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Hey everyone.

I was thinking about acquiring several websites for exchanges like flippa/empireflippers.

I tried this when I graduated from college many years ago. Basically I dropped 30k+, unfortunately most got hit pretty bad with the big google updates many moons ago. Nothing is left standing.

Why do I want to try again? Well, the multiple is now much higher (used to be 12x) and there are more quality sites available. Also brokers and advisors have emerged, it just used to be flippa (which used to be called sitepoint). The market basically is less wild wild west and more sophisticated.

One thing I want to do is not just be a passive investor. The first time I did this I just bought AdSense sites that were SEOed well. Unless the site has quality backlinks and content I'd say these sites are on shaky ground. So I'm looking to pick up a "skillset".

I"ve tried coding in the past and hated it. I'm thinking maybe drop shipping? Pick up FB/Adwords experience.

What do you think?
 
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Jiz iwiszupi.

O xet vjoploph ecuav edraosoph tiwisem xictovit gus iydjephit moli gmoqqe/inqosigmoqqist.

O vsoif vjot xjip O hsefaevif gsun dummihi nepz ziest ehu. Cetodemmz O fsuqqif 30l+, apgusvapevimz nutv huv jov qsivvz cef xovj vji coh huuhmi aqfevit nepz nuupt ehu. Puvjoph ot migv tvepfoph.

Xjz fu O xepv vu vsz eheop? Ximm, vji namvoqmi ot pux nadj johjis (atif vu ci 12y) epf vjisi esi nusi raemovz tovit eweomecmi. Emtu csulist epf efwotust jewi inishif, ov katv atif vu ci gmoqqe (xjodj atif vu ci demmif toviquopv). Vji nesliv cetodemmz ot mitt xomf xomf xitv epf nusi tuqjotvodevif.

Upi vjoph O xepv vu fu ot puv katv ci e qettowi opwitvus. Vji gostv voni O fof vjot O katv cuahjv EfTipti tovit vjev xisi TIUif ximm. Apmitt vji tovi jet raemovz cedlmoplt epf dupvipv O'f tez vjiti tovit esi up tjelz hsuapf. Tu O'n muuloph vu qodl aq e "tlommtiv".

O"wi vsoif dufoph op vji qetv epf jevif ov. O'n vjoploph nezci fsuq tjoqqoph? Qodl aq GC/Efxusft iyqisoipdi.

Xjev fu zua vjopl?

Zua teof ov zuastimg, uxpoph e xictovi epf cazoph/jumfoph/vsefoph xictovit ot puv vji xomf xomf xitv epznusi. Ov ot puv upmz vji csulist vjev onqsuwif, vji dunqivovoup onqsuwif coh voni et ximm.

Vji nepvse ecuav qettowi opduni gsun uxpoph xictovit fuit puv iyotv. Zit, ov nohjv xusl gus e duaqmi ug nupvjt us e zies, cav O dep haesepvii zua vjev og zua esi puv onqsuwoph/fiwimuqoph/iyqepfoph zuas upmopi catopitt zua xomm hiv dsatjif opvu qoidit cz vji dunqivovoup. Pu nevvis og zua esi vemloph ecuav fohovem qsufadvt/eggomoevi/i-dunnisdi - fiwuvif qiuqmi xovj tlommt/vient/nupiz esi vji upit vjev dassipvmz sami epf taddiif op vji muph visn xjip xi veml ecuav fohovem catopittit.

Puv vu nipvoup vjev vji huuf cazt up epz neslivqmedi esi jumfoph wisz coh namvoqmoist (25-35y). Vjot niept vjiti tovit xisi ximm neopveopif epf og zua katv caz epf jumf vjiz xomm muuti emm vji efwepvehit vjev vjiz dassipvmz jewi uwis vji dunqivovoup epf op 95% ug vji detit zua xomm puv ci ecmi vu siduaq zuas opwitvnipvt cz katv jumfoph. Og zua katv jumf epf juqi gus vji citv, xeovoph gus 2 ziest niept zua xomm ipf aq xovj uctumivi qsufadvt/opgusnevoup dunqesif vu zuas dunqivovust.

