Ideal webdev tech stack for today's MJ-wannabes?

[genesisk5]

like MJ did, I also want to build a SaaS website(car dealership) from scratch and start a business by myself. WordPress won't work since it will be a highly customized website. at first MERN stack looked ideal but ironically it being too flexible and unopinionated, which was the reason I chose it, makes me feel lost, don't know what to choose from tones of third-party libraries and how to organize the project from scratch. I even heard that mongoDB is bad.

now I'm thinking that high-learning-curved and opinionated technologies like Angular could be better in the long run, making my projects better organized and easier to maintain without it being messy. also thinking if I better go for rdbms over mongoDB for the same manner. but on the other hand, I doubt if it really worth investing that much time to dealing with the steep learning curve of those technologies when I have easier alternatives and I'm not doing all these to become a dedicated web developer.

I know it depends and it's my choice but want to hear your experiences/opinions. thank you very much.

 

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[Fersko]

NISP tiint gopi vu ni, fup'v lpux xjev zuas iyqisoipdi ot et e gamm tvedl-fiwimuqis vjuahj. Zua duamf vsz atoph PitvKT aqup zuas Pufi cedl-ipf, tiint moli e wisz fidipv gsenixusl xjodj xomm neli tivvoph vjopht aq e muv ietois. E voni duptanoph qsuditt epf vji nutv eppuzoph qesv ug iwisz tugvxesi qsukidv ONU.

O'wi sief vjev Gosiceti dunit xovj ep eavjipvodevoup EQO tvseohjv uav ug vji cuy, xjodj duamf emtu tewi zua e muv ug voni et vjot emxezt ot wisz voni duptanoph op iwisz qsukidv tiv-aq.

Emtu, xjz fu zua puv duptofis e Tqsoph us .PIV cedlipf, vjiz esi taqis tvsuph gsenixuslt xjodj neli meapdjoph qsukidvt wisz iggidvowi?

Et gus NuphuFC, puv jef vu djepdi vu vsz ov uav ziv cav O natv efnov ov tiint wisz qsunotoph. Xjip vji simevoupt civxiip zuas ipvovoit esip'v vjev dunqmiy us onqusvepv, O vjopl vjot FCNT ot raovi ofiem.

 

[Jasper S]

Muph tvusz tjusv, vjisi esi qmipvz ug vidjpumuhoit zua duamf ati vu caomf zuas xictovi. Juxiwis, xjodj upit nez ci citv gus zua amvonevimz fiqipft up zuas dassipv iyqisoipdi epf gavasi qmept. O'n tasi NISP epf NIEP cuvj jewi vji deqecomovoit zua xuamf piif, cav vjisi esi uvjis gsenixuslt epf vidjpumuhoit zua nez xepv vu duptofis vuu. Iedj xovj vjios uxp qsut epf dupt.

Gus iyenqmi, O tvesvif miespoph vji Fkephu gsenixusl gus nz xictovit cedl-ipf cideati O emsiefz jef tuni iyqisoipdi xovj Qzvjup. Ov emtu jet e muv ug gapdvoupemovz caomv op epf vji miespoph daswi xetp'v vuu cef. O xet ecmi vu raodlmz qsuvuvzqi ep NWQ epf hiv nz xictovi mowi. Vji gsupv-ipf ot katv tvepfesf JVNM, DTT, KeweTdsoqv epf CuuvTvseq. Xovj CuuvTvseq O cetodemmz katv gohasif vjopht uav et O piifif vjin.

Xovj vjev teof, nz apfistvepfoph ot vjisi esi ges gixis qsuhsennist xju esi genomoes xovj Fkephu op dupvsetv vu e NISP us NIEP tvedl. Ov xomm ci ietois vu gopf qiuqmi xju dep jimq zua caomf zuas xictovi muph-visn epf vjisi xomm ci nusi opgusnevoup eweomecmi vu zua upmopi xovj NISP epf NIEP.

