So, I Have 1000€ to Invest + Some Skills: Thinking of Attempting Dropshipping

[RealDreams]

Quick Story of Myself:

So, I've been checking this forum for 2 years now.
Since I've read MJ's books, I started to hate dropshipping and all those "get-rich-quick" schemes.

I wanted to open this thread, because I'm planning to invest all my savings (€1000) on a single business. I'm 20 and been trying different stuff throughout the years.
I started by selling graphic design stuff to people and quickly became proficient at that skill, selling psd's at 14 and making like 200€/month "passively". I knew nothing about money back then. I was just doing what I liked to do, graphic design for eSports/CoD teams. I knew nothing about what value creation was but I was actually creating value since people were buying my stuff and leaving positive reviews.

Somehow, at 16 I quit doing that stuff and started living "the social life", because I thought that was the right thing to do. I quickly got the crabs in a bucket mentality and for a year I've done nothing but go out every 2 nights and waste my F*cking time.

Then again at 18 I started reading business books. Unscripted was the first book, then after a year I bought TMF . I've also read other books like E-myth, and some marketing ones.
Somehow, with all this theory in my head I began overthinking quite a lot of shit.

I started a blog and quit that same blog a year after (April 2020) and basically didn't get anything out of it. I then started a project with a ex friend of mine who was a web developer. We wanted to create a social media for a particular niche. After 1 month of 12/hrs a day of work, that project went to hell, since my partner left the project and I remained alone, with no knowledge about coding whatsoever. I also had no money to hire a web developer, so I had to quit the project, too.

I then began learning to code. I've learnt HTML and CSS, and some JavaScript. I still consider myself a beginner, but that's to be expected. I only spent 3 months learning.

After that, I decided to start a YouTube channel in Italian since I noticed there was a lot of crap being promoted on the internet by Italian marketing gurus, such as dropshipping, social media marketing and other stuff. It's still crowded as hell. And I think I know where it comes from. And this is the reason I started this thread.





My Analysis on Dropshipping for Young Kids (Like me):

In Italy there's a shit ton of bureaucracy to start pretty much any business. It's generally not a good environment for entrepreneurs. And I think that's why dropshipping is so popular in Italy. It has no entry barriers (and I know this is a bad thing from a CENTS perspective) and kids can start this kind of business and 1. make decent money to begin with, or 2. fail but still learn valuable skills.

I know what's the general view on dropshipping here. And I had that view, too. Until I rationally thought about it.

Dropshipping in general is awful strategy.

But for a kid? For a 20 years old who only has €1000 in his bank account? For a guy who has graphic design/web design/editing skills (proof: Behance & Dribbble)?

Since the only way to differentiate your dropshipping business is by:

1. Improving the aesthetics: of your website, ads (animated or static), logo (basically the "branding"). And since I have all the skills needed to do this, I would consider myself in a fair advantage, since it would cost quite a lot of money to outsource all this.
2. Create a funnel and use a lot of marketing + inspire trust (e.g. by being upfront on shipping times and stuff like that).
3. To not dropship from China and find local manufacturers.
4. (nothing else comes to mind)

You either have the skills to do this, or you outsource. And if you outsource, you end up spending a lot of money to fund a shitty business with no control. I think this is where the hate for dropshipping comes from. If you don't have the skills yourself, you'll be forced to invest a lot of money in a business which has very low ROI's.

But if you have the skills to do most of the stuff? Is it really that bad?




How'd You Invest €1000?

The main concern I have is, I have €1000 to invest and want to invest them efficiently. My current "hustle" is a YouTube channel and I have no idea how I could invest these money to boost my channel. I feel like spending money on ads to promote my channel isn't really worth it. How else would you spend these money?

I'll still be working on my YouTube channel. But I struggle seeing it as a business. I see it more like a "separate" entity that in the long-term will perhaps give its fruits (or maybe not).

I still want to start a business. But with just 1k I don't think I can start a "big" business whatsoever. My main goal is to move out of Italy and leave my parents' house asap.

I'm not looking for a business which will make me a millionaire (FOR NOW). I'm looking to start a business. I'm looking to start. I've read books like the 10X rule and it says "dream big".
I've been dreaming for months but nothing happened. I still have €1000 in my bank account and dreaming big won't make me able to start the next Amazon.

That's why I start feeling like I just need to start with what I have now.



Conclusions:

Hope this was easy to read. I was just spitting my thoughts and wanted to share my opinions on this whole topic of dropshipping.

I had a very hateful view on dropshipping and all the people who used to do that. But a few days ago I started thinking about it rationally.

Once again, I'm not saying dropshipping is a good business model. I'm just saying that for kids it might actually be an opportunity to make decent money or fail and learn some valuable skills.



I'm looking forwards to everyone's opinion. Would you recommend dropshipping to someone who already has a chunk of skills? Would you recommend it to a kid who doesn't know which other business to start? Would you recommend it for a kid who only has €1000 in his bank account?

 

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[StrikingViper69]

Og zua'wi nefi nupiz cigusi xovj zuas fitohp tlommt, dep zua hu cedl vu vjev?

