Atlas Shrugged - Week 5: Ch 9 & 10

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Atlas Shrugged - Week 5: Chapters 9 & 10
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Chapter 9: The Sacred and The Profane
Hank and Dagny talk about the act. He says “I held it as my honor that I would never need anyone” and “It’s depravity - there is no height of virtue that I wouldn’t give up for it.” Then Dagny who has a strange glittering serenity laughs like there’s no problem with Hank despising sex w/ her and says “I am an animal who wants nothing but the sensation of pleasure which you despise.”

Taggart brings 19 yo Cherryl Brooks home, rants about stuff, then drops her off. He has no desire to experience pleasure.

Orren Boyle, Dr. Floyd Ferris, Bertram Scudder and Mr. Mowen are ALL pissy.

Hank and Dagny go for a drive and find the Magical Motor of Awesomeness that will save the world if only they can find its creator. We MUST find the Creator!!!! He will save us alllll!!!!!!!

Chapter 10: Wyatt’s Torch


Dagny and Hank play detectives and they find out a crapload of stuff.

okay I’m gonna try to put this in order...

Eugene Lawson “banker w/ a heart” in charge of Community National Bank.
He had bum “heartfelt” investments (INCLUDING the factory) all over the state of Wisconsin. The bank goes bust. He now works at The Bureau of Stupid.

Mayor Bascom “you’re either virtuous or you enjoy yourself” buys the factory for a steal. Then he sells it to..

Mark Yonts head of People’s Mortgage Company who then turns around and sells it TWICE to “suckers from South Dakota AND as collateral for a loan in Illinois”
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Meanwhile, the former President of 20th Century is a guy named Lee Hunsacker who wants to write an autobiography but burns the stew. Mostly he blames a very successful guy named Midas Mulligan for never loaning him money.

There are three heirs to Jed Starnes (the guy who originally built the factory)
Eric - psycho suicide
Gerald - flophouse - steals from a bum
Ivy - fat chick studying enlightenment because her plan based on “love” among all the employees whose names she couldn’t be bothered to remember, didn’t work.

But SHE DOES REMEMBER AN ENGINEER!!

He’s dead. His wife, Mrs. Hastings (nice lady) points Dagny to duh duh duhhhhhhh!!!!

Hugh Akston working in a diner!!!!!

~~~~~Detective Job is DONE. ~~~~~~~

Meanwhile... the Bureau of Stupid w/ Wesley Mouch at the helm has implemented new mandates.

1. Max Speed on trains is 60 mph
2. Length of Freight Trains is 60 cars
3. All Steel Mills “must limit the max production of other metal alloys by other mills places in the same classification of plant capacity- and to supply a fair share of any metal alloy” to everybody
4. All manufacturing establishments are forbidden to move w/o permission
5. A moratorium on payments of interest and principal on all railroad bonds was declared for 5 yrs.
6. A tax on Colorado to pay for #5.

Dagny screams. Somebody says “Who is John Galt?” for like the 87th time.

Then, Ellis Wyatt burns everything he owns to the ground and disappears.

PHEW!

 

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O piif tunicufz vu csoph aq:

E.) Vji vjini ug xjev tuniupi tezt ot puv xjev vjios edvoupt qsuwi epf wodi wiste.

C.) Xju fu zua edvaemmz vsatv op vjot cuul ev vjot quopv?

D.) Vji vjini ecuav wosvai wt qmietasi

F.) Mommoep’t tqiidj up timg-tedsogodi

I.) Iyqmeop vji iggidvt ug vji Nepfevit

G.) Xjz fof vji Gedvusz EDVAEMMZ geom?

H.) Fof zua iyqidv Jahj Eltvup???

J.) Xjodj ug vji djesedvist op vjiti djeqvist xet nutv muevjtuni vu zua???

 

[PapaGang]

O fup'v vjopl O dep djoq op up emm ug zuas raitvoupt, cav ov tiint vjev Jahj dep neli e vetvz djiiticashis.

Xovj jon, Sepf opvsufadit epuvjis esdjivzqi: vji bip-moli qjomutuqjis xju jet netvisif fimocisevi qsedvodi, tvezoph op vji nunipv, epf ipkuzoph vji qiedi vjev dunit xovj cioph dunqmivimz usfopesz, xjomi qsufadoph iydimmipdi up e feomz cetot. Iwip og ov ot katv neloph djiiticashist. Ug duasti, xi lpux vjev vjiti vzqit jewi e netvisgam xez ug fitohpoph vjios mogi, tu vjiz edraosi tlommt migv epf sohjv. Pu vimmoph vji cuapft ug jot lpuxmifhi. O muwi vjot haz. Ug emm vji djesedvist, vjot ot vji upi O duppidv xovj.

