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Anyone subscribe to The Wall Street Journal?

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I've been considering subscribing to The Wall Street Journal. Has anyone subbed to it? What do you like/not like about it? Do you think it's worth it?

Many thanks!
 
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After having worked as customer service to the New York Times. I don't want anything to deal with any newspapers ever again.
 

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I subscribed to it a couple times when they had good deals that made it worth it, like $1 a month for 3 months or whatever. They come nearly everyday so paper adds up fast.

Eventually, I came to realize that I wasn’t gaining anything from it. I prefer to invest in smaller companies. The WSJ mainly focuses on large companies that are making “headlines” or common economic news. I never really read the political articles as it was all wasted space to me.

It depends on why you want to read it. What are you hoping to get out of it?
 

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I subscribed to it a couple times when they had good deals that made it worth it, like $1 a month for 3 months or whatever. They come nearly everyday so paper adds up fast.

Eventually, I came to realize that I wasn’t gaining anything from it. I prefer to invest in smaller companies. The WSJ mainly focuses on large companies that are making “headlines” or common economic news. I never really read the political articles as it was all wasted space to me.

It depends on why you want to read it. What are you hoping to get out of it?
I like reading some of the articles and want to learn more on the commodities/futures markets through the site.
 
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dude it’s literally $12 for 3 months

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for the amount of effort to post this thread you could have just subbed and tried it

The Wall Street Journal
 

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dude it’s literally $12 for 3 months

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for the amount of effort to post this thread you could have just subbed and tried it

The Wall Street Journal
That's the introductory offer.

They charge you more after that.

Then when it comes to cancellation they upsell these other offers to try to keep you as a subscriber.

For NYTimes, you have to call to cancel. The automated voice system would ask for your account information. But no matter what you gave it, it would say, "Sorry we don't that in our system". Then it would put you on hold for at least 15 minutes to get you to a Customer Service Rep just to cancel your subscription.

A lot of customer are impatient and get angry and hang up. So they keep getting charged anyway.

Then the customer would start complaining for 30 minutes. But you have to tell them, "Our Account Management Department are the ones that deal with cancellation. I have to send you to them." The customer would complain even more. It would be another 5minute hold to transfer them over.

The "Account Management Department" is called Save To Stop. Here they just upsell offers to keep you as a subscriber. They don't take no for an answer. Why? They het a dollar/hour bonus for each save.

No Bueno. As my dad always says at a Wedding, "DON'T DO IT!"
 

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That's the introductory offer.

They charge you more after that.

Then when it comes to cancellation they upsell these other offers to try to keep you as a subscriber.

For NYTimes, you have to call to cancel. The automated voice system would ask for your account information. But no matter what you gave it, it would say, "Sorry we don't that in our system". Then it would put you on hold for at least 15 minutes to get you to a Customer Service Rep just to cancel your subscription.

A lot of customer are impatient and get angry and hang up. So they keep getting charged anyway.

Then the customer would start complaining for 30 minutes. But you have to tell them, "Our Account Management Department are the ones that deal with cancellation. I have to send you to them." The customer would complain even more. It would be another 5minute hold to transfer them over.

The "Account Management Department" is called Save To Stop. Here they just upsell offers to keep you as a subscriber. They don't take no for an answer. Why? They het a dollar/hour bonus for each save.

No Bueno. As my dad always says at a Wedding, "DON'T DO IT!"
Ugh, I hate that. When that happens I just call my bank and have them block them from charging.
 
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That's the introductory offer.

They charge you more after that.

Then when it comes to cancellation they upsell these other offers to try to keep you as a subscriber.

For NYTimes, you have to call to cancel. The automated voice system would ask for your account information. But no matter what you gave it, it would say, "Sorry we don't that in our system". Then it would put you on hold for at least 15 minutes to get you to a Customer Service Rep just to cancel your subscription.

A lot of customer are impatient and get angry and hang up. So they keep getting charged anyway.