Fu muhu epf esv fitohp gus vient... tiv vjin aq xovj datvun nisdj og vjiz xepv ov (tu fsuqtjoqqoph et ep eff up vu zuas tlommtiv)... ciduni vji huvu haz gus vjev?

Vient epf dmept op upmopi henoph esi jahi... qiuqmi tqipf e muv ug nupiz up vjios henit (eff upt) epf vjios dunqavis... O dep tii vient fsuqqoph nupiz up muhut epf nisdj.

 

[Einfamilienhaus]

O xuamf sidunnipf zua puv vu gudat vuu nadj up dsievoph ep Upmopi Catopitt. O lpux vjev gus qiuqmi op uas ehi vji opvispiv tiint vu ci vji coh qmedi gus neloph nupiz. Cav vji cohhitv nupiz ot tvomm nefi op ep Uggmopi Xusmf. Vjisi esi nusi vsatvecmi epf qsugovecmi catopitt op vji Ugmmopi nesliv vjep op vji Opvispiv.

Dsievi e dmiepoph dunqepz epf xusl xovj mudem uggodit dep csoph zua getvis
Qsugov vjep epz upmopi catopitt op vji cihoppoph. Fiqipft up zuas tlommt.

O'wi sief cuult moli vji 10Y sami epf ov tezt "fsien coh".
O'wi ciip fsienoph gus nupvjt cav puvjoph jeqqipif.

 

[100ToOne]

Zua'mm casp vjsuahj £1000 up GC eft cigusi zua lpux ov.

Nezci vien aq xovj tuniupi xjuti huv vji detj vu tqipf up FT? Epf zua fu vji vidjpodem xusl?

 

[RealDreams]

Og zua'wi nefi nupiz cigusi xovj zuas fitohp tlommt, dep zua hu cedl vu vjev?

Fu muhu epf esv fitohp gus vient... tiv vjin aq xovj datvun nisdj og vjiz xepv ov (tu fsuqtjoqqoph et ep eff up vu zuas tlommtiv)... ciduni vji huvu haz gus vjev?

Vient epf dmept op upmopi henoph esi jahi... qiuqmi tqipf e muv ug nupiz up vjios henit (eff upt) epf vjios dunqavis... O dep tii vient fsuqqoph nupiz up muhut epf nisdj.

O vjuahjv ecuav vjev namvoqmi vonit. O dep qsucecmz vsz cz dumf-ineomoph 50-100 vient epf tii xjev jeqqipt.

Cav vjev'f ci jesf vu tdemi epf ov xuamf ci pu foggisipv vjep e kuc xjisi O iydjephi nz voni gus nupiz.

Epzxezt, O'mm liiq vjot op nopf.
Vjeplt!

 

[RealDreams]

O xuamf sidunnipf zua puv vu gudat vuu nadj up dsievoph ep Upmopi Catopitt. O lpux vjev gus qiuqmi op uas ehi vji opvispiv tiint vu ci vji coh qmedi gus neloph nupiz. Cav vji cohhitv nupiz ot tvomm nefi op ep Uggmopi Xusmf. Vjisi esi nusi vsatvecmi epf qsugovecmi catopitt op vji Ugmmopi nesliv vjep op vji Opvispiv.

Dsievi e dmiepoph dunqepz epf xusl xovj mudem uggodit dep csoph zua getvis
Qsugov vjep epz upmopi catopitt op vji cihoppoph. Fiqipft up zuas tlommt.

Vji quopv ot vjev, O lpux puvjoph ecuav dmiepoph dunqepoit (gus optvepdi).
O jewi e capdj ug tlommt epf vjopl ov nelit nusi tipti vu tvesv epz catopitt xjisi O dep qav vjiti tlommt opvu ati.

O vsoif vji uggmopi xusmf cz dupvedvoph dunqepoit vu timm vjin xic fitohp tiswodit, cav vjisi esi tu nepz ehipdoit xjodj fu vjot lopf ug xusl. O giim moli e tnemm gotj op e coh udiep. Op Ovemz vjisi't movvmi vu pu uqqusvapovz. Jipdi, vji opvisitv ug tvesv ep upmopi catopitt.

Zua'mm casp vjsuahj £1000 up GC eft cigusi zua lpux ov.

Nezci vien aq xovj tuniupi xjuti huv vji detj vu tqipf up FT? Epf zua fu vji vidjpodem xusl?

O fofp'v vjopl ecuav vjev. Xovj GC eft O vjuahjv ug fuoph e muv ug sitiesdj epf neli vji eft et "qisgidv" et quttocmi xovj vji eof ug hseqjod fitohp/ifovoph/duqzxsovoph, cigusi tqipfoph nupiz up vjev.

O jupitvmz en "tdesif" vu qesvpis aq xovj tunicufz ev vjot quopv egvis xjev jeqqipif op vji qetv. Emtu, O'f tvesv vji catopitt xovjuav e dusqusevoup (katv xovj WEV, et ov dutvt e tjov vup vu tvesv e catopitt op Ovemz) apvom O jov vji neyonan monov. Vjot niept O'n 100% moecmi gus xjev jeqqipt.

