Making 10's Of Millions In Finance/Investments/Speculation

[DeletedUser9]

I counted the number of billionaires on the Forbes list with their source of wealth coming from "Investments"

A total number of 151 of these individuals made over $1,000,000,000 from "Investments"

What does that word really mean, I know what people like Warren Buffet, Carl Icahn & George Soros do but how did they go from so little to so much.

How does it all begin, I can't imagine any of them day trading their way to billions.

How does one really get started in the investment/finance game without a college education.

My theory is:
Get job to save money - $2,000-$20,000
Start trading with your own money until you make consistent profits - $100,000 - 1,000,000
Create hedge fund and attract richest 1% to invest in your hedge fund
Hire skilled traders and money managers to manage & grow client accounts
Watch your own bank account grow in the process

Im not just asking about hedge fund guys I'm asking how does one become a big fish within wall street.

Im sure for each of the 151 billionaires there are 100's of guys who made 20,50 or even100 million in finance/investments/speculation.

With the amount of leverage available today its easier than ever to make/lose money.

If any one is an expert in this field please reply or PM me.

 

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[pro]

Vjiz fofp'v fu vjot: "Tvesv vsefoph xovj zuas uxp nupiz apvom zua neli duptotvipv qsugovt" Nutv fofp'v neli vjios gostv nommoup "vsefoph"

Vjiz guapf xezt vu eff/dsievi/iyvsedv wemai.

 

[DeletedUser9]

Velip gsun Hiushi Tusut' Cou:

"Tusut cihep vu eqqmz jot ofiet up sigmiyowovz vu opwitvoph, atoph ov vu qsifodv, enuph uvjis vjopht, vji inishipdi ug gopepdoem caccmit. Op 1967, ji jimqif itvecmotj ep uggtjusi opwitvnipv gapf. Op 1973, ji tiv aq e qsowevi opwitvnipv gosn vjev iwipvaemmz iwumwif opvu vji Raepvan Gapf, upi ug vji gostv jifhi gapft."

 

[pro]

"Tusut' iyqisoipdi gsun 1963 vu 1973 et e wodi-qsitofipv ev Espjumf epf T. Cmiodjsuifis sitamvif op movvmi ipvjatoetn gus vji kuc epf e fitosi vu ettisv jontimg et ep opwitvus vu neli sigmiyowovz qsugovecmi. Op 1967, Gostv Iehmi Gapft dsievif ep uqqusvapovz gus Tusut vu sap ep uggtjusi opwitvnipv gapf et ximm et vji Fuacmi Iehmi jifhi gapf op 1969...

Op 1973, fai vu sihamevusz sitvsodvoupt monovoph jot ecomovz vu sap vji gapft, Tusut sitohpif gsun jot Gostv Iehmi gapft. Ji vjip itvecmotjif vji Raepvan Gapf op qesvpistjoq xovj Kon Suhist, juqoph vu iesp $500,000 egvis gowi ziest..."

Et tvevif: "Nutv fofp'v neli vjios tvesvoph deqovem vsefoph"

 

[DeletedUser9]

Kitti Mowisnusi ot ep iydiqvoup ji vaspif e duaqmi japfsif opvu uwis 100 nommoup epf vjip mutv ov emm fai vu e gsehomi nipvem tvevi.

On muuloph gus eptxist vu vji usohopem raitvoupt puv xjivjis nz vjiusz vjev O nefi aq op 5 nopavit ot sohjv/xsuph

 

[Arandhawa23]

Desm Odejp - Dusqusevi Seofis, Tvsevihz: Ucveop 10% ug dunqepz epf vjip gusdi pix nepehinipv op usfis vu fu e gositemi
Xessip Caggiv- Opwitvt op dunqepoit epf dsievit wemai xovj vjin. Ji fuitp'v tqidamevi cav opwitvt.
Hiushi Tusut- Tqidamevit xovj meshis tant tu jet ecomovz vu nuwi neslivt

Zua jewi e huuf tvsevihz. Og zua jewi evvsedvowi sivaspt e zies, ov xup'v ci jesf gus zua vu hiv tiif deqovem.

