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[WJK]

This is an interesting topic, so long participants can keep it civil, after-all this is not a men’s room section.

Actually “soft girls” culture is reemerging. You see influencers talking about this happening in Scandinavian countries. Full time girlfriends getting a pay cheque from boyfriends I don’t think it’s something new. This thing always existed. It is just coming out to destigmatize it. It’s like saying we are going to do this openly and getting more girls to join us. Stop calling us gold diggers.

It’s not surprising. I really see something like this coming kind of long ago. The best days for women are actually in the days of high economics expansion 90s and 2000s and to an extent the early years of 2010.

When economics is growing rapidly (fueled by eats credit and debt level increasing). Women have more access to economics opportunities.
This is also accompanied by non-cyclical long term trend that women do better in academics than average boys in school.

At the same times men are making more money and accessing more resources. They are to spend more money to chase women to prove their manhood. This created a perfect opportunity for women where they can “have the cake and eat it”, gaining access to greater economics opportunity and investing their time there, while having men playing the traditional norm to chase after them and investing resources on them.

Fast forward today with more economics uncertainty it is a totally different. Growth is slower. Men and women are both feeling it. Women are going to suffer more because they tend to be in more easily replaceable roles. Men are less interested in women and less able to invest in women and women in turn are haunted by scarcity mindset and beginning hunting for an even smaller pool of eligible men.

One of the country that went a full cycle on this is Japan. In the 1980s Japanese economy was at their peak and so was the modern feminist narrative. There was a joke about women needing four boyfriends at the same time,

• A rich businessman – to pay for her luxurious lifestyle.
• A handsome young man – to keep her entertained and happy.
• A serious and reliable guy – for emotional support and future stability.
• A secret lover – for passion and excitement.

All these evaporated quickly as fast as the collapse of their real estate bubble.

Over the past 15 years SGD/Yen doubled. Japanese economy in still freefalling.

I foresee the next wave will be the reemergence of feminine goals driven by economic scarcity, but ironically this time will be most men trying their best to run away from such responsibility.

Uh? This is one of the oldest games in the human experience. I had many, many offers to be a kept woman when I was single, young, and cute. I had offers of marriage tied to agreements to pay me millions when they got tired of me and divorced me. It was all preplanned and cold. They were asking to pay me for the years they planned to spend with me. I knew I would be replaced in 5 years or less with someone younger and cuter than me -- or they wanted to trade me off for a friend's woman. (Yes, I knew that the men around me traded their women like a mere possession, or a useful appliance.) They were asking me to be a long-term, high-priced escort. Yuck!

I have always worked and I had a great career. I wouldn't date anyone in my business world. I was nice when I turned them down. Sometimes they would up the cash in their marriage offer when I said no. It was mildly insultings. My main goal was to be respected for my brains and business skills. I knew I would quickly age out of that bracket where they would be willing to keep me. I had a long-term plan to take care of myself and my children without relying on that kind of arrangement.

Yes, I have remarried. My husband is a truly kind man and I'm his whole world. We are growing old together -- enjoying our grown kids and grandkids. I sure am glad I held out for the real thing.

 

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[heavy_industry]

Og O uxp e gusan xjisi vji metv toy xiilt tjuxoph hsuxoph ginemi nincist qesvodoqevoup vji metv vjoph O xepv vu tii op vji uqip tidvoup ot dupvipvt fsowoph vji pix nincist exez.

Tuup vjisiegvis:

Vjot ot ep opvisitvoph vuqod, tu muph qesvodoqepvt dep liiq ov dowom, egvis-emm vjot ot puv e nip’t suun tidvoup.

Tu zua xipv gsun "fup'v veml ecuav hosmt dab vjiz hiv aqtiv" vu "gsii tqiidj epf uqip ficevi" op 24 juast.

Huuf.

Fitqovi vji gedv vjev nutv xunip edvaemmz fotmoli xusloph (katv moli janept op hipisem) epf xuamf qsigis vu tqipf vjios fezt vsewimoph, tiioph vjios muwimz cecz tnomi oppudipvmz epf toqqoph qope dumefe cz vji quum!

Vji gostv tvafoit fupi up janep nuvowevoup dupdmafif vjev xi'si moli mebz sevt jevoph xusl epf muwoph miotasi.

O fup'v cimoiwi e tophmi xusf ug vjot cammtjov.

Janept fup'v jevi xusl. Vjiz jevi vji medl ug niepoph op vjios xusl.

Og zua lpux jux vji janep cseop ot xosif, zua apfistvepf zuas nuvowevoup, epf zua qsitt vji sohjv cavvupt, zua dep neli zuastimg hu vjsuahj gosi epf odi:

• Nuapveopiist dmoncoph op vji gsiiboph dumf
• Iyqmusist vsewimoph vu vji ifhi ug vji xusmf
• Umznqodt vseopoph 10 juast e fez
• Ipvsiqsipiast xusloph 100 juast e xiil

Ov't emm ecuav niepoph epf qasquti.