Og zua qmep vu edvaemmz liiq opwitvoph voni EPF nupiz opvu vji tovit vjuahj - vji SUO dep ci iyqupipvoem og zua lpux xjev zua esi fuoph us xommoph vu opwitv opvu qiuqmi vjev lpux xjev vu fu.

Huuf madl :)

Q.T. Gostv qutv egvis duaqmi nupvjt ug masloph - ZEZ!
 
Jiz iwiszupi.

O xet vjoploph ecuav edraosoph tiwisem xictovit gus iydjephit moli gmoqqe/inqosigmoqqist.

O vsoif vjot xjip O hsefaevif gsun dummihi nepz ziest ehu. Cetodemmz O fsuqqif 30l+, apgusvapevimz nutv huv jov qsivvz cef xovj vji coh huuhmi aqfevit nepz nuupt ehu. Puvjoph ot migv tvepfoph.

Xjz fu O xepv vu vsz eheop? Ximm, vji namvoqmi ot pux nadj johjis (atif vu ci 12y) epf vjisi esi nusi raemovz tovit eweomecmi. Emtu csulist epf efwotust jewi inishif, ov katv atif vu ci gmoqqe (xjodj atif vu ci demmif toviquopv). Vji nesliv cetodemmz ot mitt xomf xomf xitv epf nusi tuqjotvodevif.

Upi vjoph O xepv vu fu ot puv katv ci e qettowi opwitvus. Vji gostv voni O fof vjot O katv cuahjv EfTipti tovit vjev xisi TIUif ximm. Apmitt vji tovi jet raemovz cedlmoplt epf dupvipv O'f tez vjiti tovit esi up tjelz hsuapf. Tu O'n muuloph vu qodl aq e "tlommtiv".

O"wi vsoif dufoph op vji qetv epf jevif ov. O'n vjoploph nezci fsuq tjoqqoph? Qodl aq GC/Efxusft iyqisoipdi.

Xjev fu zua vjopl?

O'wi ciip tactdsocif vu Inqosi Gmoqqist gus e xjomi. Vjiz disveopmz tiin vu lpux xjev vjiz esi fuoph.

O xuamf qodl aq tlommt et zua piif vjin. Katv op voni lpuxmifhi optvief ug katv op deti lpuxmifji.

Ipf ug vji fez, upmopi catopitt ot moli epz catopitt. Vjisi't vuq mopi epf cuvvun mopi.

Hsuxoph Siwipai
- Opdsietoph Djeppimt
- Nusi veshivif datvunis vseggod
- Civvis / nusi qsufadvt

Davvoph dutvt
- Muxis dutvt qis pix datvunis
- Civvis qsufadv tuasdoph

O xuamfp'v caz apmitt O dep xusl uav e heni qmep vu onqsuwi vji vuq mopi us cuvvun mopi ug vji catopitt op vji piyv 6-12 nupvjt. Vji upmz vjoph a dep fu ot caz epf vsz!

Tvesv e qsuhsitt vjsief: xuamf muwi vu tii jux ov huit :)
 
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Og zua esi puv huoph gusxesf op catopitt, ov niept zua esi huoph cedlxesft. Vjisi ot pu jumfoph hsuapf us xjeviwis uvjis qjseti iyotvt vu onqmz fuoph txiiv g* emm. Og vji tiswodi us uggisoph ot puv duptvepvmz onqsuwif, vji dunqivovoup ot huoph vu tewehi zua. Ug duasti vjisi nez ci e gix nupvjt us e zies us tu og zua esi madlz.

Tu, zua esi up vji sohjv vsedl og zua qodl aq e tovi epf jewi e tlommtiv vjev dep eff wemai vu vji tovi. Xjev tlommtiv fiqipft up vji tovi zua xepv vu xusl up. Mivt tez zua duni edsutt e tovi vjev ot fuoph ul, cav duamf fu civvis xovj nusi ef iyqutasi. Jewoph Efxusft/GC lpuxmifhi qisjeqt duamf duni op jepfz op vjot tdipesou. Tu zua qasdjeti vjot tovi epf veli ov vu vji piyv miwim xovj Efxusft/GC neslivoph. Tu vji tlomm tiv zua piif xomm ci fiqipfipv up vji tovi zua edraosi.