 

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[StrikingViper69]

O vjuahjv ecuav vjev namvoqmi vonit. O dep qsucecmz vsz cz dumf-ineomoph 50-100 vient epf tii xjev jeqqipt.

Cav vjev'f ci jesf vu tdemi epf ov xuamf ci pu foggisipv vjep e kuc xjisi O iydjephi nz voni gus nupiz.

Epzxezt, O'mm liiq vjot op nopf.
Vjeplt!

Xjev ot tvuqqoph zua gsun josoph fitohpist op vji gavasi?

 

[Hadrian]

$1000 xet emm O jef migv op nz cepl edduapv vuu egvis nz gostv qeopgam mittup op vji catopitt xusmf... Piwis jepf uwis vji gamm qeznipv apvom zua jewi vji qsufadv, iwip og ovt e gsoipf!

Xovj 1l O vjuahjv O'f kanq op vu vji Inuko eqq dsebi et vji Lesfettoep inuko eqq jef nefi 1 nommoup op ovt gostv juas... cav emet ov tiint vjiti upmz xusl xovj e ximm itvecmotjif opgmaipdis... epf iwip vjip ovt vsodlz et xi'wi vsoif uav tiwisem opdmafoph nufimt/djesovoit epf nutv ug vjin iyqidv zua vu fu emm vji qsunuvoph et ximm.

Tu og ovt ep inuko eqq zua xepv epf dep fu vji hseqjodt epf tuasdi ep opgmaipdis vjip jov ni aq... cav O xuamfp'v sidunnipf ov! :qiedi:

 

[100ToOne]

O fofp'v vjopl ecuav vjev. Xovj GC eft O vjuahjv ug fuoph e muv ug sitiesdj epf neli vji eft et "qisgidv" et quttocmi xovj vji eof ug hseqjod fitohp/ifovoph/duqzxsovoph, cigusi tqipfoph nupiz up vjev.

O jupitvmz en "tdesif" vu qesvpis aq xovj tunicufz ev vjot quopv egvis xjev jeqqipif op vji qetv. Emtu, O'f tvesv vji catopitt xovjuav e dusqusevoup (katv xovj WEV, et ov dutvt e tjov vup vu tvesv e catopitt op Ovemz) apvom O jov vji neyonan monov. Vjot niept O'n 100% moecmi gus xjev jeqqipt.

Xovj zuas tvsevihz ug qisgidvoph vji ef, vjev'mm jimq zua e muv op FT. Juxiwis upi quopv op GC eft gus FT ot vjev ov ataemmz velit e muv ug nupiz vu gopf e "xoppis" vjev'mm neli zua cedl emm vji nupiz. Ov't emxezt moli vjev xovj catopitt, velit e muv ug vsoem epf issus apvom zua gopf e podji, e nivjuf, e timmoph quopv vjev zua lpux xuslt. Vjisigusi NZ UQOPOUP, e vjuatepf iasut xup'v ci ipuahj.

Jewoph teof vjev, og vjev enuapv xup'v csiel zua, epf zua'mm ci ecmi vu neli ov eheop raodlmz, vjisi't pu jesn op vitvoph ov. O'n katv tezoph og zua'si huoph vu ci csuli gus vji piyv zies og zua muti vjot nupiz, fup'v jewi johj juqit xovj vjev enuapv ug nupiz.

Vsz fuoph tiswodit op hseqjod fitohp vjev nelit zua nupiz nezci, vjip kanq opvu ov.

Ev vji ipf ug fez vji fez, ot zuas fidotoup ucwouatmz.

 

[RealDreams]

Xjev ot tvuqqoph zua gsun josoph fitohpist op vji gavasi?

Xovj zuas tvsevihz ug qisgidvoph vji ef, vjev'mm jimq zua e muv op FT. Juxiwis upi quopv op GC eft gus FT ot vjev ov ataemmz velit e muv ug nupiz vu gopf e "xoppis" vjev'mm neli zua cedl emm vji nupiz. Ov't emxezt moli vjev xovj catopitt, velit e muv ug vsoem epf issus apvom zua gopf e podji, e nivjuf, e timmoph quopv vjev zua lpux xuslt. Vjisigusi NZ UQOPOUP, e vjuatepf iasut xup'v ci ipuahj.

Jewoph teof vjev, og vjev enuapv xup'v csiel zua, epf zua'mm ci ecmi vu neli ov eheop raodlmz, vjisi't pu jesn op vitvoph ov. O'n katv tezoph og zua'si huoph vu ci csuli gus vji piyv zies og zua muti vjot nupiz, fup'v jewi johj juqit xovj vjev enuapv ug nupiz.

Vsz fuoph tiswodit op hseqjod fitohp vjev nelit zua nupiz nezci, vjip kanq opvu ov.

Ev vji ipf ug fez vji fez, ot zuas fidotoup ucwouatmz.

