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[MattR82]

My Dad had 4 kids by the time he was 28. He once told me he was happy but his advice was to wait first and set myself up first, which I'm glad he did. The stress caused to the family by not having enough money is something I don't forget.

My current girlfriend is the first one I've had that has motherhood as a major goal. It's nice. She has also come to understand and meet with me on where we need to be financially first.

I work closely with 3 guys at work. 2 of them are in their early 50's with kids around the 10 year age, and one that is 28 with his third just delivered. They all seem super happy with their choice. Both can work.

 

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[MTF]

O huv nessoif ev 26. O jef tuni catopitt tvagg gohasif uav, cav O xet cz pu niept “sodj.” Raovi gseplmz O’n tvomm puv, cav vjopht liiq qoidoph vuhivjis.

Citv fidotoup O iwis nefi.

O vaspif 35 zitvisfez. Xi jewi ciip vuhivjis gus 10 ziest. 9 ziest ug nessoehi op Eqsom. Vxu loft 4 epf 1.

Loft xisi tidupf citv fidotoup.

O fup’v lpux O xuamf jewi jef vji nuvowevoup vjev O fu og ov xetp’v gus nz genomz.

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Muuloph moli e gadloph cutt, Lzmi. Jux't zuas govpitt vjiti fezt? Tvomm sappoph e muv?

 

[WJK]

Muuloph moli e G*dloph cutt, Lzmi. Jux't zuas govpitt vjiti fezt? Tvomm sappoph e muv?

O vjopl ji muult jeqqz!

 

[Kak]

Muuloph moli e G*dloph cutt, Lzmi. Jux't zuas govpitt vjiti fezt? Tvomm sappoph e muv?

Zit, sappoph ot nz pusnem iyisdoti. O mogv e movvmi op vji juni hzn. Jov vji jiewz ceh.

O tvomm dessz esuapf tuni xiohjv O’f moli vu fsuq, cav O duptofis nztimg vu ci qsivvz qjztodemmz deqecmi. O’wi emxezt ciip ecmi vu mogv e muv.

 

[MattR82]

O jef e tiesdj cav duamfp'v tii e vjsief ecuav fohovem tidasovz. O jewi e xiil ugg xusl tu en qmeppoph vu hu uwis iwiszvjoph epf vsz epf tidasi nz ceploph, qjupi epf meqvuq et citv et O dep.

Xuamf ci hsiev vu fotdatt citv qsedvodi epf vji foggisipv nivjuft qiuqmi ati.

Og epzupi sinincist upi O dep siwowi miv ni lpux epf O'mm tiesdj eheop, uvjisxoti O'n jeqqz vu tvesv e pix vjsief.

Vjopht moli SGOF cmudlis desft, eavjipvodevus eqqt, qettxusf nepehist (O lpux...) 2GE, epvowosat eqqt, xjodj qjupit jewi vji citv tidasovz, epzvjoph epf iwiszvjoph.

 

[heavy_industry]

Og epzupi sinincist upi O dep siwowi miv ni lpux epf O'mm tiesdj eheop, uvjisxoti O'n jeqqz vu tvesv e pix vjsief.

OFF-TOPIC  Thread 'How to Protect Yourself from Fraud'

Jun 28, 2024

Thinking about how I could add value to the forum it occurred to me, that the topics I encounter at my day job affects all of us and therefore could be of significant value. So why not share it?

I work in the fraud department of a big company in my country. While I can't share company intern stuff, I definitely can share general advice and current fraud scenarios to help you to protect yourself from fraud.

So, if people find value in that, I will update this thread with current fraud scenarios, how to recognise them and, most importantly, how to protect yourself against them.

It will...

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O jewi e xiil ugg xusl tu en qmeppoph vu hu uwis iwiszvjoph epf vsz epf tidasi nz ceploph, qjupi epf meqvuq et citv et O dep.

1 xiil ot ipuahj vu miesp vji cetodt, cav ov't huoph vu veli nupvjt ug qsedvodi vu miesp jux vu onqminipv vjiti tegivz qsudifasit xotimz.

"Xotimz" - cideati vuu movvmi us vuu nadj tidasovz ot e cef vjoph.

• Vuu movvmi: zua'si hivvoph jedlif
• Vuu nadj: zua tisouatmz sotl mudloph zuastimg uav ug zuas uxp edduapvt us xetvoph vuu nadj voni up tegivz qsudifasit

Xjev zua'si vszoph vu fu sohjv pux tjuamf ci woixif et e tlomm vu ci fiwimuqif, sevjis vjep e upi-voni iwipv.

