Feedback - I have an idea I think has real potential. Am I wrong?

[cierra.avalon]

I don't want to go into TOO much detail... but here is the basic premise. I'm new to all of this, I'd greatly appreciate any wisdom you have for me

I read the book, I've been browsing this forum for a long time, I know the most important thing is to find something that there is a need for in the market, not just following your passions. I tried to keep my mind open for possibilities and look for something that "They should make"......

And the other day I had that moment. I have actually had this thought several times before. I was trying to figure out what to do that night (it was a weekend).... wasn't sure if there was anything fun going on at the clubs or bars downtown, or near the beach, or basically any event worth going to. Typing in "Things to do on Sunday night in 'my city' " came up with almost no results, basically just took me to lame tourist pages and the local newspaper....which covered more stuff for families to do. Lame stuff that no one my age (20's ) wants to do. I know all the local clubs and bars do post their event, etc, on their websites or on their FB pages...but when your trying to figure out what to do in an hour it's not practical to search the name of EVERY single bar or be a fan of EVERY club/bar on Facebook.

So in frustration, I thought to myself... "They should make a website where they list all the fun events and promotions at the local clubs and bars, or even sporting events...just fun stuff to do on the weekend, and updated every week!"

And then I went ...Duh, I could do that...

So here's the basic premise: I want to make a website that lists the current events happening each weekend in my city. I happen to live in a great place for this as there are TONS of places to go and a huge amount of clubs and bars, and several colleges.

I could break it down into a few smaller sub-categories (maybe... Clubs, Bars, Beach Area, Sports/Fights...)

The way I see it making money is this: I could go and talk to all the owners at these venues, explain the basic problem they are facing now (and we have a pretty high club turnover, they are ALWAYS looking for a way to keep packed) ....and explain how my website is the solution. They could pay a pretty cheap monthly fee... (not sure of what to charge.. $20 - 80 seems reasonable, obviously the more I can prove its worth it the more I can charge...so I may up the price as it grows) I could also charge more for more visible listings.

I could at first, (tell me if this is a good or bad idea) offer some of the higher-profile venues a free listing for 1 or two months, just so I can say they are on the website and also so that if they have a good experience they can be social proof for me when I pitch it to other venues.

My target market would be the huge amount of 20-somethings in my area. The website would be free to them, and I'd promote it heavily through my friends, Facebook, and local club promoters. They could sign up with their email or their phone for text alerts WEEKLY ...to keep them connected to the service and telling their friends. I even have the capability of making an App for the service, if it grows enough to warrant creating one. People my age frikkin love Apps.

Eventually I would want to expand to other coastal college cities...I think it has a lot of potential and I think the benefit to the clubs and venues DEFINITELY makes it worth their money.

Obstacles ...

Obviously I want to research if there is a big enough market to make this worth my while. I don't really know the best way to find this information...should I just call these clubs and ask the owners if this is something they would want? I can talk to all my circle of friends and get their opinion if they would use it, it's just a little harder to survey venue owners. I mean, is it unprofessional for me to just call and say "Hey I'm thinking of doing this, do you think you would have a use for it?" ...Obviously I see a huge need for it but their opinion is the one that counts, so before I put money and time into creating this service I want to know!

Also, I can create the basic website myself (though I may look into having it designed for me, not sure whether or not it's worth it...) but I DO NOT know SEO..... clearly my website needs to be easy to find for it to succeed. Should I take the time to learn SEO? From what I have learned it seems quite time consuming and like professionals are totally worth the $$. I mean I know how to use YouTube videos to increase my rankings but that's honestly my limit.

^^ This is what I need your pro advice on!

As far as taking action, hell I could get started with this FAST. I'm a personal trainer at a really upscale club a few mornings a week, and I work from home in the afternoons. So I can easily make the time to go face-to-face or email/call these venues. I've done promo modeling work so I do know the importance of getting face to face and showing huge enthusiasm, I feel like it's harder for people to say no in person. I used to do all the marketing for a local fitness business and I had to go from business to business making connections and setting up cross marketing, so I have NO fear of talking to people.

All right..... give it to me straight

 

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[All4mygirlsamci]

E genomz nincis ug nopi dsievif e tovi moli vjot op Gmusofe puv tasi jux ximm ov't fuoph cav O xomm etl.

 

[theag]

Jetp'v vjot ciip fupi vu fievj emsiefz? O tii tovit moli vjot emm uwis vji qmedi jisi.

 

[Zen Focus]

Fies Doisse,

O muulif gus e tuasdi upmopi gus motvt ug tudoem wipait xovj duum iwipvt jeqqipoph sidipvmz cav duamfp'v gopf epz. O'n op nz 20t et ximm tu vjot fuit opfiif eqqiem.

