I went to CityData asking for advice on places to live in AZ, you won't believe what happened next!

[twdavis]

(Practicing my Facebook clickbait title writing )

But anyway I wanted them to maybe help me out with where would be good to find an apartment in Scottsdale/Phoenix and how I could work out finding a job temporarily etc.

Welll....typical slowlane/sidewalkian stuff getting thrown at me, it's entertaining lol have a look [emoji23]

http://www.city-data.com/forum/phoenix-area/2409782-22-yo-male-looking-move-scottsdale.html


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[jon.a]

Be careful, it's Sunday afternoon and Dave's online

 

[twdavis]

Be careful, it's Sunday afternoon and Dave's online

....what's that mean lol


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[vinylawesome]

(Practicing my Facebook clickbait title writing )

But anyway I wanted them to maybe help me out with where would be good to find an apartment in Scottsdale/Phoenix and how I could work out finding a job temporarily etc.

Welll....typical slowlane/sidewalkian stuff getting thrown at me, it's entertaining lol have a look [emoji23]

http://www.city-data.com/forum/phoenix-area/2409782-22-yo-male-looking-move-scottsdale.html


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Were you trolling them or was your post serious?

 

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[twdavis]

I guess maybe I should've somewhat expected the response but it just surprised me. I dont care either way, doesnt deter me one bit I just found it rather entertaining

 

[twdavis]

Were you trolling them or was your post serious?

Serious...why?


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[TTG SS]

LOL, love the typical slowlane talk in that thread.

I too am looking to move to Scottsdale AZ in the spring...Although my situation is slightly different...

From my research there seems to be plenty of sub $1000 a month rent in Scottsdale. Plenty even in the $800-850 range.

 

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[csalvato]

What did you expect them to tell you?

Hell, their advice isn't too far off mine.

You don't mention any degree or skills, you're unable to convince someone to hire you.

You don't mention a plan or give any indication that you have any idea on how how you can offer value to a landlord, an employer, potential clients or potential customers.

What exactly is your plan aside from drive to Scottsdale?

 

[twdavis]

Well, you're right, I didnt lay out a solid plan. I need to develop a few more valuable skills before I can go. Otherwise I'll probably be a fish out of water.

I have little value to offer at the moment.

 

[MKHB]

Well, you're right, I didnt lay out a solid plan. I need to develop a few more valuable skills before I can go. Otherwise I'll probably be a fish out of water.

I have little value to offer at the moment.

Note to self: buy a 7-11 in Scottsdale.

Seems to be a lot of folks with no money moving there.

Like California in the 80's..."Where are we going?.. California...what are we gonna do there? don't know - we'll figure it when we get there."

 

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[SenGracic]

Since you can do any type of work offer your skills in an ad on Craiglist that would pay your rent for a short period of time. Once you get that done 1. You have your physical address. 2. Who knows he might even offer your more work and/or talk to his friends about you that could get you some other job too. When I came to Canada that's how most immigrants were doing since we had no credit history at all.

 

[AgainstAllOdds]

Note to self: buy a 7-11 in Scottsdale.

Seems to be a lot of folks with no money moving there.

Like California in the 80's..."Where are we going?.. California...what are we gonna do there? don't know - we'll figure it when we get there."

Are people actually moving to Scottsdale, or is it just this forum? My assumption was that it's this forum.

 

[csalvato]

Are people actually moving to Scottsdale, or is it just this forum? My assumption was that it's this forum.

I'm pretty sure it's just this forum.

There is a decent entrepreneur scene out there, but it's not like San Fran or San Diego from what I can tell. But I also never lived there.

The big entrepreneur cities where people are flocking, imho, are:

• San Fran (for tech)
• Seattle (for tech)
• Austin (for tech and food)
• Brooklyn (for tech and food)
• Boston (for medical tech/med device)

IMHO Scottsdale is more of a place with a lot ton of rich people, but not necessarily high growth entrepreneurs.

 

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[twdavis]

I'm skilled in almost all of Adobe's suite. I can write copy, I've spent the last 6 months teaching myself that. I'm no master copywriter but I've been doing side work on Upwork, just not SinisterLex type income yet. I can also design websites and I'm real good with Wordpress. I can also setup ecommerce stores on Shopify and Magento and I've experimented with BigCommerce.

I can operate a forklift, not that that matters lol.




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[MKHB]

I'm skilled in almost all of Adobe's suite. I can write copy, I've spent the last 6 months teaching myself that. I'm no master copywriter but I've been doing side work on Upwork, just not SinisterLex type income yet. I can also design websites and I'm real good with Wordpress. I can also setup ecommerce stores on Shopify and Magento and I've experimented with BigCommerce.

I can operate a forklift, not that that matters lol.




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Oh, you didn't mention all your e-commerce skills.

Why would you care what a bunch of tools on Cityfeet think.

If you're willing to become an expert in excel and bang out 75-100 calls a day (sales) you won't be sleeping in your car for long.

Are people actually moving to Scottsdale, or is it just this forum? My assumption was that it's this forum.

You're probably right, but it sure is nice in winter.

 

[twdavis]

Oh, you didn't mention all your e-commerce skills.

Why would you care what a bunch of tools on Cityfeet think.

If you're willing to become an expert in excel and bang out 75-100 calls a day (sales) you won't be sleeping in your car for long.


You're probably right, but it sure is nice in winter.

I don't care what they think I just thought their responses were interesting.

Yes, I have extensive ecommerce experience and I've also worked in sales before, both for insurance and for electric and gas contracts. Averaged a 26% close rate on warm leads.