Then the customer would start complaining for 30 minutes. But you have to tell them, "Our Account Management Department are the ones that deal with cancellation. I have to send you to them." The customer would complain even more. It would be another 5minute hold to transfer them over.

The "Account Management Department" is called Save To Stop. Here they just upsell offers to keep you as a subscriber. They don't take no for an answer. Why? They het a dollar/hour bonus for each save.

No Bueno. As my dad always says at a Wedding, "DON'T DO IT!"
Bingo, Bango, Bongo
 

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I mean my personal experience? I follow them and get their free articles, but I’ve never seen anything compelling enough to make me want to pull out my CC.

Although, this is considered to be the greatest sales letter of all time, selling over $2 Billion worth the magazines:

http://swiped.co/file/wallstreet-letter-conroy/
 

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I mean my personal experience? I follow them and get their free articles, but I’ve never seen anything compelling enough to make me want to pull out my CC.

Although, this is considered to be the greatest sales letter of all time, selling over $2 Billion worth the magazines:

http://swiped.co/file/wallstreet-letter-conroy/
It's like writing an essay. They hook you in with the story. The main theme/motif being Tai Lopez's favorite word. "Knawledge". Then it comes back full circle in the closing.

A+
 
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I subscribe. I quit for a while. Missed it and got it back.

TV news is complete garbage and WSJ has been my go to news source for over a decade.

I highly recommend. Also, the average net worth of WSJ subscribers is like 3 million dollars.
 
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Your public/local university library should have it for free if you want to check it out.

If you have a valid .edu email, its like $4/month, I'd pay twice that. The Wall Street Journal

Your local business journal is also a good source-- I found my bank that gave me my line of credit, paid for a lifetime of subscriptions.
 

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I subscribe. I quit for a while. Missed it and got it back.

TV news is complete garbage and WSJ has been my go to news source for over a decade.

I highly recommend. Also, the average net worth of WSJ subscribers is like 3 million dollars.
I've see you reccomend the WSJ a few times now and I follow then and read, what do you like about it?

I read them sometimes, but the majority of my news I get from Reuters or the Associated Press as they have almost no political bias.

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https:/mediabiasfactcheck.com/

WSJ leans slightly right, but certainly not enough to bother me.

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Anyway, aside from the apparent lack of political bias (mostly,) is there anything else you like about them. I read them a little bit, but since I usually get the majority of my news from Reuters/AP, I never really dug in.

This is actually set as my homepage:

Least Biased - Media Bias/Fact Check
 

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After having worked as customer service to the New York Times. I don't want anything to deal with any newspapers ever again.

I worked in the tech dept of a major newspaper group and I'm with you on that. However, the WSJ has a lot of interesting articles that I enjoy. And movie reviews.

My subscription is online only.

Why do I like it? I can always find something interesting or thought provoking and don't feel like it's pure mind control. I cancelled my local paper after the OpEd headlines encroached on the front page. Just report and let me make up my own mind.

Anyway, I liked the suggestion of the library. See if you like it. Or try it for 90 days. they have special packages, I'm sure.
 
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I like reading some of the articles and want to learn more on the commodities/futures markets through the site.

It's probably worth it for that use case.

I have a subscription, but I don't get any value from it. I'm looking at the headlines in the Business section right now and I don't care about any of the articles.

The local business journal is much better for me and provides much more actual business insight. WSJ is stuff like "GE's dividend is investors' focus" and "PepsiCo Returns to Growth in Beverage Sales."
 

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I'm an active investor and I find no particular value in the Wall Street Journal. At the end of the day (if you're investing) you're still going to have to do your own research and read annual reports and whatnot.
 

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Get it 6 days a week. Just sign up for 1 year paper/digital for $200 or so, one-lump deal.

Once a week I'll spend a few hours reading the week's news. WSJ gives you an idea of companies, background, and the deals they're doing; understanding of parts of the economy.

I like the NYtimes and other publications but they usually lean more toward social issues. While I do take concern and like to read about such things, Vanity Fair and other sources aren't a priority.
 