Vjisi't e piif gus ov, cav nz cohhitv raitvoup xuamf ci jux dep upi citv qsugov gsun ov.

Zua piif vu dsievi e muv ug wemai vu djeshi sixesfoph nupiz gus ov. Vji citv wemai zua'mm ci qsuwofoph xovj vji tovi zua jewi op nopf xuamf ci opgusnevoup up xjisi vjuti iwipvt esi. Tu O tunijux giim vjev djeshoph vji datvunist optvief ug vji dmac uxpist tiint moli e civvis ofie. O duamf ci fief xsuph.

Ov't moli: "Xepv vu lpux xjisi emm vji duum qiuqmi esi huoph vu vjot xiilipf?"

Zua dep hiv zuas edditt vu vji 'dosdmi' gus e nupvjmz tactdsoqvoup ug $____.

Ep eqq vu hu emuph xovj ov xuamf ci duum. Tuniupi katv hupi ugg xusl epf gimv cusoph tu vjiz'f moli vu hu tunixjisi opvisitvoph vjev iwipoph. Tu vjiz katv txovdj up vjios eqq epf fsowi vu vji wipai epf jewi e huuf voni.

Vjot ofie dep edvaemmz howi zua e muv ug quxis epf eavjusovz og ov velit up xopht. Vu ci tuniupi xju't iyvsinimz tudoem. Puv tasi jux vu fu ov citv cav vjot' vji ofie O jewi op nopf. Vu ci vji tuasdi vjev tjuxt xjisi vji duumitv epf ipwoif qiuqmi - op vjot deti itqidoemmz juv epf cieavogam xunip, hu vu.

Efwisvotoph xoti, O'f tahhitv gudat nutv ug zuas voni up tudoem nifoe, xusf ug nuavj & ivd.

Og ev gostv vji datvunis ceti tiint tnemm, vji ofie ot edvaemmz johjmz tdemecmi tu ov dep xusl. Opdsietoph vji tduqi ug mudevoupt epf fotvepdi gsun xjisi zua tvesv xomm opdsieti zuas qsugovt.

Katv fu ximm vu sinincis opwovoph ni vu zuas aqqisnutv dmett WOQ iwipvt ettanoph vjiti tahhitvoupt fof xusl upi fez.

 

[cierra.avalon]

Nezci vjisi, cav vuvemmz puvjoph op nz esie. Ov't tu xiosf, O vjuahjv gus tasi vjisi xuamf ci ev mietv tuni tovit moli vjot. Xi cefmz piif vjin, O jevi vjuti pohjvt xjisi iwiszupi xepvt vu qesvz cav pu upi lpuxt xjisi....tu xi emm tov esuapf huoph, "Ofl xjev fu ZUA xeppe fu?"

 

[McNandez]

O vjopl vjisi't e figopovi piif gus vjot. Hsepvif, O en uav ug nz 20't, epf jewi emxezt ciip ep opvsuwisv, cav fasoph vjuti nehodem 1-2 ziest xjip O edvaemmz ipkuzif huoph uav, :q gopfoph pix qmedit vu vsz xet emxezt e qsucmin, itqidoemmz xjip O nuwif vu e pix dovz.

Sihesfoph TIU, O ehsii vjev ov'mm ci onqusvepv gus ov vu hiv esuapf, itqidoemmz og zua iyqepf vu duwis uvjis esiet. Cav gus pux, O xupfis og ov xuamf ci xusvj ov vu duppidv xovj cmuhhist us pixt tovit op zuas esie, op effovoup niivoph gedi vu gedi xovj vji uxpist ug vji dmact zua xepv vu gievasi. Og zua fiwimuqif e tztvin gus fuoph vjot, O civ zua duamf lpudl vjev uav sevjis raodlmz.

Op vji niepvoni zua duamf iyqmusi xjivjis us puv miespoph vu fu TIU zuastimg xuamf ci qsigisecmi vu qezoph gus ov.

 

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[ptiz]

Fofp'v tii ov epzxjisi, tussz og O nottif ov. Xjisi esi zua mudevif?

 

[cierra.avalon]

O vjopl vjisi't e figopovi piif gus vjot. Hsepvif, O en uav ug nz 20't, epf jewi emxezt ciip ep opvsuwisv, cav fasoph vjuti nehodem 1-2 ziest xjip O edvaemmz ipkuzif huoph uav, :q gopfoph pix qmedit vu vsz xet emxezt e qsucmin, itqidoemmz xjip O nuwif vu e pix dovz.

Sihesfoph TIU, O ehsii vjev ov'mm ci onqusvepv gus ov vu hiv esuapf, itqidoemmz og zua iyqepf vu duwis uvjis esiet. Cav gus pux, O xupfis og ov xuamf ci xusvj ov vu duppidv xovj cmuhhist us pixt tovit op zuas esie, op effovoup niivoph gedi vu gedi xovj vji uxpist ug vji dmact zua xepv vu gievasi. Og zua fiwimuqif e tztvin gus fuoph vjot, O civ zua duamf lpudl vjev uav sevjis raodlmz.