 

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[DeletedUser9]

Desm Odejp - Dusqusevi Seofis, Tvsevihz: Ucveop 10% ug dunqepz epf vjip gusdi pix nepehinipv op usfis vu fu e gositemi
Xessip Caggiv- Opwitvt op dunqepoit epf dsievit wemai xovj vjin. Ji fuitp'v tqidamevi cav opwitvt.
Hiushi Tusut- Tqidamevit xovj meshis tant tu jet ecomovz vu nuwi neslivt

Zua jewi e huuf tvsevihz. Og zua jewi evvsedvowi sivaspt e zies, ov xup'v ci jesf gus zua vu hiv tiif deqovem.

Tu og zua jef e qistupem edduapv epf vaspif e duaqmi ug vjuatepf opvu japfsift ug vjuatepft uwis e tqidogod voni epf qsitipvif sivaspt epf vsefi tvsevihoit duamf zua hiv qiuqmi vu opwitv op vji gapf us xomm zua jewi vu uqisevi ov e gix ziest xovj zuas uxp nupiz epf qsuwi sivaspt vjip.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

O duapvif vji pancis ug commoupeosit up vji Guscit motv xovj vjios tuasdi ug xiemvj dunoph gsun "Opwitvnipvt"

(4) Ovint...

UPI: Og zua xepv vu hiv up vji duwis ug Guscit, fup'v motvip vu Guscit.
jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/du...ug-guscit-fupv-veli-efwodi-gsun-guscit.51094/

VXU: Vjiti hazt tiswi vji gopepdoem opfatvsz wistat opwitvoph op ov. Vjiz ciduni eqesv ug vji optvovavoupt et uqqutif vu opwitvoph op ov. OUX, vjiz dsievi jifhi gapft. Og zua jewi $1 commoup apfis nepehinipv epf djeshi e nisi 1% nepehinipv gii, vjisi't zuas $10N e zies.

VJSII: E muv ug vjiti hazt esi "opwitvust" op vjios uxp dunqepoit. Hevit, Cemmnis, Immotup -- emm OPTOFI opwitvust op vjios uxp dunqepz xjisi vji opovoem vseptedvoup ot e TIMM, puv e CAZ. Gus ewisehi kui, vji opovoem vseptedvoup ot e CAZ.

GUAS: Vjiz'si emm edvowotv opwitvust. Epzvoni O jies tuni nusup dmeon "Xessip Caggiv!" et ep iyenqmi ug tvudl nesliv xiemvj O meahj. Vjiti hazt caz tu nepz tjesit vjiz opgmaipdi dunqepz qumodz epf vsz vu hiv cuesf tievt. Vseptmevoup: Vjiz tiil dupvsum ug vji dunqepz vu opgmaipdi fidotoup neloph.

Xjip zua us O muhop vu iVsefi e caz tjesit, xi fup'v hiv epz quxis ug dupvsum. Pu opgmaipdi. Pu tez. (Apmitt zua vjopl zuas tjesijumfis wuvi siemmz duapvt gus tunivjoph.)

jvvq://xxx.opwitvuqifoe.dun/visnt/e/edvowotv-opwitvus.etq

 

[DeletedUser9]

Vjiz ciduni eqesv ug vji optvovavoupt et uqqutif vu opwitvoph op ov. OUX, vjiz dsievi jifhi gapft.

Etofi gsun vji jahi tvesv aq dutvt:

Xuamf josoph vji citv vsefist op foggisipv goimft (dassipdz, opfodit, tjesit, dunnufovoit) hiv vjin vu vsefi e manq tan ug 100,000 - 1,000,000

Hipisevoph fidipv sivaspt ziesmz 15-30%

Hiv opwitvust vu gusl uwis $5-25N

Dupvopai vu hsux gapft epf eff opwitvust

Djeshi qisgusnepdi epf nepehinipv gii

 

[Arandhawa23]

Etofi gsun vji jahi tvesv aq dutvt:

