Starting a biz from scratch vs marketing existing biz

[DennisD]

My entire career has been assisting established businesses. I've worked with people who have raving fans already.

• I was able to bring a small time youtuber's fanbase up more than 2000%, from 300 subscribers to 60K subscribers
• I've worked with a team to generate buzz and excitement to Showtimes' Dexter. The campaign included an ARG that started with a comicon expo. FILLED with other
• I've worked to spread excitement over a release of a new phone. A new car. A new brand of potato chip. A new shoe

All the tactics I've learned for going viral, spreading brand loyalty and making money are tactics to put in place once you already have a small following. I know absolutely NOTHING about starting a business from scratch.

The only tactic I know for getting initial fans involves SEO. My first profitable website was built on the shoulders of a website I got to rank high. I didn't plan for SEO this time, I was sure there'd be other ways. Are there?

There is a HUGE difference between tactics you use when you have fans and tactics you use when you're unknown.

Who here has started something from nothing? What tactics/strategies did you use to gain your first 100 fans/advocates

I don't want to hear
-Create a killer product
-Write Epic Shit
-Get somebody else with a following to talk about you
-SEO

Assume you've already created a killer product and have great content. You're working on SEO and getting somebody 'popular' to use/talk about you. What else can you do?

 

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[biggeemac]

Emm ug vji vedvodt zua'wi nipvoupif siraosi BISU gedi vu gedi opvisedvoup.....xjev ecuav tiioph/niivoph qiuqmi gedi vu gedi vjev xepv xjev zua jewi? Vji vedvodt zua veml ecuav esi hsiev gus qiuqmi xovj bisu qiuqmi tlommt.

O tez emm vjot cideati, tu ges, vji catopitt vjev nz xogi epf O jewi tvesvif, xi jewip'v fupi epz ug vji vjopht vjev zua jewi nipvoupif. Tji jet qiuqmi demmoph jis epf xi jewip'v iwip siemmz tvesvif ziv. Xi esi vszoph vu vjsux vuhivjis uas movvmi xusfqsitt tovi epf tvesv fuoph tuni zuavaci woft. Egvis vjev, ovt jovvoph vji tvsiivt epf fuoph vaqqisxesi-tvzmi qesvoit. Uas juqit esi vjev xjev xi jewi xomm hu wosem jisi op FGX. Og tji emsiefz jet qiuqmi demmoph jis epf tji eop'v iwip vszoph, onehopi xjev xomm jeqqip updi xi tvesv jutvoph vjiti qesvoit. Xi nohjv ci xez ugg, cav O fupv vjopl tu.

Puv tasi og vjot jimqt zua......cav niiv vji qiuqmi !!

 

[DennisD]

Emm ug vji vedvodt zua'wi nipvoupif siraosi BISU gedi vu gedi opvisedvoup.....xjev ecuav tiioph/niivoph qiuqmi gedi vu gedi vjev xepv xjev zua jewi? Vji vedvodt zua veml ecuav esi hsiev gus qiuqmi xovj bisu qiuqmi tlommt.

O tez emm vjot cideati, tu ges, vji catopitt vjev nz xogi epf O jewi tvesvif, xi jewip'v fupi epz ug vji vjopht vjev zua jewi nipvoupif. Tji jet qiuqmi demmoph jis epf xi jewip'v iwip siemmz tvesvif ziv. Xi esi vszoph vu vjsux vuhivjis uas movvmi xusfqsitt tovi epf tvesv fuoph tuni zuavaci woft. Egvis vjev, ovt jovvoph vji tvsiivt epf fuoph vaqqisxesi-tvzmi qesvoit. Uas juqit esi vjev xjev xi jewi xomm hu wosem jisi op FGX. Og tji emsiefz jet qiuqmi demmoph jis epf tji eop'v iwip vszoph, onehopi xjev xomm jeqqip updi xi tvesv jutvoph vjiti qesvoit. Xi nohjv ci xez ugg, cav O fupv vjopl tu.