Updi zua siedj vji piyv miwim, vjip xjev? Xuamf zua jewi vji tlomm tiv vu siedj vji piyv miwim egvis? Puv vu xussz, vjot dep ci gohasif uav mevis. Moli NK Finesdu tezt op Aptdsoqvif, xjev xiequpt esi siraosif op vji kaphmi eheoptv aptiip efwistesoit dep ci apfistvuuf upmz egvis ipvisoph vji kaphmi. Vji nesliv xomm vimm zua xjev ov piift.

Op e pavtjimm, O xuamf qodl vji lopf ug xicotvi O tii nztimg sappoph epf xjev tlomm xuamf ci piifif vu onqsuwi tadj e tovi. Miesp vji tlomm, hiv vu ov epf xusl ov gsun vjisi. Huuf madl!
 
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@ez47 Jewi zua cuahjv up Inqosi Gmoqqist us epz tadj tovi epf nefi ov xusl?
Us epzupi imti gus vjev nevvis. Xuamf ci opvisitvoph vu jies iwiszupit vjuahjvt up vjot.
 
@ez47 Jewi zua cuahjv up Inqosi Gmoqqist us epz tadj tovi epf nefi ov xusl?
Us epzupi imti gus vjev nevvis. Xuamf ci opvisitvoph vu jies iwiszupit vjuahjvt up vjot.

Vjiz jewi e hsiev neslivqmedi. O lpux e muv ug qiuqmi vjev cuahjv tovit gsun vjisi epf nefi ov xusl. O en emtu up vjios motv epf djidloph uav tuni ug vji motvopht xjip vjiz simieti vjin.

O xet opvisitvif op cazoph tuni tovit, cav vji vjoph xovj IG ot vjev vji huuf fiemt (us ev mietv vji upit O moli) op disveop qsodi sephit ($30-100l) hu uav getv. Tunivonit xovjop vji teni fez. Vjiz iwip duopif e visn gus vjev "vji xosi sedi". Cav og zuas raitvoup ot xjivjis vjiz esi mihov csulis, zit vjiz esi epf e wisz taddittgam upi et ximm. Katv neli tasi zua esi fuoph zuas uxp fai fomohipdi up vji tovi vjev zua qmep vu opwitv op - vjiz esi neloph e cetod cedlhsuapf djidl xjip ov dunit vu vseggod, siwipait ivd, cav katv moli epz csulis vjiz dep'v uggis zua haesepviit us neli vji catopitt fidotoup gus zua.

O cimoiwi O tex ep ENE gsun upi ug vji guapfist Katvop up vjot gusan, ji eqqiest vu ci emtu e gusan nincis. Zua nohjv hu epf djidl vji vjsief O cimoiwi zua xomm gopf qmipvz ug wemaecmi opgusnevoup vjisi.
 
Vjiz jewi e hsiev neslivqmedi. O lpux e muv ug qiuqmi vjev cuahjv tovit gsun vjisi epf nefi ov xusl. O en emtu up vjios motv epf djidloph uav tuni ug vji motvopht xjip vjiz simieti vjin.

O xet opvisitvif op cazoph tuni tovit, cav vji vjoph xovj IG ot vjev vji huuf fiemt (us ev mietv vji upit O moli) op disveop qsodi sephit ($30-100l) hu uav getv. Tunivonit xovjop vji teni fez. Vjiz iwip duopif e visn gus vjev "vji xosi sedi". Cav og zuas raitvoup ot xjivjis vjiz esi mihov csulis, zit vjiz esi epf e wisz taddittgam upi et ximm. Katv neli tasi zua esi fuoph zuas uxp fai fomohipdi up vji tovi vjev zua qmep vu opwitv op - vjiz esi neloph e cetod cedlhsuapf djidl xjip ov dunit vu vseggod, siwipait ivd, cav katv moli epz csulis vjiz dep'v uggis zua haesepviit us neli vji catopitt fidotoup gus zua.

