Ebola in the USA... Anyone Concerned?

[DeletedUser394]

Since the cdc owns the patent, can law suits be brought against them?

you can sue for anything

Edit: not actually true

 

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[Guest3722A]

It wouldn't be me personally. I am wondering what the recourse could be, seeing that people are becoming infected when the owner's of the patent knew exactly what the potential could be, and didn't act in a manner to protect the public.

 

[Bananas]

But now the new CDC storyline is...





http://www.marketwatch.com/story/eb...ore-boarding-flight-2014-10-15?dist=countdown

And once passengers come down with it, what will be the new story?? The new narrative? The new excuse and justification?

It's pathetic that no matter what the story, the CDC has an answer to continue their plodding narrative that "Nothing to see here folks, move along..."

I feel sick. I'm less than 100 miles away from this.

Analysis Paralysis: at what point do I ban my husband from working and just sit in the house?

 

[Jakeeck]

Are there any theories as to how those nurses could have possibly gotten infected while wearing total protective gear? Was there a tiny microscopic hole in their suit and an ebola air-bubble got in there? I mean I just don't get it. What could they have possibly done to get infected?

 

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[theag]

lol @ the guys seriously discussing patents here

scary shit. I just read some articles. if at least 10% of them are true, it seems like hospital workers in the US are all F*cking stupid morons, judging from all the mistakes they made.

well, back to work..

 

[MJ DeMarco]

So this nurse...

A) Takes her temperature before boarding a plane (showing premeditated knowledge of her vulnerability)
B) Sees a fever at 99.5
C) Decides that the fever and that possible Ebola infection is not as important as visiting Cleveland.
D) Boards plane putting innocent people (and children) at risk.

Folks, this is the exact thing I spoke about above in my post above about my trip to Belize. Self-absorbed, self-entitled STUPIDITY will spread this thing. And you just witnessed ACT 1 .

What could they have possibly done to get infected?

I suspect in the removal of the clothing.

at what point do I ban my husband from working and just sit in the house?

My GF is a nurse and we were just talking about this last night.

 

[Iwokeup]

And I am an ER doctor and this has me really worried. And that nurse deciding to get on the plane anyway (if the stories are true) is beyond irresponsible.

I tell you what: I am NOT going to put my family at risk of contracting this illness if I get exposed. No way

 

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[Bananas]

So this nurse...

A) Takes her temperature before boarding a plane (showing premeditated knowledge of her vulnerability)
B) Sees a fever at 99.5
C) Decides that the fever and that possible Ebola infection is not as important as visiting Cleveland.
D) Boards plane putting innocent people (and children) at risk.

Folks, this is the exact thing I spoke about above in my post above about my trip to Belize. Self-absorbed, self-entitled STUPIDITY will spread this thing. And you just witnessed ACT 1 .



I suspect in the removal of the clothing.



My GF is a nurse and we were just talking about this last night.

I would really appreciate it if you would share what you decide.

I can't tell if I am thinking rationally or not right now.

 

[Iwokeup]

I would recommend prudent preparation.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

I can't tell if I am thinking rationally or not right now.

You are in a hot zone so I would err on the side of caution. Assume the worse, prepare for the worse. It would be better in the end to look back and say you overreacted, than to live in regret of underreaction.

I would recommend prudent preparation.

As a physician, what, in your opinion, would that be? A personal quarantine?

 

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[Bananas]

I would recommend prudent preparation.

At the risk of being rude, as a physician, do you know anything about Hazmat suits you could share with us?

I am willing to purchase Hazmat suits for myself and my husband, and looking on Amazon there are various types and I don't know enough about them to know how to choose. While there are many websites detailing different preps for general situations and this situation in particular, most of them seem to be capitalizing on the situation so I look at their information with that in mind.

I'm sure I'm not the only person reading this thread who would appreciate it if you shared anything you might know, as a person experienced in healthcare.

 

[DeletedUser394]

Buying excess supplies (food, first aid, prescriptions, water, toiletries, generator, etc) is more than reasonable for anyone.

Buying a hazmat suit because 3 people had ebola 100 miles away is a tad bit much...

 

[Guest3722A]

I have one more lil story about The D (Metro-Detroit) that happened a few years back.

One summer, the power grid went off line and the entire area was without power for several days. Everything was off including fueling stations, grocery store coolers (eventually) and things like that. People would drive until they ran out of gas and then just leave their vehicles in the streets. And sleeping in the heat of summer was the only choice - For days. And then fueling stations went back online slowly and people would be backed up for miles trying to get gas, and would wait for hours.

Just something else to think about.

 

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[Iwokeup]

As a physician, what, in your opinion, would that be? A personal quarantine?

Try to avoid public arenas for now. That would be a start

 

[Iwokeup]

At the risk of being rude, as a physician, do you know anything about Hazmat suits you could share with us?

I am willing to purchase Hazmat suits for myself and my husband, and looking on Amazon there are various types and I don't know enough about them to know how to choose. While there are many websites detailing different preps for general situations and this situation in particular, most of them seem to be capitalizing on the situation so I look at their information with that in mind.

I'm sure I'm not the only person reading this thread who would appreciate it if you shared anything you might know, as a person experienced in healthcare.