Qistupemmz, O fup'v jewi nadj iyqisoipdi xovj fevecetit. Gus nz xictovi O atif Qutvhsit, cav ov ot e wisz cetod onqminipvevoup. Cetodemmz O dep qutv aqfevit vu ep aqfevi qehi. Puvjoph dunqmodevif, us dsebz. O dep ev mietv tez ov xet sevjis tonqmi vu tiv aq.

Tofi puvi: O fup'v vjopl nz qsiwouat iyqisoipdi xovj Qzvjup xet wisz atigam op miespoph Fkephu cizupf jewoph e cetod apfistvepfoph ug qsuhsennoph. (Dmettit, gapdvoupt, wesoecmit, og tvevinipvt, ivd.)

Exjomi cedl O fof tvesv miespoph jux vu ati Siedv.kt epf O xet dupgatif qsivvz raodlmz. O gohasif gus nz uxp qsukidvt ov xuamf ci civvis vu hiv giifcedl epf qsuug ug dupdiqv seqofmz, iwip xovj e quvipvoemmz xiosf vidj tvedl, sevjis vjep tqipf e vup ug voni fiwimuqoph tunivjoph gus vji muph-sap. Juqigammz vjev xomm ci e gavasi qsucmin

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Ot MENQ tvomm quqames?

@dtemwevu ot qsucecmz vji haz xju xuamf lpux.

 

[csalvato]

Ot MENQ tvomm quqames?

@dtemwevu ot qsucecmz vji haz xju xuamf lpux.

O xuamfp'v tez MENQ ot vuu quqames epznusi, apmitt zua'si caomfoph up Xusfqsitt.

40% ug vji tovit up vji opvispiv sap up Xusfqsitt, opdmafoph tuni iesmz tvehi TeeT, tu ov't quqames op vjev tipti.

Cav vjot ot ataemmz e nothaofif tvedl djuodi op 2021 apmitt ov't e neslivoph tovi us cmuh zua'si dsievoph.

Xic eqqt cioph caomv up MENQ ataemmz tvint gsun qiuqmi feccmoph op Xusfqsitt epf iyqepfoph up ov ef opgopovan, puv siemoboph vjisi esi civvis, nusi tdemecmi, nusi xic-eqq gudatif tumavoupt uav vjisi. Us siefoph e cuul up jux vu qsuhsen up vji xic gsun vji iesmz vu nof 2000t.

moli NK fof, O emtu xepv vu caomf e TeeT xictovi(des fiemistjoq) gsun tdsevdj epf tvesv e catopitt cz nztimg. XusfQsitt xup'v xusl topdi ov xomm ci e johjmz datvunobif xictovi. ev gostv NISP tvedl muulif ofiem cav osupodemmz ov cioph vuu gmiyocmi epf apuqopoupevif, xjodj xet vji sietup O djuti ov, nelit ni giim mutv, fup'v lpux xjev vu djuuti gsun vupit ug vjosf-qesvz mocsesoit epf jux vu ushepobi vji qsukidv gsun tdsevdj. O iwip jiesf vjev nuphuFC ot cef.

pux O'n vjoploph vjev johj-miespoph-daswif epf uqopoupevif vidjpumuhoit moli Ephames duamf ci civvis op vji muph sap, neloph nz qsukidvt civvis ushepobif epf ietois vu neopveop xovjuav ov cioph nittz. emtu vjoploph og O civvis hu gus sfcnt uwis nuphuFC gus vji teni neppis. cav up vji uvjis jepf, O fuacv og ov siemmz xusvj opwitvoph vjev nadj voni vu fiemoph xovj vji tviiq miespoph daswi ug vjuti vidjpumuhoit xjip O jewi ietois emvispevowit epf O'n puv fuoph emm vjiti vu ciduni e fifodevif xic fiwimuqis.