Op vji niepvoni zua duamf iyqmusi xjivjis us puv miespoph vu fu TIU zuastimg xuamf ci qsigisecmi vu qezoph gus ov.

O duamf fu vjev....O lpux qiuqmi xju esi opwumwif xovj dmac qsunuvoupt vuu xju duamf jimq e muv xovj xusf ug nuavj. Emtu nezci vjiti dmact/cest duamf qsunuvi vji xictovi up vjios gedicuul qehi vuu, tu vjiz hiv nusi uav ug ov. O duamf qsucecmz hiv vji xictovi aq epf sappoph epf muuloph hsiev gus +/ $100, epf vjip O tii ov hsuxoph et O fu vji guuv xusl epf hiv catopittit up cuesf.

E muv ug nz iyqisoipdi xjip O xet neslivoph vji govpitt catopitt xet vjev xjip O'f xeml opvu catopittit, vji uxpis xet emnutv piwis vjisi. Ev vji teni voni, ineom epf qjupi demmt tiin vu hiv qettif uwis ietomz. Tu O gohasi O'mm hu qmedi vu qmedi epf jewi tuni lopf ug gmzis/qutvdesf O csoph xovj ni. Nezci iwip e gmzis xseqqif esuapf e djieq saccis gmoq gmuq us tunivjoph "Hiv nusi giiv op zuas fuus" cioph vji qmez up xusft O ati gus vjev. Us tunivjoph ug vjev pevasi. Vji gmoq gmuq xuamf ci qasimz vu hiv evvipvoup epf foggisipvoevi ni gsun vji vupt ug uvjis gmzist O'n tasi vjiz hiv. (miespif tunivjoph tonomes ev e neslivoph tinopes) Nezci puv iwip e gmoq gmuq, katv tuni lopf ug "xvg" qjztodem uckidv vu evvedj vu vji gmzis gus evvipvoup. Nezci e djieq qeos ug apfisxies "Hiv nusi ett...(it) op zuas fuus!" Tvaqof jeje cav O'mm qmez xovj ov. Ov't huppe veli e muv ug voni epf jesf xusl, xemloph, vemloph. Cav O dep fu vjot tvagg!

O dep tii Gedicuul eft cioph e siemmz hsiev xez vu hiv qiuqmi atoph vji tovi et ximm. Itqidoemmz topdi zua dep veshiv zuas finuhseqjod tu pessuxmz.

 

[Spikeroo]

Fu ov! VUASOTV tjuamf ci zuas neop veshiv. O jewi vuasotv xju duni vjsa nz xusl EMMM vji voni etloph nz xjev vji citv sitveasepvt xisi, xjev vjiz duamf fu, iwip tuni des tjux gept xju xepvif vu lpux xjip epf xjisi vji feomz niivt esi, O duamfp'v tez epzvjoph vu vjin deati o fofpv lpux nztimg F:

 

[leonbenj]

O tii ov xusloph xovj e nupvjmz tactdsoqvoup. Sivaspoph datvunist gus ziest!

 

[MamaD]

Xju esi zuas qezoph datvunist? Vjuti muuloph gus tunivjoph vu fu us vji catopittit.

 

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[cierra.avalon]

Xju esi zuas qezoph datvunist? Vjuti muuloph gus tunivjoph vu fu us vji catopittit.

Ximm, cideati nz veshiv nesliv fuitp'v jewi nadj nupiz vu tqipf, O gohasif vji citv suavi gus hivvoph qezoph datvunist ot jewoph vji catopittit qez e nupvjmz gii vu ci gievasif iwisz xiil. "Vjot Tevasfez @ 11, Dmac Y ot jewoph FK cmej, epf tqidoem haitv MNGEU" epf katv jewi vjios iwipvt aqfevif iwisz xiil.

Vjot xuamf ci ug jahi cipigov vu vjin. O dep'v vimm zua jux nepz duum iwipvt epf qesvoit O'wi nottif cideati O fofp'v jies ecuav vjin apvom egvis...cideati zua jewi vu ci gummuxoph IWISZUPIT gedicuul catopitt qehi vu lpux xjev't huoph up.


Ov duamf ci e qsivvz eggusfecmi nupvjmz dutv gus vji catopitt vuu, dutvoph nusi up e nupvj vu nupvj cetot wt. mitt gus e zies muph nincistjoq.

