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GOLD! How To Find (Non-Public) Email Addresses

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    I needed to contact a senior level executive at a professional sports franchise today. As you can imagine, their contact information isn't out there for public consumption. Email is the quickest and most effective way to get someone's attention, especially if their email address is hard to get! Direct hit.

    Step 1. Simply call their office. Ask the receptionist. He/She might give it to you. She might transfer you. Ask the next person. You might have to explain (in one sentence or two) the purpose. Make it beneficial. She might give it to you. She might not.

    Step 2. LinkedIn - see if by some miracle of God they listed their contact information on LinkedIn

    Step 3. And the most FREQUENT way to cause a direct hit, is by searching for corollary email addresses. corollary means like one that is provided elsewhere.

    Here are a few examples :


    • Then I know that Mr.Big would probably be FredB@chicagocubs.com. I am looking for the pattern of how they encode their emails.


    Step 4. Many times, organizations use email addresses with different extensions than their web sites. McDonalds might not use a McDonalds.com for their email addresses, specifically because they don't want randoms emailing their executive teams. Find the pattern.

    Step 5. Some times, executives use their real email addresses in affiliation to charities they volunteer for, community service projects, or even church email bulletins. A Google search can sometimes yield a deep hidden result. If you search for Sally Smith Chicago Cubs email, you might find her email address in a .PDF put out by the American Red Cross for some charity work Sally does with one of their committees.

    In today's result, I got a DIRECT HIT, and was fortunate enough to even get an auto responder that the guy was out of the office for today, indicating/confirming to me that I got the right address.

    You can find it. Don't stop at the first road block. The harder the barriers to entry, the better you will be when you figure out how to navigate past them.
     
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    This strategy works great, I've gotten in touch, and had meetings with many high ranking people in the world of Investment Banking, technology and more.

    I'd add that if you're email goes through and you don't get an answer, follow up once a week until you get an answer. Make sure the follow up email shows your awareness of their busyness, and that you wanted to "help out" in following up.

    If I didn't follow up on many of emails, my success rate would have been cut more than in half.
     
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    You can also bcc every single variation of their name+last name in one email.
     
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    By the way, this OP and concept yielded a meeting with one of the biggest names in all of professional sports. I can't share the details, but I can tell you that the process works exactly as described.

    Cut through all of the bullshit, and bypass all of the gatekeepers.
     
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    Caitlyn?
     
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    So many possible comments.

    Not the least of which is why your mind went there first...
     
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    Incredible actionable advice, marked GOLD. Thank you for the techniques.
     
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    Thanks MJ. I was just talking with a large company today, who is going to use this model to teach their sales people how to knock down walls.

    @Kung Fu Steve you might like this technique
     
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    As an addition to step 3. There's a plugin called rapportative for gmail you can use and sometimes find that their corporate email is connected to their LinkedIn account.

    They explain here: http://life-longlearner.com/find-email-addresses/


    Tapatalk を使用して私の SPH-L720 から送信
     
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    I was doing it the same way when collecting contact details. It's a lot of work so I made sure I collected those contacts who would possibly yield a good profit.

    As a side effect you'll end up with a lot of additional xls and pdf files and web-based directories that you may use for cold-emailing (check regulations for spam. I always removed personal looking addresses). Had someone to combine these in a nice & tidy excel sheet, remove duplicates and those addresses that you already have in your CRM or email list, that was all. Then sent intro emails about the actual business I was in. I did it with conference organizing and also when offering services. Got some clients from there but a lot emails were dead emails or undeliverable. After 2-3 messages I blacklisted the non-openers.
     
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    Here's a bit more ammunition...

    I've done a ton of lead gen and used this technique for awhile now, it's always lead me to great results.

    1. Email Permutator

    Use the Email Permutator spreadsheet (with formulas) add the First name, Last name and root Domain name of your target:

    https://docs.google.com/a/monikerjo...mNyoMaF6MInqMbuenoWnm94wRs8g/edit?usp=sharing

    (it's read only, so "File --> Make a Copy" to your own account to use it)

    Now you have a huge list of potential emails.

    2. Verify

    Download and install the Rapportive Add-On: http://rapportive.com/

    With Rapportive flipped on, compose a new email. Copy & paste your big list of emails into it.

    Hover your mouse of each address. If it's a valid email, you should see your targets info popup in the Reportive side bar.