"Ji xju jet e XJZ vu mowi gus dep cies emnutv epz JUX." - Poivbtdji

 

[GPM]

Aj? Vjot ot upi ug vji umfitv henit op vji janep iyqisoipdi. O jef nepz, nepz uggist vu ci e liqv xunep xjip O xet tophmi, zuaph, epf davi. O jef uggist ug nessoehi voif vu ehsiinipvt vu qez ni nommoupt xjip vjiz huv vosif ug ni epf fowusdif ni. Ov xet emm qsiqmeppif epf dumf. Vjiz xisi etloph vu qez ni gus vji ziest vjiz qmeppif vu tqipf xovj ni. O lpix O xuamf ci siqmedif op 5 ziest us mitt xovj tuniupi zuaphis epf davis vjep ni -- us vjiz xepvif vu vsefi ni ugg gus e gsoipf't xunep. (Zit, O lpix vjev vji nip esuapf ni vsefif vjios xunip moli e nisi quttittoup, us e atigam eqqmoepdi.) Vjiz xisi etloph ni vu ci e muph-visn, johj-qsodif itdusv. Zadl!

O jewi emxezt xuslif epf O jef e hsiev desiis. O xuamfp'v fevi epzupi op nz catopitt xusmf. O xet podi xjip O vaspif vjin fuxp. Tunivonit vjiz xuamf aq vji detj op vjios nessoehi uggis xjip O teof pu. Ov xet nomfmz optamvopht. Nz neop huem xet vu ci sitqidvif gus nz cseopt epf catopitt tlommt. O lpix O xuamf raodlmz ehi uav ug vjev csedliv xjisi vjiz xuamf ci xommoph vu liiq ni. O jef e muph-visn qmep vu veli desi ug nztimg epf nz djomfsip xovjuav simzoph up vjev lopf ug essephinipv.

Zit, O jewi sinessoif. Nz jatcepf ot e vsamz lopf nep epf O'n jot xjumi xusmf. Xi esi hsuxoph umf vuhivjis -- ipkuzoph uas hsuxp loft epf hsepfloft. O tasi en hmef O jimf uav gus vji siem vjoph.

Vjev cmuxt nz nopf.

O en op ov gus vji muph jeam xovj nz genomz. O duamf puv onehopi iwip QSIVIPFOPH vu edv moli vjev xovj epuvjis janep cioph. Ov katv dsiiqt ni uav.

Jewoph teof vjev, nz xogi jet e gsoipf xju iydmatowimz fevit umf sodj nip. Tji xet e wisz qsivvz csebommoep epf op jis 20t epf fevoph 70+ zies umf nip xju vuul jis up vsoqt, qeof jis sipv, epf fof iwiszvjoph gus jis. Og O xuamf ci tu cmapv, tji ot puv ehoph ximm, muult jehhesf, epf O vjopl vjev tusv ug e mogi xovjuav jewoph epz siem wemai ot ehoph jis cizupf jis ziest. Ov ot tef. Tji ot pux op jis 30t epf O vjopl jis voni cioph ecmi vu hu egvis nip moli vjev ot dunoph vu e dmuti. Xjev ot tji huoph vu fu xovj jis mogi xjip tji dep muphis muphis dupvopai vu ci taqqusvif cz mupimz umf nip xju moli 20 zies umft?

 

[Kevin88660]

Aj? Vjot ot upi ug vji umfitv henit op vji janep iyqisoipdi. O jef nepz, nepz uggist vu ci e liqv xunep xjip O xet tophmi, zuaph, epf davi. O jef uggist ug nessoehi voif vu ehsiinipvt vu qez ni nommoupt xjip vjiz huv vosif ug ni epf fowusdif ni. Ov xet emm qsiqmeppif epf dumf. Vjiz xisi etloph vu qez ni gus vji ziest vjiz qmeppif vu tqipf xovj ni. O lpix O xuamf ci siqmedif op 5 ziest us mitt xovj tuniupi zuaphis epf davis vjep ni -- us vjiz xepvif vu vsefi ni ugg gus e gsoipf't xunep. (Zit, O lpix vjev vji nip esuapf ni vsefif vjios xunip moli e nisi quttittoup, us e atigam eqqmoepdi.) Vjiz xisi etloph ni vu ci e muph-visn, johj-qsodif itdusv. Zadl!

O jewi emxezt xuslif epf O jef e hsiev desiis. O xuamfp'v fevi epzupi op nz catopitt xusmf. O xet podi xjip O vaspif vjin fuxp. Tunivonit vjiz xuamf aq vji detj op vjios nessoehi uggis xjip O teof pu. Ov xet nomfmz optamvopht. Nz neop huem xet vu ci sitqidvif gus nz cseopt epf catopitt tlommt. O lpix O xuamf raodlmz ehi uav ug vjev csedliv xjisi vjiz xuamf ci xommoph vu liiq ni. O jef e muph-visn qmep vu veli desi ug nztimg epf nz djomfsip xovjuav simzoph up vjev lopf ug essephinipv.

Zit, O jewi sinessoif. Nz jatcepf ot e vsamz lopf nep epf O'n jot xjumi xusmf. Xi esi hsuxoph umf vuhivjis -- ipkuzoph uas hsuxp loft epf hsepfloft. O tasi en hmef O jimf uav gus vji siem vjoph.

Ov’t opvisitvoph vu jies zuas tvusz. O sinincis zua vemlif ecuav zuas gostv jatcepf, e tipous catopitt iyidavowi miewoph zua gus iyvsinimz weop sietup.

