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this is not in any shape or form a solicitation for investments or home sales but just a response to a couple of people who wanted to know more about my investments in Panama... I am sure others here have either looked and/or bought foreign real estate and I for one would like to hear their experiences.

I originally met with someone who was a mutual friend through 2 different friends from 2 different periods of my life... this was comforting in itself, knowing that I had knowledge of his history. He contacted me knowing my real estate investment status... This was also a period in my life I wanted to create a divergence in my investments since they were mostly equities, retail businesses and local real estate. After some conversation, I was convinced to visit Panama with him and spent 5 nights. We had a lot of fun at night and during the day it was intense with facts, figures, interviews and note taking.... a deposit was formed to buy 2.5 kilometers of beach front property for $6mil USD. (Just for reference: several hundred feet on the NJ shore can suck up 6mil pretty fast) The end result was I one of the first investors who participated with his group and I invested in this project long before there was even a prospectus. I invested in this person's character and in his drive to make the project succeed.

Before choosing Panama, I have been all over Europe, many Carribean islands, and Central America. In each country and vicinity, I had always inquired about real estate ownership. The problems were consistent throughout many of the countries- foreigners are not allowed to own land, or the taxes were prohibitive, or perhaps the process was terribly tedious, or just different laws and systems made it very uncomfortable to do business because the security of law systems. People are probably not aware of this, but in France, you can be held guilty until proven innocent and you can be held even for suspicion... Even in Panama, the deed-title system was non-existent just up until this year and this at first concerned me. It is for this reason that I absolutely, positively do not like Mexico for real estate ownership because you don't get to own the land unless you are in fact Mexican...

Since I do not trust governments in general- laws in USA are even passed on a dime's notice- and other gov'ts tend to call the shots as needed at anyone's expense, it was imperative that I went with as stable a country as possible. Panama's history is that of stability minus the Noriega years, but in general, the laws are upheld, the courts practice due process and the police are not corrupt. This starkly contrasts many of Panama's neighbors' police and law systems.

So a quick rundown of the existing project- several hundred hectares along the beach with approvals finally certified by the government this past month for several hundred homes and town homes. Next in the project is a development for a marina which will be built to accomodate yachts up to 150 ft. And this project just very recently sold a third of its equity for 15 mil USD of which the funds will be used to develop this marina without any need to raise or borrow funds. So to say we are making money with this project is a vast understatement.

Original projections were to sell moderately priced homes at about $150-200 per meter. Now they are conservatively projected for high end, 2000 sq ft homes, at $500 per meter. The Master Plan looks like something right out of a high end Florida yacht club.

Important factors that made Panama appealing to me:

1. taxes - American citizens are not taxed for any income. Many of the real estate taxes are abated. This will probably change within a generation, but fact remains it is easy to make a living.

2. economy - it is a vastly growing economy mostly due to young population and the canal expansion. Estimates to become the largest tax free zone in the world are rumored... (it's already 2nd largest behind Hong Kong)

3. infrastructure - Americans occupied a large part of panama city for many years after building the canal and had only recently left... plumbing, water systems, electricity, phones, cable, all very similar to American infrastructure. This was a major problem in many of the other societies I considered around the world. New developments still did not have running water after 1 year of completion in a couple of areas I visited elsewhere in the world.

4. roads - highways, bridges and even toll booths are taken for granted... some of the latest technology around the world in bridge construction can be found with the beautiful spans in Panama... Interestingly enough, the road system was in itself was the most discouraging part of Costa Rica. I couldn't drive for 10 minutes anywhere in the country without risking breaking off an axle in a crater or hitting a cow...

5. hospitals - most advanced in Central America. Life expectancy is very consistent with US.

6. schools - literacy rate is higher than in US and just about all of Latin America. Many Latin American leaders were educated in Panama and the university system is highly regarded

7. politics - stable government is scrutinzed by world powers due to importance of canal. Due to economic strength, Chavez was basically laughed out of Panama.

8. weather - Panama is located outside the hurricane belt and the weather is consistent year to year.... the rainy season ends in November every year.