    Have fun! :)
     
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    Saw this at a conference I went to earlier this month, haven't used it but seemed impressive for email prospecting: http://pitchbox.com/
     
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    Here is another tip. Say you need to talk to someone at a company, but you don't even know what their name is. Go on LinkedIn, and then search for all employees at that company. Filter all the employees by Geographic region to filter down to the location you need to know about. Then scroll through all the people. If you are lucky it'll say their name and their title. Sometimes though, it doesn't say the person's name, just their title.

    Then open up incognito mode of your browser of choice (which effectively logs you out of LinkedIn without actually having to log out) and then copy and paste the persons title and the word "LinkedIn" into google. Like "Manager of Plant Operations as FLF LinkedIn".

    The results that show up will show you the person's name, even if it blocked it out when you were logged in.
     
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    I think you're underselling the content of the email/pitch just a little mate lol.

    ETA - I believe there are a few quality email verifying programs, apparently some good free ones too, though, full disclosure I've not used any of them.
     
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    OK so just a bit of info from the other end

    My job is a senior level role at a big company (30k+ employees). My email address is not difficult to find out, and I have Linkedin profile as well with my job information, company, position (no contact details there). I never read such emails, but delete all without reading. Even the follow-ups. The assistants and reception are all trained to filter such emails and calls as well. Some PAs read the executive's emails and automatically move those nuissance emails to a never-read folder in outlook.

    So if you don't get a response for a long while, look for someone else within the company or check whether you are targeting the right department at all. With good insights to the company's activity you can tailor your pitch and maybe hit the bulls eye and offer something that resolves a big problem there. Look at press releases, get to know the industry inside-out, and really focus on something specific.

    The "Dear XY, we are offering YZ services with 10 years experience / have a software... can we discuss it on the phone" is not reaching the threshold.

    Most big companies have set procedures for finding new partners, and when they are looking for someone new, they are not looking through emails or start googleing, but look what others do (with whom they work with), or hire a consultant company and they'll make recommendations. Especially when the industry is highly regulated.

    This may be very different across industries, this is my experience only.
     
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    You should read Predictable Revenue by Aaron Ross.
     
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    Phone work is my weakness by far. I'm working on it every day.

    This training here has helped me more than anything:

     
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    A little horizontal to the OP, but here's a tip for finding decision maker names & contact info for small businesses when not listed elsewhere.

    • Google the company.
    • If they have a website, copy the domain.
    • Visit www.whois.com
    • Paste domain in WHOIS search box & click search.
    • Now you get a list of the website admin's info including name, address, phone number.
    • Sometimes it also gives you their private email. The email they registered the domain with.

    Most small businesses that build their own website don't buy private domain services because it costs extra money.

    This is useful for times you have an address and phone number but no name to work with.

    Or maybe you have a website and name, but no number etc.

    The reason this isn't a first resort is because businesses that do use privacy service won't show accurate info.

    I used it this morning to find the name of a local business owner I'm calling today. :)
     
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    I will be sharing a private first hand WIN regarding the OP at the upcoming Fastlane Summit in Scottsdale.
     
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    You can also find personal emails (which is sometimes better than the person's corporate email) through Facebook. Take my facebook account for example, and go to my profile. Now, look at the URL. It should be a combinations of the person's name and some random numbers. (mine is facebook.com/matthew.sonnier.94). Now, pull up your email and in the TO: box, type everything after the slash@facebook.com (mine would be matthew.sonnier.94@facebook.com). Doing this will send an email to whatever email that person uses for their facebook.
     
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    Violated my own strategy this morning.

    Cold called a company, and ran myself STRAIGHT into the gatekeeper.

    I had done zero homework before I made the call, my own arrogance causing me to disregard my own shortcuts.

    So, 90 miles an hour straight into the gatekeeper.

    "Who owns XYZ company?"

    "What?"

    "Who is the president of your company?"

    "Mr. Smith."

    "Can I get his email address?"

    "We don't give out email addresses, but you can send your information to this generic bullshit email address, and it will get routed to the right person."

    OK. Um. Thanks. BYE.

    Hang up. Google the name, find the direct contact information (which is what I should have done the FIRST TIME) and then engage.

    I will still get to the end goal, but I wasted time in an awkward conversation that was completely unnecessary if I would have just done my homework on the front side.

    In 30 seconds, I found the direct contact information online.

    Some gatekeeper.
     
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    Interesting tool, thank you! Now I've got an excel copy for future reference.
     
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