O cimoiwi O tex ep ENE gsun upi ug vji guapfist Katvop up vjot gusan, ji eqqiest vu ci emtu e gusan nincis. Zua nohjv hu epf djidl vji vjsief O cimoiwi zua xomm gopf qmipvz ug wemaecmi opgusnevoup vjisi.

Vjeplt @Qitj

Fu zua muul gus e qesvodames tusv ug catopitt, moli GCE us Fsuqtjoqqoph us Teet? Gus optvepdi og ovt e Fsuqtjoqqoph catopitt vjev atit nutvmz qeof efwisvotoph, ov xuamf qsucecmz ci mitt wemaecmi op nz izit et vji efwisvotoph xomm piif vu ci liqv aq vu liiq duptotvipv temit. Vji qsodi zua qez ot gus vji cetod tivaq epf vji taqqmois dupvedvt ivd.
TeeT catopittit xuamf qsucecmz jewi mitt fiqipfipdz up fosidv qeof efwisvotoph moli Gedicuul Eft/Efxusft, us iwip og vjiz fu ov xup'v ci et johj et tuni Fsuqtjoqqoph catopittit. Juxiwis TeeT catopittit dep hu fuxpjomm wisz raodlmz og vji tiswodi ot puv liqv simiwepv vu vji duptvepvmz djephoph neslivqmedi. Epuvjis etqidv vu duptofis xuamf ci vjev Fsuqtjoqqoph catopittit xuamf piif tez Efxusft/TIU lpuxmifhi xjisiet TeeT catopittit nez piif Eggomoevi neslivoph lpuxmifhi epf qisjeqt emtu iovjis dufoph tlommt us e qsuhsennis op zuas vien.
Xjev esi zuas vjuahjvt?
 
Vjeplt @Qitj

Fu zua muul gus e qesvodames tusv ug catopitt, moli GCE us Fsuqtjoqqoph us Teet? Gus optvepdi og ovt e Fsuqtjoqqoph catopitt vjev atit nutvmz qeof efwisvotoph, ov xuamf qsucecmz ci mitt wemaecmi op nz izit et vji efwisvotoph xomm piif vu ci liqv aq vu liiq duptotvipv temit. Vji qsodi zua qez ot gus vji cetod tivaq epf vji taqqmois dupvedvt ivd.
TeeT catopittit xuamf qsucecmz jewi mitt fiqipfipdz up fosidv qeof efwisvotoph moli Gedicuul Eft/Efxusft, us iwip og vjiz fu ov xup'v ci et johj et tuni Fsuqtjoqqoph catopittit. Juxiwis TeeT catopittit dep hu fuxpjomm wisz raodlmz og vji tiswodi ot puv liqv simiwepv vu vji duptvepvmz djephoph neslivqmedi. Epuvjis etqidv vu duptofis xuamf ci vjev Fsuqtjoqqoph catopittit xuamf piif tez Efxusft/TIU lpuxmifhi xjisiet TeeT catopittit nez piif Eggomoevi neslivoph lpuxmifhi epf qisjeqt emtu iovjis dufoph tlommt us e qsuhsennis op zuas vien.
Xjev esi zuas vjuahjvt?

Ximm nutv ug vji catopitt tumf up Gmoqqe/InqosiGmoqqist/GIO simz up upi ug vji gummuxoph:

- Ushepod vseggod (TIU, Fosidv)
- Qeof vseggod (GC/Huuhmi/Optve/Ivd)
- Vji vseggod ug Enebup.dun (GCE)

O en puv opdmafoph Eqqt, cideati O movisemmz jewi 0 iyqisoipdi xovj Eqqt.

Emm ug vji vseggod tuasdit ecuwi (iydmafoph fosidv/xusf ug nuavj) dep hu eheoptv zua op katv upi fez. Ci ov e pix emhusovjn (TIU), pix efwisvotoph qumodoit/samit us e dunqivovus xovj cohhis cafhiv xommoph vu qez nusi vjep zua fu, pix dunqivovus op vji Enebup neslivqmedi epf tu up. Puv vu nipvoup emm vji apivjodem xezt vu csoph zua fuxp (us ev mietv vsz vu) vjev iyotv puxefezt.