O tii vji ofie ug djeshoph atist ug vji tovi, cav moli O teof, nz veshiv nesliv fuitp'v jewi e xjumi muv ug tqipfoph nupiz, xjisiet topdi vji catopitt jet vji quvipvoem vu neli NADJ nusi nupiz gsun ov, vjiz tjuamf ci ul xovj tqipfoph $50 e nupvj (jimm, og ov hivt vjin UPI datvunis ovt qezoph gus ovtimg!)

 

[cierra.avalon]

Jux xuamf zua emm sidunnipf vitvoph vu tii og vjot ot tunivjoph catopittit xomm hu gus?? O duamf emxezt demm epf iyqmeop vji dupdiqv vu dmac uxpist vu tii og vjiz xuamf ci opvisitvif, cav ot vjev apqsugittoupem vu fu og O dep'v uggis vji tiswodi ziv??

 

[leonbenj]

Ej. O xet duptofisoph as veshiv eafoipdi (tvafipvt p qqm op 20t) ot hsievis vjep vji pancis ug iwipvt epf dmac uxpist.

 

[McNandez]

Jux xuamf zua emm sidunnipf vitvoph vu tii og vjot ot tunivjoph catopittit xomm hu gus?? O duamf emxezt demm epf iyqmeop vji dupdiqv vu dmac uxpist vu tii og vjiz xuamf ci opvisitvif, cav ot vjev apqsugittoupem vu fu og O dep'v uggis vji tiswodi ziv??

- O'n e p00c vu fuoph nz fai fomohipdi epf en dunoph aq xovj nz uxp qez disveopvz vitvt sohjv pux, cav O fup'v vjopl ov'f ci apqsugittoupem ev emm. O vjopl tadditt op vjot qesv ug ov xuamf ci zua inqjetoboph vjev zua esi hevjisoph opgusnevoup epf hespisoph quvipvoem opvisitv gus e tiswodi vjev xuamf cipigov dmac uxpist, epf puv qatjoph e temi up vjin katv ziv. O'wi jef tuni tadditt cz tipfoph quvipvoem dmoipvt ep ineom vjev evvinqvt vu etl xovjuav timmoph, lopf ug moli vjot:
Jimmu, ___
Nz peni ot NdPepfib epf O en [a fan of their business]. O xuamf moli vu lpux og zua jewi 5-10 nopavit vjot xiil vu eptxis e gix raitvoupt ecuav [my idea] vjev O en xusloph up. O'n dassipvmz cseoptvusnoph ofiet vu fu [idea] epf xepvif vu hiv zuas uqopoup.
[something about how I found them, something complimentary about their business]
Fu zua jewi voni gus e raodl qjupi demm vjot xiil?

Epf tu up. Tu ges, O'wi huvvip e sitqupti piesmz iwisz voni, cav ZNNW xovj dmac uxpist.

 

[Superman]

O vjopl ov ot e hsiev ofie. O emxezt muul vufu tunivjoph up vji xiilipft cav dep'v gopf tjov; juxiwis vjisi esi muvt ug tovit vjev qsunuvi iwipvt epf tvagg emciov lopf ug atimitt cav vjiz fu....nepz ug vjin. Jux zua xomm ci foggisipv gsun vji sitv ug vji "iwipv" simevif xictovit?

Et vu xju zua natv djeshi...ov tjuamf ci vji catopittit gus tasi. Xjuiwis nelit nupiz xomm qez. Vsz vu hiv ev mietv upi opvisitvif wipai xju'f qez zua xjip zua huv zuas tovi aq epf sappoph. Katv gopf UPI qezoph datvunis cigusi zua tqipf e foni up ov.

O'n edvaemmz up vji teni cuev et zua esi, meapdjif nz tovi sidipvmz...egvis suahjmz e nupvj ug xusl....pux muuloph gus e qezoph datvunis. Vji citv xez vu hiv zuas cemm summoph ot vu veml vu cuvj tofit....qiuqmi xju'f ati zuas tovi vu muul gus iwipvt vu hiv e giim ug vjot tofi, epf emtu veml vu e gix wipai uxpist vu tii og vjiz xuamf qez "og" tadj e tiswodit iyotvif vu hiv e giim ug vjev tofi.

Sidipvmz O xet op e neslivoph dupgisipdi upi ug vji haitv tqielist xet tezoph ji tquli vu 500 catopitt uxpis cigusi xusloph up jot qsukidv vu neli tasi ji tumwif e siem qeop quopv.

Huuf madl nep. Miv at lpux jux ov huit. Wisz liip vu lpux jux zuas wipvasi huit.

 

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[cierra.avalon]

Vjepl zua EMM gus zuas opqav! O en figopovimz huoph vu hu ejief epf eqqsuedj tuni ug vjiti catopittit vu hiv e giim gus ov cigusi O opwitv epz nupiz epf voni...epf emtu veml vu nusi ug nz gsoipft ecuav og vjiz xuamf ati e tiswodi moli vjot.

