Tell me pls - how to promote my trading skills?

[Quantum leap]

Hello! I will be very happy and grateful to you if you find a minute to give me some advice!

I come from a fairly poor family with little income. It so happened that for health reasons 8 years ago I stopped going to work. For the first 3 years I was restoring my health, and then I began to think about how I could earn money, because can't go back to work. My choice fell on trading. For about 3 years I studied it very deeply. And after about 3 years, it began to turn out more and more stable. Now I have reached the level where every day I know the general direction of price moving and follow this trend, taking some part of the movement. High win rate.

However, my deposit is not very large and following the rules of risk management and money management, will increase for quite a long time. So I thought about ways to cooperate with other people for their benefit and for myself.

I know that my trading skill is quite high compared to what I see on YouTube and Instagram from people who sell poor info products with good marketing. From the very beginning, I did not want to follow in those footsteps. And now, I feel that I can give people a quality product, but they do not notice me, because there are so many bright promises of smoke around.

Thank you for reading this. I would like to ask you for advice - what should I do, what methods to use in order to convey to interested people information about what I can do and do well.

 

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[Skroob]

So what are you looking for exactly? Do you want people to trust you to invest their money for them? Because, I'm sorry, but they're not going to. What's more, in the US anyway, there's massive licensing requirements for this kind of thing.

My advice would be, if your market sense and trading skills are really that much better than all the others on YouTube, prove it. Make a daily video, show your trades in real time, and let people see for themselves. Start writing down your methodology for information products, start an email newsletter, and you'll blow all of them away because your returns beat theirs and it'll be right there for everyone to see.

But I think you should probably take a really close look at your numbers before you attempt that.

 

[Quantum leap]

Thank you for your reply!

I tried doing what you say. True, I started a page on Instagram and posted trades that I had just entered and which, hours later, brought quite a significant profit. I also posted my trading reports from the broker, which proved that I was trading a real account. For 8-9 months, only 70 subscribers and most of them are bots. Almost no interest.

 

[Skroob]

Thank you for your reply!

I tried doing what you say. True, I started a page on Instagram and posted trades that I had just entered and which, hours later, brought quite a significant profit. I also posted my trading reports from the broker, which proved that I was trading a real account. For 8-9 months, only 70 subscribers and most of them are bots. Almost no interest.

I mean, you do still need to do marketing. "Build a better mousetrap" is a damned lie and always has been.

But if you're really beating the market (and everyone else), the promotions kinda write themselves, don't they? "Hi, I'm Quantum leap, and my returns last year were 15%, compared to the S&P's -18%. The proof is here on my website, extremelyunlikelyreturns.org, where you can sign up for my newsletter and I'll email you my picks every morning before market open."

 

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[techvx]

As an ex account manager from the brokerage industry (albeit, not strictly US - as most of the clients we were servicing were in Europe), if I were to put myself in the shoes of the people that would be interested in your offer, I'd want you to:

1) prove that you are actually better than all the pie-in-sky, get-a-lambo-in-30-days, kind of trading gurus out there

2) prove that you being better is going to last, and not turn around against the money they've invested with you in a few weeks, once another NFP report comes out on the first Friday of the month, or whenever it is that they get released now

3) prove that you are a genuine human being that will keep doing whatever is needed to take care of their cash, regardless of how tough it gets - and not just disappear one day without a trace because of a massive slippage

And, for those a bit more aware of the underlying mechanisms, who have most likely grown tired of the endless "foolproof" systems and "guaranteed win" signals on Telegram, they would sure would want you to:

4) prove that your strategy itself is sound and not a Martingale-based grid that casino-roulettes their investments

5) prove that the broker you're asking them to invest in you with will not suddenly go bankrupt or cease processing their withdrawal requests (assuming you're not going to ask them to transfer their cash to your personal bank account here)

If you can do all of that, for a prolonged period of time, you'll have no shortage of people who would be willing to work with you. How could you go about all of them, given that in the last 2/3/5 years you've still haven't grown your own capital in a way that would be substantial enough (judging by your own post - do correct me if I'm wrong)?

Get your own YouTube / Instagram / TikTok / Telegram / Twitter / whatever channels. Brainstorm creative and engaging ways to teach people about the market, the different approaches to it, what works and what doesn't. Intermix those with your own results, expressed in the %. Consider launching your own free course, perhaps even writing a few short guides. You'll need every way to build a solid reputation you can get. There's no shortcut here, not if you're serious about this.

If your win rate, along with your P/L ratio - which is just as important - are indeed extremely solid, consider working your "power base" first. The 3F's - friends, family and fools - can work just as fine. Show some results to the people closest to you, those who already trust in you and your skills. If those will be spectacular, there shouldn't be any issue to ask them for a "review" or even a "video testimonial" for your proper investor pitch to come later on.

Posting trades will not help you. Reports can be faked, even platforms such as MyFxBook can be cooked up if you're in good terms with your broker and they don't mind wiggling your open/close prices a bit. Or if you're working for a broker, of course. Anyone who has been in the sector long enough will either be completely turned off, or totally desensitized to them, via the barrage of previously consumed guru posts. If you want to attract real investors, begin to think like them. Demonstrate the foundations of your expertise - not just the screenshots of a few of your successful trades.