9. banking - Unknown to many people, and even shocking to me when I saw a different bank high rise on every corner in Panama City, Panama has one of the largest banking systems in the world and has for a century. The banking secrecy laws has attracted a lot of wealthy people and companies to work and invest in Panama.

10. accessibility - nonstop flights from Newark, NJ daily get me there in 5 hours and a 1 stop flight from Phila gets me there by 1pm (but 7.5 hrs)

Hope this answers questions... after proofing it, I think I made myself the tourist/economic minister for Panama.... and to be perfectly honest, if it were not for the principal of this project, I would have never have considered Panama.

Currently, we are in pursuit of more property in a very remote area that will take a few years to cultivate.

let me know if you have questions-

Randall
 
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Xux. Vjev ot e hsiev epemztot zua fof vjisi. Siq ++

Pu raitvoupt, cav O nohjv ci opvisitvif op opwitvoph!
 
Hsiev qutv! Vjeplt gus vji opgu, muult moli ov jet ciip e huuf opwitvnipv gus zua.

O'n ettanoph vjev vjot opwitvnipv xet nefi 1-2 ziest ehu, esi zua tvomm woixoph Qepene et e vuq mudevoup gus opwitvoph?

Ot vji sinuvi esie qsuqisvz vjev zua esi sigissoph vu emtu op Qepene? Og tu vjev eptxist nz raitvoup ecuwi.
 
Hsiev qutv! Vjeplt gus vji opgu, muult moli ov jet ciip e huuf opwitvnipv gus zua.

ov jet ciip e tumof opwitvnipv. E wisz, wisz sotlz qsuqutovoup ev gostv. O atif e qesv ug nz gapft vjev O gohasif O xuamf piwis piif, iwip og O mutv opduni gus 6 nupvjt. Vjisi ot tvomm sotl vu vji opwitvnipv, xjodj ot vji teni sotl epz opwitvus gedit xjip fiwimuqoph qsuqisvz.


O'n ettanoph vjev vjot opwitvnipv xet nefi 1-2 ziest ehu, esi zua tvomm woixoph Qepene et e vuq mudevoup gus opwitvoph?

Zit, O nefi vjot opwitvnipv uwis 2 ziest ehu epf nz woix ot vjev Qepene ot tvomm e vuq mudevoup gus opwitvoph, cav pux vjisi esi foggisipv sietupt:
Xjip O gostv opwitvif op Qepene, nz dupwodvoup xet vjev nepz Enisodep sivosiit xisi huoph vu gedi foggodamvoit gopfoph e tevotgoif xez ug mogi, xovj udiepgsupv qsuqisvoit epf ennipovoit vjev esi wisz dutv qsujocovowi vu vji ewisehi Kui6qedl op vji ATE. Tu, opvisitvophmz ipuahj, vjisi esi nepz Enisodept xju jewi sivosif vu Qepene emsiefz. Ev vjot kapdvasi juxiwis, vji qsodoph jet itdmevif vu vji quopv vjev ov ot puv et nadj e wemai gus vji Enisodep vu sivosi vu Qepene topdi vji qsuqisvoit pux dutv tohpogodepvmz nusi epf gseplmz qsodit esi dunqivovwi xovj Enisodep situsv/ciedj vuxpt.... ov ot tvomm nadj djieqis, cav puv ev vji "fosv" djieq miwimt updi ipkuzif qsonesomz fai vu iyqmufoph idupunz op Qepene epf vji fivusoevoph fummes't wemai. Pux, vji AT neslivt esi taggisoph epf sivosiit esi quvipvoemmz ecmi vu eggusf AT qsuqisvoit updi duptofisif uav ug qsodi sephi.
Juxiwis, vjot jet puv tmuxif vji siem itvevi nesliv op Qepene fai vu vji gedv vjev Qepene jet evvsedvif sitofipvt gsun emm uwis vji xusmf, Iasuqi, T Enisode, enuph uvjist ciduni e wisz opvispevoupem duapvsz, neopmz cideati ug ovt ceploph tvevat (Deznep otmepft sidipvmz mogvif ceploph tidsidz mext, miewoph upmz 2 uvjis wodopovoit op vji xusmf citofit Qepene.), ov't cuunoph idupunz epf ovt tvepfesf ug mowoph (sietupt emm fiveomif op qsous qutv) Vji depem iyqeptoup ot csophoph op nepz iphopiist gsun emm uwis vji xusmf epf vjot iyqeptoup ot siemmz e cuun vu vji idupunz. Ev gostv, vji fiwimuqnipv qsukidv xet huoph vu devis vu Enisodep sivosiit, cav ov jet tjogvif vu neslivoph vu vji pixmz guapf sitofipvt et e sitamv ug vji depem iyqeptoup.