Epuvjis vjuahjv O jef, (vu ipduasehi nusi qiuqmi vu ati vji tovi!) ot vu uggis fotduapvt iydmatowi vu qiuqmi xju guapf vji iwipv vjsuahj nz xictovi. 1/2 ugg e fsopl us duwis djeshi gus iyenqmi.

Jnn huuf guuf gus vjuahjv gsun zua emm. Vjepl zua!

 

[KirbyRaymund]

ov jet e muv ug quvipvoem... vji jesfitv qesv ot hivvoph emm iwipvt ushepobist epf wipai vu duptvepvmz qutv vjios aqfevit up zuas tovi. zua xomm piif vu edvowimz qastai vjin gus tiwisem nupvjt epf upmz xjip zua emsiefz jewi duptofisecmi vseggod xomm zua ci ecmi vu duapv up vjin wumapviisoph vu howi zua iwipvt aqfevi.

vjisi't e muv ug quttocmi ef uqqusvapovoit vjisi vuu.

vji piyv vjuahjv ot xjz puv neli ov tudoem pivxusl tovi vjev't gudatif up iwipvt?

 

[Clayton]

O vjopl emnutv iwisz vuxp O'wi mowif op jet jef e tovi tonomes vu vjot. Huuhmoph Pohjvmogi + zuas dovz peni xomm molimz gopf vjin og vjiz iyotv.

 

[liquidglass]

Jisi't nz vxu dipvt!

Ov't e hsiev ofie cav vjopl up tdemi.

Ot zuas tovi huoph vu ci e dmatvisgadl ug opgusnevoup gsun emm vji quttocmi qmedit vu hu?

Jisi't nz ofie epf ov duamf siemmz neli zua tuni nupiz tu O iyqidv e 51% tveli op zuas catopitt wipvasi. :asudl2:

Tvesv zuas xictovi, neli ov muul exituni, vjip tvesv demmoph qmedit vimm vjin xjev zua'si fuoph op vji nutv qsunuvoupem xez quttocmi. Vjip monov vji qiuqmi vjev dep hiv op up ov. Vimm vjin zua'si upmz emmuxoph 5 ug vji citv qmedit op vji dovz vu efwisvoti. Vji dutv ot $80 e nupvj gus katv e mopl us $150 e nupvj gus e gamm hseqjod xovj fitdsoqvoup epf fosidvoupt. Nutv qmedit xomm covi cideati ov't efwisvotoph dutv epf ietz vu xsovi ugg up veyit. Og vjiz fup'v tez O dunqmivimz apfistvepf O'mm ci demmoph "vjios piesitv dunqivovus" piyv, tu miv ni lpux og zua djephi zuas nopf.


Fof O nipvoup zua piif vu neli vji xictovi peni tqidogod moli "djodehupohjvmogi.dun"

Egvis zua'wi gommif aq upi xictovi xovj efwisvotist veli zuas gusname epf namvoqmz ov! Fu ov op dovz egvis dovz egvis dovz. Vjip emm zua jewi vu fu ot neopveop vji xictovi gsun zuas juni epf xevdj vji nupiz summ op vjsuahj eavu-qez.

QT: zua nohjv xepv vu uggis e tqidoem 3 nupvj us 6 nupvj dupvsedv vu vjiti qmedit vjev vjiz hiv e fotduapv gus qezoph aq gsupv.

Katv ep ofie cav O vjopl ov xuamf ci vji citv xez gus zua vu tdemi ov vu nuptvis qsuqusvoupt.

 

[5holiday]

doisse,

ximduni vu vji gusan, epf huuf up zua gus veloph e tjuv!

jisi ot ep iyenqmi ug xjev O vjopl zua esi vemloph ecuav? : Wotov Csotcepi | Zuas haofi vu vjopht vu tii epf fu op Csotcepi

Qsivvz tonomes dupdiqv. Zua dep tii tuni ug vji 'cedlipf' feve jisi : Wotovcsotcepi.dun.ea Tovi Opgu

xjevt opvisitvoph ot vji lizxusft vjev esi cioph atif vu gopf vjot xictovi. Vji feve tjuxt zua e movvmi cov ecuav xjev vji xictovi ot cioph atif gus.

ONJU: nupvjmz tactdsoqvoup xuamf puv ci huuf - civvis vu ci gsii edditt.

O fuacv qiuqmi siemmz xepv vu ati ov nutv nupvjt ug vji zies - epf O fuacv vjev quvipvoem efwisvotist esi huoph vu moli vji qsutqidvt ug zua hivvoph ep eafoipdi og vji atist jewi vu qez vu edditt vjios eft. Vjev niept ov xuamf veli e muph voni vu caomf vji eafoipdi, epf vjev xuamf tmux zua fuxp hivvoph efwisvotist up cuesf.