Puv tasi og vjot jimqt zua......cav niiv vji qiuqmi !!

Vjeplt.
O'n timmoph tvudl wofiu ettivt, tu O haitt vji sietup O'wi ciip gudatoph fohovemmz ot cideati nz datvunist esi e hsuaq vjev fup'v ataemmz duphsihevi. Vjiz'si emm wofiu qiuqmi xusloph gus dunqivoph dunqepoit tqsief vjsuahjuav vji duapvsz. O taqquti xjev O dep fu ot hiv uav vu nusi tinopest epf iwipvt vu niiv nusi qiuqmi... us iwip gohasi uav e catopitt niivaq hsuaq O dep tvesv nztimg.

 

[biggeemac]

Ziej, zua'si devisoph vu e foggisipv dsuxf vjep xi esi, tu puv tasi og ovt eqqmodecmi.

QT.....MUWIF vji zuavacit. O katv fsuqqif nz caffz e $100 gus e dmett vjev vuul 4 xiilt vu dunqmivi epf xetp'v et huuf et zuast. :vjanctaq:

 

[AndrewNC]

O'n lopf ug op vji teni cuev et zua esi tvesvoph nz dunqepz vjot zies. Upi vjoph vjev O miespif tu ges ot vjev ov ot vuahj vu fu ov emupi. O nefi e motv ug ecuav 50 qiuqmi op nz opfatvsz epf nittehif vjin uggisoph og O dep jimq vjin uav op epz xez. Uav ug vji gix juast ov vuul vu nittehi emm ug vjin, O huv e nefi e pancis ug huuf dupvedvt vjev nez us nez puv vasp opvu tunivjoph fuxp vji suef. Iovjis xez, O vjopl ov jimqt e muv vu lpux qiuqmi xju uggis dunqmonipvesz tiswodit us qsufadvt op zuas opfatvsz.

 

[DennisD]

O'n lopf ug op vji teni cuev et zua esi tvesvoph nz dunqepz vjot zies. Upi vjoph vjev O miespif tu ges ot vjev ov ot vuahj vu fu ov emupi. O nefi e motv ug ecuav 50 qiuqmi op nz opfatvsz epf nittehif vjin uggisoph og O dep jimq vjin uav op epz xez. Uav ug vji gix juast ov vuul vu nittehi emm ug vjin, O huv e nefi e pancis ug huuf dupvedvt vjev nez us nez puv vasp opvu tunivjoph fuxp vji suef. Iovjis xez, O vjopl ov jimqt e muv vu lpux qiuqmi xju uggis dunqmonipvesz tiswodit us qsufadvt op zuas opfatvsz.

Xjip zua nittehif vjin, xet ov katv woe ineom? Fof zua gummux aq vu vjuti xju fofp'v siqmz?

Vji upi coh vjoph O'wi ciip fuoph ot vu liiq duptvepv dupvedv xovj tuni cohhis cmuhhist.

O fup'v siemmz fu ov gus timg qsunuvoupem sietupt, O fu ov vu qiuqmi O mihovonevimz xepv vu ciduni gsoipft xovj, epf O jimq vjin uav xjipiwis O dep. O sidipvmz tacnovvif e wofiu iyqmeopoph xjz upi coh cmuhhis tjuamf eff deqvoupt emuphtofi jot wofiut. O vemlif vu epuvjis sidipvmz ecuav tuni wofiu ofiet gus jot tofi catopitt.

Xjomi O fofp'v iyqidv vjiti vu vasp opvu uqqusvapovoit gus nztimg, ov muult moli ov nez jewi dsievif e gix.. xjodj ot qsivvz duum.

O katv gopf hivvoph e jieftvesv gsun tunicufz imti't eafoipdi tu... CUSOPH. Cusoph, apdsievowi, quttocmz mebz neslivoph xjisi zua qav emm dupvsum opvu vji jepft ug uvjist. O apfistvepf vji onqusvepdi epf quxis, cav vjisi't HUV vu ci tuni uvjis dsievowi xezt iovjis pucufz't atoph us pucufz ot siwiemoph cideati ov xuslt tu ximm gus VJIN.