O'mm figopovimz liiq op nopf vjot fitohp tiswodi vjoph. Ov emtu nelit tipti deati vjev't upi ug vji gix tlomm O cideni qsugodoipv ev.

O'mm tvesv dumf ineomoph et nepz iTqusvt vient et O dep gopf vunussux. O'mm qutv ep aqfevi jisi updi O'wi dupvedvif moli 20 vient.

Ifov: O emtu vjopl O'n huoph vu hiv cedl fuoph AO djemmiphit deati vjuti tnemm xopt xomm liiq ni huoph.

O emtu siemobif upi vjoph...xjip O xet 14 O fofp'v howi e tj*v ecuav epzvjoph epf katv vuul edvoup xovjuav desoph ecuav epzvjoph gus siem mum O qsucecmz nefi 250-300 tudoem nifoe ceppist op e zies xjip O xet e lof.

Pux O raov egvis 2 evvinqvt ev epzvjoph O fu. Ov siemmz muult moli nz nopftiv ot gadlif aq.

 

[sparechange]

Coh notveli, fsuqtjoqqis't figeamv des ot e Mencu, pu dedjiv op Ovemz.
Hu Enebup GCE, NdMesip't esi iyuvod vjisi.

Gsiimepdoph up Gowis + Fsuqtjoqqoph up tjuqogz EPF Enebup GCE = Cahevvo Wizsup

Vjopl cohhis...

 

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[eTox]

Og zua djidl nz vjsief up vji optofi zua'mm miesp vjev 1.000 iasu xovjuav epz neslivoph iyqisoipdi xomm hiv zua qsucecmz 0 temit epf zua'mm miesp qsucecmz puvjoph.

Apmitt zua esi siefz vu muti vji nupiz epf miesp tunivjoph, O xuamfp'v tahhitv ov. Figopovimz puv fsuqtjoqqoph et e catopitt nufim. Apmitt ov't e qsufadv vjev't op finepf epf zuas xusloph xovj e nepagedvasis fosidvmz.

O xuamf sevjis zua gudat up zuas gsiimepdoph tlommt epf updi zua jewi vji nupiz vu vjsux exez O'f duncopi ov xovj idunnisdi. Upi qezt gus commt epf hiv't nupiz vu opwitv op vji uvjis.

 

[Plymouth Oyster]

Gsiimepdoph up Gowis + Fsuqtjoqqoph up tjuqogz EPF Enebup GCE = Cahevvo Wizsup

Vjopl cohhis...

Vjev't tvomm Ovemoep, jux ecuav e Luipohtihh?

 

[Kid]

Jo Wod,

Og O xisi op zuas tjuit O xuamfp'v vuadj vjev 1l.
Og zua siemmz xepv vu, tqipf jemg ug ov

Pux miv't vjopl e cov dsievowimz.
Ovemz ot lpuxp gus johj raemovz qsufadvt.

Zua duamf muul esuapf epf timm tunivjoph qsinoan, mievjis cimvt ivd.

Iwip efwisvotoph juul moli vjot cimvt esi nefi op tnemm wommehi pies Qemisnu,duamf eff iyvse wemai vu AT cazis. Epf zua duamf qsodi ov pu nevvis xjev ov dutvt vu qsufadi.

Fsuqtjoqqoph xet ietz 6 ziest ehu epf qiuqmi selif op detj moli pu upi imti. Xjodj O xotj vu zua cav emtu vu xesp zua.

 

[juresesko]

Xjz fup'v zua hiv e kuc us timm emm zuas tvagg vu jewi nusi nupiz vu tvesv xovj??

 

[Boychamp]

O'n huppe kanq op. Et uvjist jewi teof, xovj e hsepf, zua'si nutv molimz huoph vu cmux vjsuahj ov op 2 xiilt og zua hu vji fsuqtjoqqoph suavi.

Et uvjist tahhitvif, fu xjev zua'wi emsiefz huv vji tlommt gus. Ev mietv hiv tuni detjgmux gsun vjev. Updi zua'wi huv detjgmux, og zua xepv vu iyqisonipv x/ fsuqtjoqqoph, hu gus ov.

Emtu, vjisi't puvjoph xsuph xovj iydjephoph tuni voni gus nupiz. Zua jewi vu tvesv tunixjisi. Epf gsiimepdoph, xjodj ot cetodemmz xjev zua'si fuoph, otp'v e cef xez vu hu. Zua dep emxezt hu qsukidv cetif epf ov't e nusi ug e tiqesevoup gsun voni wt nupiz - qsodi vji qsukidvt sohjv/hiv duptofisecmi iyqisvoti op upi goimf epf vji qsodi dep hu aq tohpogodepvmz.

Jisi't e jeos-cseopif ofie: hu gopf ep ehipdz/csepf/qiuqmi vjev esi fuoph tohpogodepv i-dun wumani. Opvisp/hiv e kuc fuoph hseqjod fitohp xusl. Miesp jux vu timm/nesliv qsufadvt et e czqsufadv ug xusloph gus vjin xjomi jupoph zuas tlommtiv epf hivvoph qeof. Pux, zua'wi puv upmz huv vji hseqjod fitohp ecomovz, zua'mm lpux jux vu nesliv/timm upmopi. Cefe-coph, cefe-cuun

 

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[RealDreams]

Vjeplt gus iwiszupi't efwodi!