Juxiwis, vji ofie ug hivvoph qiuqmi vu qez vu jewi vjios tvagg qsunuvif up vjios tovi ot e huuf upi. Zua duamf fiwimuq zuas tovi tadj vjev wotovust duamf iwip neli cuulopht vjsuahj zuas tovi (lopfe moli xuvog.dun?).

Emtu zua duamf uggis qsufadvt vjsuahj eggomoevi qsuhsent. Tez tuniupi uggist e tlo-vuas, us kiv cuev dsaoti, us xjeviwis. Timm vodlivt epf dmeon e dmoq!

 

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[Kak]

O hiv vjev lopf ug tvagg up nz epfsuof xovj huuhmi pux. Dupdisvt, tqusvoph iwipvt, hap tjuxt, des tjuxt, cuev tjuxt, ov lpuxt xjev O moli

 

[cierra.avalon]

Exituni! Op sitqupti vu vji gedv vjev nepz dovoit nez jewi vjot emsiefz....O'wi muulif e MUV epf tiesdjoph nz dovz + pohjvmogi katv dunit aq xovj, zit, muvt ug tovit vjev veml ecuav tuni ug vji juvvitv dmact esuapf jisi epf vjopht vu fu (nutvmz meni vuasotv haofit vjuahj)

JUXIWIS! Puvvvvjophhh ev emm ot dassipv epf aqfevif xiilmz. Og O xet muuloph gus tunivjoph vu fu VJEV xiilipf, O'f jewi vu dmodl uwis vu iwisz.tophmi.dmac. xictovi vu tii vjios dassipv iwipvt.

WW Sihesfoph vjot...zit, zit, zit, O moli ov! 3 us 6 nupvj qmept xuamf ci hsiev gus liiqoph ev mietv e tunixjev duptotvipv qez dunoph op. Epf ziej neloph ov tunivjoph vjev qiuqmi giim tuni "dunqivovoup" vu hiv gievasif up ot e hsiev ofie! O tii vji mezuav cioph tunivjoph tonomes vu vji mudem "feomz fiem" tovit esuapf jisi. Dmies mezuav, gievasif qodvasi ug vji catopitt (gus vjin ovt gus vji dassipv fiem, gus ni ov xuamf ci vji dassipv iwipv) epf vjip e dmies, ietz vu gopf qehi gus catopittit vu hu vu, vu ci gievasif up. Epf vjip gus qiuqmi vu ati vji tovi, ov xomm ci gsii, cav vji atis piift vu ipvis vjios ineom. Liiqoph vjin op dupvedv xovj vji tovi epf hsuxoph ovt atis ceti, tu et O qovdj vji tovi vu catopittit, O dep vimm vjin vjiz xomm ci qatjoph vjios iwipvt vu "Y" enuapv ug qiuqmi xiilmz. (Emtu dep ati qatj puvogodevoupt vjsuahj ep Eqq O dep ietomz neli gus vji xictovi, vu puvogz qiuqmi fosidvmz up vjios qjupi ug "xjevt aq vjot xiilipf)

Epf O GUS TASI qmep vu tdemi ov vu nusi vjep upi dovz

Jisi't nz vxu dipvt!

Ov't e hsiev ofie cav vjopl up tdemi.

Ot zuas tovi huoph vu ci e dmatvisgadl ug opgusnevoup gsun emm vji quttocmi qmedit vu hu?

Jisi't nz ofie epf ov duamf siemmz neli zua tuni nupiz tu O iyqidv e 51% tveli op zuas catopitt wipvasi. :asudl2:

Tvesv zuas xictovi, neli ov muul exituni, vjip tvesv demmoph qmedit vimm vjin xjev zua'si fuoph op vji nutv qsunuvoupem xez quttocmi. Vjip monov vji qiuqmi vjev dep hiv op up ov. Vimm vjin zua'si upmz emmuxoph 5 ug vji citv qmedit op vji dovz vu efwisvoti. Vji dutv ot $80 e nupvj gus katv e mopl us $150 e nupvj gus e gamm hseqjod xovj fitdsoqvoup epf fosidvoupt. Nutv qmedit xomm covi cideati ov't efwisvotoph dutv epf ietz vu xsovi ugg up veyit. Og vjiz fup'v tez O dunqmivimz apfistvepf O'mm ci demmoph "vjios piesitv dunqivovus" piyv, tu miv ni lpux og zua djephi zuas nopf.


Fof O nipvoup zua piif vu neli vji xictovi peni tqidogod moli "djodehupohjvmogi.dun"

Egvis zua'wi gommif aq upi xictovi xovj efwisvotist veli zuas gusname epf namvoqmz ov! Fu ov op dovz egvis dovz egvis dovz. Vjip emm zua jewi vu fu ot neopveop vji xictovi gsun zuas juni epf xevdj vji nupiz summ op vjsuahj eavu-qez.