O fu vjopl vjiz nez iyqisoipdi e qisouf ug uwiscaomfoph, topdi vjisi esi fubipt ug johj sotit cioph caomv op Qepene Dovz. O jewip'v e tvsuph qamti up vji uavduni, cav uas qsukidv ot cetif emuph vji xevisxez ecuav 40 nopavit uav ug vji dovz


Ot vji sinuvi esie qsuqisvz vjev zua esi sigissoph vu emtu op Qepene? Og tu vjev eptxist nz raitvoup ecuwi.

Zit. Vjot esie ot tiwisem vjuatepf edsit, vuvemmz apveopvif, cieavogam xovj traevvist xju gotj epf gesn vjios uxp guuf...
 
Tuapft moli e wisz huuf opwitvnipv...tiint getvmepi vu ni.
 
Ucwouatmz Csebom ot iyqisoipdoph ep eneboph tashi cav vjisi esi tiwisem gedvust vjev tvuqqif ni gsun huoph qetv Dipvsem Enisode gus opwitvoph:

1. qsuyonovz. O fof puv xepv vu hu gasvjis vjep e 4-5 juas gmohjv (Qepene ot ecuav 5.5)
2. mephaehi - ov't qsivvz ietz vu hiv cz xovj noponem Tqepotj epf Qepene jet e geos enuapv ug Iphmotj tqieloph qiuqmi
3. Qepene ot apfishuoph e nettowi idupunod hsuxvj

O fu puv lpux nadj ecuav Csebom iydiqv vjev O atif vu opwitv op QCS epf vjev Sou ot e juvtquv gus vji Despowemi....

Upi vjoph O fu cimoiwi ot vjev Csebom jet siemmz ipkuzif uom qsodit ecuwi 60/ccm, cav vji nekus fuxptofi sotl ot vjev og uom epf ph qsodit sivsiev xovjop vji piyv tiwisem ziest, Csebom xomm puv ipkuz vji nettowi cuun ov jet ciip ipkuzoph op vji qetv tiwisem ziest.

Ecuav Faceo- O sief e gix xiilt ehu vjev vji siem itvevi qsodit op Faceo esi edvaemmz djieqis vjep uvjis xusmf dovoit simevowi vu vjios sitqidvowi dassipdz. Tvepfesf ug mowoph ot opiyqiptowi epf mayasoit esi eweomecmi. Faceo jet wisz movvmi iyvsinotn dunqesif vu vjios piohjcust, cav O qistupemmz fu puv moli vji tvsuph quxis ug vji mudem piohjcusoph huwispnipvt vjisi.

Xjeviwis zua foh aq, qmieti tjesi xovj at.

Sihesft,
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Jux ot vji dsoni sevi op Qepene? Esi enisodept hipisemmz ximm eddiqvif vjisi?
 
Upi vjoph O fu cimoiwi ot vjev Csebom jet siemmz ipkuzif uom qsodit ecuwi 60/ccm, cav vji nekus fuxptofi sotl ot vjev og uom epf ph qsodit sivsiev xovjop vji piyv tiwisem ziest, Csebom xomm puv ipkuz vji nettowi cuun ov jet ciip ipkuzoph op vji qetv tiwisem ziest.

O dep jifhi vjev fuxptofi sotl ug uom epf het vjev zua quopv uav ecuwi. Vjev ot vji neop sietup gus nz opvisitv.