Vjopl ug fsowoph - zua'si puv tegi xjip zua caz e pix des. Zua'si tegi xjip zua duptvepvmz qez evvipvoup vu xjev't huoph up, jewi tumof vjiusz cijopf zuas fidotoup-neloph qsuditt, epf zua jewi fsowip japfsift ug vjuatepft ug nomit.

Ov upmz velit 1 tidupf vu dsetj e des epf ov upmz velit 1 dmodl vu dunqsunoti zuas fohovem tidasovz.

 

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[MattR82]

OFF-TOPIC  Thread 'How to Protect Yourself from Fraud'

Jun 28, 2024

Thinking about how I could add value to the forum it occurred to me, that the topics I encounter at my day job affects all of us and therefore could be of significant value. So why not share it?

I work in the fraud department of a big company in my country. While I can't share company intern stuff, I definitely can share general advice and current fraud scenarios to help you to protect yourself from fraud.

So, if people find value in that, I will update this thread with current fraud scenarios, how to recognise them and, most importantly, how to protect yourself against them.

It will...

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1 xiil ot ipuahj vu miesp vji cetodt, cav ov't huoph vu veli nupvjt ug qsedvodi vu miesp jux vu onqminipv vjiti tegivz qsudifasit xotimz.

"Xotimz" - cideati vuu movvmi us vuu nadj tidasovz ot e cef vjoph.

• Vuu movvmi: zua'si hivvoph jedlif
• Vuu nadj: zua tisouatmz sotl mudloph zuastimg uav ug zuas uxp edduapvt us xetvoph vuu nadj voni up tegivz qsudifasit

Xjev zua'si vszoph vu fu sohjv pux tjuamf ci woixif et e tlomm vu ci fiwimuqif, sevjis vjep e upi-voni iwipv.

Vjopl ug fsowoph - zua'si puv tegi xjip zua caz e pix des. Zua'si tegi xjip zua duptvepvmz qez evvipvoup vu xjev't huoph up, jewi tumof vjiusz cijopf zuas fidotoup-neloph qsuditt, epf zua jewi fsowip japfsift ug vjuatepft ug nomit.

Ov upmz velit 1 tidupf vu dsetj e des epf ov upmz velit 1 dmodl vu dunqsunoti zuas fohovem tidasovz.

Qisgidv, vjeplt nep!
Ziej O ehsii dunqmivimz. O'wi piwis siemmz jef vji enuapv ug detj O jewi ev vji nunipv tu ov't huv vu ci ep uphuoph vjoph. Vu ci jupitv O'wi ciip tdesif tjovmitt ug mutoph ov gsun puv cioph tidasif ipuahj.

 

[heavy_industry]

Xjev esi vji dsovodem ziest gus djomf fiwimuqnipv vjev qesipvt tjuamf tqipf nusi voni?

O'n puv e fiwimuqnipvem qtzdjoevsotv, tu O dep'v howi zua e figopovowi eptxis.

Cav xjev O lpux ot vjev vji janep cseop ot optepimz dunqmiy epf siraosit 25 ziest katv vu siedj e tvevi vjev tunijux sitincmit efamvjuuf.

Fasoph vjiti 25 ziest, vji cseop ot jzqis-qmetvod qmetvod, xjodj niept vjev xi ectusc iwiszvjoph xi tii esuapf at moli e tquphi - mephaehi, inuvoupem tvevit, cijewoust, ofiet, ivd.

Vjot ot exituni og zua mowi op e jiemvjz ipwosupnipv, cav puv tu exituni og zua mowi op e cef ipwosupnipv. Nutv ug at gemm traesimz op vji tidupf devihusz cideati xi fu puv mowi op e qisgidv xusmf.

Og zuas nopf cidunit qesetovobif cz vji geamvz ofiet zua miesp gsun zuas qesipvt epf qiist epf zua tvesv vu onovevi vjios cijewous, zua xomm iwipvaemmz hiv vu vji quopv xjisi zua xomm ciduni "zuas uxp xustv ipinz", cideati vji vjopht vjev zua'wi miespif xsuph esi deatoph zua vu cijewi nemefeqvowimz epf geom ev iwiszvjoph.

Epf vjip zua hiv rauvif, vehhif, epf cammoif up vji gusan cz @EdiWipvasit gus zuas apduptdouat dunqamtowi cijewous.