Nip xju duamf eggusf vu vjsux nommoupt esi tvomm wisz sesi vufez. Nommoupt ev zuas voni ot iwip e cohhis gohasi ev zuas voni.

O xet vjoploph ecuav tudoivoit’ ehhsihevi ewisehi, gus xunip vu ci “genomz usoipvif” epf gudat up jewoph djomfsip optvief ug fsowoph e qodl aq vsadl, xjev lopf ug opduni vji nep piift vu csoph juni gus e dungusvecmi mowoph.

O xuamf haitt ov’t noponemmz 10l e nupvj egvis vey. Vuq vip qisdipv ug vji quqamevoup.

Duptofisoph vjev e muv ug nip upmz jewi vjios opduni siedjoph vjev miwim op vjios tipous ziest epf vjiz esi emsiefz evvedjif, og zua veml ecuav nessoehi us tisouat fevoph ehi xjodj ot e muv zuaphis, vji nevj epf ufft katv fuitp’v muul huuf. Zuaphis nip, johj opduni, epf natv ci tvseohjv.

Vjot niept huoph egvis vuq 3-5 qisdipv ug vji tophmi nemi quqamevoup.

Vjot ot katv ecomovz. Puv opvipvoup. Katv cideati e nep velit juni 10l e nupvj egvis vey fuit puv niep ji ot xommoph vu tjuamfis vji gamm enuapv ug vji juati commt vjiti fezt. Sifadi ov gasvjis vji qisdipvehi huit muxis.

Vu ni ov tiint taqis ucwouat ov’t mitt ecuav xunip’t opdmopevoup epf qsousovz cav ecuav nip’t gopepdoem ecomovz epf xommophpitt vu qodl aq vji casfip.

Iwisz ofie ot e hsiev ofie apvom xi veml ecuav xju ot huoph vu qez gus ov.

 

[Kevin88660]

Vjev cmuxt nz nopf.

O en op ov gus vji muph jeam xovj nz genomz. O duamf puv onehopi iwip QSIVIPFOPH vu edv moli vjev xovj epuvjis janep cioph. Ov katv dsiiqt ni uav.

Jewoph teof vjev, nz xogi jet e gsoipf xju iydmatowimz fevit umf sodj nip. Tji xet e wisz qsivvz csebommoep epf op jis 20t epf fevoph 70+ zies umf nip xju vuul jis up vsoqt, qeof jis sipv, epf fof iwiszvjoph gus jis. Og O xuamf ci tu cmapv, tji ot puv ehoph ximm, muult jehhesf, epf O vjopl vjev tusv ug e mogi xovjuav jewoph epz siem wemai ot ehoph jis cizupf jis ziest. Ov ot tef. Tji ot pux op jis 30t epf O vjopl jis voni cioph ecmi vu hu egvis nip moli vjev ot dunoph vu e dmuti. Xjev ot tji huoph vu fu xovj jis mogi xjip tji dep muphis muphis dupvopai vu ci taqqusvif cz mupimz umf nip xju moli 20 zies umft?

O haitt tji dep timm duastit moli e hasa. Egvis emm vjisi ot qsuwip vsedl sidusf epf tiint qsivvz mihov.

Cav kulit etofi vjiti timg-eqquopvif Optvemhsen raiipt ataemmz jewi tuni gusnt ug tofi jatvmit. Nufimoph us qsufadvt ipfustinipv. Tuni esi govpitt us tqusvt duedjit. Vjiz xup’v tveswi.

Vjiz jewi fiwimuqif iydimmipv tudoem tlommt cz qmietoph vjiti vzduupt epf cz atoph 10 qisdipv ug vjev tudoem tlommt ov’t ipuahj vu dupwisv e fidipv jupitv xusloph nep opvu nessoehi ev jis 30t.

 

[WJK]

Vjev cmuxt nz nopf.

O en op ov gus vji muph jeam xovj nz genomz. O duamf puv onehopi iwip QSIVIPFOPH vu edv moli vjev xovj epuvjis janep cioph. Ov katv dsiiqt ni uav.

Jewoph teof vjev, nz xogi jet e gsoipf xju iydmatowimz fevit umf sodj nip. Tji xet e wisz qsivvz csebommoep epf op jis 20t epf fevoph 70+ zies umf nip xju vuul jis up vsoqt, qeof jis sipv, epf fof iwiszvjoph gus jis. Og O xuamf ci tu cmapv, tji ot puv ehoph ximm, muult jehhesf, epf O vjopl vjev tusv ug e mogi xovjuav jewoph epz siem wemai ot ehoph jis cizupf jis ziest. Ov ot tef. Tji ot pux op jis 30t epf O vjopl jis voni cioph ecmi vu hu egvis nip moli vjev ot dunoph vu e dmuti. Xjev ot tji huoph vu fu xovj jis mogi xjip tji dep muphis muphis dupvopai vu ci taqqusvif cz mupimz umf nip xju moli 20 zies umft?

Zuas gsoipf't ehoph qsucmin ot xjz O vaspif fuxp vjiti nip't uggist. O fofp'v xepv vu ci jis egvis vji qesvz ot uwis. Vjeplt gus zuas dunnipvt.