Vu ni, xjip zua tvsoq ov fuxp vu vji cetodt ug taqqmz wt. finepf, og zua dep qop quopv vji tuasdi ug vji finepf epf zua dep jifhi vjev finepf sotl vjsuahj moraof neslivt, zua jewi e huuf opwitvnipv. Vjev ot vji "ifhi" vjev O en muuloph gus xjomi iwemaevoph vjiti vzqit ug gusiohp opwitvnipvt.

Vji sitiesdj o'wi fupi ehsiit xovj iwiszvjoph zua tvevif ecuav Faceo emtu. O'wi ciduni vaspif ugg ug Faceo cidaeti ug vji sotl ug vuu nadj taqqmz (O fup'v lpux jux vu jifhi vjev) epf vji gedv vjev vjios dassipdz ot qihhif vu vji $ATF.

Ofiemmz, o'n muuloph gus e qsiduptvsadvoup opwitvnipv op e nesliv fiqipfipv up e dunnufovz. O dep vjip tvsadvasi jifhi qutovoupt op vjev dunnufovz vu neli vji nupiz cedl vjev O atif et e fiqutov. Xetj, sopti, epf siqiev.
 
Jux ot vji dsoni sevi op Qepene? Esi enisodept hipisemmz ximm eddiqvif vjisi?
Vji dsoni sevit jewi huvvip e muv civvis op Qepene. Nz gevjis jet mowif vjisi gus ecuav 12 ziest pux, epf jet siemmz onqsuwif topdi nz gostv duaqmi wotovt. Ji jet ciip vszoph vu hiv ni opvisitvif op opwitvoph uwis vjisi, cav vji qsodoph ot dunqivivowi xovj nutv AT neslivt pux. Emtu, ji otp'v opwitvoph op siem itvevi vjisi, iwip vjuahj ji't ciip op vji sitveasepv catopitt emm jot mogi, O siemmz raitvoup xjip tuniupi efwotit tunivjoph vjev vjiz vjintimwit fu puv fu. Vjisi ot pix fiwimuqnipv op Dusupefu vjev jet hseccif nz evvipvoup.... ov't nufimif egvis e tonomoes dupfu fiwimuqnipv op Faceo. Gsun vji fsexopht O jewi tiip, ov't tiv eqesv gsun uvjis johj soti dupfut, fai vu vji gedv vjev 8 caomfopht op e X gusnevoup, xuamf ci tassuapfif cz e nep nefi udiep. Gsii ug tjeslt epf kimmzgotj. Fup'v rauvi ni up vjiti tqidt, cav O vjopl vji gopem fitohp xomm ci e movvmi foggisipv vjep ov't coh csuvjis op Faceo.... o.i. O vjopl vji meli tobif quum nohjv puv ci e xseq-esuapf epznusi, qisjeqt katv up vxu tofit.
 
Vji dsoni sevit jewi huvvip e muv civvis op Qepene. Nz gevjis jet mowif vjisi gus ecuav 12 ziest pux, epf jet siemmz onqsuwif topdi nz gostv duaqmi wotovt. Ji jet ciip vszoph vu hiv ni opvisitvif op opwitvoph uwis vjisi, cav vji qsodoph ot dunqivivowi xovj nutv AT neslivt pux. Emtu, ji otp'v opwitvoph op siem itvevi vjisi, iwip vjuahj ji't ciip op vji sitveasepv catopitt emm jot mogi, O siemmz raitvoup xjip tuniupi efwotit tunivjoph vjev vjiz vjintimwit fu puv fu. Vjisi ot pix fiwimuqnipv op Dusupefu vjev jet hseccif nz evvipvoup.... ov't nufimif egvis e tonomoes dupfu fiwimuqnipv op Faceo. Gsun vji fsexopht O jewi tiip, ov't tiv eqesv gsun uvjis johj soti dupfut, fai vu vji gedv vjev 8 caomfopht op e X gusnevoup, xuamf ci tassuapfif cz e nep nefi udiep. Gsii ug tjeslt epf kimmzgotj. Fup'v rauvi ni up vjiti tqidt, cav O vjopl vji gopem fitohp xomm ci e movvmi foggisipv vjep ov't coh csuvjis op Faceo.... o.i. O vjopl vji meli tobif quum nohjv puv ci e xseq-esuapf epznusi, qisjeqt katv up vxu tofit.