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Also, the average net worth of WSJ subscribers is like 3 million dollars.

So if you're worth much more than $3M, you'd be weighting yourself down by reading it? Shouldn't we read and hang out with people who are much more successful than us? ;):playful:

I prefer Barrons and Investors Business Daily.

They make great "coffee on the patio" reading.
 

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So if you're worth much more than $3M, you'd be weighting yourself down by reading it? Shouldn't we read and hang out with people who are much more successful than us? ;):playful:

I prefer Barrons and Investors Business Daily.

They make great "coffee on the patio" reading.

Hahaha. LMAO

Still the richest average readership of any publication.
 

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I'm an active investor and I find no particular value in the Wall Street Journal. At the end of the day (if you're investing) you're still going to have to do your own research and read annual reports and whatnot.

Right, it isn’t right for active investing.

It’s more of an overall news source, pretty much unbiased, and looks at things from a business minded perspective.

Fox News enrages me just as much as any of the communist outlets these days... They remind me of The Weather Channel when a hurricane is in the Gulf. CNBC is the dumb money bandwagon. Bloomberg sucks.

Studies show you learn more from reading than watching. To me it’s kind of the last frontier in educated, business minded, print-journalism.
 

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Right, it isn’t right for active investing.

It’s more of an overall news source, pretty much unbiased, and looks at things from a business minded perspective.

It works for me. Fox News enrages me just as much as any of the communist outlets these days... They remind me of The Weather Channel when a hurricane is in the Gulf.

Studies show you learn more from reading than watching. To me it’s kind of the last frontier in educated, business minded, print-journalism.

You’d probably like these three resources:

Least Biased - Media Bias/Fact Check

AllSides | Balanced news via media bias ratings for an unbiased news perspective

Search News based on Highly Factual Reporting

I can’t stand my news being tainted with skewed politics. Left, right. Like yo... i just wanna hear what happened today. Leave the propaganda for Woodstock.
 
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I did.... once.

Now they won’t stop sending me letters in the mail, trying to get me to subscribe.

F*****g hate them now.
 

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@Kak linked me a wsj article a few weeks back about current happenings in the oil industry. If we play our cards right that one article will pay for his subscription for the rest of his life.

I'd say that's some decent value right there
 

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I actually won a few month's worth of subs for WSJ after Quora gave me a Top Writer's Award.

Never got around to reading it, as the Quora posts and news got very bustling

A few months later, the WSJ popped up with this news feature that threw my country into an uproar, as well as a great election overthrow....
Malaysia's 1MDB Decoded: How Millions Went Missing

...plus awards for the journalists.
WSJ Journalist Wins Prestigious Award For 1MDB Scandal Reports

They are even writing a book on it, called Billion Dollar Whale.

TLDR: All about BRO-marketing and EXTREME denial by the bad guys when the law came on their case. And one of the BRO-marketers in the case actually helped finance Wolf of Wall Street

So, from there, gotta give WSJ some credit for the huge expose.
 
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You’d probably like these three resources:

Least Biased - Media Bias/Fact Check

AllSides | Balanced news via media bias ratings for an unbiased news perspective

Search News based on Highly Factual Reporting

I can’t stand my news being tainted with skewed politics. Left, right. Like yo... i just wanna hear what happened today. Leave the propaganda for Woodstock.

Who decided what is left and right?

More importantly, what God of unbiasedness blessed us with his opinion of all the news sources?

When it's balanced enough that you have to look up the bias, it's good enough.

WSJ has the right amount of what I would call conservative and liberal opinion pieces where I can see perspectives from both sides... Usually by highly respected experts that don't bombard you with emotional BS. I would consider myself smarter than most of these television news personalities, yet they have no problem telling me what to believe like I'm a child.

I'd argue the WSJ journalists lean slight lefty populist. They applaud a lot of business moves, that I won't get into, I believe are bad business.

The opinion section leans slightly right.
 
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