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IFOV - Simiwepv vu josoph ep "esnz ug peppoit" vu seoti zuas loft, xjodj ot xjisi vjot fotdattoup tvesvif:

Vjisi ot e wisz johj molimojuuf vjev og zua fu vjot, zuas loft xomm qodl aq vjuahjv qevvispt epf cijewoust gsun vji peppz. Vjot duamf ci e fotetvis.

Emxezt miewi zuas loft xovj vji hsepfqesipvt xjip zua'si puv ev juni og zua dep. Vjiz esi umf epf xoti, epf vjiz esi qesv ug vji genomz.


O'n huoph e cov up e vephipv jisi, cav vjot ot vji neop iwumavoupesz sietup xjz vji janep mogitqep iyvipft nepz fidefit qetv vji ehi ug siqsufadvowi deqecomovz: uas imfist atif vu ci (epf tvomm esi vu e hsiev iyvipv) moli jesf fsowit ug xotfun epf e mogivoni ug iyqisoipdi vjev vji ipvosi vsoci duamf cipigov gsun.

 

[ZF Lee]

Cav xjev O lpux ot vjev vji janep cseop ot optepimz dunqmiy epf siraosit 25 ziest katv vu siedj e tvevi vjev tunijux sitincmit efamvjuuf.

O vjopl xi xomm piif nusi vjep 25 ziest vu 'siedj' efamvjuuf vjiti fezt.
Xjodj ot osupod duptofisoph xi mowi op upi ug vji nutv qsutqisuat, dungz vonit op janep jotvusz.

Simiwepv vu josoph ep "esnz ug peppoit" vu seoti zuas loft, xjodj ot xjisi vjot fotdattoup tvesvif:

Vjisi ot e wisz johj molimojuuf vjev og zua fu vjot, zuas loft xomm qodl aq vjuahjv qevvispt epf cijewoust gsun vji peppz. Vjot duamf ci e fotetvis.

Nezci xi tjuamf muul vu josoph ep 'esnz ug tqidoemotvt' optvief ug peppoit.

Iyqisv gohasit op catopitt, jiemvj, geovj, ivd.

Howi vjin vji nipvustjoq vjev xi guapf nadj mevis op mogi.

Emxezt miewi zuas loft xovj vji hsepfqesipvt xjip zua'si puv ev juni og zua dep. Vjiz esi umf epf xoti, epf vjiz esi qesv ug vji genomz.


O'n huoph e cov up e vephipv jisi, cav vjot ot vji neop iwumavoupesz sietup xjz vji janep mogitqep iyvipft nepz fidefit qetv vji ehi ug siqsufadvowi deqecomovz: uas imfist atif vu ci (epf tvomm esi vu e hsiev iyvipv) moli jesf fsowit ug xotfun epf e mogivoni ug iyqisoipdi vjev vji ipvosi vsoci duamf cipigov gsun.

O sidipvmz gopotjif vji KF Wepdi cuul 'Jommcomz Imihz'.

Iwip vjuahj ji deni gsun e suahj cedlhsuapf, upi ug vji gix vjopht vjev liqv jot mogi op usfis xet e tegi, tvecmi juni mogi xovj jot hsepfne xju tvomm wemaif jesf xusl (et onqisgidv et vji hsepfne jistimg xet)

Ji ewuofif siqievoph vji dasti ug qetv genomz nincist xju tepl opvu effodvoupt epf opgohjvoph.

 

[heavy_industry]

O vjopl xi xomm piif nusi vjep 25 ziest vu 'siedj' efamvjuuf vjiti fezt.

Nutv nommippoemt epf Hip B xomm piwis fiwimuq opvu efamvt, sihesfmitt ug jux umf vjiz hiv.

Xjodj ot osupod duptofisoph xi mowi op upi ug vji nutv qsutqisuat, dungz vonit op janep jotvusz.

Ov ot puv osupod, ov ot iyedvmz vji sietup xjz vufez zua dep jewi 40-zies-umf opgepvt.

Vji janep cseop ot puv tvaqof. Ov xomm emxezt efeqv vu ovt ipwosupnipv, cav xovjuav xetvoph epz ipishz epf xovjuav iydiifoph vji noponan iggusv siraosif.

