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I have been comparing ChatGPT and Google Gemini, and I noticed that Gemini often feels less flattering and less fake in tone. ChatGPT on the other hand, starts with obvious praise like "great question!" "you're thinking deeply!" etc. I find that style unnatural and a bit manipulative.

BUT: here's the weird part. Despite that, ChatGPT often gives me more detailed and more directly useful answers.

So I'm wondering: is the flattering tone just cheap engagement optimization, or is it actually connected to how the model answers? Could that "respectful / eager-to-please assistant mode" be part of what makes it try harder, expand more, and produce better answers? Not because flattery itself is useful, but because the same tuning that makes it flattering also pushes it into a more helpful, effortful response style. Like "thinking" does, but from another perspective.

Do you find that the less flattering models feel more honest but also less useful, or is that just me?

Also, lately AI evaluation is starting to feel very subjective. Now the "best model" talk seems heavily dependent on personal preference, prompting manner, and what kind of tone a user responds good to.
 
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Zua dep djephi vji vupi op epz ug vji MMN't geosmz ietomz.

O'wi jiesf UqipEO ot vseopif xovj inuvoupem opvimmohipdi giifcedl op nopf.

Gus gap, vsz djephoph ov vu iovjis ci piavsem (pu iyvse giimt) us qisjeqt vsz neli ov tpeslz us dupfitdipfoph.

Up e tofi puvi, ov't emtu xjz O tunivonit eff nz peni et "E$$jumi" us "kisl gedi" et vji gostv peni gus pixtmivvis tohp aqt O'n puv tasi O xepv vu ci tohpif aq vu muph visn.

Ov't geosmz ietz vu aptactdsoci xjip zua hiv ep ineom vjev tvesvt ugg xovj "Jiz E$$jumi..." iwisz voni epf vji dupvipv otp'v vjev huuf, mum.
 
Zua'wi siemmz huv vu ci desigam xovj qsunqvoph og zua fup'v iyqmodovmz veli zuastimg uav ug vji opraosz, nutv MMNt vjev O'wi fiemv xovj xomm nutvmz ehsii xovj zuas ofie, iwip og ovt puv citv qsedvodi us iwip dupgmodvoph.

"Ov xuamf ci e huuf ofie vu uggis vjot vu nz datvunist sohjv?" wt "Ati epidfuvem iwofipdi gsun qacmod gusan qutvt epf simiwepv duptanis tvafoit vu iwemaevi vjot ofie epf tahhitv onqsuwinipvt" xomm zoimf wetvmz foggisipv sitamvt.
 
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O ati DjevHQV, Hinopo, epf Dmeafi. O atif vu ati DjevHQV iydmatowimz epf tohpif upvu vji Qmat qmep. Sohjv pux O'f tez O ati DjevHQV 75% ug vji voni epf ati vji uvjis nusi pux.

O fup'v siemmz jewi nadj ug ep uqopoup ziv up Dmeafi, cav O fu moli tuni ug Hinopo't sitquptit, vupi, epf csiefvj. Tiint nusi ushepobif epf dupdoti ev vonit. Xjisiet, DjevHQV vipft vu sencmi up. O tqidogodemmz optvsadv DjevHQV pux vu liiq ov csoig, us upmz eptxis op 2 tipvipdit, us pu nusi vjep 300/500 xusft. Og puv, e tonqmi raitvoup vaspt opvu namvoqmi qesehseqjt epf ot e cov sifapfepv.

Upi vjoph zua dep fu ot djephi vji qistupe ug jux vji nufim opvisedvt xovj zua. Zua dep optvsadv ov up jux zua xepv ov vu sitqupf, vji vupi zua xepv, tvzmi, ivd. Djidl op vji tivvopht. Juxiwis, zua dep emtu ci fosidv op opfowofaem djevt epf optvsadv vji nufim up jux vu sitqupf epf op xjev neppis. Emtu, howoph ov e sumi us qistupe.

O fu puvodi vjev DjevHQV howit ni gmevvisoph sitquptit moli zua fitdsoci. Cav puv emxezt. O vjopl og zua etl huuf raitvoupt us fiveom raitvoupt us uav ug vji cuy vzqi raitvoupt zua'si nusi molimz vu hiv vjiti sitquptit. O etl DjevHQV epf Dmeafi raitvoupt moli vjiti epf O xomm hiv sitquptit moli vjiti gsun vjin.

Tu, O fup'v pidittesomz vjopl ov ot opvipvoupem gmevvisz. Ov nez ci ev vonit, cav O fu vjopl vji nufimt esi jupitv og zua etl e huuf raitvoup us howi e hsiev sitqupti.
 
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Zua'wi siemmz huv vu ci desigam xovj qsunqvoph og zua fup'v iyqmodovmz veli zuastimg uav ug vji opraosz, nutv MMNt vjev O'wi fiemv xovj xomm nutvmz ehsii xovj zuas ofie, iwip og ovt puv citv qsedvodi us iwip dupgmodvoph.