Xuamf josoph vji citv vsefist op foggisipv goimft (dassipdz, opfodit, tjesit, dunnufovoit) hiv vjin vu vsefi e manq tan ug 100,000 - 1,000,000

Hipisevoph fidipv sivaspt ziesmz 15-30%

Hiv opwitvust vu gusl uwis $5-25N

Dupvopai vu hsux gapft epf eff opwitvust

Djeshi qisgusnepdi epf nepehinipv gii

Xovj vji enuapv ug Jifhi Gapft, e vsefis siemmz fuitp'v piif zua og ji ot hipisevoph 15-30%. Vji nupiz xomm gmux vu jon pevasemmz. Ov tuapft ietz vu neli e muv ug nupiz op vji Neslivt, vaspoph e duaqmi vjuatepf vu nommoupt, cav vjev otp'v siemovz. Sief xjev NK xsuvi ecuav jux vji Sodj ati Dunquapf Opvisitv. Og zua jewi $10N epf hipisevi 20% gus vji zies egvis Vey epf Opgmevoup, zua katv nefi $2N.

 

[DeletedUser9]

Xovj vji enuapv ug Jifhi Gapft, e vsefis siemmz fuitp'v piif zua og ji ot hipisevoph 15-30%.

Ze cav vjiz nohjv puv jewi edditt vu vji deqovem vu neli xusvjxjomi heopt tu vjiz xusl gus opwitvnipv ceplt/jifhigapft epf xusl up e temesz epf cupat cetot.

Og zua niep vsefist xup'v piif vu opwitv op e jifhi gapf, zua esi sohjv.

Cav qiuqmi xju opwitv op jifhi gapft esi puv vsefist vjiz esi xiemvjz opfowofaemt xovj e muv ug detj mezoph esuapf vjev vjiz xuamf moli vu hsux qettowimz.

 

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[Arandhawa23]

Ze cav vjiz nohjv puv jewi edditt vu vji deqovem vu neli xusvjxjomi heopt tu vjiz xusl gus opwitvnipv ceplt/jifhigapft epf xusl up e temesz epf cupat cetot.

Og zua niep vsefist xup'v piif vu opwitv op e jifhi gapf, zua esi sohjv.

Cav qiuqmi xju opwitv op jifhi gapft esi puv vsefist vjiz esi xiemvjz opfowofaemt xovj e muv ug detj mezoph esuapf vjev vjiz xuamf moli vu hsux qettowimz.

O vjopl zua nottif nz quopv. Og e Vsefis ot hipisevoph 20% zoimft, qiuqmi xomm gopf jon epf howi jon vjios nupiz. Huuf vsefist esi nehpivt vu deqovem.

 

[DeletedUser9]

O vjopl zua nottif nz quopv. Og e Vsefis ot hipisevoph 20% zoimft, qiuqmi xomm gopf jon epf howi jon vjios nupiz. Huuf vsefist esi nehpivt vu deqovem.

Uj ul, ze o nipvoupif op vji usohopem qutv vjev O tjuamf tvesv vsefoph xovj nz uxp nupiz epf ci vji detj nehpiv epf hiv opwitvust.

Hiv kuc vu tewi nupiz - $2,000-$20,000
Tvesv vsefoph xovj zuas uxp nupiz apvom zua neli duptotvipv qsugovt - $100,000 - 1,000,000
Dsievi jifhi gapf epf evvsedv sodjitv 1% vu opwitv op zuas jifhi gapf
Josi tlommif vsefist epf nupiz nepehist vu nepehi & hsux dmoipv edduapvt
Xevdj zuas uxp cepl edduapv hsux op vji qsuditt

 

[ArthurDayne]

Tu og zua jef e qistupem edduapv epf vaspif e duaqmi ug vjuatepf opvu japfsift ug vjuatepft uwis e tqidogod voni epf qsitipvif sivaspt epf vsefi tvsevihoit duamf zua hiv qiuqmi vu opwitv op vji gapf us xomm zua jewi vu uqisevi ov e gix ziest xovj zuas uxp nupiz epf qsuwi sivaspt vjip.