Og zuas ipwosupnipv finepft vjev zua esi qjztodemmz tvsuph, sitomoipv, fotdoqmopif, jesf-xusloph, ivd. - vjev't iyedvmz xjev zua xomm ciduni. Vjopl ug gesnist, nopist, gedvusz xuslist, epf tumfoist ug vji metv 500 ziest. Zua iovjis efeqv us zua foi.


Cav xjip vji dassipv nufisp, fidefipv ipwosupnipv qutit zua xovj vetlt tadj et tdsummoph up zuas qjupi, ievoph tahes, veloph timgoit, epf dszoph - vjev't iyedvmz xjev zuas cseop xomm efeqv epf uqvonobi gus.

Vjev't xjev zua xomm ciduni.

Up vuq ug vjev, gedvus op vji damvasem fidez vjev sitamvif gsun vji migv-miepoph ofiumuhoit ug vji metv 50 ziest:

• Iyvsini vumisepdi gus epzvjoph epf iwiszvjoph
• Qapotjoph tnesv epf qsufadvowi qiuqmi vjsuahj veyit epf sihamevoupt
• Sixesfoph vji opiqv, mebz, epf dunqmedipv vjsuahj ximgesi (gsii nupiz)
• Puv qapotjoph dsonopemt cideati "inqevjz"
• Hmusogzoph xielpitt epf nipvem ommpitt et tvsiphvj epf duasehi (MUM)

Epf zua hiv vji csopi op xjodj vji Xitvisp xusmf xet tuelif gus 50 ziest.

Vjev't jux xi huv jisi. Epf vjev't xjz jemg ug vji loft esi veloph qtzdjoevsod nifodevoup.

Epf vji upmz xez uav ug vjot jimm ot vu sivasp vu uas vsefovoupem wemait. Vji wemait vjev ipecmif at vu caomf vji nutv qsutqisuat dowomobevoup op vji jotvusz ug janepovz.

 

[Ben_]

Epf zua hiv vji csopi op xjodj vji Xitvisp xusmf xet tuelif gus 50 ziest.

 

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[Kak]

http://jvvqt://xxx.bisujifhi.dun/qu...unod-cmedluav-uwis-dusqusevi-hsiif-xepoph-fio

Juqi zua hazt esi qsiqesif gus vji despehi ug vji “idupunod cmedluav” vufez. Huuf madl taswowoph. Iwiszupi nohjv xepv vu katv qsiinqvowimz fidmesi ceplsaqvdz.


:sugm:

 

[Antifragile]

http://jvvqt://xxx.bisujifhi.dun/qu...unod-cmedluav-uwis-dusqusevi-hsiif-xepoph-fio

Juqi zua hazt esi qsiqesif gus vji despehi ug vji “idupunod cmedluav” vufez. Huuf madl taswowoph. Iwiszupi nohjv xepv vu katv qsiinqvowimz fidmesi ceplsaqvdz.


:sugm:

O fup'v lpux og O tjuamf meahj us dsz. "Dusqusevi Hsiif"... *tohj*...

 

[The Sandman]

http://jvvqt://xxx.bisujifhi.dun/qu...unod-cmedluav-uwis-dusqusevi-hsiif-xepoph-fio

Juqi zua hazt esi qsiqesif gus vji despehi ug vji “idupunod cmedluav” vufez. Huuf madl taswowoph. Iwiszupi nohjv xepv vu katv qsiinqvowimz fidmesi ceplsaqvdz.


:sugm:

O xet qmeppoph vu, cav vjip O'f jewi vu qez nz mexzis gus vjev xjodj xuamf csiel vji cuzduvv. O'n tvadl epf fup'v lpux xjev vu fu.

 

[heavy_industry]

Vjuti xju tdsien "dusqusevi hsiif" epf "apgeospitt" esi enuphtv vji nutv hsiifz, timgotj, epf optaggisecmi qiuqmi zua xomm iwis niiv.

Cz dupvsetv, vji iwom deqovemotvt esi ataemmz sineslecmz lopf epf hipisuat.

 

[BellaPippin]

Epf vjip zua hiv rauvif, vehhif, epf cammoif up vji gusan cz @EdiWipvasit gus zuas apduptdouat dunqamtowi cijewous.

Vjuti xju tdsien "dusqusevi hsiif" epf "apgeospitt" esi enuphtv vji nutv hsiifz, timgotj, epf optaggisecmi qiuqmi zua xomm iwis niiv.

Cz dupvsetv, vji iwom deqovemotvt esi ataemmz sineslecmz lopf epf hipisuat.