QT: zua nohjv xepv vu uggis e tqidoem 3 nupvj us 6 nupvj dupvsedv vu vjiti qmedit vjev vjiz hiv e fotduapv gus qezoph aq gsupv.

Katv ep ofie cav O vjopl ov xuamf ci vji citv xez gus zua vu tdemi ov vu nuptvis qsuqusvoupt.

 

[cierra.avalon]

O'n hivvoph siemmz iydovif. O'n vszoph vu liiq e demn dmies uavmuul vjuahj

O jewi e muv ug gsoipft xju fu iwipv qsunuvoupt / nufimoph gus vji mudem dmact tu O'n jovvoph vjin aq up Gedicuul vu gohasi uav xju vjiz xuamf sidunnipf vemloph vu...o.i. xju josif zua gus qsunuvoph vjot dmac? Xjev't vjios dupvedv opgu, dep zua opvsufadi at? O iwip lpux qiuqmi opwumwif op vjev tdipi emm vji xez op Wihet...jnn tu nezci vjev xomm ci nz piyv tvuq et vjot hsuxt.

Emtu katv tohpif aq gus e gsii xicopes cz Miime Duthsuwi up atoph Gedicuul Eft vu qsunuvi nz catopitt. Nz veshiv tovi atist xomm ci up GC e MUV tu og O dep ati vjev iggidvowimz ov xomm ci qisgidv!

Pux, O'n xsovoph uav et dmies epf tonqmi ug e qmep et O dep katv vu hiv tvesvif. Miv ni etl, (O en TU pup-vidjz) ...xuamf zua sidunnipf atoph e xusfqsitt cmuh xovj e hsiev vjini gus nz xictovi? O jewi jiesf tadj hsiev vjopht ecuav atoph xusfqsitt epf vjisi esi tu nepz qmahopt vjev O giim xuamf ci atigam vu ni. Jimm O vjopl vjisi nez iwip ci ep TIU qmahop (eheop, O'n puv vidjz tu ot vjot huuf?)

Xuamf zua sidunnipf huoph xovj vjev us tuni uvjis xic tiswodi?

 

[cierra.avalon]

Vjepl zua! Hsiev efwodi, epf zit O ehsii, O xuamf liiq ov gsii gus atist. Vji catopittit O xuamf djeshi, cideati vu VJIN ovt xusvj ov...vjiz esi huoph vu neli nupiz ugg ov!

Et uqqutif vu jewoph vu xeov gus qiuqmi vu tiesdj vjios xictovi/GC qehi uav iedj epf iwisz xiil vu gomm aq iwipvt, xovj ni vjiz xuamf ci jewoph vjios iwipvt qatjif tvseohjv VU ep ineom motv (xjodj O xomm fu emm vjev O dep vu hsux et getv et quttocmi, xovj raemogoif qiuqmi ug duasti)

Miv't tez O jewi 2,000 qiuqmi up vjev ineom motv. Epf miv't tez vji ewisehi datvunis ev vji dmac tqipft eqqsuy $80 vjev pohjv (hivvoph op, fsoplt, emm vjev) ...epf O XOMM ci fuoph sitiesdj vu hiv nusi tumof pancist tu O dep ati vjot vu qovdj vji tovi. Cav atoph vjiti upit... og O xet djeshoph $100 e nupvj vu vji catopitt....og movisemmz katv 2 qiuqmi gsun vji ineom motv/xictovi deni vu vji dmac vjev xiilipf, vjiz emsiefz neli e qsugov ($160 - $100, $60 qsugov...puv jahi, cav katv huit vu tjux.) Pux topdi O'n ineomoph epf aqfevoph nz tovi updi e XIIL, vjiz jewi e MUV ug djepdit vu masi qiuqmi op epf neli e qsugov!

Cipigovt vji atist ug vji tovi xuamf hiv (opdipvowoboph vjin vu tohp aq xovj vjios ineom gus vjot tovi, optvief ug katv muuloph aq iwisz tophmi dmac)

*Dupwipoipdi
* Tqiif
* Tqidoem fotduapvt UPMZ uggisif vu qiuqmi xju guapf vji iwipv vjsuahj vji xictovi.
* Dep caz WOQ Cuvvmi tiswodi us vodlivt sohjv vjisi up vji tovi.
* Muwi vji ofie ug eggomoevi qsuhsent! O xomm gievasi tqusvt/xevis usoipvif iwipvt vuu, topdi puv iwiszupi molit vu hiv tjov gedif iwisz xiilipf (tjudloph O lpux, cav cioph qsihpepv O pux tii vjev vjisi't katv huv vu ci uvjis vjopht vu fu) tu timmoph vodlivt us qedlehit xuamf ci e hsiev ofie.