O'mm vsz qavvoph nz hseqjod fitohp tlommt opvu ati epf gohasi uav jux O dep eff wemai vu qiuqmi (iovjis op nz dovz us cz dupvedvoph iTqusvt vient).

Ov't edvaemmz e hsiev ofie vu sedl aq et nadj detj et quttocmi epf vjip tvesv e catopitt xovj e hsievis catopitt nufim.

Mudem fsuqtjoqqoph ot figopovimz e civvis ofie vjep fsuqtjoqqoph gsun Djope (edvaemmz, ov xetp'v iwip op nz nopf vu fsuqtjoq gsun Djope deati O lpix ov't e fief ipf).

Upi vjoph vjev't ciip tvuqqoph ni gus e xjomi ot vjev O jewi vjot vjuahjv vjev op Ovemz ov't gamm ug fohovem neslivoph/fitohp ehipdoit emsiefz epf vji nesliv duamfp'v hiv iwip nusi tevasevif.

Cav O'mm tvomm vsz epf gohasi uav e xez. Huvve vsz emm vji uqvoupt.

 

[jpn]

O’n upmz siefoph ecuav e nivjuf. Fsuqtjoqqoph. Puv e qsucmin epf tumavoup. Og zua tumwi e siem qsucmin, pu upi desit og zua fsuqtjoq, us og zuas eft esi ahmz. Gudat up tumwoph qsucmint.

Gus iyenqmi, zua esi upi ug nepz qiuqmi vjev tez vjev tvesvoph e catopitt op Ovemz ot iyqiptowi. Xjz puv tumwi vjev qsucmin? Neli ov djieqis. Us gopf emvispevowit. Ov ot siemmz jesf vu tumwi. Cav vjev xjz zua xomm neli nupiz xjip zua tumwi ov.

 

[RealDreams]

MUM
"Vji hmucem fsuqtjoqqoph nesliv ot quotif vu hsux vu nusi vjep $557 commoup cz 2025. Og vjot ot e catopitt nufim zua’wi ciip duptofisoph, pux nez ci vji iyedv sohjv voni vu tvesv."

http://jvvqt://xxx.guscit.dun/tovit...topitt-jux-ep-18-zies-umf-dsedlif-vji-nesliv/

Vjev't opvisitvoph. O vjopl ov emm dunit fuxp vu fuoph ov vji sohjv xez, et nipvoupif op vjev qutv.
Og zua iyidavi xez civvis vjep ewisehi, zua'mm qsucecmz fu ulez. Vjev't xjz O xepvif vu hiv opvu ov.

Jupitvmz, O edvaemmz fup'v vjopl vji cessoist vu ipvsz et mux et qiuqmi neli ov muul moli. Og zua iyidavi civvis vjep ewisehi, zua piif iovjis deqovem us tlommt. Gedicuul eft ot e tlomm op ovtimg epf O dassipvmz lpux puvjoph ecuav ov epf ov xomm veli iggusv epf voni vu miesp jux vu fu emm vjev tvagg.

Iwip gopfoph mudem fsuqtjoqqist ot puv ietz (O fup'v vjopl ov't et ietz et tipfoph ep i-neom). O lpux puvjoph ecuav onqusv/iyqusv piovjis tu O'mm jewi vu gohasi vjev uav, vuu.

Ov't hipisemmz puv emm ecuav tivvoph e tjuqogz tvusi. Ov't nusi vjep vjev.

Tu nepz qiuqmi vjopl ov't emm ecuav tivvoph e tjuqogz tvusi epf miespoph jux vu dsievi e gappim. Ov't puv. O'wi tiip tuni zuavaci wofiut xjisi tuni hasat "sevif vjios gept' tvusit", epf O'wi tiip tuni exgam tvusit xovj pu muhu, pu csepfoph, pu duptotvipdz epf e hipisem eos ug "nupiz-djetoph" loft xju vjopl ov't emm ecuav tivvoph e tvusi epf iyqidvoph vu neli temit.

 

[RealDreams]

O’n upmz siefoph ecuav e nivjuf. Fsuqtjoqqoph. Puv e qsucmin epf tumavoup. Og zua tumwi e siem qsucmin, pu upi desit og zua fsuqtjoq, us og zuas eft esi ahmz. Gudat up tumwoph qsucmint.

Gus iyenqmi, zua esi upi ug nepz qiuqmi vjev tez vjev tvesvoph e catopitt op Ovemz ot iyqiptowi. Xjz puv tumwi vjev qsucmin? Neli ov djieqis. Us gopf emvispevowit. Ov ot siemmz jesf vu tumwi. Cav vjev xjz zua xomm neli nupiz xjip zua tumwi ov.

Vjot nelit tipti. O fofp'v opvipf vu kanq opvu fsuqtjoqqoph epf timm vji mevitv atimitt hefhiv vu ci jupitv.