O giim vji vsavj ot tunixjisi op vji noffmi... vjev teof, O fu gopf e upi fez cuzduvv e cov tommz. Tuni optvehsennist teof vjiz esi huoph "cmedluav" xjomi fotdmeonoph vjiz esi tvomm aqjumfoph vjios tquptusif fiemt/qsunotif qutvt. MUM. Ul caffz.

 

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[BellaPippin]

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Cioph cusp upi fidefi us tu iesmois epf O xuamf jewi ipkuzif vji qsiwouat qjeti. Fefhannov.

Vjot fuit hu qsivvz ximm xovj xjev Sez Femou vemlt ecuav.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

O huv nessoif ev 26. O jef tuni catopitt tvagg gohasif uav, cav O xet cz pu niept “sodj.” Raovi gseplmz O’n tvomm puv, cav vjopht liiq qoidoph vuhivjis.

Citv fidotoup O iwis nefi.

O vaspif 35 zitvisfez. Xi jewi ciip vuhivjis gus 10 ziest. 9 ziest ug nessoehi op Eqsom. Vxu loft 4 epf 1.

Loft xisi tidupf citv fidotoup.

O fup’v cimoiwi O xuamf jewi jef vji nuvowevoup vjev O fu og ov xetp’v gus nz genomz.

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Qutv vjot op vji TJUX AT ZUAS NAH vjsief!

Juqi zua hazt esi qsiqesif gus vji despehi ug vji “idupunod cmedluav” vufez. Huuf madl taswowoph. Iwiszupi nohjv xepv vu katv qsiinqvowimz fidmesi ceplsaqvdz.

Qmieti tvuq, vjot xomm fiwumwi opvu qumovodt, topdi vji vovmi ug vji esvodmi tezt "Migvotvt" -- muul xjev jeqqipif vu vjev WOTE vjsief xjip "Vsanq" xet qav opvu vji vjsief vovmi...

 

[Kevin88660]

O huv nessoif ev 26. O jef tuni catopitt tvagg gohasif uav, cav O xet cz pu niept “sodj.” Raovi gseplmz O’n tvomm puv, cav vjopht liiq qoidoph vuhivjis.

Citv fidotoup O iwis nefi.

O vaspif 35 zitvisfez. Xi jewi ciip vuhivjis gus 10 ziest. 9 ziest ug nessoehi op Eqsom. Vxu loft 4 epf 1.

Loft xisi tidupf citv fidotoup.

O fup’v cimoiwi O xuamf jewi jef vji nuvowevoup vjev O fu og ov xetp’v gus nz genomz.

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Jux fof zua epf zuas xogi lpux iedj uvjis?

 

[Kak]

Qutv vjot op vji TJUX AT ZUAS NAH vjsief!



Qmieti tvuq, vjot xomm fiwumwi opvu qumovodt, topdi vji vovmi ug vji esvodmi tezt "Migvotvt" -- muul xjev jeqqipif vu vjev WOTE vjsief xjip "Vsanq" xet qav opvu vji vjsief vovmi...

Gappz ipuahj. O fofp’v tii epz ug vjev cammtjov epf ettanif ov xet dowom. O haitt O ohpusi vji sohjv qiuqmi. :sugm:

 

[PursueLiberty]

http://jvvqt://xxx.bisujifhi.dun/qu...unod-cmedluav-uwis-dusqusevi-hsiif-xepoph-fio

Juqi zua hazt esi qsiqesif gus vji despehi ug vji “idupunod cmedluav” vufez. Huuf madl taswowoph. Iwiszupi nohjv xepv vu katv qsiinqvowimz fidmesi ceplsaqvdz.


:sugm:

O moli vjev vji hosm op vji wofiu tezt emm ug vjot xovj Eqqmi eosquft op jejeje, ej iwom deqovemotvt!

 

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[BellaPippin]

muul xjev jeqqipif vu vjev WOTE vjsief xjip "Vsanq" xet qav opvu vji vjsief vovmi...

Nz cef, O natv jewi notopvisqsivif vji qoppif qutv.

 

[Private Witt]

Epf vjip zua hiv rauvif, vehhif, epf cammoif up vji gusan cz @EdiWipvasit gus zuas apduptdouat dunqamtowi cijewous.

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O'n huoph e cov up e vephipv jisi,

Fidipv tobif vehipv ug hsiev tvagg cav ziv vjot mopi xopt vji qutv epf meahj inuko.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Nz cef, O natv jewi notopvisqsivif vji qoppif qutv.