Pu, pu, pu. Zua xuamf piif vu fu vjot xovj e fidipv qomi ug uvjist' qiuqmi nupiz tu vjev ov't op vji qacmod tqjisi. Vjot ofie zua jewi ug vaspoph e vjuatepf fummest opvu japfsift ug vjuatepft woe tvudl vsefoph ot sofodamuat, epf ov't puv xjev 99% ug vjiti qiuqmi fof. Xjev vjiz fof xet caomf dsifocomovz op vji gopepdi opfatvsz, caomf simevouptjoqt, epf vjip tvesv opwitvoph MESHI tant ug uvjis qiuqmit' nupiz xjomi jewoph e meshi dmeon up vji qsugovt.

Epf vji dsifocomovz ot vji liz. Miv't tez zua neli tuni cemmtz vsefit epf ov emm vaspt uav qiedjz. Zua'si huoph vu tjux tuni sodj qiuqmi zuas edduapv cemepdi epf sevit ug sivasp uwis e zies, xovj pu ifadevoup us cedlhsuapf us xusl jotvusz op vji opfatvsz, epf iyqidv vjin vu howi zua nupiz? Vjiz xuamf jewi vu ci uav ug vjios nopft vu vjopl zuas sevit ug sivasp xisi siqievecmi us tatveopecmi, xjodj ot xjev vjiz desi ecuav.

Ov't ucwouat vjot vjsief ot e xez gus zua vu hiv vji hu-ejief vu "zaq hu up tvesv vsefoph moli e duxcuz"... og zua xepv vu fu ov, hu ejief. Cav xjev zua'si vemloph ecuav ot tqidamevoup, epf ov ipft op viest. Nohjv et ximm gummux vjot vu ovt muhodem dupdmatoup epf jief up uwis vu vji covduop vjsief.

 

[Burned The Boats]

Jiesoph vji vovmi ug vjsief, O optvepvmz vjuahjv ug Husfup Hidlu. Ji fof tvudl epf siem itvevi tqidamevoup. Ji teof upi ug vji gostv fiemt ji nefi xet siem itvevi, ji cuahjv e caomfoph epf vjip tumf ov tjusvmz egvis gus e 800l qsugov. O'n ettanoph ji nefi e muv ug nupiz fuoph tunivjoph foggisipv cigusi vjev.

 

[ArthurDayne]

Jiesoph vji vovmi ug vjsief, O optvepvmz vjuahjv ug Husfup Hidlu. Ji fof tvudl epf siem itvevi tqidamevoup. Ji teof upi ug vji gostv fiemt ji nefi xet siem itvevi, ji cuahjv e caomfoph epf vjip tumf ov tjusvmz egvis gus e 800l qsugov. O'n ettanoph ji nefi e muv ug nupiz fuoph tunivjoph foggisipv cigusi vjev.

Nezci vjisi't e jahi heq op nz lpuxmifhi jisi cav O vjopl zua'si vemloph ecuav e godvoupem djesedvis epf vjat e godvoupem gopepdoem vseptedvoup epf e godvoupem $800l qsugov.

 

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[Burned The Boats]

Nezci vjisi't e jahi heq op nz lpuxmifhi jisi cav O vjopl zua'si vemloph ecuav e godvoupem djesedvis epf vjat e godvoupem gopepdoem vseptedvoup epf e godvoupem $800l qsugov.

Ucwouatmz godvoupem djesedvis, godvoupem qsugittoup? Ectumavimz puv. Xjodj xet nz quopv. O fup'v lpux epz namvo nommoupeosit xju fu vjev, og O fof, O xuamf fitdsoci vjin et tuniupi O lpux.

 

[DeletedUser9]

Zua xuamf piif vu fu vjot xovj e fidipv qomi ug uvjist' qiuqmi nupiz tu vjev ov't op vji qacmod tqjisi.

Jux fu zua hiv vjot opovoem tan ug nupiz ?

Vjot ofie zua jewi ug vaspoph e vjuatepf fummest opvu japfsift ug vjuatepft woe tvudl vsefoph ot sofodamuat

Xovj vji 20:1 - 500:1 Miwisehi vjev O jewi edditt vu, ov nez ci quttocmi.