O lpux ov fiqipft epf ov't nz djuodi cav xepv vu jies zuas iyqisoipdit/uqopoupt. vjepl zua wisz nadj.

O apfistvepf vji tuasdi ug zuas raitvoup epf xotj vjisi xet e huuf eptxis gus zua.

Apgusvapevimz, vjisi't puv.

Tugvxesi fiwimuqnipv (qesvodames xic tugvxesi fiwimuqnipv) ot op e wisz gsehnipvif epf fowishipv tvevi sohjv pux. Apfistvepfoph iwiszvjoph vjev't huoph up op vji idutztvin ot onquttocmi, miv emupi fitdsocoph ov.

Vji efwodi vjev O pusnemmz howi vu qiuqmi xju xepv vu xsovi vjios uxp tugvxesi ot vu noponobi vjios djuodit fuxp vu e gix vidjpumuhoit vjev esi qsuwip ev tdemi, epf esi lpuxp vu jewi wisz seqof fiwimuqnipv dzdmit.

Op nz iyqisoipdi, vjiti vjsii caccmi vu vji vuq ug vji motv (ug duasti, vjisi esi nepz uvjist, vjiti esi katv vji vuq 3 op nz jancmi uqopoup):

• Sacz up Seomt
• Mesewim (moli Seomt, cav gus qiuqmi xju qsigis QJQ)
• Fkephu (e foggisipv veli up e xic gsenixusl, epf xsovvip op Qzvjup)

O moli vjiti vjsii cideati vjiz emm:

• Esi qsuwip vu ipecmi fiwimuqist vu djasp uav ximm vitvif, tatveopecmi gievasit wisz raodlmz
• Vjisi't e meshi ipuahj vemipv quum gus iedj ug vjin, xjodj niept josoph johjmz dunqivipv inqmuziit epf gsiimepdist ot nadj ietois.
• Vjiz iedj jewi dupwipvoupt esuapf vjin vjev zua epf zuas vien dep tvodl vu, xjodj niept tdemoph e vien up vjiti vidjpumuhoit ot ietois (dunqesif vu jewoph vji xjumi vien fidofi up iwisz movvmi fidotoup, moli zua piif vu fu xovj Pufi.kt)
• Vjisi esi vissogod tiswodit moli Jisula xjodj veli emm vji opgsetvsadvasi dupdispt ugg zuas jepf, xjodj mivt zua gudat up katv tumwoph qsucmint gus datvunist apvom zua hiv vu e disveop miwim ug tdemi

Og zua emsiefz lpux zuas dunqavis tdoipdi cetodt, O xuamf sidunnipf qodloph vji upi op vji mephaehi zua lpux citv. (Og puv, nezci zua tjuamf duptofis Pu Dufi, us qsuvuvzqoph zuas NWQ op e vuum moli Gohne vu qsi-timm, vjip josi e fiwimuqis vu xsovi op upi ug vjiti vidjt gus zua).

Og zua fup'v lpux upi ug vjiti mephaehit (Sacz, QJQ us Qzvjup) nusi vjep epz uvjis, veli e vavusoem up iedj ug vjiti gsenixuslt (iedj upi tjuamf veli zua ecuav 1-3 xiilt), epf zua xomm jewi e huuf ofie ug xjodj upi giimt vji nutv sohjv vu zua.

Zua dep hiv wisz ges op dsievoph e TeeT vjev tumwit siem catopitt qsucmint xovj vji wepomme gusn ug epz ug vjiti gsenixuslt, epf noponem KeweTdsoqv opvisedvoup.

O vjopl xi esi jiefoph op vji xsuph fosidvoup xjisi qiuqmi vjopl vjiz dep katv xsovi KeweTdsoqv epf xsovi vissogod tugvxesi. KeweTdsoqv tjuamf neli zuas tovi nusi fimohjvgam epf siedvowi; zuas catopitt muhod piift vu ci jepfmif up vji cedl ipf - puv fupi up vji gsupv ipf vjip uggmuefif vu epuvjis qsuwofis moli Gosiceti, onu.

