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Really stupid athlete... however... You holding his domain hostage even for $1500 was a total dick move.Long story short, in the month of April I noticed a pro-athlete went on a popular sports podcast and at the end of the episode dropped his new website for his online store. It turned out they hadn't purchased the domain yet - so I bought it and then contacted his management and explained I didn't want to be a dick and take advantage of them and offered to sell it for $1500 to them.
Kak - I even said to the guy, that I would give it to him for free but would take the memorabilia. I did not hold it hostage I just initially said Id sell it for $1500.Really stupid athlete... however... You holding his domain hostage even for $1500 was a total dick move.
You think you are entitled to be part of this guy’s business just because you sneakily bought his domain for $11 on Godaddy? Bullshit.
This was cringeworthy.
I appreciate your reply and your blunt honesty. This is why I'm here and why I posted. If I didn't buy the domain someone else would have and they would have parked it and refused to sell it for $10,000. I did not blackmail him in anyway... he thanked me for being so 'chill' about the whole ordeal and offered signed gear instead which I said sure. I even said afterwards that they can just have it for free.So.
Yeh that was a weak move stealing the domain. So obviously youre off to a bad start , I dont know why you thought this person would actually respect his would be blackmailer as a business partner.
You own the site but its making sales because of the athletes name.
So let me ask you , if a pro athlete decided to sue you , just out of spite , what could you do? If an easy fifteen hundred bucks sounded like a great idea I imagine what you could do is go bankrupt trying to defend yourself. A pro athlete gets paid enough to file frivolous lawsuits against you every week and not go sweat it.
I think since you're only out the money for the domain and the time spent making a site you might want to walk away. I think you're in over your head.
Good call. Again - I appreciate your stone cold honesty this is what I'm after. So at this point I've definitely decided against tampering with the website. That's not under consideration any longer so thank you.Ok so even if you didnt have negative intent.
Do you have an agreement in writing?
His name , his fame , his win if it goes to court (if you take merchandise money)
Even if he's the one being a jerk now the dude has a better hand to play than you do.
If it's in text/email form, it has weight in court. But you'd be retarded to bring that to a judge after doing the above with the domain.Can I in theory say that if I'm not paid for my work within x amount of days then I regretfully have to sell the domain on the open market. Yes - there was no written contract but this would probably fall within reliance/restitution. You don't always need a contract.
Thank you to all of you!! I've decided to just re-enable sales after being scared by some of the posts. It's only been disabled for a day and as it stands they only get like 1 sale a day which is of $20.I hope you're not in the US.
If they brought on lawyers with any sense, they would have torn you a new one with cybersquatting laws.
First you wanted something in exchange for the domain. Then you went and built a store on it. Even if you had no intent of profiting and eventually gave it up. Holy crap son.
If it's in text/email form, it has weight in court. But you'd be retarded to bring that to a judge after doing the above with the domain.
Remove your code from the website and just let them have it. If they want the files, tell them you'll give it to them after the money hits your account.
You should probably just admit to them you were a dick, tell them the work is gratis, hand it all over and wish them well.Thank you to all of you!! I've decided to just re-enable sales after being scared by some of the posts. It's only been disabled for a day and as it stands they only get like 1 sale a day which is of $20.
I am just going to play the waiting game after getting a little scared from some of the posts. That might be my best chance. If they pay me, the pay me. If not I just get to help them out for free here and there for the hell of it which I don't mind.
What you describe yourself doing is more or less what happen. Trust me when I say this manager thanked me thousands of times even phoning me to thank me during the entire month. It's hard to gauge the situation without seeing our chats so I understand where you're coming from.You should probably just admit to them you were a dick, tell them the work is gratis, hand it all over and wish them well.
Maybe that will win you a little respect and perhaps some legitimate business from them.
You played this all wrong... I would have bought it to give it to them in the first place and then in my benevolence and awesomeness, I would have asked for their business to build and maintain their site long term.
Damien - how did I lock them into working with me? After we agreed on exchanging the domain for a signed shirt I sent them a ton of advice on some things they could do out of pure kindness. That's when the guy replied the next day saying "It looks like you really know your stuff. The guy who was supposed to be handling this f*cked up. How much would it cost for you to make us a Shopify?"You're worried that you're being scammed? Might have missed something but you come across as a leech, piggy backing off someone else's name and success and then limiting his/her options by locking them into working with you. Highly exploitative and opportunistic. I'd play along and then screw you the second I got the chance too.
Actually I never gave any terms. I said id give the website in exchange for a signed shirt. Then the next day he out of nowhere asked me if I would make a website for them as their guy F*cked it up.
Side note to OP, maybe it would be better if you had just given them the domain for free and ask for an endorsement or some sort of social proof in exchange. That's actually better than any $2.5K.
You don't wanna be a dick and take advantage of them? Then why would you try and profit off a domain that is in their name? Is it trademarked? In any case, you're in business to turn a profit... and you saw an opportunity and pulled the trigger. Once you did that though, did you go about it the right way??? I know of cybersquatting, but I'm not too familiar in regard to the specifics and what can or can't be done... (and I'm not a lawyer so don't take anything I say as legal advice)explained I didn't want to be a dick and take advantage of them
Forgetting about the domain for a second... You built a Shopify store for somebody and went based off what I consider to be a gentleman's agreement? Am I correct? No signed contract or anything?I created the shopify but I transferred it over to him and set his email as admin account leaving me a staff account.
Personally I think you're opening up yourself to more trouble doing this... One way or another it will probably get back to the athlete... And really, is it a good judgement call?Can I in theory add my own product on the website since he's not responding and have it linked to my personal shopify and get paid that way since in theory I own the website?
So off base it is not even funny. Do NOT take this as gospel just because some Jerry McGuire wannabe said it.He phoned me out of the blue to say first lesson in business is never to work for free.
So heres my take , turn sales back on. Send an email with all the access passwords to the site.not really to be honest beyond uploading new products when they release new stuff
Call me naive, but I think @StickyNoteMap learned a lesson, too. He came in here chasing money, but seems to have genuinely learned that helping people is the right way, while scamming them is the wrong way. Yeah, he thought he was getting scammed, but he seems to be changing his tune bit by bit. And of course he has a long way to go, but we have all been there.Great lesson here... for the athlete.
That's the biggest takeaway here, along with suggestions of what he should've done by more experienced entrepreneurs here.He came in here chasing money, but seems to have genuinely learned that helping people is the right way,
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