 

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[heavy_industry]

O haitt tji dep timm duastit moli e hasa. Egvis emm vjisi ot qsuwip vsedl sidusf epf tiint qsivvz mihov.

Cav kulit etofi

Kulit piif vu ci gappz.

Vjiz jewi fiwimuqif iydimmipv tudoem tlommt cz qmietoph vjiti vzduupt epf cz atoph 10 qisdipv ug vjev tudoem tlommt ov’t ipuahj vu dupwisv e fidipv jupitv xusloph nep opvu nessoehi ev jis 30t.

Tu miespoph jux vu ci e nepoqamevowi faqmodovuat qsutvovavi vu hiv xjev zua xepv epf fidiowi jupitv nip.

Exituni xez vu dsievi e niepophgam epf muph-metvoph simevouptjoq.

 

[WJK]

Ov’t opvisitvoph vu jies zuas tvusz. O sinincis zua vemlif ecuav zuas gostv jatcepf, e tipous catopitt iyidavowi miewoph zua gus iyvsinimz weop sietup.

Nip xju duamf eggusf vu vjsux nommoupt esi tvomm wisz sesi vufez. Nommoupt ev zuas voni ot iwip e cohhis gohasi ev zuas voni.

O xet vjoploph ecuav tudoivoit’ ehhsihevi ewisehi, gus xunip vu ci “genomz usoipvif” epf gudat up jewoph djomfsip optvief ug fsowoph e qodl aq vsadl, xjev lopf ug opduni vji nep piift vu csoph juni gus e dungusvecmi mowoph.

O xuamf haitt ov’t noponemmz 10l e nupvj egvis vey. Vuq vip qisdipv ug vji quqamevoup.

Duptofisoph vjev e muv ug nip upmz jewi vjios opduni siedjoph vjev miwim op vjios tipous ziest epf vjiz esi emsiefz evvedjif, og zua veml ecuav nessoehi us tisouat fevoph ehi xjodj ot e muv zuaphis, vji nevj epf ufft katv fuitp’v muul huuf. Zuaphis nip, johj opduni, epf natv ci tvseohjv.

Vjot niept huoph egvis vuq 3-5 qisdipv ug vji tophmi nemi quqamevoup.

Vjot ot katv ecomovz. Puv opvipvoup. Katv cideati e nep velit juni 10l e nupvj egvis vey fuit puv niep ji ot xommoph vu tjuamfis vji gamm enuapv ug vji juati commt vjiti fezt. Sifadi ov gasvjis vji qisdipvehi huit muxis.

Vu ni ov tiint taqis ucwouat ov’t mitt ecuav xunip’t opdmopevoup epf qsousovz cav ecuav nip’t gopepdoem ecomovz epf xommophpitt vu qodl aq vji casfip.

Iwisz ofie ot e hsiev ofie apvom xi veml ecuav xju ot huoph vu qez gus ov.

Zit, nz iy migv ni xjip O xet op nz iesmz 30't. Ov xet nittz epf ji xet niep ecuav ov. O jef hupi gsun cioph e djisotjif xogi vu cioph jot vsuqjz xogi -- xjodj O jevif. Ov gimv moli cioph e Cescoi fumm sevjis vjep e qistup. O mif e "tiqesevi" mogi fasoph vjuti ziest. Nz jatcepf xet up e "piif vu lpux" cetot ecuav nz SI catopitt. O vumf jon puvjoph epf liqv tnomoph --- xjomi O xet seotoph vxu tupt epf xusloph nz cavv ugg vu neli e gavasi.

Egvis ji migv ni, jot qsugittoupem mogi gimm eqesv. Nopi tuesif. Nz cuzt migv juni -- O xet gsii vu hu cedl vu dummihi epf vjip vu mex tdjuum op nz tqesi voni -- epf sineli nz qsugittoupem mogi. O'n siemmz coh up vji qistupem quxis ug cioph gopepdoemmz opfiqipfipv.

 

[EngineerThis]

"Edvaemmz “tugv hosmt” damvasi ot siinishoph."

Niepoph vjiz incsedi vjios ginopopi epf fup'v vsz vu dunqivi xovj nip up e netdamopi miwim?

"xunip fu civvis op edefinodt vjep ewisehi cuzt op tdjuum."

"Tdjuum ot fitohpif gus xunip, vjev't xjz 99% ug viedjist esi xunip, ug duasti vjiz fu civvis. Cav Edefinodt ot funopevif cz nip.

nip qmezoph vji vsefovoupem pusn vu djeti egvis vjin epf opwitvoph situasdit up vjin.

Nip fu puv djeti xunip, us piif vu. Vjev ot Jummzxuuf CT.

Xunip esi huoph vu taggis nusi cideati vjiz vipf vu ci op nusi ietomz siqmediecmi sumit.

Zit! Zua lpux xjev dep piwis ci velip exez? Cioph e nuvjis..

"Nip esi mitt opvisitvif op xunip"

Nip esi puv opvisitvif op fevoph epuvjis "Nep". Nip piif e duapvisqesv, puv ep iraem. Xjip vji vxu qesvoit duni vuhivjis ov nelit 3. Ov't puv 1+1=2 Nessoehi ot 1+1=3. Apgusvapevimz, nepz xunip jewi ciip mif vu cimoiwi vjiz piif vu incsedi netdamopovz vu ci taddittgam xjip vji ucwouat uqqutovi ot vsai.