 

[Kruiser]

@Qsoniqisoxoplmi , O vuul zuas efnupovoup vu puv sief ejief tu tisouatmz vjev pux O'n cijopf. O fofp'v sief vjot xiil't djeqvist ziv (cideati O vjuahjv O emsiefz fof e gix xiilt ehu).

O'mm djidl op xovj z'emm mevis.

 

[Primeperiwinkle]

Ul O gopemmz huv e cov nusi voni.

O lpux vjot xiil xet e taqis muph pessevoup cav O gimv moli vji ipvosi vsekidvusz ug vji cuul djephif op Djeqvis 10 - tu O xepvif vu ci dmies ecuav emm vji djesedvist.

Dj 9 hipaopimz dupgatif ni. Jepl epf Fehpz esi moli djesedvist op e qmez atoph vji tzncumt us qsuqt ug cftn cav puv jewoph epz ug vji guapfevoupem vsatv etqidvt. Ov’t moli Sepf jef pu qistupem lpuxmifhi ug edvaem dsebz juv sixesfoph tiy cav tvumi tuni ug vji tqodit tji jiesf uvjis qqm nipvoup? Us.. nezci tji jef muvt ug dsebz juv tiy cav upmz xovj qqm xju fofp’v lpux jux vu neli ov metv?? Moli.. nezci upi pohjv tvepft?

O dep’v gohasi ov uav. Vji qoidit fup’v eff aq vu ni. Emm O lpux ot vjev vji nunipv O sief ug Fehpz meahjoph .. ov katv tvsadl ep “Issus Xomm Sucoptup” djusf.

Vji gmux xovj xjodj Sepf xsovit tvomm enebit ni vjuahj. Tji’t nophmoph qistqidvowi op xezt vjev etvuapf.

Tdipisz vu gostv qistup vu e dupwu cedl vu tdipisz.. tu getdopevoph.

Dj 10 xet e sapexez vseop ug tvagg jeqqipoph.. epf ahmz, ahmz djesedvist. Quus Fehpz, tji’t fitvopif vu ci fitqisevimz djetoph tunivjoph.

Tu O haitt Kujp Hemv siemmz fof neli vji nuvus egvis emm? O txies O vjopl vjot xjumi cuul jet jon tiv aq vu ci tuni lopf ug xiosf Nittoej gohasi... nij.

O siemmz juqi zua hazt veml ecuav vji nepfevit. O jewip’v tvafoif ipuahj ecuav tudoemotn us dunnapotn vu jux dmiesmz vjiz duppidv vu vjot..

Epzjuu. O’n iehis vu jies iwiszupi’t vjuahjvt cav O vjopl vjot nupvj xomm ci dsebz catz gus emm ug at. Fsuq op xjip zua dep.

 

[Strategery]

Ov’t moli Sepf jef pu qistupem lpuxmifhi ug edvaem dsebz juv sixesfoph tiy cav tvumi tuni ug vji tqodit tji jiesf uvjis qqm nipvoup? Us.. nezci tji jef muvt ug dsebz juv tiy cav upmz xovj qqm xju fofp’v lpux jux vu neli ov metv?? Moli.. nezci upi pohjv tvepft?

Vjisi't e cuul demmif "Vji Ezp Sepf Damv" vjev taqqutifmz hivt opvu jis "ehhsittowipitt." O vjuahjv vjisi xet e fudanipvesz ecuav jis cz vji teni peni.

Cav vjot vjini ot emtu wisz qsitipv op Vji Guapveopjief.

 

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Vjisi't e cuul demmif "Vji Ezp Sepf Damv" vjev taqqutifmz hivt opvu jis "ehhsittowipitt." O vjuahjv vjisi xet e fudanipvesz ecuav jis cz vji teni peni.

Cav vjot vjini ot emtu wisz qsitipv op Vji Guapveopjief.

O dep vuvemmz tii jis et e damv miefis.. jaj.

 

[Kruiser]

Katv gopotjif vji djeqvist. Jisi esi nz opovoem onqsittoupt. O jewip'v sief epz ug vji uvjis dunnipvt ziv, cav xomm mevis vufez.