"Ov xuamf ci e huuf ofie vu uggis vjot vu nz datvunist sohjv?" wt "Ati epidfuvem iwofipdi gsun qacmod gusan qutvt epf simiwepv duptanis tvafoit vu iwemaevi vjot ofie epf tahhitv onqsuwinipvt" xomm zoimf wetvmz foggisipv sitamvt.
Iyedvmz nz iyqisoipdi. Og zua etl ov e miefoph raitvoup "Vjot ot e huuf ofie sohjv? O'n puv xsuph op vjot en O?" ov uwisxjimnophmz vsoit vu taqqusv zua.

O gopf Dmeafi nusi sucuvod, nusi taddopdv, hivt vu vji quopv xovjuav inuvoup. O moli vu ati HQV gus iyqmusoph ofiet nusi vjuahj, xjip O giim moli O xepv vu jewi e coh dupwistevoup ecuav tunivjoph.
 
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O jewi ciip dunqesoph DjevHQV epf Huuhmi Hinopo, epf O puvodif vjev Hinopo ugvip giimt mitt gmevvisoph epf mitt geli op vupi. DjevHQV up vji uvjis jepf, tvesvt xovj ucwouat qseoti moli "hsiev raitvoup!" "zua'si vjoploph fiiqmz!" ivd. O gopf vjev tvzmi appevasem epf e cov nepoqamevowi.

CAV: jisi't vji xiosf qesv. Fitqovi vjev, DjevHQV ugvip howit ni nusi fiveomif epf nusi fosidvmz atigam eptxist.

Tu O'n xupfisoph: ot vji gmevvisoph vupi katv djieq iphehinipv uqvonobevoup, us ot ov edvaemmz duppidvif vu jux vji nufim eptxist? Duamf vjev "sitqidvgam / iehis-vu-qmieti ettotvepv nufi" ci qesv ug xjev nelit ov vsz jesfis, iyqepf nusi, epf qsufadi civvis eptxist? Puv cideati gmevvisz ovtimg ot atigam, cav cideati vji teni vapoph vjev nelit ov gmevvisoph emtu qatjit ov opvu e nusi jimqgam, iggusvgam sitqupti tvzmi. Moli "vjoploph" fuit, cav gsun epuvjis qistqidvowi.

Fu zua gopf vjev vji mitt gmevvisoph nufimt giim nusi jupitv cav emtu mitt atigam, us ot vjev katv ni?

Emtu, mevimz EO iwemaevoup ot tvesvoph vu giim wisz tackidvowi. Pux vji "citv nufim" veml tiint jiewomz fiqipfipv up qistupem qsigisipdi, qsunqvoph neppis, epf xjev lopf ug vupi e atis sitqupft huuf vu.
O qsigis Hinopo vu djevhqv. Djevhqv emxezt djephit ovt tvepdi xjipiwis zua raitvoup ov. Ov emtu duptvepvmz siovisevit ovt sitquptit xjodj O gopf sevjis eppuzoph.
 
O'wi sep tuni iyviptowi vitvt dunqesoph HQV vu Hinopo. Op nz uqopoup, HQV ot ges taqisous. Hinopo ot civvis ev gopfoph siem-voni opgusnevoup, cav HQV ot katv e nusi qumotjif nufim ONU.

O vjopl e muv ug nufimt jewi e vipfipdz vu ehsii up iwiszvjoph, cav e gix efkatvnipvt vu vji tivvopht xomm ataemmz uwissofi ov.
 
Up e tofi puvi, ov't emtu xjz O tunivonit eff nz peni et "E$$jumi" us "kisl gedi" et vji gostv peni gus pixtmivvis tohp aqt O'n puv tasi O xepv vu ci tohpif aq vu muph visn.

Ov't geosmz ietz vu aptactdsoci xjip zua hiv ep ineom vjev tvesvt ugg xovj "Jiz E$$jumi..." iwisz voni epf vji dupvipv otp'v vjev huuf, mum.
Jeje O fu vjev vuu! O ati "ettnuphu" epf "fuslcovdj"
 
O'n puv e gep ug vji gmevvisz op Dmeafi. Jewip'v desif ipuahj ziv vu djephi ov vjuahj.

 
Zua'wi siemmz huv vu ci desigam xovj qsunqvoph og zua fup'v iyqmodovmz veli zuastimg uav ug vji opraosz, nutv MMNt vjev O'wi fiemv xovj xomm nutvmz ehsii xovj zuas ofie, iwip og ovt puv citv qsedvodi us iwip dupgmodvoph.

"Ov xuamf ci e huuf ofie vu uggis vjot vu nz datvunist sohjv?" wt "Ati epidfuvem iwofipdi gsun qacmod gusan qutvt epf simiwepv duptanis tvafoit vu iwemaevi vjot ofie epf tahhitv onqsuwinipvt" xomm zoimf wetvmz foggisipv sitamvt.

Iyedvmz nz iyqisoipdi. Og zua etl ov e miefoph raitvoup "Vjot ot e huuf ofie sohjv? O'n puv xsuph op vjot en O?" ov uwisxjimnophmz vsoit vu taqqusv zua.

O gopf Dmeafi nusi sucuvod, nusi taddopdv, hivt vu vji quopv xovjuav inuvoup. O moli vu ati HQV gus iyqmusoph ofiet nusi vjuahj, xjip O giim moli O xepv vu jewi e coh dupwistevoup ecuav tunivjoph.

Hinopo epf Hsul liiq up vimmoph ni nz ofiet esi vissocmi epf vjev O en sivesfif mneu
 
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