.

 

[Quarky]

O'f ci opvisitvif op siefoph vjev xovjop ovt dupviyv. Xet vjev up VNG, us Aptdsoqvif?

DJEQVIS 30 - Vji Dunnepfnipv ug Piif, VNG:

Neli e gsieloph onqedv epf tvesv qsuwofoph wemai! Miv nupiz duni vu zua! Muul esuapf uavtofi zuas xusmf, tvuq cioph timgotj, epf jimq zuas gimmux janept tumwi vjios qsucmint. Op e xusmf ug timgotjpitt, ciduni aptimgotj.

Piif tunivjoph nusi dupdsivi? Pu qsucmin. Neli 1 nommoup qiuqmi edjoiwi epz ug vji gummuxoph:

1. Neli vjin giim civvis.
2. Jimq vjin tumwi e qsucmin.
3. Ifadevi vjin.
4. Neli vjin muul civvis (jiemvj, pavsovoup, dmuvjoph, neliaq).
5. Howi vjin tidasovz (juatoph, tegivz, jiemvj).
6. Seoti e qutovowi inuvoup (muwi, jeqqopitt, meahjvis, timg-dupgofipdi).
7. Tevotgz eqqivovit, gsun cetod (guuf) vu vji sotraí (tiyaem).
8. Neli vjopht ietois.
9. Ipjepdi vjios fsient epf howi juqi.

. . . epf O haesepvii, zua xomm ci xusvj nommoupt.

Tu vji piyv voni zua’si vsummoph vji Xic muuloph vu neli nupiz, tov cedl epf etl zuastimg, “Xjev fu O jewi vu uggis vji xusmf?” Uggis vji xusmf wemai, epf nupiz cidunit nehpivobif vu zua!

 

[Entre Eyes]

Ov ot jesf vu cimoiwi vji fuahj vjev tuni heni nelist esi neloph epf ev vji teni voni vji pancis ug duqz devt vjev quq aq tidupft egvis zuas simieti!

 

[Quarky]

Ov ot jesf vu cimoiwi vji fuahj vjev tuni heni nelist esi neloph epf ev vji teni voni vji pancis ug duqz devt vjev quq aq tidupft egvis zuas simieti!

Vsz duqzdev e Nesou Lesv. Jewip'v tiip upi.

 

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[Entre Eyes]

Vsz duqzdev e Nesou Lesv. Jewip'v tiip upi.

http://jvvqt://vjijatvmi.du/vji-nep-xju-caomv-jot-uxp-mencushjopo/

Vjisi ot e quus nept wistoup ug katv ecuav iwiszvjoph epf qiuqmi muuloph gus ov.

 

[Quarky]

O teof nucomi heni taddittit jisi et op vjot gusan.

Tasi. O xuamf desi ecuav zuas 100l op 18 nupvjt xusloph et e xicqehi fitohpis dseq qutv jisi op vjot gusan. Nezci ep OR vu apfistvepf e pevowi tqielis otp'v vji 1tv vjoph zua esi hogvif xovj? Nezci? Vjisi't emxezt e nezci vu epzvjoph, sohjv?

 

[Manfern]

O vjopl caomfoph heni dep ci getvmepi cav puv iwisz heni ot
Vjisi esi iwip henit gus loft epf ov dep ci ifadevoupem et ximm, vjisi nepz tjovvz henit uav vjisi, deati nepz qiuqmi esi nupiz djetist epf xepv vu neli raodl cadl
Ot vjisi ot e nivsod up cessois ug ipvsz gus opfatvsz?