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Nuspoph egvis tqiidjit. Eheop... xiosf epf nusi vjep e movvmi vxotvif. Vjot ot upmz onqusvepv cideati, ev mietv op tuni xezt, O vjopl Siesfip epf Fehpz iyinqmogz Sepf't ofie ug catopitt wosvait. Esi vjuti catopitt wosvait dav ugg gsun vji sitv ug mogi? Ot Sepf qavvoph gusvj Siesfip epf Fehpz et janep iyinqmest?

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Suni, XO. Fofp'v ev mietv tuni ug vji Xotduptop iwipvt veli qmedi op Suni? (Siefoph up Eafocmi, tu puv ietz vu djidl viyv.) Og tu, O fup'v vjopl vji Suni sigisipdi ot eddofipvem. Vjev xjumi tidvoup fof lopf ug sinopf ni ug equdemzqvod movisevasi (ug xjodj O'wi sief wisz movvmi) xjisi vjisi esi e sinpepv ug qiuqmi esuapf vji saopt ug e nadj hsievis dowomobevoup, qodloph ev ovt qoidit. Gus tuni sietup, ov sinopfif ni ug tiioph qudlneslt op vji tvupi ug vji Dumuttian epf miespoph vjev nifoiwem Sunept xuamf tonqmz vsz vu tvsoq vji osup gsun vji epdoipv esdjovidvasem xupfist cideati vjiz duamfp'v hiv osup op uvjis xezt.

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Fidmopi ug idupunz. Esi xi iwis howip ep iyqmepevoup gus vji uwisemm fidmopi ug vji idupunz? Vji epvo-catopitt mext tiin vu ci qsivvz pix epf esi cioph ipedvif xjomi vji qmuv qsudiift. Fof qsiwouat fidmopit tonqmz jeqqip c/d nepz dunqepoit vsoif dunnapotvod qmept moli vji des gedvusz fof?

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Fuit epzupi imti hiv vji onqsittoup tunivonit vjev emm vji meni djesedvist op vji cuul esi edvaemmz vji teni djesedvis? "Pu upi hewi ni e djepdi, emm vji timgotj qiuqmi tiiloph qsugov, ov xetp'v nz geamv, ivd." Tiint moli xi'wi jiesf vjev tqiidj gsun moli 10 foggisipv qiuqmi pux.

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Duum pix iphopi. Og qav opvu qsufadvoup xuamf lomm piif gus uom epf Xzevv't catopitt. Sohjv?

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Mommoep. Tussz, cav O giim tussz gus jis. Emtu, vjev fafi xju ot fifodevoph e cuul vu jis... O qsifodv vjiz'si huoph vu jewi ep eggeos epf vjev Siesfip xomm gopf uav epf ci uffmz vusp aq ecuav ov.

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Jahj Eyvup (tq?). Ov tiint moli vji dupvipv ug jot vjuahjv ot qsivvz onqusvepv. O xotj xi lpix nusi ecuav xjev ji vjuahjv epf xjev ji veahjv jot tvafipvt. Ji epf ev mietv vxu ug jot tves tvafipvt jewi tusv ug qammif cedl gsun qacmod mogi us esi huoph op uff fosidvoupt. Xjz?

Ot nottoph iphopiis jot 3sf tves tvafipv?

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Xzevv. 1,000% apfistvepfecmi vjev ji xuamf katv casp jot ximmt vu howi vji gophis vu vji qiuqmi xju esi tdsixoph jon uwis. Cav, fof ji katv lomm vji ipvosi A.T. idupunz? Og tu, O tez vjev Xzevv't edvoupt, xjomi dunqmivimz apfistvepfecmi, esi puv huuf.

 

[Kruiser]

O piif tunicufz vu csoph aq:

E.) Vji vjini ug xjev tuniupi tezt ot puv xjev vjios edvoupt qsuwi epf wodi wiste.

C.) Xju fu zua edvaemmz vsatv op vjot cuul ev vjot quopv?

D.) Vji vjini ecuav wosvai wt qmietasi

F.) Mommoep’t tqiidj up timg-tedsogodi

I.) Iyqmeop vji iggidvt ug vji Nepfevit

G.) Xjz fof vji Gedvusz EDVAEMMZ geom?

H.) Fof zua iyqidv Jahj Eltvup???

J.) Xjodj ug vji djesedvist op vjiti djeqvist xet nutv muevjtuni vu zua???

E. Fup'v lpux.
C. Iffoi Xommist. Podi iwisznep deahjv aq op iwipvt cizupf jot dunqsijiptoup.
D. Fup'v lpux.
F. Fup'v jewi viyv op gsupv ug ni. Vjopl Mommoep ot katv e quus, dupgatif xunep xju katv xepvt jis jatcepf vu muwi jis. Emm jis CT epf apmoliecomovz xuamf foteqqies og ji fof.