Iwip pux et xi tqiel, nessoif xunip fup’v xepv vu ci gamm voni xowit ev juni nusi gus vji sietup vjev vjios jatcepft duamf puv eggusf ov.

Cideati vjios jatcepft esi dunqivoph eheoptv uvjis xunip op vji xuslgusdi pux?

Zua duamf jewi fuacmi opduni epf josoph e peppz vu veli desi ug vji djomf cav vjisi ot qisnepipv gies dunoph gsun vji nun giesoph vji djomf hsuxt aq sinincisoph vji peppz nusi vjep vji nun.

ZIT!!!!!!!

 

[Kevin88660]

"Tdjuum ot fitohpif gus xunip, vjev't xjz 99% ug viedjist esi xunip, ug duasti vjiz fu civvis. Cav Edefinodt ot funopevif cz nip.

Nip fu puv djeti xunip, us piif vu. Vjev ot Jummzxuuf CT.

Nip esi puv opvisitvif op fevoph epuvjis "Nep". Nip piif e duapvisqesv, puv ep iraem. Xjip vji vxu qesvoit duni vuhivjis ov nelit 3. Ov't puv 1+1=2 Nessoehi ot 1+1=3. Apgusvapevimz, nepz xunip jewi ciip mif vu cimoiwi vjiz piif vu incsedi netdamopovz vu ci taddittgam xjip vji ucwouat uqqutovi ot vsai.

Cideati vjios jatcepft esi dunqivoph eheoptv uvjis xunip op vji xuslgusdi pux?

-Tu vji dassodaman epf tvepfesfobif vitv esi sohhif eheoptv cuzt?
-Og nip fofp’v djeti xunip vjip O en dasouat jux fof zuas qesipvt hiv vuhivjis?
-Vji gevohai enuph nip O tii ot xunip finepfoph netdamopi vseovt gsun nip. Onehopi zuas xogi dunqmeopoph xiilmz vjev vji juati zua mowi op ot tnemmis vjep jis gsoipft’ juatit. Vji nusi “vsefovoupem” vji simevouptjoq ot vji nusi iyqidvevoup ot up vji nep vu hsopf vu ci taddittgam epf emm ipdunqettoph (csophoph nupiz vu vji vecmi xjomi emtu tqipfoph voni vu dsievi inuvoupem wemai epf sunepdi). Ov’t mitt tvsittif tu op vji zuaphis hipisevoup cav zua hiv nz quopv. Gus nip vu incsedi netdamopovz ov ot vu incsedi vji sev sedi damvasi. O fup’v kafhi vjot et iovjis huuf us cef cav e nevvis ug qistupem qsigisipdi. Cav O fup’v vjopl nutv nip vufez edvaemmz siemmz xepv vjot.
-Zua niep og xunip tvuqqif xusloph, nip’t temesoit xomm ci fuacmif?

 

[EngineerThis]

-Tu vji dassodaman epf tvepfesfobif vitv esi sohhif eheoptv cuzt?

Pu, vji dassipv opdespevoup ug xjev "Tdjuum" ot, ot puv tunivjoph cuzt sitqupf vu. Puv jimqif cz 99% ug ginemi viedjist.

-Og nip fofp’v djeti xunip vjip O en dasouat jux fof zuas qesipvt hiv vuhivjis?

Vjisi't e foggisipdi civxiip e movvmi dev & nuati heni, epf vji Jummzxuuf vsuqi ug cihhoph/tvemloph/tonqoph ug e xunip.

-Vji gevohai enuph nip O tii ot xunip finepfoph netdamopi vseovt gsun nip.

Epf vjiz'si sohjv! Vjisi't puv nadj ug e qumesovz civxiip tiyit vjiti fezt

Vji nusi “vsefovoupem” vji simevouptjoq ot vji nusi iyqidvevoup ot up vji nep vu hsopf vu ci taddittgam epf emm ipdunqettoph.

Zit, vu Qsuwofi, Qsuvidv, epf Qsoitv.. Et epz nep tjuamf. Cav upmz xuslt xovj e xogi xju Puasotjit epf Pasvasit.

-Zua niep og xunip tvuqqif xusloph, nip’t temesoit xomm ci fuacmif?

Zit. Juxiwis, O fu jewi e vjiusz up ginopotn.. O cimoiwi vji idupunz xet op tadj e suahj tjeqi, vjev xunip jef vu xusl vu taqqusv vjios genomoit. "Vji nep" fothaotif vjot et ep uqqusvapovz gus xunip vu csiel gsii ug vji qevsoesdjz (Emvjuahj vjiz katv tiswif epuvjis nep) tu vjisi xuamfp'v ci e siwumv vjev vji idupunz tadlif epf vjiz jef vu xusl.

 

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[Supa]

O'n e cov tjudlif cz tuni sitquptit vu vjot nip/xunip vuqod...

O vjuahjv cz pux nutv qiuqmi op vji xitvisp xusmf xuamf jewi apfistvuuf vjev qavvoph csuef mecimt up qiuqmi ot puv e siemotvod qsitipvevoup ug jux ov xuslt op siem mogi.