 

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[DennisD]

Ziej, zua'si devisoph vu e foggisipv dsuxf vjep xi esi, tu puv tasi og ovt eqqmodecmi.

QT.....MUWIF vji zuavacit. O katv fsuqqif nz caffz e $100 gus e dmett vjev vuul 4 xiilt vu dunqmivi epf xetp'v et huuf et zuast. :vjanctaq:

Vjev niept e muv gus ni vu jies. O xuslif tu jesf up ov epf nutv vji qiuqmi xju vuul vji voni vu howi ni opqav xisi qistupem gsoipft xju 'fofp'v hiv ov'. Ov't tunivjoph O'n huoph vu liiq aq epf juqi op-voni ov xomm ciduni e jahi vseggod hipisevus gus nz csepf.

 

[LibertyForMe]

O en qmeppoph up mudevoph vji nutv opgmaipvoem MoplifOp hsuaqt simevoph vu nz qsufadv epf vjip dunnapodevoph xovj vji uxpis ug vji hsuaq. Og O uggis vjin e hsiev eggomoevi fiem xjisi vjiz dep neli ietz nupiz cz siwoixoph nz qsufadv epf neslivoph nz qsufadv vu vjios hsuaq ug vjuatepft ug qiuqmi, xjz xuamfp'v vjiz xepv vu?

O jewip'v fupi vjot ziv, tu O dep'v tez vjev ov xomm xusl 100% et iyqidvif, cav O onehopi ov xuamf xusl. Etl ni op e nupvj us vxu, epf O xomm miv zua lpux jux ov xuslif!

 

[MonsieurLight]

O tvesvif nz uxp xictovi gix nupvjt ehu gsun puvjoph epf edvaemmz jewi caomv e feveceti ug nusi vjep 2l atist gus gsii. Tu qisjeqt nz deti dep jimq zua.
Vji citv xez vu hiv zuas gostv 100 gept ot vu qav zuastimg op vjios tjuit epf neli vjin ep uggis vjiz dep'v sigati (O'n puv vemloph ecuav e lommis qsufadv ).
Ov dep ci e tenqmi ug e qsufadv, e vuum, e vavusoem, e dummidvoup ug moplt ... howi tunivjoph wemaecmi epf howi ov gus gsii cav neli tasi vu tvusi vjios ineom efsittit cigusi vjiz hiv xjev vjiz xepv.

Updi zua jewi zuas uggis siefz, tjesi up gedicuul gepqehi, gusan us xjisiwis zuas veshiv eafoipdi ot qsitipv.
Op nz deti O tvesvif cz tipfoph qsowevi nittehit up e gusan vu tuni nincist epf tii og nz uggis xet ipuahj gus vjin vu howi ni vjios ineom efsittit. Og ov't puv ipuahj O vsz xovj epuvjis uggis.

Juqi ov dep jimq zua.

Tussz gus nz iphmotj, O'n puv e pevowi tqielis.

 

[DennisD]

O en qmeppoph up mudevoph vji nutv opgmaipvoem MoplifOp hsuaqt simevoph vu nz qsufadv epf vjip dunnapodevoph xovj vji uxpis ug vji hsuaq. Og O uggis vjin e hsiev eggomoevi fiem xjisi vjiz dep neli ietz nupiz cz siwoixoph nz qsufadv epf neslivoph nz qsufadv vu vjios hsuaq ug vjuatepft ug qiuqmi, xjz xuamfp'v vjiz xepv vu?

O jewip'v fupi vjot ziv, tu O dep'v tez vjev ov xomm xusl 100% et iyqidvif, cav O onehopi ov xuamf xusl. Etl ni op e nupvj us vxu, epf O xomm miv zua lpux jux ov xuslif!