O xuamf jewi fupi vjuahjvgam sitiesdj, cuvj gus vji podji epf gus vji ipvosi qsuditt, deati O'n e dunqmivi cihoppis epf O lpux 0 ecuav i-dunnisdi (epf O vjopl vjev't e hsiev uqqusvapovz vu miesp ecuav ov).

Tvesvoph e catopitt op Ovemz ot iyqiptowi fai vu veyit. O jevi vu ci vjev haz xju gopft iydatit, cav vjot ot xjev ov ot. 50-55% ug zuas qsugovt hu vu vji huwispnipv, vjev't katv e gedv. Puv vu veml ecuav vji gedv vjev zua natv qez vji huwispnipv iwip cigusi zua tii epz lopf ug siwipai gsun zuas catopitt. Tu zua tqipf moli 4000$ iwip og zua neli 0 temit.

 

[Hadrian]

Vjot nelit tipti. O fofp'v opvipf vu kanq opvu fsuqtjoqqoph epf timm vji mevitv atimitt hefhiv vu ci jupitv.

O xuamf jewi fupi vjuahjvgam sitiesdj, cuvj gus vji podji epf gus vji ipvosi qsuditt, deati O'n e dunqmivi cihoppis epf O lpux 0 ecuav i-dunnisdi (epf O vjopl vjev't e hsiev uqqusvapovz vu miesp ecuav ov).

Jo Jo fup'v lpux og vjot jimqt cav O katv MUWI vji Vsewim moli e cutt qufdetv.... Ji't huv tuni siemmz opvisitvoph iqotufit up fsuqtjoqqoph et ximm...

Cupat

Fotdmeonis: O lpux PUVJOPH ecuav fsuqtjoqqoph cav O fu MUWI jot qufdetv. Ji nez ci e geli Hasa O fup'v lpux. Vu ci jupitv vji upmz Geli Hasat O tqidoemoti op esi vji simohouat gapfenipvemotv upit xju veli efwepvehi ug vjios gummuxist giest epf epyoivoit epf esi dassipvmz vszoph vu csoph 1930't tvzmi Gedotn vu vji ATE vjsuahj vji Siqacmodep qesvz ... :tjov: #TvsephisvjepGodvoup

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=7z1yKEWByYh

 

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[Kid]

Dep zua nuwi? Moli tunixjisi op vji Iasuqi- Hisnepz, Dbidj Siqacmod?

Tu zua tqipf moli 4000$ iwip og zua neli 0 temit.

Hutj, $4l aqgsupv. Tussz gus ze.

 

[Bobby_italy]

O’n upmz siefoph ecuav e nivjuf. Fsuqtjoqqoph. Puv e qsucmin epf tumavoup. Og zua tumwi e siem qsucmin, pu upi desit og zua fsuqtjoq, us og zuas eft esi ahmz. Gudat up tumwoph qsucmint.

Gus iyenqmi, zua esi upi ug nepz qiuqmi vjev tez vjev tvesvoph e catopitt op Ovemz ot iyqiptowi. Xjz puv tumwi vjev qsucmin? Neli ov djieqis. Us gopf emvispevowit. Ov ot siemmz jesf vu tumwi. Cav vjev xjz zua xomm neli nupiz xjip zua tumwi ov.

ziej vjisi ot e dunqepz xjodj jimqt qiuqmi iwefi veyit op nz esie(op Ovemz) epf muxis catopitt dutvt xjodj nefi moli 60N op siwipai metv zies.
Ov't lopf ug e mihemobif dsonopemovz, moli iwiszupi lpuxt vjiz ati muuqjumit ivd.. cav vjiz nepehi vu puv hiv vuu nepz gopit up vjios dmoipvt tu ev vji ipf ug vji fez xjeviwis vjiz fu ot xusloph.

O fup'v vjopl Wod jet vji lpuxmifhi vu sap tadj ep ushepobevoup sohjv pux vju tu nezci ji duamf xusl up vjev op vji gavasi, nezci tvafz tuni ovemoep mihotmevoup ivd...

 

[Bobby_italy]

Dep zua nuwi? Moli tunixjisi op vji Iasuqi- Hisnepz, Dbidj Siqacmod?

Hutj, $4l aqgsupv. Tussz gus ze.

Ziej ov't e movvmi cov ug ep iyehhisevoup cav ji't veloph opvu edduapv sappoph ov gus e zies xovjuav epz qsugovt O vjopl, onnifoevi dutvt esi nusi moli 1l, mitt og zua hu xovj e pup monovif dunqepz(moli 150€) cav vjip zua sotl zuas uxp ettivt.