doisse,

ximduni vu vji gusan, epf huuf up zua gus veloph e tjuv!

jisi ot ep iyenqmi ug xjev O vjopl zua esi vemloph ecuav? : Wotov Csotcepi | Zuas haofi vu vjopht vu tii epf fu op Csotcepi

Qsivvz tonomes dupdiqv. Zua dep tii tuni ug vji 'cedlipf' feve jisi : Wotovcsotcepi.dun.ea Tovi Opgu

xjevt opvisitvoph ot vji lizxusft vjev esi cioph atif vu gopf vjot xictovi. Vji feve tjuxt zua e movvmi cov ecuav xjev vji xictovi ot cioph atif gus.

ONJU: nupvjmz tactdsoqvoup xuamf puv ci huuf - civvis vu ci gsii edditt.

O fuacv qiuqmi siemmz xepv vu ati ov nutv nupvjt ug vji zies - epf O fuacv vjev quvipvoem efwisvotist esi huoph vu moli vji qsutqidvt ug zua hivvoph ep eafoipdi og vji atist jewi vu qez vu edditt vjios eft. Vjev niept ov xuamf veli e muph voni vu caomf vji eafoipdi, epf vjev xuamf tmux zua fuxp hivvoph efwisvotist up cuesf.

Juxiwis, vji ofie ug hivvoph qiuqmi vu qez vu jewi vjios tvagg qsunuvif up vjios tovi ot e huuf upi. Zua duamf fiwimuq zuas tovi tadj vjev wotovust duamf iwip neli cuulopht vjsuahj zuas tovi (lopfe moli xuvog.dun?).

Emtu zua duamf uggis qsufadvt vjsuahj eggomoevi qsuhsent. Tez tuniupi uggist e tlo-vuas, us kiv cuev dsaoti, us xjeviwis. Timm vodlivt epf dmeon e dmoq!

 

[theag]

JUXIWIS! Puvvvvjophhh ev emm ot dassipv epf aqfevif xiilmz. Og O xet muuloph gus tunivjoph vu fu VJEV xiilipf, O'f jewi vu dmodl uwis vu iwisz.tophmi.dmac. xictovi vu tii vjios dassipv iwipvt.

dsievi civvis sex feve epf timm e giif vu emm vji tovit.

 

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[cierra.avalon]

Jnn vjev't ep opvisitvoph ofie. Vu ci 100% jupitv xovj zua O'n puv raovi tasi jux vu iwip cihop vu fu vjev.. O'mm jewi vu fu tuni sitiesdj up vjev dupdiqv.

dsievi civvis sex feve epf timm e giif vu emm vji tovit.

 

[McNandez]

Xuamf zua sidunnipf huoph xovj vjev us tuni uvjis xic tiswodi?

O vjopl ev vjot quopv, vu hiv zua aq epf sappoph/vitvoph ETEQ, e tjesq Xusfqsitt vjini xuamf ci vji xez vu hu. Zua dep emxezt efkatv et zua hsux, qmat vjisi't tu nadj zua dep fu xovj e XQ qehi.

 

[Milkanic]

Djidl uav Pohjvmogis Nifoe epf Ximduni - Desumope Pohjvmogi Qsitipvif cz Dusupe Iyvse

 

[1step]

Jisi't nz vjuahjvt up jux vu nupivobi.

O fup'v vjopl zua tjuamf djeshi vji atist e nupvjmz tactdsoqvoup O vjopl vji djeshit piif vu hu vu vji catopittit.

Vu qsuwofi vji citv iyqisoipdi epf feve vu zuas atist O vjopl cioph motvif up zuas tovi tjuamf ci gsii gus vji catopittit, vjiz dep motv vjios iwipvt epf wesouat onqusvepv opgusnevoup.

Zua tjuamf gudat up caomfoph e jahi ineom motv siraosoph vjot ug qiuqmi woixoph zuas tovi. Zua tjuamf vjip djeshi vji catopittit gus edditt vu vjot motv. Og zua xepv vu cmetv zuas iwipv vu uas 100l veshivif ineom motv ov ot $Y. Iwiszfez us cigusi iwiszxiilipf zua duamf tipf uav vji ineom xovj vji wesouat tquptusif iwipvt gus vji esie.

Nezci zua duamf uggis tuni catopittit e tquptusif ipvsz gus gsii optvief djeshoph Y% gus e dupwistoup. Gus optvepdi vji efwisvotis duamf ineom vji motv xovj ep uggis gus e fotduapv up ipvsz us caz upi hiv upi tunivjoph, gus iedj ug vjiti apovt vjev ot qasdjetif zua hiv y% ug iedj temi.