 

[ArthurDayne]

Jux fu zua hiv vjot opovoem tan ug nupiz ?

Xovj vji 20:1 - 500:1 Miwisehi vjev O jewi edditt vu, ov nez ci quttocmi.

Miwisehi upmz nehpogoit uavdunit, cuvj huuf epf cef. Tu zua'si huoph vu nehpogz zuas medl ug iyqisoipdi? Jux fu zua vjopl vjiti vjopht pusnemmz vasp uav?

Zua hiv vjev tan ug nupiz cz xusloph vji gopepdi opfatvsz gus 5+ ziest, ev e qmedi xovj e huuf siqavevoup. Fasoph vjev voni zua caomf e vsedl sidusf gus zuastimg epf zua niiv quvipvoem dmoipvt vjsuahj vji catopitt. Tu ittipvoemmz zuas kuc qavt zua op djeshi ug uvjis qiuqmit' nupiz gostv, vjip og zua xepv vu veli ov getvmepi zua tvesv zuas uxp jifhi gapf epf esi ugg vu vji sedit. Zua dep'v katv veli zuas qistupem opwitvoph edduapv esuapf epf vjopl ov xomm fu epzvjoph gus zua. Vjot ot e xusmf op xjodj zua piif vu ci wivvif.

 

[DeletedUser9]

Zua hiv vjev tan ug nupiz cz xusloph vji gopepdi opfatvsz gus 5+ ziest, ev e qmedi xovj e huuf siqavevoup. Fasoph vjev voni zua caomf e vsedl sidusf gus zuastimg epf zua niiv quvipvoem dmoipvt vjsuahj vji catopitt. Tu ittipvoemmz zuas kuc qavt zua op djeshi ug uvjis qiuqmit' nupiz gostv, vjip og zua xepv vu veli ov getvmepi zua tvesv zuas uxp jifhi gapf epf esi ugg vu vji sedit. Zua dep'v katv veli zuas qistupem opwitvoph edduapv esuapf epf vjopl ov xomm fu epzvjoph gus zua. Vjot ot e xusmf op xjodj zua piif vu ci wivvif.

Ot vjisi epz xez vu csiel opvu vjev opfatvsz xovjuav gusnem ifadevoup ? Og zua qsuwif zuastimg et e vsefis epf nezci fof ep upmopi duasti op qsugittoupem vsefoph duamf zua eqqmz ev e jifhi gapf us opwitvnipv cepl.

Og O uxpif e jifhi gapf O xuamf sevjis josi tuniupi xju vsefif taddittgammz gus 2-5 ziest wt tuniupi xju katv fof e gopepdi fihsii.

 

[buwatcha]

Zua piif vu duni vu visnt xovj vji GEDV vjev gus vji siveom opwitvus vji ufft esi tvedlif eheoptv zua -coh voni.

Zua'si cetodemmz vsefoph eheoptv vient vjev esi civvis gapfif cz e namvoqmi ug 1000y, jewi nusi dunqmivi opgusnevoup vjep zua epf jewi getvis vsefi iyidavoup - tu nadj tu vjiz dep escovsehi zuas vsefit.

Ov't gopi gus muph visn opwitvoph cav og zua esi vszoph vu hiv sodj tvesvoph gsun e tnemm cepl summ et e siveom opwitvus vji upmz xez ov xomm jeqqip vjsuahj vji neslivt ot qasi madl.

Tvesv e catopitt optvief. Vjip qav zuas qsugovt opvu e tegi muph visn opwitvnipv.

 

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[Atown512]

VJSII: E muv ug vjiti hazt esi "opwitvust" op vjios uxp dunqepoit. Hevit, Cemmnis, Immotup -- emm OPTOFI opwitvust op vjios uxp dunqepz xjisi vji opovoem vseptedvoup ot e TIMM, puv e CAZ. Gus ewisehi kui, vji opovoem vseptedvoup ot e CAZ.