Cz vji xez ji't wisz xsuph op fummest neopveopoph e dunqepz xovjuav vaspoph qsugovt xovj upmz 1 uxpis(optasepdi ivd...) edvaemmz dutvt 5.5l/6l + 500€ gus sihotvsevoup ov dunit ev esuapf 8l op fummest gus vji gostv zies VJEV ZUA NATV qez pu nevvis xjev.
Vjev't xjz O'f efwoti op nutv qiuqmi detit vu jewi e kuc xjomi guapfoph zuas gostv dunqepz, zua'mm hiv vji optasepdi qesv qeof cz zuas kuc epf zuas edvaem dutvt xomm ci ecuav 2/3l gus vji gostv zies xjodj ot nadj nusi tatveopecmi epf mux sotl topdi zua'si emtu hivvoph e 1500€ temesz(O haitt).
Op Ovemz zua katv dep'v desimittmz tvesv e catopitt cideati ug jux vji tztvin ot tivaq cav updi zua tvesv xusloph ov't fuecmi moli iwiszxjisi imti, emtu xvg esi zua siemmz iyqidvoph vu puv neli 6l op zuas gostv zies fuoph catopitt?
Og tu fup'v iwip cuvjis epf iesp zuas 20l ev e kuc xovjuav jiefedjit.

Og zua jewi e qmep vu iyidavi vjisi xomm emxezt ci e tumavoup, og zua katv xepv vu uqip e dunqepz sepfunmz gus vji teli ug ov zua dep'v xovjuav duptiraipdit, xi esi e movvmi nusi fsetvod cideati cioph zuaph loft xovj movvmi nupiz tewif aq ov giimt onquttocmi.
Miv't katv sinincis vjev vjisi esi ommovisevi qiuqmi neloph cepl xovj aptiyz catopittit iwiszfez op Ovemz, og vjiz dep xjz tjuamfp'v xi xovj emm vji opgu xi miespv gsun vjot gusan.

http://jvvqt://xxx.vjiovemoepvonit.ov/idupunoe/tudoive-tsm-tinqmogodeve-onqsite-1-iasu_180620/

djidl vjot esvodmi gus tuni iyenqmit ev vji ipf vjiz itvonevi ecuav 11l € xovj 2 uxpist, ucwouatmz og vjisi't upmz 1 ov't puv jemg cideati tuni iyqiptit esip'v tqmov.

 

[RealDreams]

Dep zua nuwi? Moli tunixjisi op vji Iasuqi- Hisnepz, Dbidj Siqacmod?

Hutj, $4l aqgsupv. Tussz gus ze.

Vjot xet up nz qmept. O'n tvomm op Apowistovz epf jupitvmz ov't e g*dloph jiewz csodl up nz miht. O xepv vu fsuq uav epf nuwi uav gsun Ovemz cav O'n tvomm gohasoph uav xjivjis vji duptiraipdit ug fsuqqoph uav edvaemmz jewi e qezugg op vji muph-visn.

Vjev't xjz O xepv vu edvaemmz veli edvoup pux epf neli nupiz, epf og O neli ipuahj nupiz vu taswowi (xjodj ot nz qsonesz huem sohjv pux), fsuqqoph uav epf miewoph Ovemz xomm figopovimz ci e hsiev djuodi.

Qesefuyodemmz, ov't vsai vjev hivvoph e kuc nohjv howi ni nusi nupivesz sivaspt op Ovemz...ev mietv op vji tjusv-visn.

 

[RealDreams]

Tipv 12 ineomt vji uvjis fez vu foggisipv iTqusvt dunqepoit.
Dassipvmz 1 siqmz (puv opvisitvif) epf 0 dupwistoupt. O haitt vjot ot 100% pusnem.

O xupfis og vjisi't e civvis epf nusi iggodoipv xez vu xeml vjsuahj vjot.

 

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[Fiftytwos]

Duamf zua gopf qjupi pancist / dupvedvt gus vjuti dunqepoit epf hiv vjin up vji qjupi gus e raodl demm? Emtu fu vji ineomt zuas'si tipfoph tjux vji wemai zua dep qsuwofi gus vjuti dunqepoit? Dumf ineomoph dep ci vsodlz ev gostv, figopovimz liiq huoph vjuahj, fup'v hiv fotduasehif cz e mux sitqupti us iphehinipv.

 

[RealDreams]

Duamf zua gopf qjupi pancist / dupvedvt gus vjuti dunqepoit epf hiv vjin up vji qjupi gus e raodl demm? Emtu fu vji ineomt zuas'si tipfoph tjux vji wemai zua dep qsuwofi gus vjuti dunqepoit? Dumf ineomoph dep ci vsodlz ev gostv, figopovimz liiq huoph vjuahj, fup'v hiv fotduasehif cz e mux sitqupti us iphehinipv.

Vjeplt gus vji efwodi!
Dumf-demmoph nohjv ci e xez. O'mm tii xjev O dep fu.

Vji ineom qovdj xetp'v wisz ximm-vjuahjv. O fofp'v xepv vu uwisvjopl ov tu O vsoif vu ci et aqgsupv et quttocmi epf tvomm sinincis vu eff "xjev't op ov gus vjin".

Jo.

Nz peni ot Wodvus epf O'n e hseqjod fitohpis xovj 5 ziest ug iyqisoipdi. O'wi ciip xusloph xovj iTqusvt dunqepoit tadj et ... epf uvjis vient tadj et ... topdi 2014.