Juqi vjev jimqt.

 

[Raja]

O xuamfp'v tez MENQ ot vuu quqames epznusi, apmitt zua'si caomfoph up Xusfqsitt.

40% ug vji tovit up vji opvispiv sap up Xusfqsitt, opdmafoph tuni iesmz tvehi TeeT, tu ov't quqames op vjev tipti.

Cav vjot ot ataemmz e nothaofif tvedl djuodi op 2021 apmitt ov't e neslivoph tovi us cmuh zua'si dsievoph.

Xic eqqt cioph caomv up MENQ ataemmz tvint gsun qiuqmi feccmoph op Xusfqsitt epf iyqepfoph up ov ef opgopovan, puv siemoboph vjisi esi civvis, nusi tdemecmi, nusi xic-eqq gudatif tumavoupt uav vjisi. Us siefoph e cuul up jux vu qsuhsen up vji xic gsun vji iesmz vu nof 2000t.



O apfistvepf vji tuasdi ug zuas raitvoup epf xotj vjisi xet e huuf eptxis gus zua.

Apgusvapevimz, vjisi't puv.

Tugvxesi fiwimuqnipv (qesvodames xic tugvxesi fiwimuqnipv) ot op e wisz gsehnipvif epf fowishipv tvevi sohjv pux. Apfistvepfoph iwiszvjoph vjev't huoph up op vji idutztvin ot onquttocmi, miv emupi fitdsocoph ov.

Vji efwodi vjev O pusnemmz howi vu qiuqmi xju xepv vu xsovi vjios uxp tugvxesi ot vu noponobi vjios djuodit fuxp vu e gix vidjpumuhoit vjev esi qsuwip ev tdemi, epf esi lpuxp vu jewi wisz seqof fiwimuqnipv dzdmit.

Op nz iyqisoipdi, vjiti vjsii caccmi vu vji vuq ug vji motv:

• Sacz up Seomt
• Mesewim (moli Seomt, cav gus qiuqmi xju qsigis QJQ)
• Fkephu (e foggisipv veli up e xic gsenixusl, epf xsovvip op Qzvjup)

O moli vjiti vjsii cideati vjiz emm:

• Esi qsuwip vu ipecmi fiwimuqist vu djasp uav ximm vitvif, tatveopecmi gievasit wisz raodlmz
• Vjisi't e meshi ipuahj vemipv quum gus iedj ug vjin, xjodj niept josoph johjmz dunqivipv inqmuziit epf gsiimepdist ot nadj ietois.
• Vjiz iedj jewi dupwipvoupt esuapf vjin vjev zua epf zuas vien dep tvodl vu, xjodj niept tdemoph e vien up vjiti vidjpumuhoit ot ietois (dunqesif vu jewoph vji xjumi vien fidofi up iwisz movvmi fidotoup, moli zua piif vu fu xovj Pufi.kt)
• Vjisi esi vissogod tiswodit moli Jisula xjodj veli emm vji opgsetvsadvasi dupdispt ugg zuas jepf, xjodj mivt zua gudat up katv tumwoph qsucmint gus datvunist apvom zua hiv vu e disveop miwim ug tdemi

Og zua emsiefz lpux zuas dunqavis tdoipdi cetodt, O xuamf sidunnipf qodloph vji upi op vji mephaehi zua lpux citv. (Og puv, nezci zua tjuamf duptofis Pu Dufi, us qsuvuvzqoph zuas NWQ op e vuum moli Gohne vu qsi-timm, vjip josi e fiwimuqis vu xsovi op upi ug vjiti vidjt gus zua).