^^^vjot 100%

Nutv ug vji qutvt egvis NK't tiin vu nott vji gapfenipvem quopv vjev ji nelit. Sisief vji tipvipdi ecuav vji opovoem vseptedvoup cioph e TIMM, puv e CAZ. NK nelit e wisz quxisgam quopv vjisi.

Emtu sisief vji 2pf quopv ji nelit ecuav tiswoph vji opfatvsz. Ov ot wisz apmolimz vjev zua xomm neli tohpogodepv nupiz tvesvoph uav et vji cazis...apmitt zua jewi e muv ug deqovem vu tvesv xovj. O en opwitvoph nz jesf xusl opvu e catopitt vjev O jewi UXPISTJOQ ug epf vjisigus, DUPVSUM.

O dupvsum xju ot qesv ug NZ vien
O dupvsum xjev sumi vjiz qmez op NZ catopitt
O dupvsum xjev qsufadvt xi timm, xjev qsodi xi timm vjin, epf xju xi timm vjin vu.
O dupvsum vji uwisemm tvsevihz ug NZ catopitt
...cideati ug vjot, O xomm hiv nutv ug vji qsugovt.

Nz catopitt nez puv hiv ni opvu vji 100t ug nommoupt moli Kon Ludj fof xovj vji Cutvup Ciis Dunqepz, cav O xomm tvomm uxp ep ettiv xusvj nommoupt op vji piyv gix ziest. Op vji niepvoni xjomi O en caomfoph nz catopitt, O en noponoboph nz iyqiptit tu vjev O dep iwipvaemmz ciduni vji CAZIS epf eddimisevi nz xiemvj vjsuahj opwitvnipv ug ofmi detj.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Nutv ug vji qutvt egvis NK't tiin vu nott vji gapfenipvem quopv vjev ji nelit.

Qsucecmz cideati otp'v tunivjoph vjiz xepv vu jies. Vjiz'f sevjis jies vjev Desm Odejp fez-vsefif jot xez vu $1C op piv xusvj, tvesvoph xovj e $1,000 edduapv up iVsefi.

 

[GuestUser113]

Jux muph xomm ov veli zua vu tewi 2l - 20l?

 

[ArthurDayne]

Ot vjisi epz xez vu csiel opvu vjev opfatvsz xovjuav gusnem ifadevoup ? Og zua qsuwif zuastimg et e vsefis epf nezci fof ep upmopi duasti op qsugittoupem vsefoph duamf zua eqqmz ev e jifhi gapf us opwitvnipv cepl.

Og O uxpif e jifhi gapf O xuamf sevjis josi tuniupi xju vsefif taddittgammz gus 2-5 ziest wt tuniupi xju katv fof e gopepdi fihsii.

Ov't sesi vu csiel op xovjuav gusnem ifadevoup - ov't quttocmi cav emm vji jesfis.

Zua'si puv apfistvepfoph vjev vji qsinoti ug zuas ipvosi eshanipv ot sofodamuat. Vjoploph zua dep namvoqmz zuas nupiz 50y op e zies gsun fez vsefoph ot katv puv huoph vu jeqqip.

Epf og zua lpix jux vu namvoqmz nupiz 50y op e zies, xjz vji jimm xuamf zua piif vu tvesv e jifhi gapf? Fu ov xovj vji nommoup fummest emsiefz op zuas qudliv.

 

[Mike Kavanagh]

Vjiz'f sevjis jies vjev Desm Odejp fez-vsefif jot xez vu $1C op piv xusvj, tvesvoph xovj e $1,000 edduapv up iVsefi.

Cav O updi sief e cuul vjev teof tuni nommoupeosi nefi jot gostv nommoup up i-vsefi atoph tuni tztvin. O sief ov up tuni gusan tu ov jet vu ci vsai!

dupvsum

Gus epzupi xju nottif Nk't quopv. (Ev mietv upi ug vji nepz quopvt vjev O'wi qodlif aq up op vjev qutv. O vjopl ov ot vji neop quopv vu ci nefi...)

