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Even "Yahoo! Finance" writes about how the "Slowlane" can ruin your life!

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Normally I would not read any Yahoo articles but this one surprised me as it is exposing the slowlane. The title is:

7 College Graduates Whose Lives Were Wrecked by Student Loan Debt


It contains 7 real life examples of individuals who trusted in the Slowlane-Plan and are broke and desperate now, many years after graduation, some of them even homeless. Quote: "Student debt has become the defining feature of their lives — the millstone around their necks that holds them back from a full financial future."

The most interesting case is this one:

Since earning his MBA in 2004, Michael Pope, 38, has been bankrupt, homeless, and unable to find a job that pays well enough to tackle his $140,000 loan debt.

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"When I graduated at 24 with a B.S. in business, I was about $60,000 in debt between a car loan, student loans, and credit cards. I found a job I hated right after graduation and quit after a month. That wasn't a good move, but I did it. After living off of credit cards and bumping my total debt to $80,000, about 6 months later I finally landed another job as a low-level QA Engineer. I eventually paid down my debt to about $40,000. But my $12/hour wages weren't cutting it. I decided I needed an MBA to move up in my career. I earned one in 2004 (for the "low" price of $140,000), but it didn't open the doors I imagined it would. I've barely made a dent in paying off my debt. In the last 9 years, I've been homeless, bankrupt, and have consistently struggled to find employment that offered enough compensation or advancement to pay off a mountain of debt."

As told by Michael Pope, 38, of San Francisco, Calif.

The full article can be found here: Yahoo! Finance - Business Finance, Stock Market, Quotes, News
 
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"When I graduated at 24 with a B.S. in business, I was about $60,000 in debt between a car loan, student loans, and credit cards. I found a job I hated right after graduation and quit after a month. That wasn't a good move, but I did it. After living off of credit cards and bumping my total debt to $80,000, about 6 months later I finally landed another job as a low-level QA Engineer. I eventually paid down my debt to about $40,000. But my $12/hour wages weren't cutting it. I decided I needed an MBA to move up in my career. I earned one in 2004 (for the "low" price of $140,000), but it didn't open the doors I imagined it would. I've barely made a dent in paying off my debt.

So in other words, the guy double-down'd on stupid.

Choices have consequences and it's the consequences we have to live with.

but it didn't open the doors I imagined it would.

Pieces of paper that say "MBA" doesn't "open doors" ... PEOPLE open doors.
 

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Interesting article.

Question about the second person, Carla. If she got a mortgage and included her student loan into it, didn't her student loan get paid off by the mortgage? If so, couldn't she declare bankruptcy them and get it wiped out?
 
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Think that's bad? Check this out:

Government projects to make $50B in student loan profit

Student loans making more than some of the biggest companies out there. Student loans are the ultimate "Payday loan" business model. From what I understand, they're giving out student loans these days like candy.

While I think education is important (specifically self-education), giving people $200k to get a liberal arts degree, knowing full well that person will be paying that debt off for the rest of their lives, is wrong.
 
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Think that's bad? Check this out:

Government projects to make $50B in student loan profit

Student loans making more than some of the biggest companies out there. Student loans are the ultimate "Payday loan" business model. From what I understand, they're giving out student loans these days like candy.

While I think education is important (specifically self-education), giving people $200k to get a liberal arts degree, knowing full well that person will be paying that debt off for the rest of their lives, is wrong.

The government doesn't care about the students. They want you to pay. I agree, that is wrong. Fortunately here in Quebec, the costs are pretty low. But having 100 000 k of loan debt is dumb.
 

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"When I graduated at 24 with a B.S. in business...
24 - 18 = 4 years right? He must be a smart guy if it didn't take him 2 more years to get his Bull.Shit. degree.


While I think education is important (specifically self-education), giving people $200k to get a liberal arts degree, knowing full well that person will be paying that debt off for the rest of their lives, is wrong.

I'm about to double standard blow your mind with this:

1) I don't think giving someone a loan for something they want is any problem. A banker giving a loan is not evil and greedy, the person who can't afford what they want and is therefore sacrificing interest and future income to have tomorrow now, is greedy.

2) I do however think it is INSANELY wrong to convince unknowing, 17 and 18 year old kids that the only way they will make it in life is by borrowing money and getting a worthless kindergarten gold star in the form of a degree. Not only do these kids literally not know any better, but often times they are conditioned into doing it, so I don't blame them. Their choice to consume is not a rational one.



MJ DeMarco said:
Pieces of paper that say "MBA" doesn't "open doors" ... PEOPLE open doors.
:thumbsup:

A lot of my friends know my story. They know where I've worked at what age and who I currently talk to, and the number one question they asked is how the hell did you do that without a degree? When I hire employees, I don't look for a piece of paper that tells me what their skills are, I look for solid, physical, action that shows me they can perform. These guys and gals submit pieces of their work as proof of their abilities, not a signed off sheet of paper. The other thing I look for, and I know a lot of other big companies look for too, is can this person solve problems. Often times a degree is like a rap sheet of their current skills. Here it is, but no more. If they don't know something, they ask for more paid education which takes time and money that businesses just aren't willing to allocate. You don't know something? That's your problem. Figure it out. The guy in the OP's article must have had neither of these factors going for him (execution & demonstration of problem solving).
 
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Mental, doing a 4 year BSc. in a top university in this country will cost you €6,000 tops, the government don't loan you the money for college fees, they give you the money.
 

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2) I do however think it is INSANELY wrong to convince unknowing, 17 and 18 year old kids that the only way they will make it in life is by borrowing money and getting a worthless kindergarten gold star in the form of a degree. Not only do these kids literally not know any better, but often times they are conditioned into doing it, so I don't blame them. Their choice to consume is not a rational one.

That's more of the point I was trying to get at. That's what I think is wrong. Not the lending of money itself.
 

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a bit too late. when mainstream media talks about it and when the average joe finds it out, it's too late
 

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