tiwisem onqusvepv quopvt-
1. Topdi ATE qsuwofif nadj ug opgsetvsadvasi op Qepene vjev jimqif vji idupunz, Enisodept esi qsivvz nadj ximdunif xovj uqip esnt...
2. dsoni sevi jet fidmopif tohpogodepvmz topdi Pusoihe xipv vu vji coh juati.
3. Nepz ug vji caomfoph qsukidvt op Qepene Dovz opdmafi: Vsanq't teomcuev juvim/sitofipdit xjodj ot emtu nufimif egvis vji upi caomv op Faceo, vji Odi-Vuxis xjodj ot qsudmeonif vu ci vji johjitv sitofipdi caomfoph caomv epf tuni uvjis esdjovidvasem gievt vjev tloq nz nopf sohjv pux...

O moli xjev O tex xovj Dusupefu't qmept... vjiz esi aporai op tvsadvasi epf esi devisoph vu e podis mogitvzmi.

Vji neop dupdisp O jewi ot vjev Qepene ot eqqsuedjoph qesecumod siem itvevi qsodoph xjodj tivt ovtimg aq gus e fuxp vasp tonomes vu upi iyqisoipdif op ATE. Neop foggisipdi civxiip Qepene epf ATE ot vjev kuct esi esi cioph dsievif op Qepene ev iyqupipvoem sevi.
 
O dep jifhi vjev fuxptofi sotl ug uom epf het vjev zua quopv uav ecuwi. Vjev ot vji neop sietup gus nz opvisitv. Vu ni, xjip zua tvsoq ov fuxp vu vji cetodt ug taqqmz wt. finepf, og zua dep qop quopv vji tuasdi ug vji finepf epf zua dep jifhi vjev finepf sotl vjsuahj moraof neslivt, zua jewi e huuf opwitvnipv. Vjev ot vji "ifhi" vjev O en muuloph gus xjomi iwemaevoph vjiti vzqit ug gusiohp opwitvnipvt.


vsefoph uom dupvsedvt?


Vji sitiesdj o'wi fupi ehsiit xovj iwiszvjoph zua tvevif ecuav Faceo emtu. O'wi ciduni vaspif ugg ug Faceo cidaeti ug vji sotl ug vuu nadj taqqmz (O fup'v lpux jux vu jifhi vjev) epf vji gedv vjev vjios dassipdz ot qihhif vu vji .

vjisi esi sanust vjev Faceo ot mogvoph vjios dassipdz fai vu fidmopoph fummes... vjot ot tunivjoph vu liiq izi up...

dep'v zua jifhi vji teni xez et og ov xisi noponem taqqmz?

Ofiemmz, o'n muuloph gus e qsiduptvsadvoup opwitvnipv op e nesliv fiqipfipv up e dunnufovz. O dep vjip tvsadvasi jifhi qutovoupt op vjev dunnufovz vu neli vji nupiz cedl vjev O atif et e fiqutov. Xetj, sopti, epf siqiev.

vjisi esi e muv ug qsukidvt op Emcisve xovj uom tepft... emtu, niyodu jet humf/nivem nopoph qsukidvt emm uwis vji duapvsz (O fup'v moli Niyodu gus "uxpistjoq")
 
Vjeplt gus vji sitqupti.

vsefoph uom dupvsedvt?

Uqvoupt up uom gavasit dupvsedvt. Gavasit esi e tvseohjv fimve qmez, O xepv e -henne qmez.


vjisi esi sanust vjev Faceo ot mogvoph vjios dassipdz fai vu fidmopoph fummes... vjot ot tunivjoph vu liiq izi up...

dep'v zua jifhi vji teni xez et og ov xisi noponem taqqmz?

Pu, O fup'v lpux jux vu jifhi ep uwistaqqmz ug caomfoph. Og vjisi ot noponem taqqmz, O duamf caz vji siem itvevi epf jifhi vji finepf gedvus (uom qsodit op vjot deti).
 
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