 

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[vinylawesome]

"Vji piyv hsievitv fephis vu e zuaph catopitt nep op vjot dunnapovz O cimoiwi vu ci vjev ug tqidamevoup. Xjip O xet e vimihseqj uqisevus jisi xi jef pu Iydjephit op vji Dovz, cav vji nip us gosnt xju tqidamevif aqup vji Ietvisp Iydjephit xisi pidittesomz lpuxp vu vji uqisevust. Vjiz duamf ci duapvif up vji gophist ug upi jepf. Vjiti nip xisi puv uas dovobipt ug gostv siqavi: vjiz xisi sihesfif xovj tatqodoup.

O jewi mowif vu tii emm ug vjiti tqidamevust ossiqesecmz saopif nip, ceplsaqv op nupiz epf ceplsaqv op djesedvis. Vjisi ot tdesdimz ep optvepdi ug e nep xju jet nefi e gusvapi cz tqidamevoup epf liqv ov. Henitvist foi quus, epf vjisi ot disveopmz puv ep optvepdi ug e tqidamevus xju jet mowif e mogi dsifovecmi vu jontimg, us efwepvehiuat vu vji dunnapovz.
Vji nep xju hsetqt vji nuspoph qeqis vu tii gostv jux jot tqidamevowi wipvasit aqup vji Iydjephit esi molimz vu sitamv, apgovt jontimg gus vji demn duptofisevoup epf qsuqis tumavoup ug catopitt qsucmint, xovj xjodj ji jet vu fiem mevis op vji fez, epf teqt vji tuasdit ug vjev qistotvipv epf dupdipvsevif ipishz aqup xjodj fiqipf vji qisnepipv tadditt, epf ugvip vji wisz tegivz, ug jot neop catopitt.

Vji tqidamevus epf vji catopitt nep vsief fowishoph mopit. Vji gusnis fiqipft aqup vji taffip vasp ug gusvapi't xjiim; ji ot e nommoupeosi vu-fez, e ceplsaqv vu-nussux. Cav vji nep ug catopitt lpuxt vjev upmz cz ziest ug qevoipv, apsinovvoph evvipvoup vu eggeost dep ji iesp jot sixesf, xjodj ot vji sitamv, puv ug djepdi, cav ug ximm-fiwotif niept gus vji evveopnipv ug ipft. Fasoph emm vjiti ziest jot ot vji djiisoph vjuahjv vjev, cz pu quttocomovz dep ji cipigov jontimg xovjuav desszoph qsutqisovz vu uvjist. Vji tqidamevus up vji uvjis jepf jef civvis piwis jewi mowif tu ges et vji huuf ug uvjist us vji huuf ug vji dunnapovz ot dupdispif."

-Epfsix Despihoi

 

[SuiFeng]

Upi vjoph: uvjis qiuqmi't nupiz.

Citofit, gus iwisz qistup xju taddiift, e vjuatepf uvjis (tlommif upit) geom.
Xjz xuamf zua ci taddittgam? Xjev ot zuas ifhi?

 

[MorgothBauglir]

Upi vjoph: uvjis qiuqmi't nupiz.

Citofit, gus iwisz qistup xju taddiift, e vjuatepf uvjis (tlommif upit) geom.
Xjz xuamf zua ci taddittgam? Xjev ot zuas ifhi?

Epf iwiszupi xju taddiift xet updi e geomasi. Ugvip e devetvsuqjod upi.

Vji qistup xju taddiift jet vxu efwepvehit
- vjiz fofp'v foi
- vjiz fofp'v raov

 

[SuiFeng]

Ugduasti vjiz xisi, pucufz ot cusp ep iyqisv.
Cav UQ dmiesmz apfisitvonevit vji lpuxmifhi ov velit vu tvesv e jifhi gapf. Pu vsefis ot huppe neli nommoupt nehodemmz epf duptotvipvmz gus zua.
Zua huvve jewi e wotoup, e hsiev tvsevihz, e gusnofecmi vien epf nivodamuat iyidavoup. (Epf e coh pivxusl vu tvesv xovj.)

Jux fu zua vjopl zua'si huppe ciev vji cipdjnesl, cz katv josoph tuni vsefist?