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Found nomad capitalist on youtube as a good resource for this topic.
He is educating about different topics all connected with 2nd citizenship.
His Line "go where you are treated best".
 
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Can you share a bit more?
A resume of what is said?
In a nutshell:
He is leading a team of people that help you, find the right solution for you regarding legal tax solutions.
Like growing wealth overseas, finding the right 2nd citizenship (he is also talking about a whole passport-portfolio).
Financial- investment- and citizenship-planning, becoming a "global citizen".
His service is directed to high income people but i found a lot of great info in his videos already for free.
 

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He's got an e-book on Amazon, bought it yesterday, it looks like exciting stuff.
You are right, he mentioned that.
If you like, share some of your insights with us if you have read it? If its a good read that you would recommend?
 

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I am a fan of this type of stuff. Thanks for posting this @CryptoCurt

I have done a lot of research on Puerto Rico and it seems to be hands down the best option for people who want to keep their USA passport. It is also an excellent option for people of other nationalities.

I look forward to being able to make the move to a place that better embraces and attracts the best and brightest instead of vilifying them.
 
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I think Bobby from global wealth protection is an expert about this subject. He is the best.
 
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Ok I read the book "Nomad Capitalist" from the guy which has the blog with the same name.

Find below a review, a summary, and notes.

Review:

Don't read this book. It will be a waste of time. I don't really know what the author had in mind when he wrote it tbh.

First thing, the author does not explain how to build businesses, nor talks extensively about the various businesses he created, bought, and sold. But he does quote Tim Ferriss' the 4h ww quite often, going as far as calling his own Nomad Capitalist lifestyle the "4 hour workweek 2.0".

So, this is a book made for people that already have a business and want to pay less taxes legally while spending less money for equal services.

The only problem is that the info given is so basic that everyone already knows about it. Like, did you know that Romania was cheaper than California? Yes, I swear it is!! What the hell.

This book is to entrepreneurs what a book about running would be to Usain Bolt: it teaches you something you're likely to know already.

The author seems to brag about the fact he got multiple passports but won't tell you from where, nor will tell you how it is done. Rather, the entire book is him telling you to "pay people that know how it is done". It's screaming content marketing from chapter 3 onward. And everything is like this: "I bought a house in Georgia, another one in Montenegro, it's great!"

Cool, dude.

The author pretends he went to more than a hundred countries, but the ones he talks about are always the same, namely:

Georgia, Montenegro, Singapore, Hong-Kong, Malaysia, Belize, Cambodia, Laos. And the United States (btw the only thing he said about Belgium...was wrong, so I can't vouch for the rest of the content, but this outlines a poor research process anyway).

Half of the book is dedicated to bashing the United States. And that's my biggest problem with the book. The author spends considerable efforts convincing you of something you're already convinced of: California has high taxes, your high-school town is boring, the government want people to slowlane their life away.... Duh. Why is he writing this? The reader likely already knows all of this. They wouldn't have opened the book otherwise.

Imagine if the millionaire fastlane started by saying how nice it is to be a millionaire without ever telling you how to become one. Well, in essence, that's what "Nomad Capitalist" does: it tells you how good of a time the author has, but "you need to do your own research" if you want to become one as well. All he'll tell you is that private hospitals in Thailand are great!

So, don't read this book, unless you want to waste your time. Rather extraordinarily, the guy's website is much more valuable than his book.

Here's a summary of the book, by chapter. I'm sorry if I sound bitter, I kinda am, this book was a huge disappointment.

Summary:

Chapter 1: My Five Magic Words: his five magic words are "go where you are treated best". Omg no one ever thought about immigrating before, thank you so much!! BTW, it's not even 5 words, but 6.
His idea is that Western governments no longer care about their people nor their country, and hike taxes to fund war projects or refund dumb debt no one desires. As such, you should leave.

Chapter 2: How to be a nomad capitalist: go on google flight, buy a ticket, board the plane, become a tax resident.

Chapter 3: The location independent lifestyle: ever heard of THE INTERNET? OMG, dude, it's going to change your life! Now, you can actually earn money from anywhere in the world if you use the Internet!! And since some places tax you more than others, why don't you go to these places???

Chapter 4: Second passports: you should get a second passport especially if you are from the US, because USA and Eritrea, are the only two countries that tax residents based on their nationalities and not on their tax residency. I am not a US citizen and I don't care, and I assume all US citizens smart enough to move abroad already know that (but I may be wrong...). If your second passport is good, you should simply abandon the US one. Unless you plan on getting kidnapped.

Chapter 5: Birth, love, and children: did you know dating was easier when you are a foreigner? Me neither.

Chapter 6: Nomad Healthcare: no need to pay for healthcare in cheap countries because the price is so low you'd lose money paying for insurance. Also the service is better.

Chapter 7: offshore banking. You can open bank accounts in many business-friendly countries just by showing up, like Romania. You should have several bank accounts so if one bank fails you do not lose all your money.