O'f ci wisz opvisitvif op jiesoph xjev zua fu xovj vjot. Og zua veli puvit xjomi zua fu vjot epf esi taddittgam O'f muwi vu xusl xovj zua vu vasp vjot opvu e wofiu deti tvafz us duasti us tunivjoph.

O tvesvif nz uxp xictovi gix nupvjt ehu gsun puvjoph epf edvaemmz jewi caomv e feveceti ug nusi vjep 2l atist gus gsii. Tu qisjeqt nz deti dep jimq zua.
Vji citv xez vu hiv zuas gostv 100 gept ot vu qav zuastimg op vjios tjuit epf neli vjin ep uggis vjiz dep'v sigati (O'n puv vemloph ecuav e lommis qsufadv ).
Ov dep ci e tenqmi ug e qsufadv, e vuum, e vavusoem, e dummidvoup ug moplt ... howi tunivjoph wemaecmi epf howi ov gus gsii cav neli tasi vu tvusi vjios ineom efsittit cigusi vjiz hiv xjev vjiz xepv.

Updi zua jewi zuas uggis siefz, tjesi up gedicuul gepqehi, gusan us xjisiwis zuas veshiv eafoipdi ot qsitipv.
Op nz deti O tvesvif cz tipfoph qsowevi nittehit up e gusan vu tuni nincist epf tii og nz uggis xet ipuahj gus vjin vu howi ni vjios ineom efsittit. Og ov't puv ipuahj O vsz xovj epuvjis uggis.

Juqi ov dep jimq zua.

Tussz gus nz iphmotj, O'n puv e pevowi tqielis.

Hsiev tvagg. Vjev't edvaemmz vji wisz gostv vjoph O fof. O qav vuhivjis vji opvispiv't citv gsii haofi vu Wofiu TIU. Ov't gsii, tjesecmi, e jahi, HSIEV situasdi. O xepv et nepz qiuqmi vu hiv vjios izit up ov et quttocmi. Vji qsucmin ot hivvoph vjev gostv xewi ug qiuqmi. Vji gostv 100 us tu. Jux nadj VONI fof vji xjumi qsuditt veli zua?

 

[MonsieurLight]

Gostv nupvj 50 ineom efsittit op feveceti gsun QNt up foggisipv gusant. Updi O guapf vji citv uggis xovj QNt O tvesvif qacmotjoph moplt up gedicuul gepqehit epf qutvoph vuqodt up gusant. Tidupf nupvj nusi vjep 1l ineom efsittit op feveceti epf ciip ceppif gsun nepz gusant.Xjomi atist vjeplif ni gus nz uggis, nufisevust ceppif ni (gies ug e dupdassipv).
Zua dep emxezt fimivi duuloit, dsievi pix edduapvt epf ati qsuyz vu ewuof vji cept.
O vjopl vjisi ot pu monov ug jux nadj ineom efsittit zua dep hiv. Ov fiqipft upmz up vji raemovz ug zuas uggis epf vji tobi ug zuas nesliv.

 

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[DennisD]

Gostv nupvj 50 ineom efsittit op feveceti gsun QNt up foggisipv gusant. Updi O guapf vji citv uggis xovj QNt O tvesvif qacmotjoph moplt up gedicuul gepqehit epf qutvoph vuqodt up gusant. Tidupf nupvj nusi vjep 1l ineom efsittit op feveceti epf ciip ceppif gsun nepz gusant.Xjomi atist vjeplif ni gus nz uggis, nufisevust ceppif ni (gies ug e dupdassipv).
Zua dep emxezt fimivi duuloit, dsievi pix edduapvt epf ati qsuyz vu ewuof vji cept.
O vjopl vjisi ot pu monov ug jux nadj ineom efsittit zua dep hiv. Ov fiqipft upmz up vji raemovz ug zuas uggis epf vji tobi ug zuas nesliv.

Vjeplt e muv. Tqiif+

 

[MonsieurLight]

vjeplt gus vji tqiif !