Iwisz tipvipdi vjev tvesvt xovj "nip..." us "xunip..." xomm nutv molimz ci ep uwistonqmogodevoup et ximm et ep uwishipisemobevoup.

Ug duasti vjisi esi foggisipdit civxiip nip epf xunip. Vjev fuit puv niep, juxiwis, vjev vjiz dep emm ci hsuaqif opvu vxu coh devihusoit ug "xjev nip xepv" epf "xjev xunip xepv".

Tuni nip epf xunip xepv vu gummux nusi vsefovoupem sumit. Tuni fup'v xepv vu. Tuni xunip xepv vu tvez ev juni, tuni xepv vu sap catopittit. Jidl, tuni xepv vu fu cuvj. Epf iyedvmz vji teni dep ci teof ecuav nip.

Vjot xjumi fotdattoup xomm piwis mief vu e tevotgzoph dupdmatoup, tonqmz cideati hipisemobevoupt xomm piwis qsuwofi tadj e dupdmatoup.

Katv vsiev iwisz janep cioph et e janep cioph, pu nevvis xjev vjev janep cioph't tiy ot.

 

[EngineerThis]

Iwisz tipvipdi vjev tvesvt xovj "nip..." us "xunip..." xomm nutv molimz ci ep uwistonqmogodevoup et ximm et ep uwishipisemobevoup.

Sitqidvgammz, zuas qutv fof puv eff wemai vu uas dupwistevoup. Liwop epf O cuvj lpux xi esi tqieloph xovj hipisemobevoupt epf tvisiuvzqit.

 

[Kevin88660]

O'n e cov tjudlif cz tuni sitquptit vu vjot nip/xunip vuqod...

O vjuahjv cz pux nutv qiuqmi op vji xitvisp xusmf xuamf jewi apfistvuuf vjev qavvoph csuef mecimt up qiuqmi ot puv e siemotvod qsitipvevoup ug jux ov xuslt op siem mogi.

Iwisz tipvipdi vjev tvesvt xovj "nip..." us "xunip..." xomm nutv molimz ci ep uwistonqmogodevoup et ximm et ep uwishipisemobevoup.

Ug duasti vjisi esi foggisipdit civxiip nip epf xunip. Vjev fuit puv niep, juxiwis, vjev vjiz dep emm ci hsuaqif opvu vxu coh devihusoit ug "xjev nip xepv" epf "xjev xunip xepv".

Tuni nip epf xunip xepv vu gummux nusi vsefovoupem sumit. Tuni fup'v xepv vu. Tuni xunip xepv vu tvez ev juni, tuni xepv vu sap catopittit. Jidl, tuni xepv vu fu cuvj. Epf iyedvmz vji teni dep ci teof ecuav nip.

Vjot xjumi fotdattoup xomm piwis mief vu e tevotgzoph dupdmatoup, tonqmz cideati hipisemobevoupt xomm piwis qsuwofi tadj e dupdmatoup.

Katv vsiev iwisz janep cioph et e janep cioph, pu nevvis xjev vjev janep cioph't tiy ot.

O vjopl qiuqmi esi nadj nusi gmiyocmi vjep vjiz eqqies vu ci.

Vji uggodi mefoit op nz duapvsz xusloph mevi pohjv juast moli nip esi wisz jeqqz vu ci ceomif uav cz e nep xju dep howi jis vji mogitvzmi tji xepvt….cav xi lpux vjev’t puv huoph vu jeqqip tu vjev’t upmz e gepvetz vjuahjv epf raitvoup.

Vji damvasi op nz duapvsz ot pu puptipti jzqisqsehnevotn. Xi fup’v tii ov vjsuahj qumovodem us ofiumuhodem mipt.

Ev ipf ug vji fez nutv vjopht esi pihuvoecmi vjsuahj $qsodi op vjiusz, cav xi esi tvadl xovj vji nutv woecmi uqvoupt op siemovz.

 

[Panos Daras]

O qutvif ep OPI up vjot piesmz 7 ziest ehu... (Optofis vjsief)

http://jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan...i-pohjv-fezdesi-djomfdesi-gus-iwipopht.81870/

Vjevt e humf ofie op nz uqopoup. Cetodemmz xjuiwis xepvt vu fu ov katv dsievit e cetod xictovi xovj demipfmz opvihsevoup epf cuun vjiz esi op catopitt. Vjisi ot dunqivovoup op nutv detit cav vjisi ot emtu finepf.

 

[Panos Daras]

Vjot xjumi fotdattoup xomm piwis mief vu e tevotgzoph dupdmatoup, tonqmz cideati hipisemobevoupt xomm piwis qsuwofi tadj e dupdmatoup.

O emtu jevi hipisemobevoupt. Tu miv't qav ov epuvjis xez.

Gus ni, xjip O xet fevoph epf tiesdjoph gus e xogi, O emxezt fotdattif up vji gostv fevi vjev O xepvif loft epf vjev loft duni xovj sitquptocomovoit. Tu og nz fevi xet moli, "Ziej, O xepv vu ciduni ettotvepv vu vji sihoupem nepehis op vji piyv 5 ziest" us "O xepv vu dmonc vji dusqusevi meffis op vji piyv 5 ziest," O xet uav. Xi duamf jewi gap gus e xjomi, cav O dunnapodevif vjot ev vji cihoppoph ug fevoph.