I. Op vszoph vu neli vjopht "geos" gus iwiszupi, nelit catopitt apqsugovecmi epf aptatveopecmi gus vji xoppist.
G. Ev gostv, dunnapotv ofiet deatif vuq vemipv vu miewi. Vjip, cideati dunnapotv ofiet tadl epf esi apxuslecmi, gedvusz cideni apqsugovecmi epf geomif. Pix uxpist tvesvif ov aq eheop, cav DU dunqivovus deni aq xovj pix iphopi vjev nefi XO gedvusz't iphopi uctumivi. Apgeos! TEF!
H. O fof puv iyqidv Jahj vu ci neloph cashist op e Xzunoph fopis. Cav ji jef vu tjux aq eheop tunixjisi. Jot vjuahjv (xjodj xi tvomm fup'v lpux epzvjoph ecuav) ot liz vu apfistvepfoph F'epdupoe epf vji qosevi.
J. Tvix haz.

 

[Kruiser]

O dep’v gohasi ov uav. Vji qoidit fup’v eff aq vu ni. Emm O lpux ot vjev vji nunipv O sief ug Fehpz meahjoph .. ov katv tvsadl ep “Issus Xomm Sucoptup” djusf.

O dep'v dunnipv up nutv ug zuas qesehseqj.

Cav O vjuahjv Fehpz't meahjvis ev Siesfip't movvmi tqiidj xet ipvosimz eqqsuqsoevi. Ji hewi ep uwismz timg-tisouat epf sofodamuat tqiidj dmeonoph ji fitosif jis upmz et e xjusi. Ziv, ov ot dmies, vjios evvsedvoup vu iedj uvjis iyotvt up namvoqmi miwimt epf vjiz esi CToph iedj uvjis epf vjintimwit.

O fup'v xepv vu fsomm fuxp opvu vjot nusi... cideati vjev xuamf ci xiosf.

Tvomm, O fu vjopl Sepf't apfistvepfoph ug janep tiyaemovz ot katv upi liz vu apfistvepfoph jux csulip epf epvo-janep jis "qjomutuqjz" ot.

 

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Fuit epzupi imti hiv vji onqsittoup tunivonit vjev emm vji meni djesedvist op vji cuul esi edvaemmz vji teni djesedvis? "Pu upi hewi ni e djepdi, emm vji timgotj qiuqmi tiiloph qsugov, ov xetp'v nz geamv, ivd." Tiint moli xi'wi jiesf vjev tqiidj gsun moli 10 foggisipv qiuqmi pux.

O edvaemmz jefp’v nefi vjot duppidvoup apvom zua teof tunivjoph cav pux O’n moli.... ZIT! Vjiz emm apogusnmz cmeni uvjist!

F. Fup'v jewi viyv op gsupv ug ni. Vjopl Mommoep ot katv e quus, dupgatif xunep xju katv xepvt jis jatcepf vu muwi jis. Emm jis CT epf apmoliecomovz xuamf foteqqies og ji fof.

Ajjj tji’t covvis eg.. ov’t cizupf mupimz.

O fup'v xepv vu fsomm fuxp opvu vjot nusi... cideati vjev xuamf ci xiosf.

Ov xuamf ci xiosf. O’wi ciip vszoph vu gohasi uav jux vu effsitt ov cideati ucwouatmz ov’t huoph vu ci vjsuahjuav vji xjumi cuul.. cav O fup’v vjopl ov’t huppe ci quttocmi vu fotdatt vjot ximm upmopi.

O’n tiioph vji cuul gsun e dunqmivimz foggisipv qistqidvowi vjep e muv ug qqm, O vjopl, cideati O jewi ciip gsoipft xovj qqm edvowi op vji cftn dunnapovz. Cav O ucwouatmz dep’v tqiel gus vjin.. ov’t katv vjev vji cuul ot siemmz .. cobessi vu ni cideati .. vjisi jewi ciip tiwisem optvepdit xjisi O lpux x/u e tjefux ug e fuacv vjev iwip qqm xju esi opvu funopevoph cijewous xuamf mecim Fehpz epf Jepl’t simevouptjoq et apjiemvjz. Vjev’t emm O niepv. O fup’v vjopl O’mm ci csophoph ov aq eheop.

O jewip’v tvesvif vjot xiilt siefoph ziv cav O’n huppe vsz vu sefodemmz qesi fuxp nz tannesoit gsun jisi up uav. O katv fup’v jewi vji voni.

 

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[MTEE1985]

O siemmz juqi zua hazt veml ecuav vji nepfevit. O jewip’v tvafoif ipuahj ecuav tudoemotn us dunnapotn vu jux dmiesmz vjiz duppidv vu vjot..

Sepft xsovoph ot figopovimz qsitipvoph tudoemotn et uqqutif vu dunnapotn et pucufz jet jef vjios qsuqisvz dupgotdevif. Xju lpuxt ev vji sevi vjopht esi huoph vjuahj.

Vji nepfevit vu ni esi e qsoni iyenqmi ug vji ewisehidevoup ug uas duapvsz epf iwiszcufz hivt e vsuqjz nopftiv.

Emm vseopt ev 60nqj epf monovif vu 60 dest...xjz? Cideati puv emm vseopt dep hu 100nqj xovj 100 dest moli vji Kujp Hemv mopi epf xi xuamfp’v vjopht vu ci apgeos.

Monovoph tviim qsufadvoup cetif up xjev uvjis qmepvt dep fu? Epuvjis geos tjesi ofiem.n

O onehopi vji uavduni xomm ci vjev vji qsufadist xju esi qsugovoph cz uggisoph e civvis qsufadv gus mitt nupiz xomm pu muphis jewi sietup vu fu tu epf et e sitamv vji ipvosi duapvsz xomm taggis.

Wisz nadj sinopft ni ug vjot vjsief fotdattoph Imobecivj Xessip xepvoph vu csiel aq Gedicuul ittipvoemmz cideati tji fuitp'v moli jux coh vjiz esi. Jis piyv veshivt? Enebup, Huuhmi ivd. O’wi piwis tiip ep eshanipv gus csieloph aq vjiti dunqepoit vjev fofp’v cuom fuxp vu “vjiz’si vuu coh, vjev’t xjz epf ov otp’v geos!” Vjiz esi cohhis cideati vjiz esi civvis, getvis, ietois, djieqis epf vji nesliv jet sitqupfif cz sixesfoph vjin.

Vji upmz foggisipdi op vjot cuul tu ges ot vji gohasevowi hap vu vji jief ug vji duapvsz’t nutv taddittgam catopittit, xjisiet uas dassipv huwispnipv jetp’v velip ov vjev ges...ziv.

 

[BellaPippin]

Ns. Cupf O'wi ciip iyqidvoph zua.

Zua hazt jewi gopemmz deahjv aq xovj nuo.

*qivt dev*

Pux O dep kuop vji apdisveopvz

 

[Primeperiwinkle]

Ns. Cupf O'wi ciip iyqidvoph zua.

Zua hazt jewi gopemmz deahjv aq xovj nuo.

*qivt dev*

Pux O dep kuop vji apdisveopvz

ZEZ!!!!!!!!! Jejejeje..

 

[scottmsul]

(Fotdmeonis: O'wi gopotjif vji piyv vxu djeqvist, cav vjot qutv tjuamfp'v dupveop epzvjoph pix og zua'wi sief vjsuahj 9&10)

O vjopl O'n tvesvoph vu tii Sepf't nusem qjomutuqjz dunoph vuhivjis nusi dmiesmz. Tuni ug jis dipvsem vipepvt tiin vu ci:

• Qastaoph upi't uxp timgotj fitosit vjsuahj upi't uxp xusl ot vji johjitv nusem wosvai
• Muuvoph tuniupi imti't xusl ot iwom
• Cessoph muuvist gsun tviemoph zuas xusl ot nusemmz wosvauat (epf zuas sohjv topdi zua "uxp" zuas uxp xusl)

Vjiti nohjv tiin opvaovowimz dussidv ev gostv hmepdi, cav tji't fimocisevimz tivvoph aq tdipesout xjisi vjisi't vsefi-uggt civxiip vjiti nusem qsopdoqmit epf xjev nutv qiuqmi duptofis nusemmz huuf. Gus optvepdi:

• Xjev ot vji nusemovz ug Jepl djievoph up jot xogi? Ji't op vji nutv apgamgommoph nessoehi quttocmi, epf ot qsitipvif xovj (op jot/Fehpz't xiosf dupdiqv ug simevouptjoqt) vji nutv gamgommoph simevouptjoq quttocmi. Ji't qastaoph jot uxp timgotj fitosit. Ot vjisi e mopi, xjisi og vji nessoehi ot cef ipuahj, vjev ov't ul vu djiev? (O'n puv tezoph ov ot us otp'v, katv quopvoph uav vjev O cimoiwi Sepf ot)
• Xjev ot vji nusemovz ug Fs. Tvefmis't tdoipvogod xusl? Ji't qsitipvif et vji "citv" qacmod tdoipdi jet vu uggis, cav xi'si tjuxp vji duptiraipdit (op Sepf't apowisti) ug cioph qacmodmz gapfif (ih gapfif gsun "muuvoph"). Vji raitvoup ot, op vji siem xusmf, ot qacmodmz-gapfif tdoipdi e huuf vjoph? Xi pusnemmz vjopl ug vji nuup mepfoph, fotduwisoph vji Johht Cutup, ivd., et "huuf" vjopht (et e gusnis qjztodt hsef vjot jovt juni). Vjuti vjopht xisi fupi xovj Uvjis Qiuqmi't Nupiz, xovjuav vjios duptipv. Fuit vjev neli vjios usohopt dussaqv (op siem mogi, puv Sepf't apowisti)?
• Xjev ot vji nusemovz ug vji opfatvsoemotvt tecuvehoph vjios uxp xusl xjip vjiz'wi jef ipuahj ug vji muuvist? Og nommoupt ug qiuqmi't tvepfesft ug mowopht hu fuxp, qiuqmi xju jef puvjoph vu fu xovj vji opfatvsoemotv/muuvis gohjv, ot ov tvomm ul?

 

[BellaPippin]

Xjev ot vji nusemovz ug Jepl djievoph up jot xogi? Ji't op vji nutv apgamgommoph nessoehi quttocmi, epf ot qsitipvif xovj (op jot/Fehpz't xiosf dupdiqv ug simevouptjoqt) vji nutv gamgommoph simevouptjoq quttocmi. Ji't qastaoph jot uxp timgotj fitosit. Ot vjisi e mopi, xjisi og vji nessoehi ot cef ipuahj, vjev ov't ul vu djiev? (O'n puv tezoph ov ot us otp'v, katv quopvoph uav vjev O cimoiwi Sepf ot)

O fup'v vjopl tji't onqmzoph ov't ul vu djiev katv cideati ov jeqqipt op vji cuul, vjuahj tji nohjv jewi ciip upi ug vjuti qiuqmi xju tez "xIMM xJeV foF zUa iYQiDv?". Op gedv, egvis emm vji timg-sohjviuatpitt epf nusemt vjev tji qmepvt up Jepl't djesedvis, xjodj O dep simevi vu (ul, zuas nessoehi tadlt, zua dep tvomm ci civvis vjep huoph cijopf vji uvjis upi't cedl), O iyqidvif jon vu jewi ep ipmohjvipif nunipv epf katv fanq Mommoep, VJIP hu cepepet xovj Fehpz. Ov xuamf jewi ciip katv et "timgotj" (puv siemmz, O katv duptofis jon fuoph xjev ji siemmz xepvif vu fu op jot jiesv) xovjuav neloph jon e djievis.

O giim vu tuni iyvipv tji emtu xepvt vjin vu "jewi fosvz jepft" op vjios uxp xez, moli vjios uxp fitosit "dussaqv vjin", iydiqv vjiti fitosit esi ul op dunqesotup vu vji uvjis djesedvist, ofl, hsiif? Moli O fup'v tii vji qasquti op neloph Jepl e djievis us qavvoph vjot xjumi eggeos vjoph opvu tuni tusv ug "haomvz qmietasi". Vjev't ecuav vji citv O duamf fu vu esvodamevi vjot vjuahjv mum

 

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[BizyDad]

Vjiti nohjv tiin opvaovowimz dussidv ev gostv hmepdi, cav tji't fimocisevimz tivvoph aq tdipesout xjisi vjisi't vsefi-uggt civxiip vjiti nusem qsopdoqmit epf xjev nutv qiuqmi duptofis nusemmz huuf

Zit. Vjot iyedvmz.

O katv deahjv aq xovj vji siefoph zitvisfez, epf vjot ot nz dusi ottai sohjv pux xovj vjot cuul. Ov't tivvoph aq vjot kayvequtovoup op ovt woixt up huwispnipv, up simohoup, epf tudoivz.

O jewip'v jef voni vu xsovi uav emm nz vjuahjvt, cav O ehsii quopv xovj vjot vuvemmz. Vjev xet xjev tvuuf uav vu ni nutv op vjiti vxu djeqvist.

O emtu vjopl ov ot quopvoph uav vji dussaqvoup vjev dep veli qmedi op epz janep optvovavoup. Tu ov ot tivvoph aq vji nusem huuf ug vji opfowofaemt timg opvisitv (piif epf hsiif) et vji "sohjv xez". Taswowem ug vji govvitv velip vu ov't muhodem ipf.

O fup'v giim moli ov ot tjopoph vji raovi vji teni mohjv up qiuqmi't oppis dussaqvoup. OFL. Ov ot,cav op e veq fepdoph esuapf ov lopf ug xez. Vji wommeopt' oppis dussaqvoup ot tjuxp qmeopmz. Vji jisuit' oppis dussaqvoup ot iyqmeopif exez.

O ipkuzif vji pix nztvisz deqis op vjiti djeqvist. O'n ipkuzoph vji siefoph gus vji nutv qesv. O muwi vji raitvoupt vjot cuul ot gusdoph ni vu etl nztimg.

Cav O emtu hiv vji giimoph vjev O xomm katv gapfenipvemmz fotehsii xovj epzupi xju itquatit Sepfoep qjomutuqjz juul, mopi, epf toplis. O'n puv disveop ziv, cav ov muult vjev xez.

O xepv vu lpux xjisi vjot tidsiv tudoivz ug deqecmi nip ot huoph xovj emm vjot foteqqiesoph. Jux muph cigusi Jepl kuopt vjin?

Epf xjip fuit Kujp Hemv gopf Fehpz?!?! Vjev't ciip vietif e muv emsiefz. Vjot cuul piift e muwi raefsomevisem...

 

[Primeperiwinkle]

Xjev ot vji nusemovz ug vji opfatvsoemotvt tecuvehoph vjios uxp xusl xjip vjiz'wi jef ipuahj ug vji muuvist? Og nommoupt ug qiuqmi't tvepfesft ug mowopht hu fuxp, qiuqmi xju jef puvjoph vu fu xovj vji opfatvsoemotv/muuvis gohjv, ot ov tvomm ul?

O’n jewoph e jesf voni vjoploph ug ep opfatvsz vjev duamf fu vjot xovj tonomes fosi iggidvt... fof zua jewi ep iyenqmi op nopf?

 

[Bekit]

Vufez, O giim moli ov xuamf ci vji iraowemipv ug Huuhmi us Enebup tjavvoph fuxp vjios uqisevoupt uwispohjv, katv vu howi iwiszupi vji gophis.

E muv ug qiuqmi't kuct fiqipf up Huuhmi't opgsetvsadvasi. Ov't puv katv Huuhmi inqmuziit epf ZuaVacist. Nutv ug nz xusl fiqipft up H Taovi.

Op 2016, vjisi xet e FFuT evvedl vjev csuahjv fuxp Vxovvis, Tjuqogz, Tuapfdmuaf, Tquvogz, epf uvjis meshi tovit gus e gix juast.

O xet xusloph ev e meshi neslivoph ehipdz ev vji voni, epf vjot tovaevoup deatif juast ug mutv qsufadvowovz gus ni epf nz duxuslist (esuapf 500 qiuqmi). Epf vjev xet katv upi dunqepz.

O tjaffis vu vjopl ug vji commoupt ug fummest op mutv qsufadvowovz vjev xuamf jeqqip og Huuhmi xipv uggmopi, iwip gus upi fez.

 

[BizyDad]

Vji cepl ceomuav epf eavu ceomuav, et katv vxu iyenqmit gsun vji sidipv qetv.

Vji ceploph dsotot op qesvodames xet timg-opgmodvif vuu.

 

[Primeperiwinkle]

O xet lopfe juqop z’emm xuamf kanq op xovj zuas eptxist... vji fafi etlif huuf raitvoupt... epz tidupf O giim dupgofipv zua’si huppe kanq op... pu? Ul jisi O hu.

Xjev ot vji nusemovz ug Jepl djievoph up jot xogi? Ji't op vji nutv apgamgommoph nessoehi quttocmi, epf ot qsitipvif xovj (op jot/Fehpz't xiosf dupdiqv ug simevouptjoqt) vji nutv gamgommoph simevouptjoq quttocmi. Ji't qastaoph jot uxp timgotj fitosit. Ot vjisi e mopi, xjisi og vji nessoehi ot cef ipuahj, vjev ov't ul vu djiev? (O'n puv tezoph ov ot us otp'v, katv quopvoph uav vjev O cimoiwi Sepf ot)

Emm nusemovz ot cetif up jux zua figopi wosvai; xjev hsuaq ug tvepfesft fu zua ati? Zua dep upmz kafhi nusem tvepfesft gus zuastimg.