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[MKHB]

I'm skilled in almost all of Adobe's suite. I can write copy, I've spent the last 6 months teaching myself that. I'm no master copywriter but I've been doing side work on Upwork, just not SinisterLex type income yet. I can also design websites and I'm real good with Wordpress. I can also setup ecommerce stores on Shopify and Magento and I've experimented with BigCommerce.

I can operate a forklift, not that that matters lol.




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Well you have two options: get a job or sell.

It sounds like you have a lot of self-confidence - so your'e half way there.

Go get em!

 

[mayana]

I thought that most of their advice was actually not bad. Keep in mind that none of them really know you, or understood from the beginning that you aren't interested in the college+job route. They took it pretty easy on you, IMO.

You did ask for ANY suggestions, after all

That said, good luck on your moving plans. As @MKHB said, you are half-way there.

 

[MKHB]

I thought that most of their advice was actually not bad. Keep in mind that none of them really know you, or understood from the beginning that you aren't interested in the college+job route. They took it pretty easy on you, IMO.

You did ask for ANY suggestions, after all

That said, good luck on your moving plans. As @MKHB said, you are half-way there.

^^^^^Wise Words! @mayana

 

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[MKHB]

I'm pretty sure it's just this forum.

There is a decent entrepreneur scene out there, but it's not like San Fran or San Diego from what I can tell. But I also never lived there.

The big entrepreneur cities where people are flocking, imho, are:

• San Fran (for tech)
• Seattle (for tech)
• Austin (for tech and food)
• Brooklyn (for tech and food)
• Boston (for medical tech/med device)

IMHO Scottsdale is more of a place with a lot ton of rich people, but not necessarily high growth entrepreneurs.

I think MJ D should contact The Scottsdale Chamber and ask for a small promote $$ he seems to be responsible for a lot of the new pop growth.

 

[SteveO]

We are round pegs in a square holed world.

I run into problems all the time trying to get loans. It seems that the country runs on w2 income requirements.

These are problems that you will need to solve.

 

[MKHB]

We are round pegs in a square holed world.

I run into problems all the time trying to get loans. It seems that the country runs on w2 income requirements.

These are problems that you will need to solve.

BTW @stevo a little hijack here: Cushman came out with the new MF forecast for Scottsdale and it's scorching hot. mmm...development might be back.

 

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[vinylawesome]

Serious...why?


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That was my first thought to reading your City-data post. I wish you luck on your moving plans.

 

[DeletedUser394]

Look at it from their perspective.

Random guy with no money, no job, no degree, and bad credit wants to move to another state. Has zero prospects lined up. How would you respond?

You asked the same question before.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/phoenix-area/2173032-want-move-scottsdale-but.html

From July 2014 to July 2015 you were able to save zero dollars?

Why haven't you made this happen, or even at least put yourself closer to the goal, if that's what you want to do? (I don't care about the answer, it's for you to think about).

You had nearly 365 days to make your move since that last post. Had you saved as little as $10 per day, you'd have enough of a cushion for a few months rent and expenses saved up.

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You have thus far proven yourself to be incapable of doing the bare minimum to get to where you want to be, so why should anyone put faith in your ability to follow through?

You wanted to move to California as well...

Why not just make it happen. Why not make your dreams reality.

I know I sound like a douche, but I've been exactly where you are, ie, talking through my a$$ and never making my 'move' happen. However recently I was put into a position where I was FORCED to make a change.. one that I've always wanted to do. So I moved, and my life changed instantly and improved dramatically. I'm never going back to where I was. I'm a new man with new motivation.

Just F*cking do it dude. If you aren't happy, put yourself into the best position possible to be happy. Life is too short for this shit.

Don't be that broke a$$ guy that starts a new CityData thread July 2016 asking how/where he should move in Scottsdale or where ever. Be that guy that comes back to the forum while posting from your apartment facing Camelback Mountain and come tell me to go F*ck myself.

I hope you actually make this happen. You totally can, but you got to get your shit together.

 

[twdavis]

Guess it helps once in a while to be publicly debased and brought back down to earth. Thanks guys.

 

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[MKHB]

Guess it helps once in a while to be publicly debased and brought back down to earth. Thanks guys.

One of the best quotes I have ever heard came from T. Ferris.

And even though I didn't totally get his book (I stopped reading 3/4 of the way through and went back to re-reading MFL)....

"you have to become comfortable with uncomfortable conversations."

 

[DeletedUser394]

You can do it.

 

[mws87]

Go for it. The worst thing that could happen is you would have to get a shitty job for a while and find somewhere to live. Even that isn't that bad. I mean, it's not like you'll be dead or anything.

Don't be that broke a$$ guy that starts a new CityData thread July 2016 asking how/where he should move in Scottsdale or where ever. Be that guy that comes back to the forum while posting from your apartment facing Camelback Mountain and come tell me to go F*ck myself.

"What GrumpyCat said next left me SHOCKED!" lol, feeding the title of this thread a bit. That did genuinely make me L-O-L though.

In all seriousness though, OP, I say go for it man. It's clearly something you want to do, but there is also clearly a lot of fear and self-doubt still in your mind, thus causing you to seek validation. How do I know? I used to do it all the time. I catch myself still sometimes doing it and have to smack myself a bit.

Let me know how it is when you get there, I'll be joining you in the near future.

 

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[csalvato]

Guess it helps once in a while to be publicly debased and brought back down to earth. Thanks guys.

It's only debasing if you do nothing about it.

None of us have said you couldn't. We just have said you aren't.

Doing is a choice. Make it.