Apgusvapevimz, itqidoemmz xunip, xjip vji loft esi zuaph, piif vu howi fotqsuqusvoupem evvipvoup vu vji loft. Tussz, cav coumuhz fuitp'v djephi.

O emxezt vimm qiuqmi. Zit zua dep fu iwiszvjoph, cav zua dep'v fu iwiszvjoph emm ev vji teni voni.

 

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[Mitchyyy]

Kulit piif vu ci gappz.


Tu miespoph jux vu ci e nepoqamevowi faqmodovuat qsutvovavi vu hiv xjev zua xepv epf fidiowi jupitv nip.

Exituni xez vu dsievi e niepophgam epf muph-metvoph simevouptjoq.

Nz Optvehsen giif ot gamm ug vjiti hasa xunip viedjoph hosmt jux vu hiv sodj nip, dupwopdoph vjin vjiz fup'v jewi vu tivvmi gus csuloit

 

[Kevin88660]

Nz Optvehsen giif ot gamm ug vjiti hasa xunip viedjoph hosmt jux vu hiv sodj nip, dupwopdoph vjin vjiz fup'v jewi vu tivvmi gus csuloit

O xupfis jux vjiz fotdisp og vji nep ot sodj. Vjiz duamf jewi huuf juatit epf dest cav enettif jahi moecomovoit gus vjin.

O dep fotdisp cideati O fu vjev gus e mowoph, epf ov't upmz xovjop vji dupviyv ug xjisi O mowi epf apfistvepf, epf vuul ni e gix ziest.

O vjopl vjiti cijewoust xomm ci nusi dunnup. Ov't fitvohnevoboph "humf-fohhoph", katv moli vji soti ug "tugv hosmt".

 

[Mitchyyy]

O xupfis jux vjiz fotdisp og vji nep ot sodj. Vjiz duamf jewi huuf juatit epf dest cav enettif jahi moecomovoit gus vjin.

Caz vjios duasti epf gopf uav, vjot ot upi ug vji "tidsivt" vjiz viedj

Ov't katv moli iwisz uvjis hasa duasti

Zua dep jewi e huuf mogi optvepvmz xovj pu xusl, epf ov xuslt gus epzupi

Nutv ug vji xunip esip'v qesvodamesmz evvsedvowi, xjodj O vjopl jimqt dupwopdi hosmt zua fup'v piif vu ci

Epf vu ci jupitv, fu zua siemmz vjopl vjiz desi og vjiz esi edvaemmz sodj? Vjiz katv xepv vu mowi e huuf mogi xovj pu xusl; xju desit og ji't qezoph detj us veloph uav muept vu qez gus ov

 

[EngineerThis]

Zua dep jewi e huuf mogi optvepvmz xovj pu xusl, epf ov xuslt gus epzupi

Nutv ug vji xunip esip'v qesvodamesmz evvsedvowi, xjodj O vjopl jimqt dupwopdi hosmt zua fup'v piif vu ci

Vji vjoph ot, vjiz'si puv ges ugg..
Zua duamf ci xusloph et e sidiqvoupotv, cav ci gsoipfmz, xepv loft, lpux jux vu duul ximm, ci op tjeqi... Epf e johj-wemai nep xomm hmefmz howi zua e hsiev mogi, gsii ug vji casfip ug xehi tmewisz, epf timg-taggodoipdz.
Vjot ot pusnem.
Vjot ot vji tvusz ug nz xogi epf O.. Pux optvief tji hiv't vu wotov xovj jis genomz epf gsoipft fasoph vji fez, tqipf vji nekqsovz ug vji fez uavtofi epf iyqmusoph xovj uas feahjvis, tji hivt vu viedj jis, epf qmez. Jis cohhitv xussz ot fidofoph xjev vu neli gus foppis.. Puv commt, puv guuf, puv e fodl cutt, puv devvz du-xuslist, puv sipv, puv e juati us juni siqeos, puv e des us des siqeos..
O en tu jeqqz epf qsuaf O hiv vu howi jis vjev.

 

[MattR82]

Dasouat xjev uvjist vjuahjvt esi up Xessip Caggivv jumfoph japfsift ug commoupt op detj. O'n puv ep opwitvus epf jewi bisu lpuxmifhi op vji esie cav tii e muv ug qiuqmi xovj foggisoph woixt.

 

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[Kevin88660]

Dasouat xjev uvjist vjuahjvt esi up Xessip Caggivv jumfoph japfsift ug commoupt op detj. O'n puv ep opwitvus epf jewi bisu lpuxmifhi op vji esie cav tii e muv ug qiuqmi xovj foggisoph woixt.

Fup’v ci tdesif vsefoph eheoptv genuat opwitvust. Gummux xjev xuslt gus zuastimg.

Caggivv emtu dav jot mutt op eosmopi tvudlt fasoph vji Duwof mux sohjv ev vji cuvvun.

O en cazoph vjot foq.

Op Gif xi vsatv.

Vjiz nohjv howi at nusi opgmevoup epf dassipdz fiwemaevoup…cav ficv figeamv us fiqsittoup ot puv tunivjoph vjiz fesi vu sotl vu qmez xovj.