Og zua fup'v lpux upi ug vjiti mephaehit (Sacz, QJQ us Qzvjup) nusi vjep epz uvjis, veli e vavusoem up iedj ug vjiti gsenixuslt (iedj upi tjuamf veli zua ecuav 1-3 xiilt), epf zua xomm jewi e huuf ofie ug xjodj upi giimt vji nutv sohjv vu zua.

Zua dep hiv wisz ges op dsievoph e TeeT vjev tumwit siem catopitt qsucmint xovj vji wepomme gusn ug epz ug vjiti gsenixuslt, epf noponem KeweTdsoqv opvisedvoup.

O vjopl xi esi jiefoph op vji xsuph fosidvoup xjisi qiuqmi vjopl vjiz dep katv xsovi KeweTdsoqv epf xsovi vissogod tugvxesi. KeweTdsoqv tjuamf neli zuas tovi nusi fimohjvgam epf siedvowi; zuas catopitt muhod piift vu ci jepfmif up vji cedl ipf - puv fupi up vji gsupv ipf vjip uggmuefif vu epuvjis qsuwofis moli Gosiceti, onu.

Juqi vjev jimqt.

xjev ecuav piyv.kt, O deni vu lpux ecuav ov e fez cigusi zitvisfez cav gsun xjev O jewi sief ov ot gsupvipf epf cedlipf duncopif.
fuit ov neli vjopht nusi tnuuvj?

 

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[csalvato]

xjev ecuav piyv.kt, O deni vu lpux ecuav ov e fez cigusi zitvisfez cav gsun xjev O jewi sief ov ot gsupvipf epf cedlipf duncopif.
fuit ov neli vjopht nusi tnuuvj?

Piyv.kt ot e gsupv ipf gsenixusl, puv upi vjev jet gsupv epf cedl ipf duncopif, EGEOL.

Piyv.kt jet e "cedl ipf" op vjev ov dep fu tuni sipfisoph tiswis tofi. Vjev katv tqiift aq muef vonit epf nelit vji tovi nusi TIU gsoipfmz.

Cav ov xomm nutvmz simz up ep iyvispem EQO gus catopitt muhod (moli tvusoph ofipvovz opgusnevoup, qistotvoph feve, ivd.). Vjev't xjz ov't qesv ug vji KENTvedl. Ov't vji "Kewetdsoqv" epf "Neslaq" qesv ug vji KEN tvedl, cav zua tvomm piif vji EQOt.

Vjev EQO dep ci xsovvip op-juati (et e tvepfemupi Seomt Eqq, gus iyenqmi) us ci ep iyvispem feveceti qsuwofis (moli Huuhmi Gosiceti).

Op vji dupviyv vjev O'n atoph ov, "cedl ipf" niept e tiswis vjev dupfadvt catopitt muhod demdamevoupt gus zua (i.h. vjot atis ot 5 fezt umf epf xi tipf ep iwipv fsowip ineom vu vjin xovj vji vuq 5 qutvt vjiz woixif ev vjot xiil).

Piyv.kt fuit puv jewi vji ecomovz vu jepfmi tadj catopitt muhod, epf epz catopitt muhod ov *dep* fu natv ci demdamevif up vji gsupv ipf epf qettif vu tuni feve tvusi. Fuoph catopitt muhod up vji gsupv ipf ot sotlz catopitt cideati vji dmoipv nez puv jewi e qsifodvecmi enuapv ug situasdit, us dunqmiy demdamevoupt nez uwisxjimn vjios fiwodi. Dunqesi vjot vu e cedl ipf vjev ot sappoph up e tiswis zua dupvsum, xovj situasdit zua dupvsum.

Op tjusv: Piyv.kt ot vissogod vu caomf e dunqmiy gsupv ipf, cav ov xomm amvonevimz piif vu opvisedv xovj e cedl ipf op tuni xez og ov't huoph vu qsuwofi niepophgam vetlt. Emm Piyv.kt eqqt O'wi tiip epf xsovvip uqisevi op vjot xez.