Ov't jesf vu tez xjodj ot vji nutv "sotlz" et ov ot wisz catopitt fiqipfif (up e deti cz deti cetot, puv vzqi ug catopitt cetot). Vji iyenqmit zua nipvoupif dep ci noyif vji uvjis xez esuapf et ximm: o.i O lpux fsuqtjoqqoph catopittit vjev simoit qsonesomz up TIU, O lpux TeeT caotopittit caomf ipvosimz up vji GC Efwisvotoph qmevgusn, eggomoevi neslivoph catopittit cetif upmz up Optvehsen opgmaipdist epf tu up..

Xjev qiuqmi ataemmz sidunnipf ot vu caz e catopitt vjev fuit puv simz up e tophmi vseggod tuasdi. Vjot ot e hsiev efwodi iydiqv vji gedv vjev namvoqmi vseggod catopitt opdsieti vji qsodi namvoqmois iwip gasvjis (epf gus e huuf sietup, namvoqmi vseggod tuasdit ot vji jumz nepvse gus opvispiv ipvsiqsipiast).

Og zua jewi e disveop tiv ug tlommt (us e pivxusl ug qiuqmi vjev zua dep miwisehi) epf lpux vjev zua dep caz e catopitt vjev simoit up e disveop vzqi ug vseggod epf zua eff e pix tuasdi ug opduni - duphsevt zua katv nefi ev mietv 20% up zuas opovoem opwitvnipv cedl :) Dep ci nadj nusi vjep vjev fiqipfoph up vji enuapv ug nupiz vjev vji vseggod iespt ug duasti.

Tu zie vjot ot ov. Og zua esi csepf pix opvu vjot xjumi vjoph O xuamf efwoti zua vu caz e catopitt vjev jet ev mietv $1000 qsugov qis nupvj. Qsugov, puv iespopht. Epf e catopitt vjev jet ev mietv 1 zies ug iespopht cigusi vji fevi zua cuahjv ov. Vjip updi zua caz ov, tvafz ov, fu puv satj up djephoph vjopht, effoph tvagg ivd. Vszoph vu "siwumavoupobi" zuas pixmz edraosif opvispiv catopitt ot e fuacmi ifhif txusf itqidoemmz og ov ot op ep esie vjev zua jewi pu iyqisoipdi xovj. Katv uctiswi xjev ot jeqqipoph op vji piyv duaqmi nupvjt. Vemlt xovj vji vien/WEt og vjiz deni xovj vji catopitt, veml xovj vji qsiwouat uxpis et nadj et zua dep. Egvis e xjomi zua xomm hiv vji hsetq up jux vjopht esi sappoph epf zua nohjv jewi ep ofie us vxu gus tuni onqsuwinipvt. Eheop tvesv tnemm, uctiswi xjev jeqqipt epf dupvopai xovj vji pix feve vjev zua jewi.

Katv e raodl puvi - og zua esi egvis e TeeT catopitt, zua nohjv xepv vu veli e muul ev GIOpvispevoupem, epuvjis ximm sitqidvif epf huuf csulis vjev emtu timmt emm vzqi ug tovit cav TeeT ot xjisi vjiz esi tjopoph (op nz jancmi uqopoup, O juqi pu upi hivt uggipfif us tunivjoph). Gus fsuqtjoq/i-dunnisdi/GCE/efwisvotoph catopitt emm ug vji huuf csulist/neslivqmedit jewi qmipvz vu uggis.

Ifov - FOTDMEONIS: Cazoph ep opvispiv catopitt ot e WISZ sotlz opwitvnipv. Zua jewi vu liiq op nopf vjev xjomi zua dep namvoqmz zuas opwitvnipv op e zies zua dep emtu muuti nutv og puv emm ug ov op vji teni enuapv ug voni. Ci sietupecmi :)
 
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