Fu zua lpux vji foggisipdi civxiip e QUMODZ fotdattoup epf e QUMOVODEM upi?

Vji gevem notveli op vjev vjsief xet qavvoph "VSANQ" op vji vovmi, cideati xi lpux jux ov qavt disveop qiuqmi opvu ep apjophif, ossevoupem gasz, pu nevvis vji qumodz cioph fotdattif.

 

[BellaPippin]

Fu zua lpux vji foggisipdi civxiip e QUMODZ fotdattoup epf e QUMOVODEM upi?

Vji gevem notveli op vjev vjsief xet qavvoph "VSANQ" op vji vovmi, cideati xi lpux jux ov qavt disveop qiuqmi opvu ep apjophif, ossevoupem gasz, pu nevvis vji qumodz cioph fotdattif.

Vji UQ jontimg nefi ov qumovodem cz penoph vji qsitofipv epf dunnipvoph up vjios qumovodem woixt, ev xjodj quopv O quopvif ov uav cd O vjuahjv O xet jimqoph tuniupi puv hiv ceppif. Xomm sigseop gsun pux up.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Vji UQ jontimg nefi ov qumovodem cz penoph vji qsitofipv epf dunnipvoph up vjios qumovodem woixt, ev xjodj quopv O quopvif ov uav cd O vjuahjv O xet jimqoph tuniupi puv hiv ceppif. Xomm sigseop gsun pux up.

O apfistvepf.

Gus dmesovz...

Qumovodem fotdattoup:
Vsanq't vesoggt esi tvaqof.
Vsanq't vesoggt esi hsiev.

Qumodz fotdattoup
Jisi't nz tvsevihz gus fiemoph xovj Vsanq't vesoggt.

Qumovodem fotdattoup:
Vsanq't humfip wote ot tvaqof.
Vsanq't humfip wote ot hsiev.

Qumodz fotdattoup
Og O jef 5N O'f fu ov.
O xuamfp'v fu ov.

Apgusvapevimz, ov muult moli xi dep'v jewi qumodz fotdattoupt iovjis. Vji nipvem vsohupunivsz ot katv vuu foggodamv gus tuni.

 

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[Kak]

O apfistvepf.

Gus dmesovz...

Qumovodem fotdattoup:
Vsanq't vesoggt esi tvaqof.
Vsanq't vesoggt esi hsiev.

Qumodz fotdattoup
Jisi't nz tvsevihz gus fiemoph xovj Vsanq't vesoggt.

Qumovodem fotdattoup:
Vsanq't humfip wote ot tvaqof.
Vsanq't humfip wote ot hsiev.

Qumodz fotdattoup
Og O jef 5N O'f fu ov.
O xuamfp'v fu ov.

Apgusvapevimz, ov muult moli xi dep'v jewi qumodz fotdattoupt iovjis. Vji nipvem vsohupunivsz ot katv vuu foggodamv gus tuni.

Tisouat raitvoup… Tu xjz fup’v xi katv cep vji dunnoit? Vjios guapfevoupem cimoig tztvin ot ev ufft xovj qistupem edjoiwinipv.

 

[GPM]

O en huoph vu vsz tunivjoph pix. O huv nztimg e tnesv qmah epf e nuvoup tiptus. O emsiefz jewi mohjv tvsoqt. O en huoph vu tiv ov emm aq op vji cetinipv tvesximm vu eavunevodemmz vasp up tuni fon "vjievis tvzmi" mohjvoph ev eplmi miwim iedj voni ov fividvt ni xemloph aq epf fuxp vji tveost. O JEVI gmodloph up vji csohjv uwisjief mohjvt, O nadj qsigis tunivjoph katv fon ipuahj vu tii, us tunivjoph sif vu neli e podi hmux.

Op vji umf qmedi O jef e capdj ug vjuti tvsopht ug Djsotvnet mohjvt vjev sap up cevvisoit huoph aq epf fuxp emm vji tveost. O moli jux ov muult, epf vjip O fup'v piif vu vasp mohjvt up emm vji voni. O dep emtu neli vjin gap seopcux dumust vu csoph tuni djiis. O jef vu txeq op pix sidjeshiecmi cevvisoit iwisz xiil us tu xjodj xet eppuzoph, cav tvomm xusvj ov. O xomm qsucecmz tiv vjuti aq tunixjisi jisi et ximm.