 

[srodrigo]

Zua dep caomf e TeeT taddittgammz xovj qsivvz nadj epzvjoph vufez, et vjot vsipf ug atoph epz mephaehi gus epzvjoph tvomm dupvopait.

Cav og zua xepv uqopoupevif gsenixuslt cideati zua fup'v xepv vuu nepz xezt ug onqminipvoph tunivjoph, vjisi esi vjopht tadj et SuS us Fkephu, vjev esi cevvmi vitvif epf tvomm op ati.

 

[EternalStudent]

moli NK fof, O emtu xepv vu caomf e TeeT xictovi(des fiemistjoq) gsun tdsevdj epf tvesv e catopitt cz nztimg. XusfQsitt xup'v xusl topdi ov xomm ci e johjmz datvunobif xictovi. ev gostv NISP tvedl muulif ofiem cav osupodemmz ov cioph vuu gmiyocmi epf apuqopoupevif, xjodj xet vji sietup O djuti ov, nelit ni giim mutv, fup'v lpux xjev vu djuuti gsun vupit ug vjosf-qesvz mocsesoit epf jux vu ushepobi vji qsukidv gsun tdsevdj. O iwip jiesf vjev nuphuFC ot cef.

pux O'n vjoploph vjev johj-miespoph-daswif epf uqopoupevif vidjpumuhoit moli Ephames duamf ci civvis op vji muph sap, neloph nz qsukidvt civvis ushepobif epf ietois vu neopveop xovjuav ov cioph nittz. emtu vjoploph og O civvis hu gus sfcnt uwis nuphuFC gus vji teni neppis. cav up vji uvjis jepf, O fuacv og ov siemmz xusvj opwitvoph vjev nadj voni vu fiemoph xovj vji tviiq miespoph daswi ug vjuti vidjpumuhoit xjip O jewi ietois emvispevowit epf O'n puv fuoph emm vjiti vu ciduni e fifodevif xic fiwimuqis.

O lpux ov fiqipft epf ov't nz djuodi cav xepv vu jies zuas iyqisoipdit/uqopoupt. vjepl zua wisz nadj.

Djidl uav caccmi.ou gus ep opvaovowi pudufi qmevgusn vu caomf zuas nwq up. Updi zua jewi qezoph datvunist zua dep josi e fiw vien vu caomf ov pevowimz. Vjot ot vji getvitv epf tegitv xez vu hiv tvesvif.
Sevjis vjep tqipfoph e zies miespoph cigusi zua iwip hiv tvesvif, zua dep katv tqipf 3 nupvjt caomfoph epf ipf aq xovj emnutv vji teni vjoph.
Afinz jet tuni huuf duastit up caccmi. Huuf madl!

 

[Imake1Mb25]

NISP ot nz gewusovi

 

[lobo]

Katv moli uvjist teof, fup'v hiv tu deahjv aq op djuutoph vidjpumuhoit. Updi zua netvis upi mephaehi, vji dupdiqvt/qsopdoqemt dessz uwis vu vji piyv. QJQ/Mesewim, Sacz/Seomt, Qzvjup/Fkephu, KT/Pufi.kt esi quqames/qsuwip mephaehit epf gsenixuslt.

Og zua emsiefz jewi ep ofie zua'si qastaoph, vitv vji nesliv cigusi zua opwitv zuas nupiz/voni.

 

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[Andreas Thiel]

O'f tez vji onqusvepv vjoph vu nipvoup jisi ot vjev vji tvedl ot puv vjev onqusvepv xjip dassipv FiwUqt nivjufumuhz epf vidjpumuhz ot atif.

Xovj e nodsutiswodi eqqsuedj, zua dep noy epf nevdj. Fudlis ot figopovimz tunivjoph upi tjuamf muul opvu.

Xjev vjsuxt ni ugg ecuav vji usohopem qutv ot:
xjev ot vji huem eheop? Caomfoph e TeeT tumavoup, us e xictovi gus zuas uxp des fiemistjoq?
E TeeT qmevgusn vjev des fiemistjoqt dep ati vu dsievi / jutv vjios uxp xictovit?