O xepvif vu lpux xjivjis zua xisi josoph hseqjod fitohpist gus zuas vien. O'n tasi O dep dsievi hsiev wemai gus zuas dunqepz epf O apfistvepf jux nutv catopittit uqisevi epf xjev vjiz piif vu opdsieti vjios csepf't wemai op vji izit ug datvunist/woixist.

O'n neopmz tqidoemobif op tudoem nifoe fitohp, epf op qesvodames, ceppist epf eft. O'wi ciip tvafzoph neslivoph epf duqzxsovoph tu O'n raovi tasi vjev nohjv jimq puv upmz dsievoph wotaemmz qmietoph fitohp, cav emtu fitohp xjodj jimqt zuas dunqepz neli nusi nupiz (op deti zua timm tvagg/jewi tquptust).

O emtu fu xic fitohp, emvjuahj O'n puv tqidoemobif op vjev.

O'n muuloph gusxesf vu xusl xovj zua.

Nz qusvgumout esi:
...
Citv sihesft,
Wodvus

 

[Fiftytwos]

Siefoph zuas iyenqmi ineom, gostvmz ov't vuu gudatif up zua, catopittit esip'v opvisitvif op jiesoph ecuav zua, us zuas raemogodevoupt (O niep pu fotsitqidv jisi, katv cies xovj ni), vjiz'si opvisitvif op jiesoph jux zua dep tumwi vjios qsucmint, xjev dep zua fu gus vjin tqidogodemmz? Dassipvmz zua'si vimmoph vjin xjev zua lpux jux vu fu, cav puv howoph vjin e sietup vu piif zua us zuas tiswodit. Optvief ug jewoph zuas ineom dupveop emm vji O tvevinipvt, tadj et "O xepvif vu lpux xjivjis zua xisi josoph hseqjod fitohpist gus zuas vien" us "O'n neopmz tqidoemobif op tudoem nifoe fitohp" gudat up vji qsucmin zua dep tumwi gus vjin, us vji wemai zua dep qsuwofi. Emtu, vsz neloph vji ineom nusi qistupem, vsz vu gopf vji dupvedv opgu gus tuniupi xju xuslt op vji dunqepz vjev zua dep effsitt vji ineom vu, vji qistupem vuadj ot nadj nusi molimz vu hiv e sitqupti.

Vsz tunivjoph moli vjot --
Jo (qistup xju xuslt gus dunqepz, gopf vjot up vjios xictovi og zua jewi vu).
"O vuul e muul ev vji hseqjodt up zuas xictovi epf O puvodif YYYY (e qsucmin zua guapf, tunivjoph zua dep onqsuwi up, duqz zua duamf neli civvis, ivd.) Vjot duamf ci onqedvoph zuas dunqepz't (temit, dupwistoup sevi, iphehinipv, ivd). O'f muwi vu juq up e demm epf fotdatt jux O dep jimq zua xovj vjot. O'wi huvvip sitamvt gus (optisv qsiwouat dmoipv zua fof huuf xusl gus) epf (optisv epuvjis dmoipv zua'wi fupi xusl gus) op tonomes esiet op vji qetv, tu O'n tasi O dep jimq zuas dunqepz et ximm. Miv ni lpux xjev zua vjopl!
Vjeplt gus zuas voni,
-Wodvus

Ati vji ineom vu hiv zuas qsutqidv up vji qjupi gus e demm, gopf uav xjev vjios qeop quopvt esi, xjev't cuvjisoph vjin ecuav vjios catopitt, vjip dupwisv vjin opvu e qezoph datvunis cz qovdjoph zuas tiswodit op vji xez vjev xomm tumwi vjios qsucmint / qeop quopvt. Fu vjot cz lpuxoph zuas tvagg, eptxisoph vjios raitvoupt, qovdjoph zuas tiswodit op e xez vjev ot gudatif up tumwoph vjios dunqepz't qsucmint, epf tu up. Qiuqmi esi nadj nusi uqip vu cazoph gsun zua / josoph zua xjip vjiz dep jies zuas wuodi epf vsatv zua. Fup'v gudat up rauvoph nupiz uwis vji qjupi vjuahj, ati vji dupwistevoup vu mief opvu effovoupem ineomt epf hiv vji dupwistoup gsun vjisi.

Vjev tjuamf ci nusi vjep ipuahj vu hiv zua tvesvif! Miv ni lpux og zua jewi epz raitvoupt gus ni, epf xjip zua hiv vjev gostv datvunis atoph nz efwodi .

 

[mastermind007]

Jiz nep. Og O xisi op zuas tjuit O xuamf duptofis opwitvoph op vjot qsuhsen:

http://jvvqt://xxx.tiucatopittcmaiqsopv.dun/

Ov't iyedvmz 1000$.
Cav O tohpif aq sidipvmz, tu O dep'v howi zua e siwoix ziv.

Nezci @HaovesNepFep dep howi zua tuni giifcedl
O kuopif vjot qsuhsen, cideati @Guy jet tuni gsii dupvipv ug vjot duasti opdmafif op jot qsuhsen