Lastly, keep in mind that although most people in the industry, on the retail side of the equation at least, are very suspicious of fakes and scams, most of them still believe that there's a "secret" way of the "holy grail" system that never loses and generates an unlimited amount of cash at the press of a button. They will never admit to it, yet this is precisely what keeps them away from the proper risk-awareness and money management skills. They want the thrill, they want the chase, they want it all, and they want it now. If any of your initial touch points hit them with the cold harsh truth of the fact that it will take longer, and they will make less that their delusional hopes tell them they can, you'll just get ignored.

It's an interesting challenge that you've got for yourself, indeed. If others can do it, there's a way for you too, though.

 

[Quantum leap]

If you can do all of that, for a prolonged period of time, you'll have no shortage of people who would be willing to work with you.

Thank you so much for your reply! It gave me many valuable thoughts!

 

[hexelbyte]

Consider looking at prop shops like FTMO or Maverick.
Many online traders vouch for these as a launchpad for trading directional instruments.
It will allow you to start with a much low amount (assuming you are a great trader as you claim).
So for $600, you get funded $100k on FTMO.

If you really are as solid as you are set up a live performance tracker like kinfo or myfxbook.
This will allow you to share your track record to a well-known site.

 

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[Quantum leap]

If you really are as solid as you are set up a live performance tracker like kinfo or myfxbook.
This will allow you to share your track record to a well-known site.

Thank you for your advice!

 

[techvx]

Consider looking at prop shops like FTMO or Maverick.
Many online traders vouch for these as a launchpad for trading directional instruments.
It will allow you to start with a much low amount (assuming you are a great trader as you claim).
So for $600, you get funded $100k on FTMO.

Not to spoil the fun, but to keep things real: some of the traders that I was pitching the services of the brokers I was working for shared a few of their own experiences with FTMO and the like. It wasn't all roses.

Some have claimed that they were scammed out of their money, given the numbers in the terminal to play with ("the capital") after having shown a solid, consistent performance, and blocked soon afterwards. Some were allowed to keep going for a little longer, before being denied any withdrawals before their first "paycheck". The company I was servicing, providing their own FTMO-like competition, once did a training for us, outlining some unfortunate "risk taking gone bad" with a trader that was never supposed to make money, and now was piling cash, which the house itself had to give him. There are conflicts of interest of all kinds in this sector - some of which you'll never hear about, and most of which are going to be largely glossed over by all the "online traders" who, allegedly, "vouch" for this business or that.

When they get paid in CPA for each and every sucker they lure in, it shouldn't be that much of a surprise. Yet most can never be bothered to do their homework or to drag themselves out of their unicorn land of hopes and dreams about easy money. You can't help a fool, though.

 

[hexelbyte]

Not to spoil the fun, but to keep things real: some of the traders that I was pitching the services of the brokers I was working for shared a few of their own experiences with FTMO and the like. It wasn't all roses.

Some have claimed that they were scammed out of their money, given the numbers in the terminal to play with ("the capital") after having shown a solid, consistent performance, and blocked soon afterwards. Some were allowed to keep going for a little longer, before being denied any withdrawals before their first "paycheck". The company I was servicing, providing their own FTMO-like competition, once did a training for us, outlining some unfortunate "risk taking gone bad" with a trader that was never supposed to make money, and now was piling cash, which the house itself had to give him. There are conflicts of interest of all kinds in this sector - some of which you'll never hear about, and most of which are going to be largely glossed over by all the "online traders" who, allegedly, "vouch" for this business or that.

When they get paid in CPA for each and every sucker they lure in, it shouldn't be that much of a surprise. Yet most can never be bothered to do their homework or to drag themselves out of their unicorn land of hopes and dreams about easy money. You can't help a fool, though.

Of course there are risks relying on "bucket shops" for capital.
However, this is an alternative to just trading with OP's small account.
Always dyor on who to go with, there are reputable ones out there.
Honestly the forex ones are the most fishy compares to futures based.
In the end, if you are a solid, consistent trader it really doesn't matter since you can easily move onto the next provider if things go sour.

 

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[Kevin88660]

Hello! I will be very happy and grateful to you if you find a minute to give me some advice!

I come from a fairly poor family with little income. It so happened that for health reasons 8 years ago I stopped going to work. For the first 3 years I was restoring my health, and then I began to think about how I could earn money, because can't go back to work. My choice fell on trading. For about 3 years I studied it very deeply. And after about 3 years, it began to turn out more and more stable. Now I have reached the level where every day I know the general direction of price moving and follow this trend, taking some part of the movement. High win rate.

However, my deposit is not very large and following the rules of risk management and money management, will increase for quite a long time. So I thought about ways to cooperate with other people for their benefit and for myself.

I know that my trading skill is quite high compared to what I see on YouTube and Instagram from people who sell poor info products with good marketing. From the very beginning, I did not want to follow in those footsteps. And now, I feel that I can give people a quality product, but they do not notice me, because there are so many bright promises of smoke around.

Thank you for reading this. I would like to ask you for advice - what should I do, what methods to use in order to convey to interested people information about what I can do and do well.

Go on education path, refer to “trading with rayner”.

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