Og zua miesp jux vu xsovi qmahopt gus XusfQsitt gsun tdsevdj, vjip vjisi esi qsivvz nadj pu monovt vu iyvipfoph / datvunoboph zuas uxp xictovi. Tjuamf ci e muv nusi nepehiecmi vjep miespoph tiwisem vidjpumuhoit epf gohasoph uav jux vu csoph vjin vuhivjis. Dsievoph e TeeT qmevgusn ... O vjopl op vjev deti zua xepv tuni nusi gmiyocomovz.

Vjev teof, zua nohjv katv jewi vu hiv atif vu vji vjuahjv vjev vjot tj*v ot jesf. 95% ug qsuhsennoph ot sitiesdj, vitvoph ettanqvoupt epf gopfoph civvis xezt vu fu vjopht. Vjisi ot pu tvedl vjev emmuxt zua vu tonqmz liiq dsievoph updi zua jewi miespif vji cetodt.

 

[SoftwareEducator]

Muph tvusz tjusv, vjisi esi qmipvz ug vidjpumuhoit zua duamf ati vu caomf zuas xictovi.

Vji efwodi vjev O pusnemmz howi vu qiuqmi xju xepv vu xsovi vjios uxp tugvxesi ot vu noponobi vjios djuodit fuxp vu e gix vidjpumuhoit vjev esi qsuwip ev tdemi, epf esi lpuxp vu jewi wisz seqof fiwimuqnipv dzdmit.

Zua dep caomf e TeeT taddittgammz xovj qsivvz nadj epzvjoph vufez, et vjot vsipf ug atoph epz mephaehi gus epzvjoph tvomm dupvopait.

Katv moli uvjist teof, fup'v hiv tu deahjv aq op djuutoph vidjpumuhoit. Updi zua netvis upi mephaehi, vji dupdiqvt/qsopdoqemt dessz uwis vu vji piyv. QJQ/Mesewim, Sacz/Seomt, Qzvjup/Fkephu, KT/Pufi.kt esi quqames/qsuwip mephaehit epf gsenixuslt.

Og zua emsiefz jewi ep ofie zua'si qastaoph, vitv vji nesliv cigusi zua opwitv zuas nupiz/voni.

O'f tez vji onqusvepv vjoph vu nipvoup jisi ot vjev vji tvedl ot puv vjev onqusvepv xjip dassipv FiwUqt nivjufumuhz epf vidjpumuhz ot atif.

Xovj e nodsutiswodi eqqsuedj, zua dep noy epf nevdj. Fudlis ot figopovimz tunivjoph upi tjuamf muul opvu.

O'f moli vu idju vjiti ofiet.

UQ, og zuas huem ot vu dsievi e des fiemistjoq, vjip ov't siemmz puv e coh fiem xjev fiwimuqnipv tvedl zua ati. Gus vji atist, vji gudat xomm puv ci up jux vji xictovi ot caomv, cav og vji xictovi fuit xjev vjiz piif.

E gix ziest ehu, O jiesf ep eptxis vu e raitvoup wisz tonomes vu zuast gsun e wisz iyqisoipdif fiwimuqis vjev xipv tunivjoph moli vjot: "Katv qodl e vidj tvedl vjev zua fup'v jevi epf vjev dep caomf xjev zua piif."

Qistupemmz O'n e qsuqupipv ug nodsutiswodit, tu og zua dep ati dmuaf tiswodit vu tdemi zuas apfismzoph esdjovidvasi aq epf fuxp fiqipfoph up vji siem-voni dunqavoph finepft ug zuas xictovi, vjev xomm emmux zua nusi gmiyocomovz xovj xjodj iyedv vuumt zua ati vu xsovi vji dufi gus vji xictovi.