Chapter 8: offshore companies and tax savings. Open your company in a low-taxed country and have it taxed there. Some countries will not even tax it at all.

Chapter 9: foreign asset storage: sometimes you earn money, and apparently, it is better to invest it. To...what? In...v...e...s...t? Never heard of this before. Some countries will enable you to buy gold stored in secured vaults, like Austria and Singapore.

Chapter 10: Overseas investment: Same as chapter 9 but with real estate.Jeez louise, I didn't know you could invest and earn money through real estate.

Chapter 11: Frontier market entrepreneurship: the only interesting chapter. Technically, you have more chance to succeed at business in a country where there is NOTHING and people are poor than in a country where there is everything and people are rich.

Chapter 12: Conquering dogma: do not follow the herd, do your thing, that thing YOU want to do, nothing else.
From experience, the more someone is telling me to do MY OWN THING, the more they actually want me to do what they want me to do.

Chapter 13: the nomad mindset: the author brags about how his life is so much better than everyone else's, and that you should be flexible and open-minded.

Chapter 14: how to get started: you need to have a purpose, and take action.


Notes: here's what I learned, or wish to remember:

  • Borders are imaginary lines that can influence the way you are treated. Those who are badly treated leave. Or not.
  • You have been conditioned to love your country and stay there. Technically, you don't need to and are free to leave.
  • The art of the Nomad Capitalist is to take the best part of each country. Eg: put your money in Singapore, do business in the US and live in Thailand.
  • The three flags theory. Getting service in a foreign country is planting a flag. To be completely free, you need to plant three flags:
    • Get citizenship in a place that does not tax income earned outside of the country (or tax it at a low rate).
    • Have businesses and investments in stable, low or no tax countries. These are business havens.
    • Live as a tourist in countries that support your values. These are the lifetime havens, or playgrounds. It's always better to be a tourist cuz the police and government leave you alone (I can confirm).
  • The EKG theory: Enhance, Keep, Grow
Enhance your personal freedom:
a. live overseas
b. get a second passport\
c. host websites overseas
d. date/socialize overseas

Keep more of your money
a. personal tax reduction
b. offshore banking: protect your money and enjoy higher interest rates
c. corporate tax reduction

Grow your money
a. Frontier market: start a business in a less competitive/crowded market
b. Foreign real estate: get better RE deals
c. Foreign currencies: earn higher rates by holding foreign currencies

  • There are two countries in the world where you have to pay taxes because you are of that nationality: Eritrea, and the US (lmao).
  • The NC lifestyle is about doing what you want. Becoming a nomad to get drunk in Ubud like everyone else is dumb. Unless it is really what you want.
  • Practice crisis investing: invest where there is a crisis cuz chances are everything is cheaper.
  • Know why you invest into something.
  • Dont develop companies in developed or emerging markets, go where the market has not emerged yet and you will have less competition and huge growth potential.
  • How to get to know people anywhere:
    • Hire a lawyer.
    • Overpay them.
    • Get them to introduce you to everyone else (RE agents, developers, government officials, etc).
    • A lawyer can become an "everything guy".
  • Avoid the middle: get the smelly backpackers hostel, or the Shangri-la Ultimate Royal Suite Premium. Don't go for the middle, average option.
  • Don't say yes. Say "hell yeah", or no (from Derek Sivers).
  • Everyday you do nothing, there is a cost. It is up to you to determine what that cost is.
  • Uncertainty is where the magic happens.

Voila.

Best,

m.


@CryptoCurt @Kak
 
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Notes: here's what I learned, or wish to remember:

  • Borders are imaginary lines that can influence the way you are treated. Those who are badly treated leave. Or not.
  • You have been conditioned to love your country and stay there. Technically, you don't need to.
  • The art of the Nomad Capitalist is to take the best part of each country. Eg: put your money in Singapore, do business in the US and live in Thailand.
  • The three flags theory. Getting service in a foreign country is planting a flag. To be completely free, you need to plant three flags:
    • Get citizenship in a place that does not tax income earned outside of the country.
    • Have businesses and investments in stable, low or no tax countries. These are business havens.
    • Live as a tourist in countries that support your values. These are the lifetime havens, or playgrounds. It's always better to be a tourist cuz the police and government leave you alone.
  • The EKG theory: Enhance, Keep, Grow
Thanks for the book review. I remember coming across his website a couple of years ago and found his ideas interesting.

I appreciate the bullet point outline of the basic ideas. This helps a lot.
 
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Great job providing so much value to the forum recently, @mon_fi.

As for the Nomad Capitalist book, this is a great example of how NOT to use book marketing to grow your business. It doesn't matter if your book is super cheap or you want to use it as a lead magnet. It still needs to stand on its own and provide value to those who read it. If it feels like "here are the secrets but actually I won't share them here unless you hire me" then it just provides a bad experience and instead of building trust destroys it.