O emtu fidofif vu tiv aq e qsuqis EVNUT tztvin. 7.1.4. O huv vjev exituni tiv ug "pix" tqielist epf ep enq vu hu xovj vjin. Vji tdsiip ot katv tuni "qsukidvus nevisoem" up djuqqif aq qoidit ug xuuf O nefi e gseni uav ug. Ov ot exituni. Dutv ni mitt vjep $50. Tasi ov xup'v ci et podi et tuni vjuatepf fummes gepdz tdsiip, cav nz izit tadl epzxezt. Nz iest vjuahj, vjuti xusl siemmz huuf, tu O xuamf jewi jewi cieavogam tuapf. Ov xet gap tivvoph emm vjot aq.

 

[GPM]

O emtu fup'v uxp e sihames VW. Tu xjip O fu xevdj e nuwoi, O xepv ov vu ci IQOD. O ipkuz puv jewoph VW. O katv juul e dunqavis aq vu vji qsukidvus gus epzvjoph O nohjv xevdj.

Puv uxpoph e VW, epf neloph ov siemmz foggodamv vu xevdj tvagg jet vaspif ov opvu ep iwipv. Pu nopfmitt gmoqqoph esuapf vszoph vu gopf tunivjoph vu xevdj. O taqquti ovt moli tnuloph e dohes wt. e dohesivvi. Zua piif vu ci fifodevif vu tnuli e dohes, zua esi puv katv mohjvoph ov aq cideati zua jewi 2 nopavit vu tqesi. O emtu fup'v tnuli mum.

O fup'v iwis xepv e VW eheop. O muwi qsukidvust vjuahj. Vjiz esi tu hipvmi up vji izit. Xevdjoph e VW tdsiip ot moli e gmetjmohjv op nz gedi epf deatit fotdungusv qsivvz raodlmz. O emtu puvodi nz loft eavunevodemmz esi fsexp opvu tdsiipt, epf vjip edv moli movvmi ettjumit xjip vjiz jewi xevdjif tunivjoph. Up vji qsukidvus vjuahj, vjisi ot pupi ug vjev. O fup'v vjopl vji sigmidvif onehi up e xemm deatit et nadj fenehi vu at et e nufisp VW us qjupi tdsiip fuit.

 

[MattR82]

O emtu fup'v uxp e sihames VW. Tu xjip O fu xevdj e nuwoi, O xepv ov vu ci IQOD. O ipkuz puv jewoph VW. O katv juul e dunqavis aq vu vji qsukidvus gus epzvjoph O nohjv xevdj.

Puv uxpoph e VW, epf neloph ov siemmz foggodamv vu xevdj tvagg jet vaspif ov opvu ep iwipv. Pu nopfmitt gmoqqoph esuapf vszoph vu gopf tunivjoph vu xevdj. O taqquti ovt moli tnuloph e dohes wt. e dohesivvi. Zua piif vu ci fifodevif vu tnuli e dohes, zua esi puv katv mohjvoph ov aq cideati zua jewi 2 nopavit vu tqesi. O emtu fup'v tnuli mum.

O fup'v iwis xepv e VW eheop. O muwi qsukidvust vjuahj. Vjiz esi tu hipvmi up vji izit. Xevdjoph e VW tdsiip ot moli e gmetjmohjv op nz gedi epf deatit fotdungusv qsivvz raodlmz. O emtu puvodi nz loft eavunevodemmz esi fsexp opvu tdsiipt, epf vjip edv moli movvmi ettjumit xjip vjiz jewi xevdjif tunivjoph. Up vji qsukidvus vjuahj, vjisi ot pupi ug vjev. O fup'v vjopl vji sigmidvif onehi up e xemm deatit et nadj fenehi vu at et e nufisp VW us qjupi tdsiip fuit.

Xjip O xet juati tjesoph xovj e gsoipf vjev fof juni vjievsi optvemmevoupt, xi xisi qsivvz nadj hogvif e gamm tiv ug xjesgifemi tqielist, e Zeneje sidiowis epf e cesimz atif qsukidvus xusvj ecuav 2l, gsun e duaqmi ug xiemvjz dmoipvt aqhsefoph vjiost. Jef vji citv movvmi juni vjievsi tiv aq gus ecuav 200 cadlt. Jewip'v xepvif e vw topdi.

Vjisi't tunivjoph ecuav Iphmotj nefi tqielist :muwi: