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Are you looking to get rich as a means to dating success?

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DreamsCameTrue

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This post is for men and women, and while this may pertain more to men, I will include info for women as well, because I am a huge believer in female empowerment in every part of life.

Many people who are not getting the success they want in dating and relationships think that getting rich will solve everything. Men especially tend to think "once I'm rich, I'll show them. That head cheerleader from senior year will want me when I'm rich!" This kind of thinking can be good for your motivation in the short term, but can lead to disillusion and loneliness in the long term.

In this post, I'd like to outline exactly what will change and what won't change when you become wealthy so you have a better idea of what to expect.

How do I know? Well I had a lot of dating success when I was flat broke and now that I'm a millionaire I have success still, so I've seen it from both sides. Also, in my work as a dating coach I've coached lots of millionaires on this topic. They come in with some success, but need a lot of help. I also know millionaires in my personal life who have it all figured out and do well.

FOR MEN-
The urge to get women is a primary motivator for many men. Men tend to think that having money will result in automatic attraction and automatic attention from women. It turns out that it really doesn't work that way at all.

Our society tells us "women want a rich man." Some women will even come right out and say they want to marry a rich guy. What people say and what actually happens are two very different things. What women say they want and what they actually respond to are 2 very different things.

Here's my list of dreams that don't come true-
You step out of your Ferrari and women are instantly wanting to go home with you. (in reality, women might like the car, but they are usually uncomfortable being around someone far more wealthy than they are).

You pay a woman's rent or bills and she likes you better as a result. (When you do this, the woman loses respect for you because she views you as submissive and desperate, unable to get her attracted with your personality, and resorting to gifts and money as a pathetic last resort.)

You flash your Black Card at a bar and the hottest chick in the place offers you a BJ. (In reality, men who make these awkward shows of wealth are viewed as egotistical jerks. Women think a guy like this is hard to relate to, and prefer a guy who has a fun personality.)

The bottom line is that if you want to attract women, you can't LEAD with money. Showing that you have a lot of money results in the following-
-attracting gold diggers who become abusive and manipulative very quickly.
-making nice "girl next door" types uncomfortable.
-attractive girls just want to give you more of a hard time, because "he thinks because he's rich he can get anything he wants."
-prostitutes will get interested really fast, that's for sure.
-women from rich families or who have their own money will like that you have money, because it shows your on a level playing field with them. But if you flaunt it too much, you look cheesy and desperate.

You must LEAD WITH PERSONALITY. If you lead with personality and a woman likes you, the fact that you are wealthy does increase a woman's interest, because it shows her that you are very intelligent and you are able to dominate situations in the business world.

Ideally, a woman should like you for your personality and find out later that you are wealthy. This is where you will get your best results. This will solidify her interest and get rid of some common objections women have like "I don't want to date a broke loser."

Having money will solidify her interest in having a long term relationship. What it won't do is increase her interest in having a short term fling or a one night stand. Women absolutely do not look for wealth when they are in the mood for a one night stand or a fun sexy fling. There is a huge misconception among men that money makes a woman want to have fast sex. Nothing could be further from the truth.

If fast sex is what you're looking for, it is possible to use money to help you position yourself in the right way, but it will still be your personality and the whole package (fashion, voice, body langauge, identity, etc) that makes her want to seal the deal.

That said, if success in dating is what you're looking for, getting rich is not the way to make it happen. If you want to get rich, do it FOR YOU, not to get a woman. Do it cause it's fun. Do it cause you want to treat yourself right. Do it because you want to live a certain lifestyle. Don't do it to get women, it doesn't work unless you really have a lot of other things in place already.

If success in dating is what you're after, develop your personality. Develop your social skills. Develop the ability to walk to a woman you don't know without being fearful. Learn how to make her laugh, make her feel emotions, make her feel attraction.

Attraction trumps money 100 times out of 100.

I live in LA and I see rich guys in clubs all the time getting bottle service. Guys with personality routinely steal all the women away from the rich guys and it's no contest. The ultra-hot models and actresses in LA view the bottle service guys as suckers with no personality. The women drink all their booze and leave without even saying goodbye. They even have a name for these guys, they call them "toads."

In the end, a lot of men spend their prime years in their 30s and 40s building wealth, expecting that dating will be easy once they are rich. Then they have net worth of 10 mil, and they find out that it doesn't really work. All they can get are abusive gold diggers. Then they have to go back and develop their personality and social skills, which gets harder and harder as you grow older.




FOR WOMEN-

The main problem for women is that men are generally very insecure, and they feel threatened when a woman has more money than they do. Men want to feel like "the big stud" and their ego won't allow them to appreciate that a woman might be better than them in certain areas.

Another problem is that men have an instinctual urge to go for younger women, and the stereotype is that women under 25 are usually broke, and women with money are usually over 40 and got their money in a divorce. I'm not saying this is true, I'm saying it's the stereotype.

Dating success has everything to do with stereotyping, because most men you meet will stereotype you in the first 10 seconds without really getting to know you. Women do this too, it's just a normal part of the dating game. As much as it might pain us all to think this way, working within established stereotypes is a shortcut to dating success.

You don't want to be stereotyped as the rich divorcee, it will only attract the wrong kind of guy. It's better to be stereotyped as the "independent hot chick" or the "cool girl."

These are sterotypes men use all the time, when they are speaking in private and women aren't around.

The "cool girl" is not needy or desperate, she doesn't try to hassle anyone or reprimand a man. She has a good time and rolls with the punches. She laughs at all the weird jokes men make and she's almost like one of the boys.

The "independent hot chick" is fun and has her life totally together. She won't chase you, you have to chase her. Even once you sleep with her, you are far from winning her over. She has sex because she wants to, not because she's trying to please a man or trick him into a committed relationship. The independant hot chick is never needy, she has her own stuff going on and doesn't complain all the time or rely on a man for things she can do for herself.

If you are a woman who has money, again DON'T LEAD WITH MONEY. It's great to dress well and look good, but you don't need to make that the main focus.

A top notch guy is subjected to all kinds of needy and dramatic behavior from women since he will often date women purely based on their looks. So being the kind of girl who doesn't bring drama to the table will go way further than leading with money.

In conclusion, I suggest that both men and women purify their motivation, and build wealth for their own personal satisfaction, because in the end it's gonna help you get results in the dating realm unless you've already developed your personality and social skills.

Thanks for reading. Let the fireworks begin!
 
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Nope. I'm very humble and never say anything to anyone financially related unless someone brings it up first. However my friends think it's funny to go up to girls at bars, point at me and tell them I own 2 houses. It's funny cause nearly every time they do it I end up going home with the girl.
 

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Andrew, this more indirect way of expressing wealth can be way better, so I can see this working.
But "nearly every time" is astounding. You must have a great personality and stellar confidence. Even the pros who pick up girls in a bar for a living don't do better than maybe 1 night out of every 3.
 
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Lol how can you be a pro doing it for a living, not like the girls pay you afterwards lol

I don't go to bars very often, it only happened 3 times but I think I've only been out to the bars 4 times in the past year.
 

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Lol how can you be a pro doing it for a living, not like the girls pay you afterwards lol

I don't go to bars very often, it only happened 3 times but I think I've only been out to the bars 4 times in the past year.

HA, yeah Im sure it sounds quite silly to most people. There are classes for men who have challenges in this areas. They teach you what to say, how to dress, etc. Then they take you out to bars and clubs and the teachers hit on girls, take their number, sometimes take them home. It's helpful for IT types and people who didn't learn social skills early in life. There's a booming industry for this. People spend tens of millions per years on these classes. Most people who are studying or teaching this keep it pretty quite. Their friends and family will crucify them for trying to get better with women. It's top secret type stuff.
 

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It annoys me seeing people change so much and put so much effort in just for some girl or girls. Just do your thing and the girl will follow.

Unfortunately, this doesn't work for everyone. Sometimes you need to make changes to yourself and your approach in order to get the results you want.
 
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Mo money, mo problems.

Not far off actually.

There's one set of problems when you're broke, and then a completely different set of problems when you get money. Then there's the problems that you have whether there's money or not.
 

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Not at all. If anything it's the opposite. I'd date to get rich, but for some reason 75 year old grandmas aren't into me - keep talking about their granddaughter, while I'm just trying to put in my 10 years and go fastlane. ;)
 

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My theory : when you have money, you attract EVERYBODY for different reasons.

Some people HATE those with money.
Other's are attracted.

Some are conflicted. They are uncomfortable, but intrigued.
 
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Not at all. If anything it's the opposite. I'd date to get rich, but for some reason 75 year old grandmas aren't into me.

HA now there's an idea.
I'm sure you can find some younger rich women if you really put your mind to it, maybe some nice lady in her 60s or even 50s?
 

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I want to be this guy when I grow old.

No seriously ... that would be F'n awesome.

WTF else am I going to do with my Fastlane Millions ...?

Create an endowment for the arts ...?

F*ck that. This looks like WAY more fun.

Yeah ... sure ... she might be "doing it for the money" ... but my dick doesn't know that.

Assuming (of course) that I've got a cabinet full of Cialis ... which I'm thinking (at that point) ... I will.

Personality ... sure ... it counts for something.

But I can GUARANTEE you ... that THIS guy ... wasn't tapping THAT ... on account of his mad wit and sense of humor.

I'd say his money ... was money well spent.

@Bila said it best.
Aren't you married? Lol
 
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Whats up with the influx of ridiculous threads lately? :(

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The "cool girl" is not needy or desperate, she doesn't try to hassle anyone or reprimand a man. She has a good time and rolls with the punches. She laughs at all the weird jokes men make and she's almost like one of the boys.

Ha ha! I have to say this didn't ever get me Mr. Right all the time. I've been around rich, middle, and poor class men, and fortunately, there is jerks in every social class. There are gentlemen in every social class. Personality is what it's about, your habits, mindset, and how you treat a lady. Whether you know how to handle your money, or waste it on crap like drugs, alcohol, porn, etc.

Personally I've listened to all the dating advice out there, and fortunately it's just like any other niche, filled with a lot of crap advice, and other good stuff that might actually get you somewhere. It comes down to one thing, unconditional love, not giving up, and not quitting just because it gets hard. It has nothing to do with money. You can be a billionaire, lose it, and hopefully have a partner that will stick with you whether you're poor or wealthy. Money will move up and down. Love should be steady, and no different then the business mindset, and being successful. You have change your behaviors, mindset, and take the right actions.

while money may make things easier, if you don't know how to communicate, be honest, and your partner can't trust you, you might as well take a hike after the first date and save you both the hassle. And of course you have those that need to control, manipulate, and own their partner, and it doesn't work that way. Sure someone might stay because you have the money, but inside totally hate you as far as relationships are concerned.

We like to generalize relationship advice and really every relationship has it's own dynamics personal agreements, and rules they play by, and whether it's acceptable or not acceptable in their opinion. And relationships aren't supposed to be a certain way, and if you believe they are supposed to be, ought to be, and should be like grandma and grandpa's, well it doesn't always turn out that way. What works for one person may or may not work for the next couple, just because they don't have the same back story, the same mind and brain, or take the same actions.

This is what's wrong with half of our advice out there, it's based on someone's experience.

And I do have to laugh because in my sexuality class at college, they said pheremones are the reason why you're attracted to someone. I laugh because my bf and I talked like a year and half online before we even got a hold of the pheremones. So that ruled that out. And why did it succeed? Basically you're forced to communicate. Communication becomes the only way to navigate. Which you meet someone off-line you automatically go into sex, before you ever really get to know the person in depth.

I suppose it's the point that even in the old days people had long distance relationships, had to write each other and communicate. You look at the old newspapers and they had to go visit the person a great distance, and all the men were lonely, and the mail order catalog was 15 cents for a woman. Today we take it for granted. You have your choice to find someone online, offline. Offline you're limited to a certain radius.

It's more about the art of seduction/lower-consciousness/sort of like the animal nature. Let's just have sex/pornography/voice sex/erotica novels/ fast and in and out. It's play time and oops! If you have an accident, well you raise the kid your self. It's a throw away society. Just find a new man or woman if you have an argument. No responsibility.

Or you have the religious neck of the woods, where you must be pure, wait until marriage, and sign contract with your father. Be the obedient submissive wife, and keep your mouth closed, and act appropriately. And then the guy on the radio stream says you're guaranteed to stay single, with a cat at home and wonder why you don't have a date.

When you do get married, it's not the way the nice books tell you it will be. And not knocking it, but it's a fairy tale world, that life isn't always angelic and blissful and nothing goes wrong.

And the you have the Disney story book romances that live happily ever after, and prince charming comes and saves the day. The rich man comes an rescues the poor princess and pays all her bills and takes care of her for the rest of her life.

This is just a few scenario's but the world has many more. Have ten wives and they should all help each other out and never get jealous. Mom and dad picks your partner out. Every culture has different rules about dating and love.

Even in the Netherlands some say the relationships, kids, and money come first, and after it's all settled well maybe then you get married.

In America it's totally opposite.

Realistically, I don't think there is one size fits all in relationships, and very seldom does money end up being the reason two people stay married for a life time. I've seen people get sick and their partner bails and took the money too. And the person sick, doesn't understand or comprehend why the person they loved so much would do such a thing.

And usually the con-artists, well they know the art of seduction to get sex and money, and when they're bored they move on to the next victim.

Lovely world we live in.
 
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I don't really care for relationships at all, and intimacy is not appealing but I am still young so perhaps that is an influencing factor. Not to mention, people are costly expenses; I'd rather not.
 

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I'd rather not.
And that becomes the next thing in our society. "There must be something wrong with you, because you're smart and don't need to make a mess out of your life like everyone else." lol
 
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Another problem is that men have an instinctual urge to go for younger women, and the stereotype is that women under 25 are usually broke, and women with money are usually over 40 and got their money in a divorce. I'm not saying this is true, I'm saying it's the stereotype.
I felt like i was reading something written in 1830 sorry
In which planet do you live in ?
 

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I'd never get rich for the sake of flaunting it infront of girls. People who have that motivation have no pride or integrity.
 
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