Rules change so specific advice as for second residency, etc. may not be a good idea for a book but there's a lot of evergreen how-to you could still include in such a book. For example:
  • how to recognize an upcoming country,
  • how to recognize when an upcoming country is on the wrong path/its future is in jeopardy (for example, Peru)
  • what are the warning signs to leave your home country?
  • what are the benefits you're losing when moving overseas? (to avoid being so one-sided - sorry but the US/European infrastructure for scaling a business is MUCH better than in, say, Cambodia)
  • navigating family/relationships issues,
  • building a network in a new country (not just a lawyer but friends you can count on, etc.)
  • what type of a business to build overseas,
  • dealing with the challenges of building a business in a country where there's possibly a lot of corruption, no infrastructure, etc.
Damn, it could have been such an excellent book...
 

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Dual US, Italian citizen here. Haven't found any methods to help on the tax front, but have not looked extensively. Thanks for mentioning this, will have to dig a little deeper.
 

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Great job providing so much value to the forum recently, @mon_fi.

As for the Nomad Capitalist book, this is a great example of how NOT to use book marketing to grow your business. It doesn't matter if your book is super cheap or you want to use it as a lead magnet. It still needs to stand on its own and provide value to those who read it. If it feels like "here are the secrets but actually I won't share them here unless you hire me" then it just provides a bad experience and instead of building trust destroys it.

Rules change so specific advice as for second residency, etc. may not be a good idea for a book but there's a lot of evergreen how-to you could still include in such a book. For example:
  • how to recognize an upcoming country,
  • how to recognize when an upcoming country is on the wrong path/its future is in jeopardy (for example, Peru)
  • what are the warning signs to leave your home country?
  • what are the benefits you're losing when moving overseas? (to avoid being so one-sided - sorry but the US/European infrastructure for scaling a business is MUCH better than in, say, Cambodia)
  • navigating family/relationships issues,
  • building a network in a new country (not just a lawyer but friends you can count on, etc.)
  • what type of a business to build overseas,
  • dealing with the challenges of building a business in a country where there's possibly a lot of corruption, no infrastructure, etc.
Damn, it could have been such an excellent book...
Send him an email, that does sound like a good book!
 
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Send him an email, that does sound like a good book!

I doubt it's his favorite medium. His YouTube videos is what he excels at. Makes no sense to invest in books.
 

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You're making fun of the book because you are already a nomad capitalist. Being here teaches lots of the same stuff. For the average person, this info is mindblowing. Even I read your summary with interest. Reinforcement is always helpful. A website is for going deeper. A book like this is to cover any holes in someone's basic education, and get them moving in the right direction.
 

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Thank you for such valuable information! I have two citizenship myself, so I find this kind of idea interesting.
Those who received second citizenship probably know how difficult and tedious it is. It is necessary to collect a large package of documents, monitor their submission, and properly issue them. And all this is in paper form! Just darkness.
When I got citizenship, I promised myself to keep everything in a digital version so as not to run around with these pieces of paper. I found a cool service — https://pdfliner.com/form_1099_misc, and I am pleased with it.
And what do you think? Isn't it sad that a person has to get second citizenship to expand his business? It seems that the state should create favorable conditions so that the citizen does not feel the need.
 
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He's got an e-book on Amazon, bought it yesterday, it looks like exciting stuff.

His book is a long form sales letter to get you to buy his overpriced services that he cannot effectively implement.

I have so many ridiculous stories about him, I could write a book on the topic.....clients who paid 20k+ and never got anything done, clients who setup completely illegal structures, employees who were never paid their salary, employees fired because they made too much money and then weren't paid....

Good luck with him....lol
 

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Geo-arbitrage is a viable option if you are location independent and adventurous.

For example, if you are American, you can easily be 100% legally tax free up to about 150k as long as you structure your business correctly and don't become a tax resident of a high tax country.

If you are American and earn more than 150k, there are other strategies that can be implemented (I'm not detailing them here for obvious reasons) where you can be legally tax free (or mostly so) on much higher incomes.

If you are not American, it is quite simple to be tax free as a location independent entrepreneur, although you must be cautious and plan the strategy out well.

For example, if you are Canadian with a ecommerce business you run virtually, you can easily obtain residency in a country like Paraguay, register your company in the US with an offshore holding company in Anguilla, never stay in one country long enough to become a default tax resident (it varies by country), and you are 100% tax free on unlimited income.
 

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His book is a long form sales letter to get you to buy his overpriced services that he cannot effectively implement.

I have so many ridiculous stories about him, I could write a book on the topic.....clients who paid 20k+ and never got anything done, clients who setup completely illegal structures, employees who were never paid their salary, employees fired because they made too much money and then weren't paid....

Good luck with him....lol

So you're saying he is a much better marketer than a business person?
 
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So you're saying he is a much better marketer than a business person?

100%. He is actually a really good marketer. To be honest, I'm quite jealous of his marketing prowess.

But I've had to fix so many of his issues he created for clients, I'm seriously considering a nomadcapitalist fee if the client comes to me after dealing with him.
 

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