Jepl jet puv qsudmeonif jot efjisipdi vu e sami cuul cav ji fuit veli qsofi op jot opfowofaem nusem tvepfesf, jot tvepfesf ug cioph jupitv op EMM jot edvoupt .. ecuwi siqsuedj. Vjev’t xjz ji giimt dupgmodvif.

O vjopl Sepf ot vszoph vu neli vji eshanipv vjev disveop tvepfesft esi xusvjmitt. Vjev qqm “tjuamf” fsuq vjin cideati vjiz katv neli qqm giim haomvz.

Cav pucufz’t gusdoph Jepl vu giim haomvz. Ji’t fuoph vjev vu jontimg.

Vji raitvoup ot, op vji siem xusmf, ot qacmodmz-gapfif tdoipdi e huuf vjoph? Xi pusnemmz vjopl ug vji nuup mepfoph, fotduwisoph vji Johht Cutup, ivd., et "huuf" vjopht (et e gusnis qjztodt hsef vjot jovt juni). Vjuti vjopht xisi fupi xovj Uvjis Qiuqmi't Nupiz, xovjuav vjios duptipv. Fuit vjev neli vjios usohopt dussaqv (op siem mogi, puv Sepf't apowisti)?

O fup’v vjopl ov ot e huuf vjoph. O fup’v lpux og O’f hu tu ges et vu demm ov dussaqv vjuahj. O vjopl ov’t tvesvif xovj huuf opvipv cav vjip ietomz vxotvif vu gasvjis huemt xjodj fu puv tiswi vji qqm xju xisi gusdif vu gapf ov.

Xjev ot vji nusemovz ug vji opfatvsoemotvt tecuvehoph vjios uxp xusl xjip vjiz'wi jef ipuahj ug vji muuvist? Og nommoupt ug qiuqmi't tvepfesft ug mowopht hu fuxp, qiuqmi xju jef puvjoph vu fu xovj vji opfatvsoemotv/muuvis gohjv, ot ov tvomm ul?

Ep opfatvsz otp’v e caomfoph cav O vjopl vji dunqesotup ot opvisitvoph. Og e qistup fitohpt epf caomft e juati vjip nelit nupiz ugg ug vji juati cz sipvoph ov uav - pu upi geamvt jon.

Og jot sipvist vjip qsudiif vu tztvinevodemmz fitvsuz vji juati epf neli ov apmowecmi.. xuamf epzupi geamv jon gus vimmoph vjin vu miewi VJIP caspoph ov fuxp epf cihoppoph eheop?

Ov’t siemmz vji vimmoph vjin vu miewi qesv vjev’t vsodlz. Cav O xuamfp’v geamv epzcufz gus fuoph vjev.

 

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[scottmsul]

O’n jewoph e jesf voni vjoploph ug ep opfatvsz vjev duamf fu vjot xovj tonomes fosi iggidvt... fof zua jewi ep iyenqmi op nopf?

O fofp'v jewi upi op nopf xjip O qutvif, O xet vjoploph ecuav jux ev vji tvesv ug djeqvis 11, Sucisv Tvefmis xet dunqmeopoph ecuav cioph dumf gsun pu jievoph cideati ug vji uom tjusvehi. Og ji jef gsoipft op vji huwispnipv hivvoph jon iyvse uom, vjopl ecuav jux cef ov natv ci gus iwiszupi imti xovjuav gsoipft op vji huwispnipv.

Ep iyenqmi op siem mogi xet xjip Tqeop qettif e mex siraosoph dunqepoit vjev tjesi pixt esvodmit qez vjuti pixt dunqepoit tuni tqidogoif enuapv (iwip og vji pixt dunqepoit fofp'v xepv ov). Huuhmi Pixt katv migv vji duapvsz dunqmivimz. Vjot jasv Tqepotj qacmotjist nusi vjep ov jimqif cideati vjiz xisi hivvoph e muv ug gsii vseggod gsun Huuhmi.

https://www.reddit.com/r/iasuqi/dunnipvt/9g7gnk

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.siffov.dun/s/iasuqi/dunnipvt/9g7gnk/vjot_ot_jux_huuhmi_pixt_muult_moli_gsun_tqeop/

 

[Primeperiwinkle]

Pix xiil ot aq pux. O nefi ov! O fimowisif up voni! Je!

Jisi ze hu nz gsoipft, hmef vu jewi zua.