I really don't think that you or anyone needs a hazmat suit right now.

 

[Unknown]

I'm not really worried about this, but I've always been curious. Could Ebola travel on the packages I import from China using UPS? I used to believe everything was irradiated, but I can't seem to find any evidence on Google.

 

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[ChickenHawk]

The latest news says she had a fever while on the airplane. Now people might have a reason to worry.

I hadn't yet heard this. There goes my theory that Nurse #2 is blameless. Wow. Just wow.

In related news...THIS is the kind of dumbshit guidance we're getting TODAY, even after all of this has happened. It goes to show that the government's primary focus is on preventing panic, not the spread of the virus.

CDC: You Can Give—But Can’t Get—Ebola on a Bus
Dr. Tom Frieden, director for the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), said during a telephone press briefing Wednesday that you cannot get Ebola by sitting next to someone on a bus, but that infected or exposed persons should not ride public transportation because they could transmit the disease to someone else. (http://cnsnews.com/news/article/brittany-m-hughes/cdc-you-can-give-can-t-get-ebola-bus)

 

[Bananas]

I really don't think that you or anyone needs a hazmat suit right now.

That's why I want one. I'd like to have that handled before everyone decides they need one and the price goes up 1000% or else they're out of stock. I can always sell it if I change my mind later.

 

[AllenCrawley]

I hadn't yet heard this. There goes my theory that Nurse #2 is blameless. Wow. Just wow.

In related news...THIS is the kind of dumbshit guidance we're getting TODAY, even after all of this has happened. It goes to show that the government's primary focus is on preventing panic, not the spread of the virus.

CDC: You Can Give—But Can’t Get—Ebola on a Bus
Dr. Tom Frieden, director for the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), said during a telephone press briefing Wednesday that you cannot get Ebola by sitting next to someone on a bus, but that infected or exposed persons should not ride public transportation because they could transmit the disease to someone else. (http://cnsnews.com/news/article/brittany-m-hughes/cdc-you-can-give-can-t-get-ebola-bus)

Lol, well that was a head shaker.

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

CDC: You Can Give—But Can’t Get—Ebola on a Bus

Yup, just another bureaucrat reciting paradoxical barbs to sooth the masses. Listening to these tools is like listening to a politician. They'll tell ya "if you like your healthcare plan, you can keep your healthcare plan" that is, until you realize too late that you cannot. God help us all.

 

[GuestUser140]

So, what would you do when you realize it's spreading rapdily in your country?

 

[Bananas]

Been texting my stepmom, who I trust almost more than any other person. Both her and my dad are over the age of 60 and live in Texas as well - and she doesn't seem to find my thoughts irrational either. On one hand, it's great to be a rational person. On the other hand, it's frightening to be told, yes your fears are rational, it is a good idea to lay in extra supplies, etc.

I've advised my husband to come home as soon as possible and warned him we are going to the store for supplies. This is the beginning. When normal people start to get worried and alter their daily routines based on that worry.

 

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[ZCP]

Going to go back and watch 12 Monkeys..... trying to remember what Bruce Willis did.......

 

[Unknown]

Going to go back and watch 12 Monkeys..... trying to remember what Bruce Willis did.......

 

[Guest3722A]

do you know anything about Hazmat suits

As a licensed hazmat driver, and its been a couple years, but I believe a level 3 (or maybe it was level 4) was full chemical. Respirator, goggles, full rubberized skin protect, rubberized high boots, gloves etc. Can't remember if level 3 was a burn/fire suit or full chemical. Something to google though??

And yes, I drove a tanker so I dealt with all kinds of fun stuff and had to wear the costumes.

Just passing info as I do realize that several here are invincible. -To be young again...

 

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[ChickenHawk]

I wish I could find the exact article, but a few years ago, I came across a really interesting article that discussed who survived disasters and why. One common characteristic was a willingness to disregard the guidance of authority figures when that guidance made no sense. For example, in the Twin Towers, lots of people were told to "stay put, because help is on the way..." The "distrusting," survivor types said, "This is bullshit" and made for the exits anyway, even though they were breaking the rules and might look foolish. Same with ferry accidents, etc.

If you buy masks/food/water/whatever now, and don't need them, you'll look foolish to some people. If you don't, and the disaster is worse than authority figures are letting on, looking foolish will the be the least of your problems.

 

[Bananas]

As a licensed hazmat driver, and its been a couple years, but I believe a level 3 (or maybe it was level 4) was full chemical. Respirator, goggles, full rubberized skin protect, rubberized high boots, gloves etc. Can't remember if level 3 was a burn/fire suit or full chemical. Something to google though??

And yes, I drove a tanker so I dealt with all kinds of fun stuff and had to wear the costumes.

Just passing info as I do realize that several here are invincible. -To be young again...

Thank you, I appreciate this information and will shop based on what you have said.

 

[Guest3722A]

Thank you, I appreciate this information and will shop based on what have said.

What I said will get you in the ballpark. Not sure on the specifics of the topic at hand though. So, definitely requires some dd!

 

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[Darius]

Welcome to Cleveland ebola

 

[Bananas]

What I said will get you in the ballpark. Not sure on the specifics of the topic at hand though. So, definitely requires some dd!

Ballpark is what I need. That's enough to get started in the right direction!