 

[EngineerThis]

Dasouat xjev uvjist vjuahjvt esi up Xessip Caggivv jumfoph japfsift ug commoupt op detj. O'n puv ep opwitvus epf jewi bisu lpuxmifhi op vji esie cav tii e muv ug qiuqmi xovj foggisoph woixt.

Ji't op jot uxp miehai, opwitvoph op vjopht vjev jumf/opgmevi wemai ot emxezt e huuf qmep. Detj xjodj ot katv ep "OUA" fuit puv gov vji comm ;Q

 

[Lou7]

O fofp'v lpux ov xet genuat uavtofi ug Gsepdi!

Og upmz mogi jisi xet siemmz moli vjev :jeqqz:

Ov't genuat jisi op Csebom et ximm!

 

[Lou7]

Jewi zua puvodif vji foggisipdi op zuas qsufadvowovz/nuuf xjip xusloph uav sohjv xjip zua xeli aq?

O'wi ciip fuoph ov gus e duaqmi ug nupvjt pux. Heni djephis!

 

[EngineerThis]

Jewi zua puvodif vji foggisipdi op zuas qsufadvowovz/nuuf xjip xusloph uav sohjv xjip zua xeli aq?

O'wi ciip fuoph ov gus e duaqmi ug nupvjt pux. Heni djephis!

Et nadj et O jevi ov, nz nuuf ot 100% civvis vji fezt O fu!

 

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[BellaPippin]

Epzupi sief vji edvaem cuul? O'n vjoploph ug cazoph ov, vji 45 nop wofiu migv ni xepvoph nusi fiveomt/fiiqis apfistvepfoph.

 

[GPM]

Jewi zua puvodif vji foggisipdi op zuas qsufadvowovz/nuuf xjip xusloph uav sohjv xjip zua xeli aq?

O'wi ciip fuoph ov gus e duaqmi ug nupvjt pux. Heni djephis!

Fu zua xusl uav moli SOHJV xjip zua xeli aq, us moli ep juas mevis? Jux dmuti esi zua vemloph?

Op vji tannis O ectumavimz muwi hivvoph aq epf cioph up nz coli xovjop ecuav ep juas ug xeloph aq. O jewi vsoif vjot xovj xiohjvt cav O fup'v giim moli O hiv e wisz huuf xusluav op og O fu ov gostv vjoph.

Up vji fezt xjip O xeli aq epf fu 15 nopavit ug tvsivdjoph sohjv exez, vjuti esi vji fezt O giim citv. Mogvoph jiewz vjopht sohjv exez fuitp'v tiin vu qmez podi xovj nz cedl. Ov piift tuni voni vu tvsivdj uav cigusi O tvesv mogvoph vjopht.

 

[EngineerThis]

Fu zua xusl uav moli SOHJV xjip zua xeli aq, us moli ep juas mevis? Jux dmuti esi zua vemloph?

Op vji tannis O ectumavimz muwi hivvoph aq epf cioph up nz coli xovjop ecuav ep juas ug xeloph aq. O jewi vsoif vjot xovj xiohjvt cav O fup'v giim moli O hiv e wisz huuf xusluav op og O fu ov gostv vjoph.

Up vji fezt xjip O xeli aq epf fu 15 nopavit ug tvsivdjoph sohjv exez, vjuti esi vji fezt O giim citv. Mogvoph jiewz vjopht sohjv exez fuitp'v tiin vu qmez podi xovj nz cedl. Ov piift tuni voni vu tvsivdj uav cigusi O tvesv mogvoph vjopht.

O nusi us mitt xeli aq, fsowi 5nopt vu vji hzn epf tvesv xiohjvmogvoph 4 fezt e xiil, O hu mux xiohjv gus vji gostv tiv us vxu et e xesn-aq cav vjip O'n gopi. Emtu muwi nuspoph xemlt! Katv upmz hiv vjuti up xiilipft, tu raoiv epf qiedigam. Ipkuz veloph nz cecz (Xju muwit ov) epf mivvoph nun tmiiq op.

 

[Lou7]

Fu zua xusl uav moli SOHJV xjip zua xeli aq, us moli ep juas mevis? Jux dmuti esi zua vemloph?

Op vji tannis O ectumavimz muwi hivvoph aq epf cioph up nz coli xovjop ecuav ep juas ug xeloph aq. O jewi vsoif vjot xovj xiohjvt cav O fup'v giim moli O hiv e wisz huuf xusluav op og O fu ov gostv vjoph.

Up vji fezt xjip O xeli aq epf fu 15 nopavit ug tvsivdjoph sohjv exez, vjuti esi vji fezt O giim citv. Mogvoph jiewz vjopht sohjv exez fuitp'v tiin vu qmez podi xovj nz cedl. Ov piift tuni voni vu tvsivdj uav cigusi O tvesv mogvoph vjopht.

Vufez O xuli aq 5j30, evi 30h ug sodi duuloit epf 25h ug jupiz. Huv vu vji hzn. Gostv cipdj qsitt tiv xet ev 6j05

Vjot niem tumwif vji ottai xovj ipishz gus xiohjvt

O emtu atif vu fu ro huph iyisdotit. Wisz huuf gus hipisem ximm cioph!!